I run 2.3.6 on my phone, and 4.1 something on my (Nexus) tablet - let me assure you all 200+ apps I have installed on both (thanks, local backup) are at the exact same version on both devices. If you replace your launcher, you don't even see the OS unless you open the settings screen.
It is cheap to the users, if they can't get it any cheaper or as long as it is someone else who is bearing full the cost. For the whole economy it isn't cheap at all, as all economic research into the practice has shown over the many years it was performed in Eastern Europe. I'm sure it is not very different in China.
Also, you keep calling this "internship", which it isn't.
The point of the internship is to give the students a feel for the realities of life in the proletariat.
You should get a chance to feel the proletariat realities yourself, smartypants, like a real Chinese, in a no-easy-exit environment. I'd volunteer to be your personal commander for a month. I'll remember enough to give you a full walk-through. I'm sure you'll love it.
So what is the problem?
Dunno. Ask the central Chinese government, which has already ordered the practice stop.
But of course, it looks like this had all to do with students "getting some practical experience" and nothing to do with Foxconn requiring very cheap labor at very short notice.
No, my point is that in our version of a Socialist society you had no choice over how you dispose of your time and body. Not so bad in a modern, mildly capitalist country.
"Forced" doesn't mean "I had to do it because I needed the money" in China. There, as elsewhere in the Communist world, there is this thing called "brigadier movement", where students (highschool and university) and sometimes older people "volunteer" to help some sector of the economy, usually for free (awful) food and no pay.
When I was a kid, we used to "help" agriculture most often, at it was the most underpopulated sector. The "help" would usually take place around the start of the school year, during the time of the harvest, but also during the summer vacation.
From the description of the article I think this is the same thing -- the authorities rounding up people to "help" the industry.
The only difference is that when I was doing it, we were doing it for the "country". Now it is for Foxconn.
Well, I have influenced the lawmaking process in my country, so it isn't as hopeless as you imagine it to be. The less you try, though, the harder it gets, that I agree with.
This is true only in theory. In practice, if you want to use apps across all devices, have timely updates and a single place to manage them, your choices are severely limited and rather costly outside of the Google Play store.
I am using a few of "alternative" marketplaces and I am not happy with any one of them, I don't cherish installing cracked apps very much either, and I find dealing with different devs on an app by app basis quite tedious as well.
I am not hopeful that things will improve very much in the future either. If anything, the nexus tablet (which is the first android tablet I like) was a step in the wrong direction.
Well, one has a sentence, and the other still hasn't got one, so the situation is not quite the same. BTW, the word "sentence" reminds me that sentences are still shelled out more or less according to laws in the West, and that you can still try to influence with some degree of success the process of lawmaking in your own country. What have you done to help the unjustly accused and the jailed because of unfair laws?
I hear South Africa is a favorite destination for various convicted Eastern European mafiots due to their accommodating extradition rules. I was there for a few weeks in 02 and I think it was a lot more pleasant place to be than Cambodia, which I visited around 06.
It is just as bad on the Android, if not worse. I am sorry I installed a firewall and a packet logger on my phone and tablet, now that I see how often does the Google services framework call the Google mothership. Galaxy S1/S2 and Nexus tablet.
Because the SIM card necessary to connect you to the master database, while the SD card is quite useful if you want to stay off the grid, obviously. The trend for the past two years or so has definitely been to turn the smartphone into a dumb terminal, with all the "apps" and storage gradually going to the "cloud".
In a perfect world, the second would be more likely. However, if you stack it againt the hundreds of cases every year where officials or executive lose equipment with mega or gigabytes of personal information, I'd say that IRL the first is at least as likely as the second.
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I run 2.3.6 on my phone, and 4.1 something on my (Nexus) tablet - let me assure you all 200+ apps I have installed on both (thanks, local backup) are at the exact same version on both devices. If you replace your launcher, you don't even see the OS unless you open the settings screen.
Yeah, you have plenty facts about me, my country and the changes we effected, you only don't want to break my ignorance with them, right? Idiot.
In other words, you have none. The PIOOMA brigade is indeed strong on /. and it never sleeps.
It is cheap to the users, if they can't get it any cheaper or as long as it is someone else who is bearing full the cost. For the whole economy it isn't cheap at all, as all economic research into the practice has shown over the many years it was performed in Eastern Europe. I'm sure it is not very different in China.
Also, you keep calling this "internship", which it isn't.
The point of the internship is to give the students a feel for the realities of life in the proletariat.
You should get a chance to feel the proletariat realities yourself, smartypants, like a real Chinese, in a no-easy-exit environment. I'd volunteer to be your personal commander for a month. I'll remember enough to give you a full walk-through. I'm sure you'll love it.
So what is the problem?
Dunno. Ask the central Chinese government, which has already ordered the practice stop.
But of course, it looks like this had all to do with students "getting some practical experience" and nothing to do with Foxconn requiring very cheap labor at very short notice.
And what are the facts that support your case?
No, my point is that in our version of a Socialist society you had no choice over how you dispose of your time and body. Not so bad in a modern, mildly capitalist country.
When Zombie Reagan comes out of the grave to marry the Iron Lady and destroy what he left of the Communist Menace last time around I suppose.
It seems the authorities are more honest these days ;)
"Forced" doesn't mean "I had to do it because I needed the money" in China. There, as elsewhere in the Communist world, there is this thing called "brigadier movement", where students (highschool and university) and sometimes older people "volunteer" to help some sector of the economy, usually for free (awful) food and no pay.
When I was a kid, we used to "help" agriculture most often, at it was the most underpopulated sector. The "help" would usually take place around the start of the school year, during the time of the harvest, but also during the summer vacation.
From the description of the article I think this is the same thing -- the authorities rounding up people to "help" the industry.
The only difference is that when I was doing it, we were doing it for the "country". Now it is for Foxconn.
I am intrigued. What am I delusional about?
of course. and you are the wise old man from the Internet, right?
I think you need to open yourself to new ideas. The world isn't as bad as you imagine it to be.
Well, I have influenced the lawmaking process in my country, so it isn't as hopeless as you imagine it to be. The less you try, though, the harder it gets, that I agree with.
This is true only in theory. In practice, if you want to use apps across all devices, have timely updates and a single place to manage them, your choices are severely limited and rather costly outside of the Google Play store.
I am using a few of "alternative" marketplaces and I am not happy with any one of them, I don't cherish installing cracked apps very much either, and I find dealing with different devs on an app by app basis quite tedious as well.
I am not hopeful that things will improve very much in the future either. If anything, the nexus tablet (which is the first android tablet I like) was a step in the wrong direction.
At least it allows a card reader for now.
Well, one has a sentence, and the other still hasn't got one, so the situation is not quite the same. BTW, the word "sentence" reminds me that sentences are still shelled out more or less according to laws in the West, and that you can still try to influence with some degree of success the process of lawmaking in your own country. What have you done to help the unjustly accused and the jailed because of unfair laws?
I hear South Africa is a favorite destination for various convicted Eastern European mafiots due to their accommodating extradition rules. I was there for a few weeks in 02 and I think it was a lot more pleasant place to be than Cambodia, which I visited around 06.
Does the TSA know?
It is just as bad on the Android, if not worse. I am sorry I installed a firewall and a packet logger on my phone and tablet, now that I see how often does the Google services framework call the Google mothership. Galaxy S1/S2 and Nexus tablet.
It is a kind of inconvenient truth, so they prefer to be subtle about it.
Because the SIM card necessary to connect you to the master database, while the SD card is quite useful if you want to stay off the grid, obviously. The trend for the past two years or so has definitely been to turn the smartphone into a dumb terminal, with all the "apps" and storage gradually going to the "cloud".
In a perfect world, the second would be more likely. However, if you stack it againt the hundreds of cases every year where officials or executive lose equipment with mega or gigabytes of personal information, I'd say that IRL the first is at least as likely as the second.
Nyet. J. Edgar Hoover.
He's gotta be as shrewd as one Mr. Manning. Are they using Android tablets to access customer databases at the Genius Bar?
If not for Jobs' vision and leadership at the top, what else could explain the last ~10 years with the decade before that?
The development of suitable hardware in the meantime, obviously.