That's not what I meant. I meant what it says - withdrawing support means the end of the industry but government help via input at the cost of the taxpayer keeps it running. Sugar and Steel have been propped up for decades - hence fat kids and most manufacturing moving offshore.
The short story is that government assisted monopolies and cartels soon can not compete with the market in general and lead to unintended consequences since it drives up the price for dependant industries.
Industries protected by tarriffs no longer have a need to compete so no longer have a need to innovate etc and no longer have a need to be well managed so become sinecures - look at US steel companies for an example. Only the small specialist companies with niches the big players were not interested in have avoided decline.
with different environmental laws, different social welfare requirements, different education levels
It's a nice excuse until a German company comes alone with 50% higher costs per worker and kicks your arse because they are four times more productive (example from vehicle assembly).
It was driven by groups representing medical specialists lobbying the Liberal Party and was actually against the wishes of the AMA. The person who made the decision to cut training numbers was the Minister of Health, Dr Michael Wooldridge (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Wooldridge). A bit of a "character". He got into a little bit of trouble when he redirected the funding for rural specialists into funding for a building that was to be his new workplace after he left politics and the Prime Minister (John Howard) had to step in to reverse the situation, so in the end there was nothing for him to do jail time for. He's been in up to his neck in dodgy investment schemes, may soon be banned from managing companies (the penalty hearing will begin early next year (http://www.asic.gov.au/asic/asic.nsf/byheadline/13-339MR+Prime+Trust+directors+found+to+have+breached+duties?openDocument)) and recently sold his services to the anti-windmill lobby. Successive health ministers did not revert the training numbers back up to the earlier level until a change of government so Australia was left with a shortage of doctors that will take years to make up.
So then you have a very large number of industries on life support. Not a good way to swing that axe. A more delicate approach is probably much better. You also seem to have missed that those tariffs I mentioned ended up costing money.
The unintended consequences of such a thing on Sugar and Steel completely fucked up both industries, manufacturing, and the health of your countries children. It's an axe to be wielded with care. Overprotection of an industry can lead to putting it on permanent life support, a slow decline, and malign effects on industries that depend upon them. In case you haven't heard of these examples before, manufacturing moved to where steel was cheaper and expensive corn syrup ended up being cheaper that cane sugar. There's other things that can go wrong with your suggested approach. Byzantium gave it a try up until 1204AD.
It isn't being used for that in many cases, though
Australia adopted the idea as well, just like many other stupid ideas from the USA and not many good ones. Initially is was to fill the shortfall of doctors after we'd cut the numbers of doctors we were training (a lobby group thought scarcity would be a good way to drive up doctors incomes). Now it's even being used to employ cleaners as "skilled workers" that are supposed to be unavailable in the country. The reality is that mining companies and similar are just importing cheaper employees via such a rort whether there are people available to do the job or not. There are certainly large numbers of unemployed people who could do such a job in the areas where cleaners and other nonskilled or semi-skilled staff are employed on indentured servitude visas.
It's a bargaining chip in wage negotiations. "Don't ask for too much or we'll replace you with someone from overseas" is the implied argument.
If it was really about shortage then it would have gone away when layoffs added large numbers of experienced and skilled people to the pool of available employees.
When that happens you get a new constitution which the shooters like and the rest of the population gets well and truly fucked over. You don't get to keep the old one. If you are "lucky" you get a Napoleon, less lucky and you get a Stalin - Washington got in because there was no need for a sea of blood to force the previous rulers to let go so is not an option no matter how lucky you are.
How about trawling through the communications of heads of other intelligence agencies so they can be thrown out with the utter bullshit of "moral turpitude" as part of an intelligence turf war? We've already seen it go that far.
Personally I think you guys need an electoral system as good as is implemented by people from the USA that help run elections in developing countries. You already have the expertise. You already know what happened in Florida in 2000 was a joke laughed at internationally long before there was a result (so I'm not suggesting it was rigged - there were a dozen or more fuckups before getting anywhere near that suggestion). You already know that voting on a Tuesday and other sillyness is a barrier to a decent turnout. If more people took part in the political process it would cease being just a game for established players.
3. Communicate with a foreign terrorist. 4. Probably anybody who communicates with #3, to who knows how many degrees of separation.
Well that could nicely include the entire Reagan era Republican Party after North was caught selling weapons to Hezbolla less than a year after they had blown up more than one hundred US Marines. Also does funding the IRA fit the bill? There's a few in politics that were mixed up with that.
Is this a "in Soviet Russia" thing? If so, at some times it would have been entirely believable even if there was no loss of containment but just a wish to get rid of inconvenient witnesses to something.
A chilling bit of fantasy but I'm sure something more realistic from a better writer would have been more interesting (and less easily dismissed as fantasy). Doctors with nukes FFS!
A researcher becomes infected and no one necessarily knows for 3 weeks
Or years in the case of someone I know that got tuberculosis in a lab. However she wasn't working directly with it and doctors could not recognise it until she was examined by a retired doctor who happened to have TB experience.
One example was an experimental rabbit eradication virus on an island 2km off the coast of Australia. It escaped to the mainland so instead of a systematic eradication of feral rabbits it was a normal epidemic. The survivors and descendants are now resistant to that virus and rabbit numbers have recovered.
A woman that was working in a lab that had a drug resistant strain of tuberculosis (among other things) was sick and undiagnosed for several years, until her doctor was absent and an older doctor came out of retirement to fill in. The older doctor recognised TB from back when he was first starting out. The victim was not supposed to be in contact with it, which is why TB was not suspected (or even mentioned to medical specialists), but it must not have been kept contained in the areas where it was supposed to be contained.
There's been a lot of research work on gigabit optical networking using LED lights yet we are calling this update of 1950s sensor light systems "smart".
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That's not what I meant. I meant what it says - withdrawing support means the end of the industry but government help via input at the cost of the taxpayer keeps it running. Sugar and Steel have been propped up for decades - hence fat kids and most manufacturing moving offshore.
The short story is that government assisted monopolies and cartels soon can not compete with the market in general and lead to unintended consequences since it drives up the price for dependant industries.
Industries protected by tarriffs no longer have a need to compete so no longer have a need to innovate etc and no longer have a need to be well managed so become sinecures - look at US steel companies for an example. Only the small specialist companies with niches the big players were not interested in have avoided decline.
It's a nice excuse until a German company comes alone with 50% higher costs per worker and kicks your arse because they are four times more productive (example from vehicle assembly).
It was driven by groups representing medical specialists lobbying the Liberal Party and was actually against the wishes of the AMA. The person who made the decision to cut training numbers was the Minister of Health, Dr Michael Wooldridge (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Wooldridge). A bit of a "character". He got into a little bit of trouble when he redirected the funding for rural specialists into funding for a building that was to be his new workplace after he left politics and the Prime Minister (John Howard) had to step in to reverse the situation, so in the end there was nothing for him to do jail time for. He's been in up to his neck in dodgy investment schemes, may soon be banned from managing companies (the penalty hearing will begin early next year (http://www.asic.gov.au/asic/asic.nsf/byheadline/13-339MR+Prime+Trust+directors+found+to+have+breached+duties?openDocument)) and recently sold his services to the anti-windmill lobby.
Successive health ministers did not revert the training numbers back up to the earlier level until a change of government so Australia was left with a shortage of doctors that will take years to make up.
So then you have a very large number of industries on life support. Not a good way to swing that axe. A more delicate approach is probably much better.
You also seem to have missed that those tariffs I mentioned ended up costing money.
The unintended consequences of such a thing on Sugar and Steel completely fucked up both industries, manufacturing, and the health of your countries children. It's an axe to be wielded with care. Overprotection of an industry can lead to putting it on permanent life support, a slow decline, and malign effects on industries that depend upon them.
In case you haven't heard of these examples before, manufacturing moved to where steel was cheaper and expensive corn syrup ended up being cheaper that cane sugar.
There's other things that can go wrong with your suggested approach. Byzantium gave it a try up until 1204AD.
Australia adopted the idea as well, just like many other stupid ideas from the USA and not many good ones. Initially is was to fill the shortfall of doctors after we'd cut the numbers of doctors we were training (a lobby group thought scarcity would be a good way to drive up doctors incomes). Now it's even being used to employ cleaners as "skilled workers" that are supposed to be unavailable in the country. The reality is that mining companies and similar are just importing cheaper employees via such a rort whether there are people available to do the job or not. There are certainly large numbers of unemployed people who could do such a job in the areas where cleaners and other nonskilled or semi-skilled staff are employed on indentured servitude visas.
It's a bargaining chip in wage negotiations. "Don't ask for too much or we'll replace you with someone from overseas" is the implied argument.
If it was really about shortage then it would have gone away when layoffs added large numbers of experienced and skilled people to the pool of available employees.
A lot back in the day via utterly stupid foreign policy, but in the long run a lot less than his father and probably ignorable today.
Funny how I was called a tinfoil hatter for talking about that place in the 1980s.
The world has moved on.
When that happens you get a new constitution which the shooters like and the rest of the population gets well and truly fucked over.
You don't get to keep the old one.
If you are "lucky" you get a Napoleon, less lucky and you get a Stalin - Washington got in because there was no need for a sea of blood to force the previous rulers to let go so is not an option no matter how lucky you are.
How about trawling through the communications of heads of other intelligence agencies so they can be thrown out with the utter bullshit of "moral turpitude" as part of an intelligence turf war? We've already seen it go that far.
Personally I think you guys need an electoral system as good as is implemented by people from the USA that help run elections in developing countries. You already have the expertise. You already know what happened in Florida in 2000 was a joke laughed at internationally long before there was a result (so I'm not suggesting it was rigged - there were a dozen or more fuckups before getting anywhere near that suggestion). You already know that voting on a Tuesday and other sillyness is a barrier to a decent turnout.
If more people took part in the political process it would cease being just a game for established players.
Well that could nicely include the entire Reagan era Republican Party after North was caught selling weapons to Hezbolla less than a year after they had blown up more than one hundred US Marines.
Also does funding the IRA fit the bill? There's a few in politics that were mixed up with that.
Funny how double standards go isn't it?
I have. You should as well. You will learn where the USA learned the waterboarding torture technique from.
Pinochet has left the building.
Is this a "in Soviet Russia" thing? If so, at some times it would have been entirely believable even if there was no loss of containment but just a wish to get rid of inconvenient witnesses to something.
Doctors with nukes FFS!
I agree, it was tidied up a bit and less silly.
Or years in the case of someone I know that got tuberculosis in a lab. However she wasn't working directly with it and doctors could not recognise it until she was examined by a retired doctor who happened to have TB experience.
One example was an experimental rabbit eradication virus on an island 2km off the coast of Australia. It escaped to the mainland so instead of a systematic eradication of feral rabbits it was a normal epidemic. The survivors and descendants are now resistant to that virus and rabbit numbers have recovered.
A woman that was working in a lab that had a drug resistant strain of tuberculosis (among other things) was sick and undiagnosed for several years, until her doctor was absent and an older doctor came out of retirement to fill in. The older doctor recognised TB from back when he was first starting out. The victim was not supposed to be in contact with it, which is why TB was not suspected (or even mentioned to medical specialists), but it must not have been kept contained in the areas where it was supposed to be contained.
You see your key feature in some old houses - light switch outside the door and the door only lockable from the outside.
There's been a lot of research work on gigabit optical networking using LED lights yet we are calling this update of 1950s sensor light systems "smart".
It was old news before this site started so that's probably why it hasn't been discussed.
Ah - that's the truly special level of stupidity I had not considered.