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Hrmm.. vote with your feet eh? Is the Fockers really such a statement of free will.. My post was intended to point out that the guy who hosted the site knew what he got himself into, he ain't a hero, he just wasn't very pragmatic about his intentions. Doing something against the law can be a good thing, if the law is bad (gee who said that...) but in the case of MPAA/Copyright bla bla, people don't get killed, it ain't a DUI or speeding offense in that sense either, I agree..
Look, stealing a movie is wrong. Simple. The guy who made the movie has a right to decide what happens with his work, that is common sense. If you don't agree with him, then tell him. If the law gets in your way, tell the lawmaker. If all the geekz downloading movies would all send a letter to congress, politics would see a voter issue and it might become an agenda issue for pork-barrel and logrolling politics (i'm not going to link those terms , just wikipedia em...)...
If you all expect John Doe to respect your rights then grant him the same. If you don't agree with the rights at hand then do something about it. I personally agree with the threads here that mention the greed and free-rider syndrome at play. People just want to grab for free. This is no different that looting during a riot, albeit no blood gets let.
Now, get mad, get hyped and go write that letter, ok?
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Yes they are sheep.. that is the problem. And the moneyman is happy to keep people as sheep. However, being cynical and laconic about it won't change it anymore than ripping movies. Your civic responsabilities are your own, but they are exactly that, responsabilities. I can only hope that by agitating people into action that something may change, in that sense I guess marxist analysis is correct, the agitator will mobilize the proletariat...
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Look, I agree to your standpoint, the point is that the LAW doesn't..
My point is that if you blatently break the law, it's not your sound reasoning or argumentation that will change anything.
You can take your own responsability and either refuse to buy a product you don't like but simply copying it doesn't make you right.
I am against the MPAA, but I don't consume their products, I don't steal them either. Just like I don't have an illegal copy of windows on my personal computer. I do, however, partake in activism to get politics to change their views in the hope of changing the law.
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I really would like to know how torrents break the law.
"guns don't kill, people do..."
You suggest the site's maintainer didn't mean to provide access to illegal content? C'mon, grow up.. 99% of his traffic was what?
If your logic is sound then why aren't all torrent hosting sites taken down? agha... because they don't all allow torrents of copyright protected content.. they maintain their sites and assure that the legal torrents get a spot..
Well gee the "philosophy" can be debated till grow gills...
The practice shows that Open Source is thriving in vibrant and "free" economies and that Socialist/Communist countries are repressive.(cuba, Soviet Union, china, North -nuclear- Korea, Albania etc...)
I am not against marxist analysis per-se but marxism as a politic is very unsound. Where are the safeguards to defend the citizen from repression? Nowhere.... That is why a Liberal State of Law has written, codified and reviewed laws. Remember.. Trias politica....
I love Open Source, I hate communists.
They get them started young...
They merchandise it too!!!
links thanks to a dutch buddy of mine that pissed in his pants reading this thread...
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He ain't a jerk, he's an idiot. You KNOW that it's not allowed, regardless of your opinion, and you continue to do it? C'mon, grow up! It's not a speeding ticket or a parking fine, it's copyright violation.
I am not saying I agree with the current state of the law but it IS the law. Don't F8&^k with it unless you are prepared for the consequences. I hate the MPAA as much as you do. I don't watch hollywood flicks, I watch alternative and european films. Of course without the artistic circuit having a theatre in most dodgy american towns I understand that many of you don't have choice of content. That sucks.
There is no excuse to have a site up with something that breaks a law that many are willing to enforce, doing so is asking for trouble, crying about it later is simply lame. Using the site and then moaning about it's dissapearence is almost as lame. If you don;t like the law, go into politics, write a congressman/woman.. that is the legal way to go about it.
ROFL!!!
Ok dutchies, you know they were singing that tune after the game so please correct my loose translation after the above insight:
translationDi Dick di di da da di dick dick dick diiiiiiick!!
OMFG ROFL!!!
Where is all this bla bla about communism coming from? Communism is crap, had the GPL been written in the Soviet Union, the first 15 pages would be a dedication to Marxism-Leninism and then another 5 pages dedicating everything to the Politburo... Communism has NOTHING to do with the fact that you can have my source code and make changes jsut as long as you stick to the rules!! Why heck, you think North Korea would give source code and the right to changes things? Socialist/Communist software would never be allowed to deviate from the "Official Peoples Party" standard!!
Open Source is collaborative work and is all about FREEDOM!! Communism/Socialism knows no freedom! Neither does Laisser-Faire Liberalism, Fascism or Corporatism. Capitalism as an economic model doesn't per-se stop freedom but it does engender economies of scale which can lead to abusive monopolies, which in turn, can hinder freedom.
Investing money... as if the patent office needs more of it.. perhaps a more general rule could determine the rights of creators.. something like copyright..
Which sorta makes you wonder about a correlation ebtween that fact and the current state of corporate america...
NFI, I am a social scientist myself, but human sciences and enginering jsut ain't the same thing. H&P were engineers, no way in hell my background would put me in a position to drive that kind of R&D based creative enterprise. It's not simply about good bla bla and corporate governance, you gotta see the products and believe in them. Not that Job's is so great but at least he "geeks out" when demo'ing his products, I wonder what products Carly demo'd...
I believe that Lowendmac.com has some links and otherwise this thread will probably be spammed by links. Failing that leave me a message I think I have some os 6 disks in the corner with my SE
With the advent of comemrcial space why don't they auction Hubble to the highest bidder? Most of the space cowboys don't care much for risk, just look at Burt Rutan, he does the unthinkable...
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Maybe so but in the EU this consitutes a crime and is punishable with serious jail time.
Yeah!! beer will keep those rebel scum in line..
Hrmm.. vote with your feet eh? Is the Fockers really such a statement of free will.. My post was intended to point out that the guy who hosted the site knew what he got himself into, he ain't a hero, he just wasn't very pragmatic about his intentions. Doing something against the law can be a good thing, if the law is bad (gee who said that...) but in the case of MPAA/Copyright bla bla, people don't get killed, it ain't a DUI or speeding offense in that sense either, I agree..
Look, stealing a movie is wrong. Simple. The guy who made the movie has a right to decide what happens with his work, that is common sense. If you don't agree with him, then tell him. If the law gets in your way, tell the lawmaker. If all the geekz downloading movies would all send a letter to congress, politics would see a voter issue and it might become an agenda issue for pork-barrel and logrolling politics (i'm not going to link those terms , just wikipedia em...)...
If you all expect John Doe to respect your rights then grant him the same. If you don't agree with the rights at hand then do something about it. I personally agree with the threads here that mention the greed and free-rider syndrome at play. People just want to grab for free. This is no different that looting during a riot, albeit no blood gets let.
Now, get mad, get hyped and go write that letter, ok?
Yes they are sheep.. that is the problem. And the moneyman is happy to keep people as sheep. However, being cynical and laconic about it won't change it anymore than ripping movies. Your civic responsabilities are your own, but they are exactly that, responsabilities. I can only hope that by agitating people into action that something may change, in that sense I guess marxist analysis is correct, the agitator will mobilize the proletariat...
Look, I agree to your standpoint, the point is that the LAW doesn't ..
My point is that if you blatently break the law, it's not your sound reasoning or argumentation that will change anything.
You can take your own responsability and either refuse to buy a product you don't like but simply copying it doesn't make you right.
I am against the MPAA, but I don't consume their products, I don't steal them either. Just like I don't have an illegal copy of windows on my personal computer. I do, however, partake in activism to get politics to change their views in the hope of changing the law.
"guns don't kill, people do..."
You suggest the site's maintainer didn't mean to provide access to illegal content? C'mon, grow up.. 99% of his traffic was what?
If your logic is sound then why aren't all torrent hosting sites taken down? agha... because they don't all allow torrents of copyright protected content.. they maintain their sites and assure that the legal torrents get a spot..
Well gee the "philosophy" can be debated till grow gills... The practice shows that Open Source is thriving in vibrant and "free" economies and that Socialist/Communist countries are repressive.(cuba, Soviet Union, china, North -nuclear- Korea, Albania etc...) I am not against marxist analysis per-se but marxism as a politic is very unsound. Where are the safeguards to defend the citizen from repression? Nowhere.... That is why a Liberal State of Law has written, codified and reviewed laws. Remember.. Trias politica.... I love Open Source, I hate communists.
They get them started young...
They merchandise it too!!!
links thanks to a dutch buddy of mine that pissed in his pants reading this thread...
He ain't a jerk, he's an idiot. You KNOW that it's not allowed, regardless of your opinion, and you continue to do it? C'mon, grow up! It's not a speeding ticket or a parking fine, it's copyright violation.
I am not saying I agree with the current state of the law but it IS the law. Don't F8&^k with it unless you are prepared for the consequences. I hate the MPAA as much as you do. I don't watch hollywood flicks, I watch alternative and european films. Of course without the artistic circuit having a theatre in most dodgy american towns I understand that many of you don't have choice of content. That sucks.
There is no excuse to have a site up with something that breaks a law that many are willing to enforce, doing so is asking for trouble, crying about it later is simply lame. Using the site and then moaning about it's dissapearence is almost as lame. If you don;t like the law, go into politics, write a congressman/woman.. that is the legal way to go about it.
I thought that bar in The Hague was a bit.. funny....
ROFL!!! Ok dutchies, you know they were singing that tune after the game so please correct my loose translation after the above insight: translation Di Dick di di da da di dick dick dick diiiiiiick!! OMFG ROFL!!!
Where is all this bla bla about communism coming from? Communism is crap, had the GPL been written in the Soviet Union, the first 15 pages would be a dedication to Marxism-Leninism and then another 5 pages dedicating everything to the Politburo... Communism has NOTHING to do with the fact that you can have my source code and make changes jsut as long as you stick to the rules!! Why heck, you think North Korea would give source code and the right to changes things? Socialist/Communist software would never be allowed to deviate from the "Official Peoples Party" standard!! Open Source is collaborative work and is all about FREEDOM!! Communism/Socialism knows no freedom! Neither does Laisser-Faire Liberalism, Fascism or Corporatism. Capitalism as an economic model doesn't per-se stop freedom but it does engender economies of scale which can lead to abusive monopolies, which in turn, can hinder freedom.
What does GPl have to do with communism?
Okay.. I figured it could've been the "ode to cheese" or the like but understand now it may the Purple Haze Rumba... ;)
ROFL!!!
Investing money... as if the patent office needs more of it.. perhaps a more general rule could determine the rights of creators.. something like copyright..
something I picked up in a dutch pub after a footbaal game"
la luhl ala luh lhuluh la la laaaa!!
God bless them cheeseheads! Lets all wear wooden clogs and chant stranges incantaions in recognition of their greatness!
Certainly you have read the documentation and noted their standpoint on compliance. It's a question of choice and that's all yours..
Good point. I don't have an MBA so I cannot judge that, IWMUIC (I would mod up if I could)
Which sorta makes you wonder about a correlation ebtween that fact and the current state of corporate america...
NFI, I am a social scientist myself, but human sciences and enginering jsut ain't the same thing. H&P were engineers, no way in hell my background would put me in a position to drive that kind of R&D based creative enterprise. It's not simply about good bla bla and corporate governance, you gotta see the products and believe in them. Not that Job's is so great but at least he "geeks out" when demo'ing his products, I wonder what products Carly demo'd...
Don't count on it.. everyone's money is on the bean counter..
http://www.hp.com/hpinfo/newsroom/press/2005/05020 9a.htm
yeah, get a mac
I believe that Lowendmac.com has some links and otherwise this thread will probably be spammed by links. Failing that leave me a message I think I have some os 6 disks in the corner with my SE
With the advent of comemrcial space why don't they auction Hubble to the highest bidder? Most of the space cowboys don't care much for risk, just look at Burt Rutan, he does the unthinkable...