Do you actually think the people being hired do not know good programming practices? Dont fool yourself - most computer engineers worldwide program much the same, and are exposed to the same best practices.
Don't underestimate the other guy, that's the easiest way to lose wars/economies/jobs
Do not take that article at face value - it's a whining article by a faux-white. Bangalore is a very savvy city in many ways. Refer a number of articles - Google them yourself.
I reproduce below a response to the original article that sums up the reality of the situation. Do not underestimate the quality of Bangaloreans/Indians just because they are not American. Most urban Indians have a far better education than many Americans.Underestimating your rival (economic) is the easiest way to lose a deal/war/empire
From the responses to the article cited:
Subject: Who made you a Director?
first question that came to my mind,cauz atleast the Directors whom I know about will never dare to insult anybody.What makes people great is not their position or the number of degrees that they have,but their character,their humility.You are pathetic at that.To introduce myself,I am a cyber coolie,according to your description,but a coolie whos passionate about what he does,who takes pride in what he does.Clients come to us with problems that haunt their business, problems which could be solved technically.We work with them to identify the actual issue and then architect a solution for them.Now throughout my career what I have found challenging is not the technology,but the task of translating the complex business scenarios into code.Our clients are very much appreciative of this and mind you,I am talking about millions of dollars here(if you can understand the magnitude). This list includes Fortune 500 companies and military institutions.All I think about you is somebody whos frustrated with his career life,doesnt understand the word passion or pride,and taking out his frustration on something.Agree with what good things you said abt silicon valley. -- I am not from Bangalore
Posted by Swaroop on 10-MAR-04
Pray tell - what precisely is wrong with Microsoft, or any other company funding another company? Companies do this all the time. Providing funds through a holding company or joint partnership is a very common model.
The unethicality of SCO's actions are obvious. What is not valid is that Microsoft did something wrong by funding SCO. I am open to correction on this front.
From Nasa:
What is the atmosphere of Mars made up of?
ANSWER from the Internet:
LFM Web pages -
The atmosphere of Mars is broken down as follows:
95.32% Carbon Dioxide - CO2 2.7% Nitrogen - N2
1.6% Argon - Ar
0.13% Oxygen - O2
0.07% Carbon Monoxide - CO
0.03% Water - H2O
0.00025% Neon - Ne
0.00003% Krypton - Kr
0.000008% Xenon - Xe
0.000003% Ozone - O3
This does not take into account nitrates in the ground, which might have contributed to atmospheric nitrogen in the past. Also, the water % in the table above is probably going to be revised, perhaps, studies on Nitrogen density are likely.
Further, nitrosomas and nitrobacter are extremely common bacteria in earth water - ask anyone who's run an aquarium - I predict they may be among the first bacteria discovered on Mars.
Of the elements known to exist in the body, some, possibly all, are necessary to life. They are carbon, hydrogen, nitrogen, oxygen, potassium, sodium, iron, copper, manganese, zinc, magnesium, lithium, phosphorus, sulphur, chlorine, iodine, barium, silicon.
Also, Methionine is an essential amino acid that is not synthesized by the body and must be obtained from food. It is one of the "sulphur-containing" amino acids and is important in many body functions.
It is likely that sulphur, coupled with the different ferrous hydrides can produce viable conditions for life.
Very good points in this post - unfortunately no one in the media/slashdot will pick up on these points because they are married to the bottle-fed paradigm.
What such people tend to ignore is the years of imposition of IMF/WorldBank/US policies on nations like India that caused India to embrace liberalisation & free trade, and in effect become as competitive, if not more, than many American companies.
All over the world, labour moves where the jobs are. Not in the US. Here, everyone wants a job in South Milwaukee or East Dallas or wherever they are ensconced.
This is a big opportunity to reduce traffic jams, said Thilo Koslowski, vice president and lead automotive analyst at Gartner Group, a technology research firm. "The challenge is to get enough cars with these devices on the road to collect enough data."
This can potentially further clog the microwave/radio spectrum, depending on the range of these sensors. Also, unless some standard exists/is applied, competing manufacturers could select different protocols, leading to a babel of messages, and more traffic jams rather than less
It could have some good use as an anti-theft device.
No comments on the Orwellian overtones of the original post
It is hard to tell whether one is an alarmist or a Cassandra until after the fact. I'm sure Cassandra was considered an alarmist before the Trojan incident, pun unintended
Stories of this nature tend to bring out alarmists, Cassandras, and 'the sky is falling' types as well as rationalists and 'it-couldnt-happen-here' types.
The tendency of the human race to both improve it's awareness of the world while at the same time endangering itself has been the cause of grief and happiness.
This though, seems to be of little benefit to anyone, unless it guarantees a cure for the common cold!
Fin de Siecle feelings after the millenium? Methinks the malaise spreads too far
Re:Search engine spam is the key...
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Consider this - a web where you have certain seedy neighborhoods (known to all by IP address ranges perhaps - a la zip codes) and 'good' neighborhoods. Consider also the dynamics that would cause traffic to flow between good and bad neighborhoods. Finally consider an indexer/aggregator of information that allowed you to traverse between sites in the same or similar neighborhoods.
The semantic web? or would it be a form of segregation? And how would google, or a new engine distinguish between neighborhoods. Also, how would you gentrify a neighborhood?
Google, IMHO, has excelled in what truly counts in the consumer world - branding. As everyone, including slashdotters, knows, googling is now a verb, and not just in math textbooks.
Enough branding studies have shown that it's very very hard to knock someone off their post once they seize a certain mindshare - e.g. Coke, Windows(grin), and now Google.
So, irrespective of the technical competence, or otherwise of Google, it is going to be around and the leader, for a long time to come.
P.S. My favorite missing google feature: search for bittorrent files
Opera's revenue is about a third of Google's last quarter. Google's ad-words program ensures revenue. Not sure how Opera can ensure sustained revenue for a freeware browser that has a low share of the browser market(????)
So, I would assume, Google. Also factor in the demand factor for the shares, expectation of being the next Netscape, etc.,
Will be interesting to see how Opera performs as a public company
moron - that's call centers only - tech jobs - coders, designers, etc can be called anything for all you care - Incidentally take a look at the developers of Adobe or any other project and try to spot the Indian-sounding names - not hard - there are so many.
Further, the call center workers use pseudonyms only because of the insular, cretinous American customers they service who think everyone should be named Bill, Harry or Jack
Slashdot Mirror
Don't underestimate the other guy, that's the easiest way to lose wars/economies/jobs
Mod parent up informative!!
I reproduce below a response to the original article that sums up the reality of the situation. Do not underestimate the quality of Bangaloreans/Indians just because they are not American. Most urban Indians have a far better education than many Americans.Underestimating your rival (economic) is the easiest way to lose a deal/war/empire
From the responses to the article cited:
Subject: Who made you a Director? first question that came to my mind,cauz atleast the Directors whom I know about will never dare to insult anybody.What makes people great is not their position or the number of degrees that they have,but their character,their humility.You are pathetic at that.To introduce myself,I am a cyber coolie,according to your description,but a coolie whos passionate about what he does,who takes pride in what he does.Clients come to us with problems that haunt their business, problems which could be solved technically.We work with them to identify the actual issue and then architect a solution for them.Now throughout my career what I have found challenging is not the technology,but the task of translating the complex business scenarios into code.Our clients are very much appreciative of this and mind you,I am talking about millions of dollars here(if you can understand the magnitude). This list includes Fortune 500 companies and military institutions.All I think about you is somebody whos frustrated with his career life,doesnt understand the word passion or pride,and taking out his frustration on something.Agree with what good things you said abt silicon valley. -- I am not from Bangalore Posted by Swaroop on 10-MAR-04
Seriously, do you know Mcdonalds is starting home delivery in India?
Oh, Did I leave out Germany in the 1930s?
Consider the volume of production achieved because of 24x7 plants running globally
Consider the relative strength of the dollar
The unethicality of SCO's actions are obvious. What is not valid is that Microsoft did something wrong by funding SCO. I am open to correction on this front.
That was Oberon - the Fairy King. Ref: Shakespeare's A Midsummer Night's Dream
95.32% Carbon Dioxide - CO2
2.7% Nitrogen - N2
1.6% Argon - Ar
0.13% Oxygen - O2
0.07% Carbon Monoxide - CO
0.03% Water - H2O
0.00025% Neon - Ne
0.00003% Krypton - Kr
0.000008% Xenon - Xe
0.000003% Ozone - O3
This does not take into account nitrates in the ground, which might have contributed to atmospheric nitrogen in the past. Also, the water % in the table above is probably going to be revised, perhaps, studies on Nitrogen density are likely.
Further, nitrosomas and nitrobacter are extremely common bacteria in earth water - ask anyone who's run an aquarium - I predict they may be among the first bacteria discovered on Mars.
My .02 cents
Incidentally. Venus has an even more interesting soup of elements - and heat too - sounds promising
Also, Methionine is an essential amino acid that is not synthesized by the body and must be obtained from food. It is one of the "sulphur-containing" amino acids and is important in many body functions.
It is likely that sulphur, coupled with the different ferrous hydrides can produce viable conditions for life.
What such people tend to ignore is the years of imposition of IMF/WorldBank/US policies on nations like India that caused India to embrace liberalisation & free trade, and in effect become as competitive, if not more, than many American companies.
All over the world, labour moves where the jobs are. Not in the US. Here, everyone wants a job in South Milwaukee or East Dallas or wherever they are ensconced.
You do not comment on the part of my message - that the USSR was likely not the only nation with doomsday plans.
Cheers
This can potentially further clog the microwave/radio spectrum, depending on the range of these sensors. Also, unless some standard exists/is applied, competing manufacturers could select different protocols, leading to a babel of messages, and more traffic jams rather than less
It could have some good use as an anti-theft device.
No comments on the Orwellian overtones of the original post
It is hard to tell whether one is an alarmist or a Cassandra until after the fact. I'm sure Cassandra was considered an alarmist before the Trojan incident, pun unintended
1994-, Professor of Law and Legal History, Columbia Law School.(current)
1987-94, Associate Professor of Law, Columbia Law School.
1986-87, Law Clerk to Justice Thurgood Marshall, United States Supreme Court.
1985-86, Law Clerk to Judge Edward Weinfeld, United States District Court, Southern District of New York.
1984, Associate, Cravath Swaine & Moore, New York.
1983, IBM Corporation, Armonk, New York, Associate Corporation Counsel
1979-84, IBM Corporation, San Jose, California, Programmer/Analyst, Programming Language Research & Development
Selected Publications
Anarchism Triumphant: Free Software and the Death of Copyright, First Monday (August, 1999)
The Invisible Barbecue, 97 Colum. L. Rev. 945 (1997).
Jewishness and the American Constitutional Tradition: The Cases of Brandeis and Frankfurter (Book Review), 89 Colum. L. Rev. 959 (1989).
Taking the Fifth: Reconsidering the History of the Privilege Against Self-Incrimination, 92 Mich. L. Rev. 1086 (1994).
Please cite references - dont believe everything you read in pulp novels. Then again, don't assume that the USSR had exclusive rights on bio-warfare.
The tendency of the human race to both improve it's awareness of the world while at the same time endangering itself has been the cause of grief and happiness.
This though, seems to be of little benefit to anyone, unless it guarantees a cure for the common cold!
Fin de Siecle feelings after the millenium? Methinks the malaise spreads too far
The semantic web? or would it be a form of segregation? And how would google, or a new engine distinguish between neighborhoods. Also, how would you gentrify a neighborhood?
Enough branding studies have shown that it's very very hard to knock someone off their post once they seize a certain mindshare - e.g. Coke, Windows(grin), and now Google.
So, irrespective of the technical competence, or otherwise of Google, it is going to be around and the leader, for a long time to come. P.S. My favorite missing google feature: search for bittorrent files
Don't forget, India has a GDP bigger than that of Australia, and a growth rate of 6-7%
So, I would assume, Google. Also factor in the demand factor for the shares, expectation of being the next Netscape, etc.,
Will be interesting to see how Opera performs as a public company
The leading IT outsourcers in India include Infosys - the best, Wipro, TCS and Cognizant-check them out using google
Further, the call center workers use pseudonyms only because of the insular, cretinous American customers they service who think everyone should be named Bill, Harry or Jack