You can't win the Linux/Windows battle on ideology. Even talking about how software was written brings your argument to a grinding halt. People don't buy software because it was made by someone with "altruistic motives". They buy software because it does what they want it to do. You can't expect people to make their computers do less because it's more ideologically sound. We're talking business:-P
Saying there's no way to determine what's in a closed source project is ridiculous. It's not as if the developers write one byte at a time and don't see anyone else's stuff. The code is open source in microsoft, where it is subject to auditing like anything else in redmond. Just because you don't get a copy of the Office source with your MSOffice CDs doesn't mean to say the code hasn't been looked at under a microscope. Your point about linux vs. microsoft is nearly accurate, but we're talking about something quantifiable here. People buy software to make it do something. The closed source packages you've mentioned are setting the trends. The open source alternatives are actively trying to catch up. They rely on the "we're written by nice guys, and we're cheap" angle to make up for the lack of functionality.
This isn't trolling - I couldn't give a crap which OS/software package is superior (i use what suits me - linux and windows), but standing by while people talk a bunch of nonsense is not helping either argument.
There re more than 10 different MP3 players out there, so 8% to 10% of the market is still phenomenal. The iPod, no matter how staunchly anyone else believes, is the player. Everyone else targets it if they want to release an MP3 player. It's the spec to beat. Those facts speak for themselves. I mean, when was the last MP3-player article you read that compared the player in question to the rio karma and no other MP3 player? Exactly. Oh, maybe on rio-karma-fanboy.com:-P
We're not talking about the cheapest, most ubiquitous product here. We're talking about a product that has revolutionised portable music. A product that's entered the language of the moment. Of course, you can stick to Ogg and FLAC, but then you waive your right to expect your music to run on it. It's that simple.
People don't buy them because they're popular - they're popular because people buy them.
"Can you ssh into your windows machine and restart the webserver with one simple command? Can you totally modify the way your computer runs by writing shell scripts or modifying existing ones?"
Yes, you can. This is a huge misconception about Windows. I SSH into my work computer regularly (I'm in IT support). It has an SSH server installed. Through this, from home, I can double-click an icon on my desktop, enter a password, and it'll restart our apache servers. It's not difficult to do at all.
Scripting in windows is another great feat. Windows has a scripting host built in, which offers incredible functionality. It can use COM objects, which essentially allow your scripts to interface with most software you install on your computer (from Office, IE, iTunes, whatever), all within a script. PHP also runs on Windows, and that lets you write scripts. I've been using linux for years, and Windows for longer, and I have no problem getting Windows to do exactly what I want. Linux is definitely no more adaptable.
You have read about TCP, haven't you? You can use whatever port for whatever purpose you want. You can have your bittorrent client running on port 25 if that floats your boat. You can run SSH, RDP, POP3, IMAP, HTTP, FTP, whatever all running on port 25. Ports are just ports. No one piece of software owns them.
There's simply no debate about portable MP3 players any more. Apple released 3 generations and one sub-brand of the iPod in a few years, each one achieving critical acclaim and market dominance. Review after review finds the user interface superior to any alternative out there. OGG doesn't matter to 99.99% of the users out there (and quite rightly so - being technically superior doesn't automatically guarantee universal takeup).
You can add music to iPods under any OS easily, and copy tracks off just as easily. There is absolutely no comparison. I'm not having a go, but the iPod has won hands-down across the board. Kinda like sticking your head up and calling Jesus a pimp.
I bet that's really handy when you're flying somewhere. Or when your car gets stolen/crashed-into. Heck - why don't you just compare the 20gig portable audio player to your home PC? jeez.
Oh very droll. Seriously. The only people on the internet who bang on about Michael Moore are right-wing, NRA-lovin' nutjobs. Seriously. Everyone else can intelligently and maturely take what they want from his films, and accept them for what they are. Only people who are incapable of such thought shout and scream about it. Your post tells everyone here which category you fall into. cheers!:)
Fantastically obvious post there, Mr. Republican/Libertarian/Idiot. Great work.
Maybe, just maybe, the higher percentage of intelligent people here shows you that more intelligent people are left-leaning than right-leaning. I bet that scares you. It should do:)
It's that "gimmee mentality" that keeps people on Windows as opposed to -insert distro here-. It doesn't matter if that's the right attitude to take - it's the attitude most people have. If your OS doesn't pander to it, forget it - they'll just turn to one that does.
Linux can't win the desktop battle by being better than Windows at being an OS - it has to win by being better than Windows at being Windows. When that happens, Microsoft will be in trouble. Big trouble.
The only thing keeping open source out of the workplace is open source. once it's reached suitable maturity, and can offer the same functionality for less, people will switch. It's not there yet. Soon, but not yet.
And who's the softest target. These people want to win litigation. They don't want to be deemed "correct" in a court. They just want to walk away with a buttload of cash. The US legal system is an absolute, utter farce. I'd be deeply ashamed if it ruled my life.
Exactly - would you buy a car without test-driving it? Absolutely not. Expecting people to fork out tens of dollars on something that could very well turn out to be unstomachable crap is asking a lot. Letting us get our media in a convenient way means we can properly determine whether we like a particular piece. If we do, we're inclined to buy it. What's wrong with that? The only losers are those who rely on people not being able to see how crap their movie/album is before going to see/buy it. They need that money, as they damn well know no-one's going to spend a single cent on seeing/buying it if they knew what rubbish it was.
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If someone's so scared of privacy invasion when they travel by plane, they don't deserve to leave their house. sheesh. Some people.
Saying there's no way to determine what's in a closed source project is ridiculous. It's not as if the developers write one byte at a time and don't see anyone else's stuff. The code is open source in microsoft, where it is subject to auditing like anything else in redmond. Just because you don't get a copy of the Office source with your MSOffice CDs doesn't mean to say the code hasn't been looked at under a microscope. Your point about linux vs. microsoft is nearly accurate, but we're talking about something quantifiable here. People buy software to make it do something. The closed source packages you've mentioned are setting the trends. The open source alternatives are actively trying to catch up. They rely on the "we're written by nice guys, and we're cheap" angle to make up for the lack of functionality.
This isn't trolling - I couldn't give a crap which OS/software package is superior (i use what suits me - linux and windows), but standing by while people talk a bunch of nonsense is not helping either argument.
There re more than 10 different MP3 players out there, so 8% to 10% of the market is still phenomenal. The iPod, no matter how staunchly anyone else believes, is the player. Everyone else targets it if they want to release an MP3 player. It's the spec to beat. Those facts speak for themselves. I mean, when was the last MP3-player article you read that compared the player in question to the rio karma and no other MP3 player? Exactly. Oh, maybe on rio-karma-fanboy.com :-P
People don't buy them because they're popular - they're popular because people buy them.
This one for starters. They are out there.
Yes, you can. This is a huge misconception about Windows. I SSH into my work computer regularly (I'm in IT support). It has an SSH server installed. Through this, from home, I can double-click an icon on my desktop, enter a password, and it'll restart our apache servers. It's not difficult to do at all.
Scripting in windows is another great feat. Windows has a scripting host built in, which offers incredible functionality. It can use COM objects, which essentially allow your scripts to interface with most software you install on your computer (from Office, IE, iTunes, whatever), all within a script. PHP also runs on Windows, and that lets you write scripts. I've been using linux for years, and Windows for longer, and I have no problem getting Windows to do exactly what I want. Linux is definitely no more adaptable.
The ps2 is only 300mhz... Modern PDAs are usually at 400mhz, and cellphones are on a similar pegging, but usually a bit behind :)
You have read about TCP, haven't you? You can use whatever port for whatever purpose you want. You can have your bittorrent client running on port 25 if that floats your boat. You can run SSH, RDP, POP3, IMAP, HTTP, FTP, whatever all running on port 25. Ports are just ports. No one piece of software owns them.
There's simply no debate about portable MP3 players any more. Apple released 3 generations and one sub-brand of the iPod in a few years, each one achieving critical acclaim and market dominance. Review after review finds the user interface superior to any alternative out there. OGG doesn't matter to 99.99% of the users out there (and quite rightly so - being technically superior doesn't automatically guarantee universal takeup).
You can add music to iPods under any OS easily, and copy tracks off just as easily. There is absolutely no comparison. I'm not having a go, but the iPod has won hands-down across the board. Kinda like sticking your head up and calling Jesus a pimp.
Which "iPod" did you get those figures for? The 40gig was bigger than the smaller sizes...
"Killed the MiniDisc players" - you must be American.
I bet that's really handy when you're flying somewhere. Or when your car gets stolen/crashed-into. Heck - why don't you just compare the 20gig portable audio player to your home PC? jeez.
They support compact-flash on most Sony devices now (especially cameras). The days of memory-sticks-only are over.
Oh very droll. Seriously. The only people on the internet who bang on about Michael Moore are right-wing, NRA-lovin' nutjobs. Seriously. Everyone else can intelligently and maturely take what they want from his films, and accept them for what they are. Only people who are incapable of such thought shout and scream about it. Your post tells everyone here which category you fall into. cheers! :)
Maybe, just maybe, the higher percentage of intelligent people here shows you that more intelligent people are left-leaning than right-leaning. I bet that scares you. It should do :)
You honestly think Bush is doing well for the world? Wow. That's insane. You don't read the news, do you?
krispy kreme give you free donuts! my point stands... ;)
Damn you suck. Ever think about the owners of those packages?
You can change the ports services run on, btw... it's not that hard :-P
Linux can't win the desktop battle by being better than Windows at being an OS - it has to win by being better than Windows at being Windows. When that happens, Microsoft will be in trouble. Big trouble.
"Logitech Cyberman" springs to mind. I had one of those :) Didn't do much apart from vibrate, but that's another story.
The only thing keeping open source out of the workplace is open source. once it's reached suitable maturity, and can offer the same functionality for less, people will switch. It's not there yet. Soon, but not yet.
And who's the softest target. These people want to win litigation. They don't want to be deemed "correct" in a court. They just want to walk away with a buttload of cash. The US legal system is an absolute, utter farce. I'd be deeply ashamed if it ruled my life.
Exactly - would you buy a car without test-driving it? Absolutely not. Expecting people to fork out tens of dollars on something that could very well turn out to be unstomachable crap is asking a lot. Letting us get our media in a convenient way means we can properly determine whether we like a particular piece. If we do, we're inclined to buy it. What's wrong with that? The only losers are those who rely on people not being able to see how crap their movie/album is before going to see/buy it. They need that money, as they damn well know no-one's going to spend a single cent on seeing/buying it if they knew what rubbish it was.
check out this dude - he's all artcrimey :)