OK, give your estimates. Tell us how much the society values a human life. These two examples are just estimates. If you don't like them, give us better ones.
Somehow I don't expect you to be able to come up with examples showing that human life was valued much higher than 10 million dollars. Check out for how much car manufactureres settle the lawsuits, check out, how much insurance companies value one life, etc. Then come back and see that for each copyright infridgement the society may impose a fine as large as 30000. I would understand if this was a total amount for all shared songs at the same time, but multiplying this amount by 1100 somehow doesn't seem right...
The absolute bottom line is it results in you gaining something you have no legal or moral right to.
No true. Art belongs to everyone. Everyone has the right to enjoy art. That's why valuable works of art are on display, sometimes for free, in museums all over the world. Copying music == being human. Enjoying art == being human. Sharing MP3s == doing something for the betterment of mankind. Suing kids == being a slimey litiguos toad.
Sharing != distribution. The laws were never intended to stop people sharing something for free (you can argue that this is copying, not sharing, but this is definitely sharing access to the work). The laws were intended to protect the limited monopoly, i.e. stop other people from commercially exploiting the copyrighted product during the term of copyright.
The various P2P networks are a major source of online piracy.
And piracy has its good uses too.
1) You need to make a distinction between commercial piracy and casual piracy. First one is intended to sell a pirated copy of a 1000$ product for 500$. The pirate really deprives the author of one sale, "stealing" it from him. Second is intended to provide free or nearly free copies to people who are not willing to pay for the product and thus have never been potential clients. First type of piracy harms industries, second type helps consumers (in a way similar to libraries). Of course, there is a certain percentage of people, who use pirated copies even though they are willing to pay 1000$, but from my experience, their numbers are relatively small.
2) Piracy helps economy. If I write an office suite, economic output doesn't change. If I make a million copies, it doesn't change. If I sell this million copies, it doesn't really change, only on paper. What has real and immediate economic effect is million users switching from paper (or Notepad) to my office suite and increasing their productivity. Now think about it, how is piracy different from all users buying only legit copies. There are two differences: - piracy doesn't stimulate software industry to develop more software + piracy provides the software to everyone, not just those who are the most desperate (and are willing to pay 1000$) Don't forget that once the software (the same is true for movies and music) is written, distribution is a zero-sum game. What is sales to software industry (or *AA) is cost to other companies. If Microsoft loses $3bn to piracy, customers get extra $3bn! If MPAA loses $1bn, movie viewers get this $1bn.
A million $ question - how good is HP at giving advice if their VP can't even explain what their doing and be understood? It's like hiring a press-secretary with speech impediment.
We know that now. It took more than a year for this to become clear. When.Net was announced, noone had no idea whatsoever, check some old articles. And BTW, notice how.Net was used for branding all that time. It seems to me that many of the.Net products had nothing whatsoever in common with your present understanding of.Net
May be we can expect HP to make some meaningful product and start selling it under AE brand in a few years?
1) Teach your employees Ctrl+C, Ctrl+V and other keyboard shortcuts 2) Make sure the refresh rate is set to max on all displays, all mice have long cords and there is enough space on every desk 3) Check that all computers are fast and responsive, anti-virus software doesn't slow PCs down, network is fast 4) Get a easy to organise e-mail program, like Opera M2 5) Install an easy information organising tool, like Treepad
Voila! The first item alone can easily provide 1000% return on investment. Seriously, I don't understand why would anyone start with the hard and expensive solution, when teaching people to use Alt-Tab to switch from a word-process to a spreadsheet would probably make bigger difference.
You should not moderate a person, you should moderate their posts. I don't care about Fux's journal, but this post was obviously funny enough in the second part to not be considered troll.
Well, I am sure not all Finns have broadband, but I immensely enjoyed my Sonera 1024/256 connection (18 euros, no connection/equipment fee, no traffic limits) during a year of my studies in Lappeenranta.:) The education sucked though...
Is it your area of the city? Nope, I was one of the first people in the city (5 mln) to get cable.
ISP? Sure, I can't switch a cable provider, but they all offer the same level of services.
Vintage 1970s coax or copper phone lines? Digital switching board, quality lines and the cable lines laid down relatively recently.
Could it be your 386 with 16M of RAM? P4 with 512Mb.
Cheapest access package for cable? Well, second cheapest I would say.:) I can pay more to get 256Kb down, but traffic would cost the same, so why bother?
Overloaded network? At that sort of prices? You must be kidding.
Bottlenecked backbones? They are not overloaded, they are just prohibitively expensive. For some unknown reason traffic costs a least a few cents per Mb in the city. So regardless of the ISP, it usually costs 5-7 cents to the end user. And this is given the fact that 300 km from here is Finland where 1024/256 with unlimited traffic costs 18 euros.
When I read this kind of post, I start feeling warm and fuzzy towards capitalism and the bounty it brings. The sad thing is that we had capitalism for about 13 years now and Internet even longer, but cheap broadband is nowhere in sight. Russian budget is about 70% of South Korean, but hell will freeze before the state will spend similar amount of money on wiring the country. And given that only a third of the populace have phone access...
The wonders of the free market, my ass. I hate the thugs who took over the country.:(( The higher chamber of Russian parlament proposed in 1992-1993 a strategy for development of postindustrial economy. However, Eltsin decided to concentrate on oil and gas instead, just like Gorbachev a decade before.... Fuckers.
Avoiding paying royaties to US and EU is a major component of any sensible comercial or industrial policy in a developing country.
Interestingly enough, the same can be said about piracy. Avoiding paying licensing fees to US and EU is a major component of any sensible commercial or industrial policy in a developing country. I guess this is why piracy is rampant in Russia, China and other developing countries. The only thing I fear is politicians believing their own pro-strong IP propaganda and killing their own economy with anti-piracy measures.
I just hate all South Koreans, Europeans and Americans!:( When I read this kind of news, I start feeling warm and fuzzy towards North Koreans, Arab immigrants and Al Quaeda...
Currently I too need to make a choice. - To stay with my cable access provider and pay ~80$/month for 128/32Kbps using about 1Gb of traffic (traffic costs 0.07$/Mb). - To get ADSL and pay 200$ for installation and 60$ monthly for 64/16Kbps and supposedly unlimited traffic. - To pay 10$ for monthly night dial-up access (2:00-9:00) and schedule large downloads for the dial-up, while using cable access during the day for surfing, e-mail and stuff.:-(((((
And where do you think I live? Zimbabve? Cuba? Argentina? Bangladesh? No, the second largest city of Russia, just 200 km from Finland, the most wired and the most wireless country. Fuck!
But you forgot Fangorn, a wise and NOT HASTY Ent! In the book he makes a lot of fuss about not disclosing his name to everybody, in the movie he says it to Orcs (presumably) in, what, first 30 seconds of their conversaion? Rrrright. Being so wise, doesn't know jack shit about cut and burned forests and decides to ignore Saruman. And then, after going on an on about not being hasty, changes his mind in like 15 seconds and decides to attack Isengard.
After raping Faramir, I consider destroying Fangorn's character the second worst offence Jackson did to TTT.
Everything I've soon so far indicates that these men have the utmost respect for each other.
I would seriously doubt that, given how little respect PJ has to either Tolkien's book or us, the viewers.
You can rationalise as much as you want, but that doesn't change the fact that a lot of people think TTT stinks. I would love to be excited by the coming ROTK, like I was about FOTR and TTT, but I am not. And the only reason is what PJ did with the 2nd part. Even more, I couldn't care less about watching the TTT Extended Edition in a few days.
Do you realise that Neo says "Whoa" only once during the whole movie. It's the fact that this moment was included in every damn trailer and TV spot that pushed this word into your collective consciousness.
Similarly, if a third party offers Google large bucks to do something that goes against the majority shareholders' personal ethics but it's a good business deal, the shareholders are still required to do whatever helps the company's bottom line the most, not what suits their personal ethics. You mean managers, right?
This is how a publicly traded company works -- all decisions need to be for maximizing shareholder value, not for the majority's personal interests. This is true for most companies, but this is not a fundamental principle. There is no sure way to tell if something maximizes shareholder value, but in most companies the shareholders demand constant share price growth, so naturally managers are inclined to comply, lest they are replaced after the next shareholders meeting.
Extremely so. It would be good journalism to contact MSN and ask them to comment on the findings. Surely a simple e-mail would go a long way towards finding out that MSN does, in fact, provide all relevant information about Linux vs. Windows. The problem with MSN is not their desire to kill Linux, it's their orientation towards the advertisers, not the search users.
You're mad at your parents for telling you not to play games when you needed to be doing school work? At 23, you still hold that against them?? And you have the nerve to blame them for you being a compulsive liar??? Give me a fucking break!
Wrong. I did enough school work, thank you very much. I never said I needed to be doing schoolwork, but they thought I did. And even now they can't tolerate me doing that sometimes (what's wrong with having some fun?), even though I am adult now and can support myself very well financially and otherwise. If I want to spend a whole Sunday playing Halo, this is none of their business (especially considering I play games less than 1 hour daily on average).
Two weeks ago I saw an ~8 year old kid with his mom walk into a small CD-store and buy GTA Vice City. His mom was not concerned at all. He was worried to get a version with some custom cars included. Salesperson didn't care in the least. The most concerned person was myself, because I read too much Slashdot and happen to know how fucked up some countries like US are.
All that happened in Russia where people commonly think that it's better for 8-year olds to play Counter-Strike in computer clubs (with constant swearing and stuff) than to play it with real guns in their school, like you do in America. And I've never read anything whatsoever in Russian papers about censoring net for kids or controlling their Internet access. And everyone seems to manage just fine.
stricter parenting doesn't make children misbehave less, it just makes them better at lying
Absolutely! When my parents saw me playing games or web-surfing instead of studying/working, they had their panties in a twist. That's why I now can use Alt+Tab in less than 300ms. And you can bet I never told them truthfully how much I was playing (or even that I was playing at all), because it's easier to lie than to endure the scolding.
Now I am 23, but I am still much more comfortable lying to them than telling the truth. Was it worth it to them to be control freaks? I don't think so.
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OK, give your estimates. Tell us how much the society values a human life. These two examples are just estimates. If you don't like them, give us better ones.
Somehow I don't expect you to be able to come up with examples showing that human life was valued much higher than 10 million dollars. Check out for how much car manufactureres settle the lawsuits, check out, how much insurance companies value one life, etc. Then come back and see that for each copyright infridgement the society may impose a fine as large as 30000. I would understand if this was a total amount for all shared songs at the same time, but multiplying this amount by 1100 somehow doesn't seem right...
The importance we attach to property and the value we assign to it seems way out of whack anymore.
It's even scarier when we attach this value to a vague chimera called "intellectual property".
The absolute bottom line is it results in you gaining something you have no legal or moral right to.
No true. Art belongs to everyone. Everyone has the right to enjoy art. That's why valuable works of art are on display, sometimes for free, in museums all over the world. Copying music == being human. Enjoying art == being human. Sharing MP3s == doing something for the betterment of mankind. Suing kids == being a slimey litiguos toad.
Sharing != distribution. The laws were never intended to stop people sharing something for free (you can argue that this is copying, not sharing, but this is definitely sharing access to the work). The laws were intended to protect the limited monopoly, i.e. stop other people from commercially exploiting the copyrighted product during the term of copyright.
The various P2P networks are a major source of online piracy.
And piracy has its good uses too.
1) You need to make a distinction between commercial piracy and casual piracy. First one is intended to sell a pirated copy of a 1000$ product for 500$. The pirate really deprives the author of one sale, "stealing" it from him. Second is intended to provide free or nearly free copies to people who are not willing to pay for the product and thus have never been potential clients. First type of piracy harms industries, second type helps consumers (in a way similar to libraries). Of course, there is a certain percentage of people, who use pirated copies even though they are willing to pay 1000$, but from my experience, their numbers are relatively small.
2) Piracy helps economy. If I write an office suite, economic output doesn't change. If I make a million copies, it doesn't change. If I sell this million copies, it doesn't really change, only on paper. What has real and immediate economic effect is million users switching from paper (or Notepad) to my office suite and increasing their productivity. Now think about it, how is piracy different from all users buying only legit copies. There are two differences:
- piracy doesn't stimulate software industry to develop more software
+ piracy provides the software to everyone, not just those who are the most desperate (and are willing to pay 1000$)
Don't forget that once the software (the same is true for movies and music) is written, distribution is a zero-sum game. What is sales to software industry (or *AA) is cost to other companies. If Microsoft loses $3bn to piracy, customers get extra $3bn! If MPAA loses $1bn, movie viewers get this $1bn.
She's talking about selling advice, basicaly.
A million $ question - how good is HP at giving advice if their VP can't even explain what their doing and be understood? It's like hiring a press-secretary with speech impediment.
We know that now. It took more than a year for this to become clear. When .Net was announced, noone had no idea whatsoever, check some old articles. And BTW, notice how .Net was used for branding all that time. It seems to me that many of the .Net products had nothing whatsoever in common with your present understanding of .Net
May be we can expect HP to make some meaningful product and start selling it under AE brand in a few years?
1) Teach your employees Ctrl+C, Ctrl+V and other keyboard shortcuts
2) Make sure the refresh rate is set to max on all displays, all mice have long cords and there is enough space on every desk
3) Check that all computers are fast and responsive, anti-virus software doesn't slow PCs down, network is fast
4) Get a easy to organise e-mail program, like Opera M2
5) Install an easy information organising tool, like Treepad
Voila! The first item alone can easily provide 1000% return on investment. Seriously, I don't understand why would anyone start with the hard and expensive solution, when teaching people to use Alt-Tab to switch from a word-process to a spreadsheet would probably make bigger difference.
You should not moderate a person, you should moderate their posts. I don't care about Fux's journal, but this post was obviously funny enough in the second part to not be considered troll.
Well, I am sure not all Finns have broadband, but I immensely enjoyed my Sonera 1024/256 connection (18 euros, no connection/equipment fee, no traffic limits) during a year of my studies in Lappeenranta. :) The education sucked though...
Is it your area of the city?
:) I can pay more to get 256Kb down, but traffic would cost the same, so why bother?
:(( The higher chamber of Russian parlament proposed in 1992-1993 a strategy for development of postindustrial economy. However, Eltsin decided to concentrate on oil and gas instead, just like Gorbachev a decade before.... Fuckers.
Nope, I was one of the first people in the city (5 mln) to get cable.
ISP?
Sure, I can't switch a cable provider, but they all offer the same level of services.
Vintage 1970s coax or copper phone lines?
Digital switching board, quality lines and the cable lines laid down relatively recently.
Could it be your 386 with 16M of RAM?
P4 with 512Mb.
Cheapest access package for cable?
Well, second cheapest I would say.
Overloaded network?
At that sort of prices? You must be kidding.
Bottlenecked backbones?
They are not overloaded, they are just prohibitively expensive. For some unknown reason traffic costs a least a few cents per Mb in the city. So regardless of the ISP, it usually costs 5-7 cents to the end user. And this is given the fact that 300 km from here is Finland where 1024/256 with unlimited traffic costs 18 euros.
When I read this kind of post, I start feeling warm and fuzzy towards capitalism and the bounty
it brings.
The sad thing is that we had capitalism for about 13 years now and Internet even longer, but cheap broadband is nowhere in sight. Russian budget is about 70% of South Korean, but hell will freeze before the state will spend similar amount of money on wiring the country. And given that only a third of the populace have phone access...
The wonders of the free market, my ass. I hate the thugs who took over the country.
Avoiding paying royaties to US and EU is a major component of any sensible comercial or industrial policy in a developing country.
Interestingly enough, the same can be said about piracy. Avoiding paying licensing fees to US and EU is a major component of any sensible commercial or industrial policy in a developing country. I guess this is why piracy is rampant in Russia, China and other developing countries. The only thing I fear is politicians believing their own pro-strong IP propaganda and killing their own economy with anti-piracy measures.
I just hate all South Koreans, Europeans and Americans! :( When I read this kind of news, I start feeling warm and fuzzy towards North Koreans, Arab immigrants and Al Quaeda...
:-(((((
Currently I too need to make a choice.
- To stay with my cable access provider and pay ~80$/month for 128/32Kbps using about 1Gb of traffic (traffic costs 0.07$/Mb).
- To get ADSL and pay 200$ for installation and 60$ monthly for 64/16Kbps and supposedly unlimited traffic.
- To pay 10$ for monthly night dial-up access (2:00-9:00) and schedule large downloads for the dial-up, while using cable access during the day for surfing, e-mail and stuff.
And where do you think I live? Zimbabve? Cuba? Argentina? Bangladesh? No, the second largest city of Russia, just 200 km from Finland, the most wired and the most wireless country. Fuck!
But you forgot Fangorn, a wise and NOT HASTY Ent! In the book he makes a lot of fuss about not disclosing his name to everybody, in the movie he says it to Orcs (presumably) in, what, first 30 seconds of their conversaion? Rrrright. Being so wise, doesn't know jack shit about cut and burned forests and decides to ignore Saruman. And then, after going on an on about not being hasty, changes his mind in like 15 seconds and decides to attack Isengard.
After raping Faramir, I consider destroying Fangorn's character the second worst offence Jackson did to TTT.
Everything I've soon so far indicates that these men have the utmost respect for each other.
I would seriously doubt that, given how little respect PJ has to either Tolkien's book or us, the viewers.
You can rationalise as much as you want, but that doesn't change the fact that a lot of people think TTT stinks. I would love to be excited by the coming ROTK, like I was about FOTR and TTT, but I am not. And the only reason is what PJ did with the 2nd part. Even more, I couldn't care less about watching the TTT Extended Edition in a few days.
Do you realise that Neo says "Whoa" only once during the whole movie. It's the fact that this moment was included in every damn trailer and TV spot that pushed this word into your collective consciousness.
Not everybody likes cakes! But everybody hates lawyers!
Similarly, if a third party offers Google large bucks to do something that goes against the majority shareholders' personal ethics but it's a good business deal, the shareholders are still required to do whatever helps the company's bottom line the most, not what suits their personal ethics.
You mean managers, right?
This is how a publicly traded company works -- all decisions need to be for maximizing shareholder value, not for the majority's personal interests.
This is true for most companies, but this is not a fundamental principle. There is no sure way to tell if something maximizes shareholder value, but in most companies the shareholders demand constant share price growth, so naturally managers are inclined to comply, lest they are replaced after the next shareholders meeting.
In other words the author is VERY biased.
Extremely so. It would be good journalism to contact MSN and ask them to comment on the findings. Surely a simple e-mail would go a long way towards finding out that MSN does, in fact, provide all relevant information about Linux vs. Windows. The problem with MSN is not their desire to kill Linux, it's their orientation towards the advertisers, not the search users.
You're mad at your parents for telling you not to play games when you needed to be doing school work? At 23, you still hold that against them?? And you have the nerve to blame them for you being a compulsive liar??? Give me a fucking break!
Wrong. I did enough school work, thank you very much. I never said I needed to be doing schoolwork, but they thought I did. And even now they can't tolerate me doing that sometimes (what's wrong with having some fun?), even though I am adult now and can support myself very well financially and otherwise. If I want to spend a whole Sunday playing Halo, this is none of their business (especially considering I play games less than 1 hour daily on average).
Or the smart way - turning it so that the infrared port points to your chest.
Assuming he's not tracking down pictures of naked eight year olds, I'd bet he's pretty safe.
But what if he's doing it for his ten year old brother?
Two weeks ago I saw an ~8 year old kid with his mom walk into a small CD-store and buy GTA Vice City. His mom was not concerned at all. He was worried to get a version with some custom cars included. Salesperson didn't care in the least. The most concerned person was myself, because I read too much Slashdot and happen to know how fucked up some countries like US are.
All that happened in Russia where people commonly think that it's better for 8-year olds to play Counter-Strike in computer clubs (with constant swearing and stuff) than to play it with real guns in their school, like you do in America. And I've never read anything whatsoever in Russian papers about censoring net for kids or controlling their Internet access. And everyone seems to manage just fine.
stricter parenting doesn't make children misbehave less, it just makes them better at lying
Absolutely! When my parents saw me playing games or web-surfing instead of studying/working, they had their panties in a twist. That's why I now can use Alt+Tab in less than 300ms. And you can bet I never told them truthfully how much I was playing (or even that I was playing at all), because it's easier to lie than to endure the scolding.
Now I am 23, but I am still much more comfortable lying to them than telling the truth. Was it worth it to them to be control freaks? I don't think so.
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