Comparing PHP 4.3.x series to
ASP.NET (both 1 and 1.1) at secunia. It seems to me that the vulnerabilities
are 10 to 3. If you were recommending a product, at least do some research
before you do.
I know people always point out Apache and IIS, but when you compare IIS6 and Apache 2 you will quickly realize that IIs6 i belive has no exploits, while apache 2 has quite a few, but apache 2 still does not get attacked...Why i do not know.
MS SQL got attacked months after a patch was released, I believe a smacking of admins is in order not the product. Every DB out there has had enough vulnerabilities.
FAct is just cause you dont use/know windows aint my fault...
OpenOffice might load incrementally, but they do a terrible job at it then.
If you notice i was talking about Windows/MS applications and not third party apps, this is because it is optimization done by MS and not others.
And you agree with the other guy that linux loads application only once when 2 users are running it..... you should get userself introduced to the concept of security and seperate processes for different users....
And all of you dont know the difference between Outlook and Outlook Express.
Outlook: Microsoft's Flagship PIM/Email Desktop software part of Office Outlook Express: Microsoft's Free Email/News Client
I use outlook 2k3 and trust me thunderbird does not have all the features i want, evolution kinda does....
Of course windows is horrible about program usage...it tries to open new copies of programs in ram every time you start another... again, the design of Linux proves much better for this situation!
What the f*** are you talking about.... You do realize that even in linux when you are signing in from another dumb terminal you do launch most of the applications over again. So for instance if two users were on the same running abiword, there will be 2 instances of abiword in memory.
Windows and most MS programs actually seem/are faster than most opensource programs because they actually dont load the entire program in memory. They load only parts and load more as needed by the user. That is why when i launch word on my machine it loads as fast as wordpad loads while openoffice takes a lot longer.
show me one country that is not like that. I am indian, but now live in the US, in many ways India is the same too, people do act like idiots. The government does bend over to corporations...
Once you get attacked it all the same, people will be angry and the govt will gladly enforce laws to take away rights....ironically to pacify them
Seems to load quick but it uses atleast 50% of processing power of my Athlon XP 2200. Most DIVX, WMV, MPEG files use maybe 15% processing power while showing a video. So it performance stills lacks, but i am still impressed that class and decoder load that quick even under slashdot load....
Sort of that only prevents writing to the disks, but does not prevent a usb storage device being pluged in. But this setting alone should be more than adequate for most people.
well he also says "Today's PC has on average 64 megabytes of cache"... So I doubt this "invention" is even real. But then what do i know about UV rays flipping molecules...Maybe he just does not know computers.
You need to take a history class... There have been kings that have absolutely hated by people, and there have been dictators loved by their people.
But either way.... they do get to act like rulers of the PC world, because they are.
I am looking at the title going a Linux bash headline on slashdot, now i must have been dreaming. But I am sure that i would not post that here, knowing i would loose all my karma in one stroke.
The words over there when you read the games list were "you may experience". It does not happen for all users. I run halo all the time with a unprivildged user account, and trust me it works.
Also if you look at every major application made by MS, all of them run in user space, I run enough machines in my university to know what application do and what do not work in Windows user space. The one major problem we do run into is Visual Studio, but that is because of the debugging features, which can also be granted easily.
There are enough opensource apps in windows that have this problem.
Firefox, first run after installation requires Admin to run it, otherwise crashes over and over again
MySQL, if you enable innoDB, Which is by default, it likes to crash in user space
But yes this problem is more pronounced with other third party windows applications.
Well actually they use most of those features, expcept the reparse point. Which is there was for posix subsystem.(But also works under win32)
They use streams on the server OS, when you have afs enabled. They use encryption, and be enabled on any folder. They have been using journaling since win2k. And anyone using windows is using ACLs, and unicode...
I completly agree MS could do more to force users to run as a "user". But then every application including opensource apps have problems with it running as admin. For instance, Firefox needs to run as an Admin user the first time it is lauched. MySQL on windows, as of version 4.0.20 i think crashes if you set it up to run with user priviledges (You can fix it by disabling innodb.
But either way, every MS application i have used works fine under user mode, it is third party applications that assume that you will be an admin. This includes Winamp, napster (works not as well), Firefox(first run), Meeting Maker, PageMaker etc.
Maybe because VC++ is about 6+ years old... I use Visual Studio 2003 and VC++ 6, without any problems as a 'user'. You just need an admin that can setup debugging options in the security settings.
I much as I like google news, you only get a very small crossection of the news. Personally, I like to read through a couple of news sites to get a broader view of whats going on in the world.
ummm... ya that does not stop people from hating Intel, Sun. IBM, AOL or the any number of other companies around. The only difference is that they are still in the consumer electronics market, you do not have any kind of customization, or any speed requirements for most of their applications. Do you remember the last time you hated some company for making that chipset in your VCR?
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Comparing PHP 4.3.x series to ASP.NET (both 1 and 1.1) at secunia. It seems to me that the vulnerabilities are 10 to 3. If you were recommending a product, at least do some research before you do.
But when companies win against MS they can afford the bill, most opensource apps cannot afford such a bill and neither can its developers.
Yes and everyone did think jpeg, pngs and bmps were safe too.
I am not saying it is easy to do, but it is a possibility.
I know people always point out Apache and IIS, but when you compare IIS6 and Apache 2 you will quickly realize that IIs6 i belive has no exploits, while apache 2 has quite a few, but apache 2 still does not get attacked...Why i do not know.
MS SQL got attacked months after a patch was released, I believe a smacking of admins is in order not the product. Every DB out there has had enough vulnerabilities.
I just wonder how many people on slashdot would even understand that....
To those who dont know.. [ comes after Z in ASCII and unicode-latin
hey aMoron
/know windows aint my fault...
FAct is just cause you dont use
OpenOffice might load incrementally, but they do a terrible job at it then.
If you notice i was talking about Windows/MS applications and not third party apps, this is because it is optimization done by MS and not others.
And you agree with the other guy that linux loads application only once when 2 users are running it..... you should get userself introduced to the concept of security and seperate processes for different users....
And all of you dont know the difference between Outlook and Outlook Express.
Outlook: Microsoft's Flagship PIM/Email Desktop software part of Office
Outlook Express: Microsoft's Free Email/News Client
I use outlook 2k3 and trust me thunderbird does not have all the features i want, evolution kinda does....
Of course windows is horrible about program usage...it tries to open new copies of programs in ram every time you start another... again, the design of Linux proves much better for this situation!
What the f*** are you talking about.... You do realize that even in linux when you are signing in from another dumb terminal you do launch most of the applications over again. So for instance if two users were on the same running abiword, there will be 2 instances of abiword in memory.
Windows and most MS programs actually seem/are faster than most opensource programs because they actually dont load the entire program in memory. They load only parts and load more as needed by the user. That is why when i launch word on my machine it loads as fast as wordpad loads while openoffice takes a lot longer.
show me one country that is not like that. I am indian, but now live in the US, in many ways India is the same too, people do act like idiots. The government does bend over to corporations...
Once you get attacked it all the same, people will be angry and the govt will gladly enforce laws to take away rights....ironically to pacify them
Seems to load quick but it uses atleast 50% of processing power of my Athlon XP 2200. Most DIVX, WMV, MPEG files use maybe 15% processing power while showing a video.
So it performance stills lacks, but i am still impressed that class and decoder load that quick even under slashdot load....
Sort of that only prevents writing to the disks, but does not prevent a usb storage device being pluged in. But this setting alone should be more than adequate for most people.
iPod acts just like any other USB storage device on Windows. It is still a security issue.
And the King of them all IBM... (dont forget the Power architecture)
well he also says "Today's PC has on average 64 megabytes of cache" ...
So I doubt this "invention" is even real. But then what do i know about UV rays flipping molecules...Maybe he just does not know computers.
You need to take a history class... There have been kings that have absolutely hated by people, and there have been dictators loved by their people.
But either way.... they do get to act like rulers of the PC world, because they are.
May you cant read, but 'Rival nibbles at IE', and 'Two other options to IE' are not indicative of NewsBot supporting IE.
I am looking at the title going a Linux bash headline on slashdot, now i must have been dreaming. But I am sure that i would not post that here, knowing i would loose all my karma in one stroke.
Also if you look at every major application made by MS, all of them run in user space, I run enough machines in my university to know what application do and what do not work in Windows user space. The one major problem we do run into is Visual Studio, but that is because of the debugging features, which can also be granted easily.
There are enough opensource apps in windows that have this problem.
But yes this problem is more pronounced with other third party windows applications.
Well actually they use most of those features, expcept the reparse point. Which is there was for posix subsystem.(But also works under win32)
They use streams on the server OS, when you have afs enabled. They use encryption, and be enabled on any folder. They have been using journaling since win2k. And anyone using windows is using ACLs, and unicode...
I would look into the Matrox Parhelia series of cards. They are designed for high end use in DV, CAD GIS etc.
not exactly... Dumping does not apply to all industries... cause if it does free software and opensource would be in lots of trouble...
I completly agree MS could do more to force users to run as a "user".
But then every application including opensource apps have problems with it running as admin. For instance, Firefox needs to run as an Admin user the first time it is lauched. MySQL on windows, as of version 4.0.20 i think crashes if you set it up to run with user priviledges (You can fix it by disabling innodb.
But either way, every MS application i have used works fine under user mode, it is third party applications that assume that you will be an admin. This includes Winamp, napster (works not as well), Firefox(first run), Meeting Maker, PageMaker etc.
Maybe because VC++ is about 6+ years old...
I use Visual Studio 2003 and VC++ 6, without any problems as a 'user'. You just need an admin that can setup debugging options in the security settings.
I much as I like google news, you only get a very small crossection of the news. Personally, I like to read through a couple of news sites to get a broader view of whats going on in the world.
ummm... ya that does not stop people from hating Intel, Sun. IBM, AOL or the any number of other companies around.
The only difference is that they are still in the consumer electronics market, you do not have any kind of customization, or any speed requirements for most of their applications.
Do you remember the last time you hated some company for making that chipset in your VCR?