You ask the average user TODAY, and s/he will give you the same answer TODAY as he would have given in 1998: "The Internet? That's that 'WWW' thingie."
I host my own email, and I use SA, PROCMAIL, RAZOR/PYZOR, etc. to help scrub what comes through the port(s). But I'm not a typical user. And I still consider that I'm vulnerable, because it's what you don't see that gets you, and my level of ignorance is STILL profound.
(NB: The funniest thing I ever saw regarding "ignorant users" is the lady a few years ago that kept yelling at everyone on Usenet to "stop sending me emails!" She thought her Newsreader was her mail client.)
...such things as photo releases, and the parents may have grounds for action here.
Er, the dopy kids who originally uploaded the video to KaZaa aren't "professional videographers," so why would they have the kid sign a "release?"
So what is it with you people? If the kids are uploading someone else's professionally-produced intellectual property, they're "striking a blow for freedom of self-expression," but if they upload a goofy amateur video, they should've had him sign a release?
This place is through the looking glass, and no joke.
It doesn't have anything to do with "what P2P really is." You don't have to understand "what a camera really is" to understand that it is used in making kiddie porn, for example.
The point is that it is a FACT that P2P is a prime conduit for transmission of child pornography, and needs to be monitored as such.
I don't get your logic. They're pointing out that P2P is a big, big source of kiddie-porn, and you respond with a bunch of "chaff" that boils down to the fact that kiddie porn exists?
What am I missing here?
The fact that P2P is a major conduit for kiddie porn means it is a legitimate area of inquiry. Very little good comes out of P2P crap. Most of it is illegal. Those P2P endeavors that are not, ought to be glad to get it cleaned up.
Guess what? Organized religion has caused some pretty strange things to happen, too.
As the exception, not the rule. Those who insist on a "god-optional" philosophy, however, have been uniform in their lust for blood.
Those slaughtered in the name of godless totalitarianism in the Twentieth Century dwarf in number--by a couple of orders of magnitude--the total number killed in the "name" of religion.
Finally, those who do kill for their god, can only do so by disavowing the basic tenets of their religion. "Do unto others" has to go out the window first.
So in the end, those who lean to their own understanding, not allowing the divine to work in at all, are those who kill, maim, rob, and destroy in their many ways.
And THAT comes from a "god-free" attitude toward "morality."
True morals come from God, no matter if people like you wish to credit it, or no.
MM-hm. Those who were famous for their self-made morality in the past hundred years or so include such "visionaries" as Josef Stalin, Pol Pot, Adolph Hitler, Mao Zhedong and Kim Il-Sung.
Oh, but I'm sure you mean "the RIGHT morality." And what is right? Who is arbiter of "rightness," here?
Interesting that all the world's major religions include some version of the Golden Rule, something that the likes of Friederich Nietzche and Ayn Rand find sophomoric and simple-minded.
So much for your "morality in a vacuum." That you can't see that your sense of morality came from a higher source than yourself puts you about on a par with my teenage daughter.
Why do you assume that morals cannot exist without religion?
I don't "assume" anything. This isn't the first time in history that men have turned to worshipping the works of their own hands, and the results are always the same.
You assume that without fear of eternal damnation, people will do whatever they want and knowingly act in immoral ways.
Now it is YOU who are assuming. I said nothing about "eternal damnation." When you believe there is a higher power, a cause greater than yourself, when you turn yourself outward and realize that "do unto others" is beneficial to yourself as well as the other, civilization works.
When you worship yourself, your own intellect, the works of your hands, your lucre, your "perfect" body, etc., you have no time for anyone and anything that might distract from it, and they are fodder for your ego.
Human nature never changes, and just because we live in a hyper-technological society that allows nearly everyone freedom to indulge in self-worship--including worship of their own intellect--does not change basic human nature.
"Capitalism" has always been about "beating" the other fellow under the Marquis of Queensbury Rules.
You "beat" him by being better than he, by serving your customers better, by getting your product to market faster, by doing what it takes within the bounds of good sportsmanship.
It's the kind of thing where at the end of the day, your competitor looks at you, KNOWS you've "beaten" him, and grudgingly tips his cap to you.
Instead, today we have people cutting each others entrails out to feed to the sharks. At the end of THIS day, you look at the one who has beaten you, and wonder if you know someone who knows someone who can put out a hit contract on the guy's firstborn son.
We are living in a "post-Christian" society, and this is the result. Ego is god.
When is the last time you saw on CNN or NBC the title "When Repubs Attack"
Read Bernard Goldberg's "Bias" for the answer to that (hint: You see it all the time).
If Fox News is so good, where are all of its awards?
Who gives out these "awards"? Oh, that's right, the same people who congratulate each other over their "objective" leftist-slanted news reporting from the last six decades.
I might ask where ABCNBCCBSCNNMSNBC's viewers are.
No one seriously considers pushing a broom to be "engineering," no more than they consider that you need an advanced medical degree to be a 'spin doctor.'
But "hacking" a bit of code ain't "engineering," no matter how you slice it. There are situations where software can actually be "engineered," but this isn't one of 'em.
And FWIW, you might note that in all fifty states, plus D.C., P.R., the V.I. and Guam, the term "Engineer" is a legally reserved term. So my "rant" isn't exactly shouting in a vacuum.
In other words "charity is charity when you do it quietly". Boasting about it on the other hand, is self publicising and earns you no brownie points...
Well, it depends.
In the present case what Gates is probably doing is trying to get out of the gunsights of Fed bureaucrats and Congressmen. You have to do stuff like this, you know, so that the I.R.S. conveniently forgets to open up yet another case file on you.
"The power to tax is the power to destroy," and "Caesar" wants FAR MORE than just what ought to be "rendered" him.
As a REAL engineer-that designs buildings and bridges and such-I'd just like to live in a world where a gaggle of renegade codies aren't considered "engineers".
You're right, they are. Which is exactly why CNN is dying the slow death, ABCNBCCBS has become "entertainment 24/7", and PMS-NBC is yet another failed division of Microsoft.
You people who slam Fox never seem to mention that FNC came out of nowhere to stomp the competition. And why? Because it's news for the silent majority, without the Walter Cronkite-wannabe "let's talk down to the unwashed pointy-headed masses" bullshit.
spammers will no longer make money and will stop spamming.
My impression is that it isn't the "spammers" that are making the money, but rather those selling "spamming services" (spamware, upstream/downstream support networks, etc.)
Sort of like "Make millions in real estate wtih no money down"(TM). The only ones who REALLY make the money are those selling the books, tapes and videos.
the V-22 Osprey really HAS no reason to exist (and all the army personnel at risk of dying in one should rejoice)."
Well, that tears it. The Osprey is a MARINE craft (yeah, Boeing claims it's "for all four militaries" but the U.S. military is notoriously NIH-averse).
Now you're going to have thousands of Devil-Dogs howling for your blood, for inadvertently calling them "army personnel."
Why not just complete your death wish, and apologize to the "G.I.'s" while you're at it.
You ask the average user TODAY, and s/he will give you the same answer TODAY as he would have given in 1998: "The Internet? That's that 'WWW' thingie."
I host my own email, and I use SA, PROCMAIL, RAZOR/PYZOR, etc. to help scrub what comes through the port(s). But I'm not a typical user. And I still consider that I'm vulnerable, because it's what you don't see that gets you, and my level of ignorance is STILL profound.
(NB: The funniest thing I ever saw regarding "ignorant users" is the lady a few years ago that kept yelling at everyone on Usenet to "stop sending me emails!" She thought her Newsreader was her mail client.)
I'm guessing here that the kids did NOT consult their attorneys before uploading.
Stupid kids! ALWAYS consult your family consigliere before you EVER upload ANYTHING to the Internet!
Er, the dopy kids who originally uploaded the video to KaZaa aren't "professional videographers," so why would they have the kid sign a "release?"
So what is it with you people? If the kids are uploading someone else's professionally-produced intellectual property, they're "striking a blow for freedom of self-expression," but if they upload a goofy amateur video, they should've had him sign a release?
This place is through the looking glass, and no joke.
The point is that it is a FACT that P2P is a prime conduit for transmission of child pornography, and needs to be monitored as such.
Where there's smoke...
What am I missing here?
The fact that P2P is a major conduit for kiddie porn means it is a legitimate area of inquiry. Very little good comes out of P2P crap. Most of it is illegal. Those P2P endeavors that are not, ought to be glad to get it cleaned up.
In fact, P2P IS a big part of the child porn subculture.
It still IS better.
As the exception, not the rule. Those who insist on a "god-optional" philosophy, however, have been uniform in their lust for blood.
Those slaughtered in the name of godless totalitarianism in the Twentieth Century dwarf in number--by a couple of orders of magnitude--the total number killed in the "name" of religion.
Finally, those who do kill for their god, can only do so by disavowing the basic tenets of their religion. "Do unto others" has to go out the window first.
So in the end, those who lean to their own understanding, not allowing the divine to work in at all, are those who kill, maim, rob, and destroy in their many ways.
And THAT comes from a "god-free" attitude toward "morality."
True morals come from God, no matter if people like you wish to credit it, or no.
Oh, but I'm sure you mean "the RIGHT morality." And what is right? Who is arbiter of "rightness," here?
Interesting that all the world's major religions include some version of the Golden Rule, something that the likes of Friederich Nietzche and Ayn Rand find sophomoric and simple-minded.
So much for your "morality in a vacuum." That you can't see that your sense of morality came from a higher source than yourself puts you about on a par with my teenage daughter.
No wonder we're in such a mess.
I don't "assume" anything. This isn't the first time in history that men have turned to worshipping the works of their own hands, and the results are always the same.
You assume that without fear of eternal damnation, people will do whatever they want and knowingly act in immoral ways.
Now it is YOU who are assuming. I said nothing about "eternal damnation." When you believe there is a higher power, a cause greater than yourself, when you turn yourself outward and realize that "do unto others" is beneficial to yourself as well as the other, civilization works.
When you worship yourself, your own intellect, the works of your hands, your lucre, your "perfect" body, etc., you have no time for anyone and anything that might distract from it, and they are fodder for your ego.
Human nature never changes, and just because we live in a hyper-technological society that allows nearly everyone freedom to indulge in self-worship--including worship of their own intellect--does not change basic human nature.
The proper question is: When did it go OUT of the equation?
The answer: When we stopped worshipping God and began worshipping ourselves, and the works of our hands.
Got Palm?
MM-hm.
You nailed it.
"Capitalism" has always been about "beating" the other fellow under the Marquis of Queensbury Rules.
You "beat" him by being better than he, by serving your customers better, by getting your product to market faster, by doing what it takes within the bounds of good sportsmanship.
It's the kind of thing where at the end of the day, your competitor looks at you, KNOWS you've "beaten" him, and grudgingly tips his cap to you.
Instead, today we have people cutting each others entrails out to feed to the sharks. At the end of THIS day, you look at the one who has beaten you, and wonder if you know someone who knows someone who can put out a hit contract on the guy's firstborn son.
We are living in a "post-Christian" society, and this is the result. Ego is god.
Is this the same guy that attacked Dan Rather on the street?
Ah, you know those Mac-heads.
They liked the game so much they all went out and bought another copy.
Read Bernard Goldberg's "Bias" for the answer to that (hint: You see it all the time).
If Fox News is so good, where are all of its awards?
Who gives out these "awards"? Oh, that's right, the same people who congratulate each other over their "objective" leftist-slanted news reporting from the last six decades.
I might ask where ABCNBCCBSCNNMSNBC's viewers are.
But "hacking" a bit of code ain't "engineering," no matter how you slice it. There are situations where software can actually be "engineered," but this isn't one of 'em.
And FWIW, you might note that in all fifty states, plus D.C., P.R., the V.I. and Guam, the term "Engineer" is a legally reserved term. So my "rant" isn't exactly shouting in a vacuum.
Sincerely, a REAL, LIVE, LICENSED "P.E."
Well, it depends.
In the present case what Gates is probably doing is trying to get out of the gunsights of Fed bureaucrats and Congressmen. You have to do stuff like this, you know, so that the I.R.S. conveniently forgets to open up yet another case file on you.
"The power to tax is the power to destroy," and "Caesar" wants FAR MORE than just what ought to be "rendered" him.
Well, since they spent the last century and a half "sold out" to the State of Pennsylvania, this could be PROGRESS.
As a REAL engineer-that designs buildings and bridges and such-I'd just like to live in a world where a gaggle of renegade codies aren't considered "engineers".
You people who slam Fox never seem to mention that FNC came out of nowhere to stomp the competition. And why? Because it's news for the silent majority, without the Walter Cronkite-wannabe "let's talk down to the unwashed pointy-headed masses" bullshit.
My impression is that it isn't the "spammers" that are making the money, but rather those selling "spamming services" (spamware, upstream/downstream support networks, etc.)
Sort of like "Make millions in real estate wtih no money down"(TM). The only ones who REALLY make the money are those selling the books, tapes and videos.
Well, that tears it. The Osprey is a MARINE craft (yeah, Boeing claims it's "for all four militaries" but the U.S. military is notoriously NIH-averse).
Now you're going to have thousands of Devil-Dogs howling for your blood, for inadvertently calling them "army personnel."
Why not just complete your death wish, and apologize to the "G.I.'s" while you're at it.
Why you Brits can't get Subject-Verb agreement straight are beyond me...