Oh come on guys, this isn't going to be a distro war thread right?
With all current distro's it's doable to get everything working. You do, however, need to read the right stuff. So it's probably more about knowing where to get your info than about being literate.
Those of us who farted around with it back in 94-95 who didn't have a BS in CS mostly gave up and gave it another test drive in 1998-1999 and found it to be much better. By 2001 it was already a relative breeze, nowadays it is nearly trivial by comparison. nearly all the major distro's have a nice installer which only deals with terminology you probably already know.
And if all else fails just grab a livecd for the love of Linus...
there may be snakes in garden but thank god there's a Python...
When talking about freedom and equality I guess it's also safe to ignore the rights of women, minorities and people with physical disabilities. Because all of them were considered inferior a century ago.
Considering that I reference and allude to a Goethe quote which roughly translates as :
he who choses to live day to day in ignorance of over two thousand years of human thought, choses to wander around in darkness
I don't see how I have somehow disenfranchised minorities and women. Clearly you missed my point. Although you may actually imply that the blogosphere is responsible for equality and civil liberties? Hrmm.. considering that the rise of the blogosphere has coincided closely with the radicalisation of the american neo-conservative right... well whatever.. Maybe I'll take the lead of a frequent slashdotter in this regard:
it's all about the goat...
"I bought your Linux at Barnes & Noble. Why doesn't it work?"
"Last week I called and you told me how to install your Linux. Why doesn't my Word Perfect CD work any more?"
"The other day you made me install something called StarOffice. I think that messed up my son's Doom 3 CD. It used to work before we installed your Linux."
That'll be fantastic.
It would be fantastic!
You shouldn't buy linux from Barnes and Noble, you should download Fedora Core or grow your own Gentoo!!
And you shouldn't be using word perfect anyway! AbiWord and OpenOffice are superior!
Your son really shouldn't be playing violent games, get him a bike or a soccer ball! Sports are healthy for the young lad!
Really he's right. Unfortunately as we have seen over the years society has changed and the "fast-food" culture has now hit our intellects. I guess it is just time to recognize that the "true" western civilization is on the decline, just like Rome we fell asleep when we got bored..
The Enlightenment is over, the Renaissance is forgotten and millions of people live day to day in the darkness of oblivion. Oblivious to the great works and thoughts of millions of humans before them. Goethe would have cursed them.
Then again, who cares right? We can blog ourselves silly on the meaning of capitalism and Open Source. In the meantime the French Revolution is over and the values of Liberty and equality are all but forgotten in what seems to be a dream within a dream. So ignore human rights in the rest of the world cuz your gonna lose your own. Unless of course Kant becomes the next hype..
I guess the only thing I can say about this all is that the sleeper in the valey is not sleeping..
Le dormeur du val ne dort pas, il est mort et son corps et rigide et froid..
You do not have a God-given right to free content provided at the expense of the work of others
Dude, how about/. ? That's free ain't it? Anyway,I disagree, I, and many many others agree that information should be free but then again.. we may all be wrong, you may be right.. but homey don't play that...
Ok #1, child abuse and pornography should be stopped. We all agree on that. However, draconian measures on a part of the government may not be the best solution. If the Governement feels that ISP's are the place to stop it then perhaps the government should maintain a "blacklist" of content providers and then simply interface that into the dns system, that way it is possible for an ISP to comply, they could simply cache the dns responses and porn abusers will get a "page censured" placeholder rather that what they where looking for. Of course this does imply... the "c" word... censurship and that hurts all of us.. Still, the internet community has forced it upon us, and now it is time to pay the price of freedom without limits.
Ubuntu? livecd?It borks on my Ibook... Haven't tried the install yet but I like Ubuntu on the X86 so I am hoping to get it to work on the Ibook...
Yes, Linux does have more of a hands on feel. Due to the above issue I am currently finking quite a bit to keep thatg linuxy feel to the ibook so I have konqueror for file browsing and the like.. finder just doesn't do it for me...
Your way around DRM in itunes is the most effective, contrary to many things said about hymn, I have found it a pain to keep playing escalation with all the "atom" markers and subsequently needing to re-clean files after an itunes update.. also had my account locked because of the session key thing.. arrghh!! Simply burn a cd and re-rip.. better yet just order the freakin cd! (okay that is easy for me to say cuz I like old music and the cd's are cheap..)
Yep, the kid made a mistake. He shouldn't have gotten confused by Apple's Open Source PsychoBabble.. Don't get me wrong, I love my mac, worship the product, though, not the company. Now he can learn from his mistake and download Linux.
Actually no flame intended but, I merely outline the state of affairs. In terms of what information the regime would use to make a judgement I fear that the arabs would get the blame. The fact that this reaction, as I outlined, ignores the terrorist qualifications of Basque communists and Northern Ireland gangs, heck, even Corsican activists, may seem injuring and insulting is not my doing. However, the current level of activity in the world sort of points the finger in one direction. Not that I think any terrorist would use a nuke, but then that was my original argumentation..
Furthermore, I have in other posts, debunked the idea that terrorists would have a delivery method so
incoming nuke(s) to detonate
sorta misses the point, any terorist nuke would be a suicide bomber and those are exclusivly... yep, arab.
I sleep comfortably, thank you, no I don't underestimate anyone or anything (at least I assume) but it would seem that the threat outlined in this discussion is unlikely and would result in a tragic megadeath. As for any countries attacking a major alliance party, that would be suicide. Nukes work fine when in the hands of a functioning state, we all understand MAD
As for your arguments about nuclear exchanges I suggest you read an old but excellent disertation on possible international exchange scenarios, it's a great read, and I am sure you will love the acronym proliferation.
Third World War
by bringing out the largely incompatible Fedora distro
Hrrmm.. In my immediate surroundings I participated in migrating:
2x RedHat 8.0 servers
3x RedHat 9.0 servers
2x RedHat 9.0 Laptops
4x RedHat 9.0 Desktops
no probs
caveat We migrated the 8.0 boxes first to 9.0 and tested for a while then moved them to core 1.
All subsequent upgrades through to core 3 now complete. Minor issues in the versions of daemons but they were legacy issues that we would have needed to resolve regardless of the distro.
I don't understand the fuss, I welcome the move on RedHat's part but I have no problems with them. I have received a demo license for Enterprise but found it not worth the investment at this point in time. Desktop sucks though.. really you should be running Fedora Core on your desktop. The fedora community has been a good source of support and the lists (especially in the early days) were great. I thank all members of the community for working together to resolve the issues we had, albeit mostly in cases of exotic hardware. Still don't have pcmcia working on one of the laptops but hey, I replaced that with a Ibook.. has no pcmcia anyway, gee because I don't need it...
LOL the point being exactly that at that point no-one is being rational!! Hence, a nuke would jsut as useless to the terrorist as the reataliation would be for the US.. hence, no nukes.
I don't think anyone would be left would be saying that.
I think 60 seconds after detonation the US would be in snapcount and about 33 minutes after that 45 MIRV's would do to the arabs what I just did to my neighbours windows XP system...
Terroist: You make big bomb for Mullah Hashish!
Scientist: Sure thing buddy.. lets see what we got here...
Scientist pulls a wookie out of his sleeve...
wait a minute here!!! this is ridiculous!!
Presentators voice: Yep...
actually in Europe (home of obese taxes) the gov'ts have looked into taxing ebay revenue and the like. Even if you earn money through adsense from google, the tax man knows whats up..
Actually the district attorney will probably end up dragging McBride and his CFO in his office asking what the heck the monkey business is about. After reading above post I expect that McBride will pull a monkey out of his sleeve..
Whilst I am not purporting to give legal advice, common sense dictates that if you own SCO stock, you should be on the horn to your lawyer jsut about.... now...
Ok re-wording..
In the EU, the legal systems constituting the EU have laws that make threatening of politicians punishable and yes, usually with jail time.
So, interpreting the offence as a direct threat to a politician,
Also, blackmail is a threat and threatening people is a general offense, the sanction and treatement hereof, in small european countries with codified legal systems it will typically look like this:
http://www.openbaarministerie.nl/beleid/beleidsreg el.php?vv=0&tid=3&rid=18
IANAL either but that doesn't eman you don't know the law.. actually many legal systems assume you do:
And this one I can link for you in the Netherlands and Belgium:
http://www.e-regering.be/argumenten/argument3.htm
http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wet
I thought the article mentioned Denmark.. The Dutch government (cabinet/ministers) wanted the patents (eh.. Mr. EU Patent, Bolkestein is Dutch)it was the left wing opposition in parlement that actually said "whoa boy"... So maybe evil Bill did call the Dutch aswell... (or was it asswell? )
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Oh come on guys, this isn't going to be a distro war thread right?
With all current distro's it's doable to get everything working. You do, however, need to read the right stuff. So it's probably more about knowing where to get your info than about being literate.
Those of us who farted around with it back in 94-95 who didn't have a BS in CS mostly gave up and gave it another test drive in 1998-1999 and found it to be much better. By 2001 it was already a relative breeze, nowadays it is nearly trivial by comparison. nearly all the major distro's have a nice installer which only deals with terminology you probably already know.
And if all else fails just grab a livecd for the love of Linus...
there may be snakes in garden but thank god there's a Python...
Considering that I reference and allude to a Goethe quote which roughly translates as : he who choses to live day to day in ignorance of over two thousand years of human thought, choses to wander around in darkness I don't see how I have somehow disenfranchised minorities and women. Clearly you missed my point. Although you may actually imply that the blogosphere is responsible for equality and civil liberties? Hrmm.. considering that the rise of the blogosphere has coincided closely with the radicalisation of the american neo-conservative right... well whatever.. Maybe I'll take the lead of a frequent slashdotter in this regard: it's all about the goat...
This is correct. I worked hard so I didn't have to..
Give a bum fifty bucks and he'll be happy to be president and ceo of your company...
after bum fights it's the bumfraudsters!
Pereat tristitia, pereant osores,
Pereat diabolus,
Quivis antiburchius
Atque irrisores !
It would be fantastic!
You shouldn't buy linux from Barnes and Noble, you should download Fedora Core or grow your own Gentoo!!
And you shouldn't be using word perfect anyway! AbiWord and OpenOffice are superior!
Your son really shouldn't be playing violent games, get him a bike or a soccer ball! Sports are healthy for the young lad!
Really, the world could be great...
ROFL!!
Really he's right. Unfortunately as we have seen over the years society has changed and the "fast-food" culture has now hit our intellects. I guess it is just time to recognize that the "true" western civilization is on the decline, just like Rome we fell asleep when we got bored..
The Enlightenment is over, the Renaissance is forgotten and millions of people live day to day in the darkness of oblivion. Oblivious to the great works and thoughts of millions of humans before them. Goethe would have cursed them.
Then again, who cares right? We can blog ourselves silly on the meaning of capitalism and Open Source. In the meantime the French Revolution is over and the values of Liberty and equality are all but forgotten in what seems to be a dream within a dream. So ignore human rights in the rest of the world cuz your gonna lose your own. Unless of course Kant becomes the next hype..
I guess the only thing I can say about this all is that the sleeper in the valey is not sleeping..
Le dormeur du val ne dort pas, il est mort et son corps et rigide et froid..
Ack ack! We come in peace!!! Ack Ack!!
Dude, how about
ROFL!! Its a market, they make printers, their printers s&ck the egg out of a chicken, so buy a different product... simple...
Ok #1, child abuse and pornography should be stopped. We all agree on that. However, draconian measures on a part of the government may not be the best solution. If the Governement feels that ISP's are the place to stop it then perhaps the government should maintain a "blacklist" of content providers and then simply interface that into the dns system, that way it is possible for an ISP to comply, they could simply cache the dns responses and porn abusers will get a "page censured" placeholder rather that what they where looking for. Of course this does imply... the "c" word... censurship and that hurts all of us.. Still, the internet community has forced it upon us, and now it is time to pay the price of freedom without limits.
Ubuntu? livecd?It borks on my Ibook... Haven't tried the install yet but I like Ubuntu on the X86 so I am hoping to get it to work on the Ibook...
Yes, Linux does have more of a hands on feel. Due to the above issue I am currently finking quite a bit to keep thatg linuxy feel to the ibook so I have konqueror for file browsing and the like.. finder just doesn't do it for me... Your way around DRM in itunes is the most effective, contrary to many things said about hymn, I have found it a pain to keep playing escalation with all the "atom" markers and subsequently needing to re-clean files after an itunes update.. also had my account locked because of the session key thing.. arrghh!! Simply burn a cd and re-rip.. better yet just order the freakin cd! (okay that is easy for me to say cuz I like old music and the cd's are cheap..)
Yep, the kid made a mistake. He shouldn't have gotten confused by Apple's Open Source PsychoBabble.. Don't get me wrong, I love my mac, worship the product, though, not the company. Now he can learn from his mistake and download Linux.
Furthermore, I have in other posts, debunked the idea that terrorists would have a delivery method so sorta misses the point, any terorist nuke would be a suicide bomber and those are exclusivly... yep, arab.
I sleep comfortably, thank you, no I don't underestimate anyone or anything (at least I assume) but it would seem that the threat outlined in this discussion is unlikely and would result in a tragic megadeath. As for any countries attacking a major alliance party, that would be suicide. Nukes work fine when in the hands of a functioning state, we all understand MAD As for your arguments about nuclear exchanges I suggest you read an old but excellent disertation on possible international exchange scenarios, it's a great read, and I am sure you will love the acronym proliferation. Third World War
Hrrmm.. In my immediate surroundings I participated in migrating:
2x RedHat 8.0 servers
3x RedHat 9.0 servers
2x RedHat 9.0 Laptops
4x RedHat 9.0 Desktops
no probs
caveat
We migrated the 8.0 boxes first to 9.0 and tested for a while then moved them to core 1
All subsequent upgrades through to core 3 now complete. Minor issues in the versions of daemons but they were legacy issues that we would have needed to resolve regardless of the distro.
I don't understand the fuss, I welcome the move on RedHat's part but I have no problems with them. I have received a demo license for Enterprise but found it not worth the investment at this point in time. Desktop sucks though.. really you should be running Fedora Core on your desktop. The fedora community has been a good source of support and the lists (especially in the early days) were great. I thank all members of the community for working together to resolve the issues we had, albeit mostly in cases of exotic hardware. Still don't have pcmcia working on one of the laptops but hey, I replaced that with a Ibook.. has no pcmcia anyway, gee because I don't need it...
LOL the point being exactly that at that point no-one is being rational!! Hence, a nuke would jsut as useless to the terrorist as the reataliation would be for the US.. hence, no nukes.
I don't think anyone would be left would be saying that.
I think 60 seconds after detonation the US would be in snapcount and about 33 minutes after that 45 MIRV's would do to the arabs what I just did to my neighbours windows XP system...
Terroist: You make big bomb for Mullah Hashish!
Scientist: Sure thing buddy.. lets see what we got here...
Scientist pulls a wookie out of his sleeve...
wait a minute here!!! this is ridiculous!! Presentators voice: Yep...
actually in Europe (home of obese taxes) the gov'ts have looked into taxing ebay revenue and the like. Even if you earn money through adsense from google, the tax man knows whats up..
Actually the district attorney will probably end up dragging McBride and his CFO in his office asking what the heck the monkey business is about. After reading above post I expect that McBride will pull a monkey out of his sleeve ..
Whilst I am not purporting to give legal advice, common sense dictates that if you own SCO stock, you should be on the horn to your lawyer jsut about.... now...
dude, my head... I'm so freakin' wasted
-supahfly-
Yep.. remember the first firebird builds...
. ht ml
http://www.mozilla.org/press/mozilla-2004-02-09
Ok re-wording.. In the EU, the legal systems constituting the EU have laws that make threatening of politicians punishable and yes, usually with jail time.g el.php?vv=0&tid=3&rid=18
So, interpreting the offence as a direct threat to a politician,
Also, blackmail is a threat and threatening people is a general offense, the sanction and treatement hereof, in small european countries with codified legal systems it will typically look like this:
http://www.openbaarministerie.nl/beleid/beleidsre
IANAL either but that doesn't eman you don't know the law.. actually many legal systems assume you do:
And this one I can link for you in the Netherlands and Belgium:
http://www.e-regering.be/argumenten/argument3.htm
http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wet
I thought the article mentioned Denmark.. The Dutch government (cabinet /ministers) wanted the patents (eh.. Mr. EU Patent, Bolkestein is Dutch)it was the left wing opposition in parlement that actually said "whoa boy"... So maybe evil Bill did call the Dutch aswell... (or was it asswell? )
Blackmail: legitimate sales method, most effective in government Source: Microsoft Dictionary