Now marketing plays a huge roles as more and more promotional techniques are needed to continuously improve the product refining it into what will become its final form.
I was with you up to this point. Marketing does nothing to improve the product. A more accurate rewrite of this section would be:
Now Marketing plays a huge role as more and more promotional techniques are needed to compensate for lack of genuine improvement and absence of any differention between mature products in the marketplace.
This is how we end up with "New Tide". Bullshit surpasses substance in importance.
You can decide which is which, but here is a hit- the US lost 3.3 Million jobs since Bush took office.
Nice try. Might also blame the domestic policy of the Soviet Premier for the "Departure of 26 million men from the workforce" in the USSR between 1941-1946.
Those links are wrong, sales nonsense, here are some links from the comp.dcom.xdsl FAQ. These links are from working groups and standards bodies who *determine* what the letters mean:
[2.3] Where are the xDSL standards? From International Telecommunication Union (ITU)
G.992.1 (G.dmt) standards information
G.992.2 (G.lite) standards information
From American National Standards Institute (ANSI)
ANSI TI.413-1998 ($175.00 US)
Asymmetric Digital Subscriber Line (ADSL) Metallic Interface
From Universal ADSL Working Group [site down]
G.lite standards information
This reminds me of the current MS TV commercial, I'm sure you've seen it. The geeky looking guy comes out of the "datacenter" which is an unmanned, unsecured, closet that opens into the main hall of the office - but the servers are in there, where anyone could walk in, and there is a tour going by, you don't know who, but its implied that they're all managers of some sort. The guy giving the tour says "tell us whats going on in IT" then whispers "be brief". The geek starts to go on about how "we've implemented DFS and shadow folders, and now users can recover their own lost documents", the camera pans and the crowd is starting to get a glazed look, geek continues "...it will save us hundreds of thousands of dollars...", camera pans again, they're all smiling, cut to a shot of geek reading to managers sitting indian-style on the floor in the hallway, he's holding up a page in a book for them to see, like a kindergarten teacher would, and saying "Automated system recovery..." and they all go "oooooh".
Now, I'm not sure how many documents they lose, that giving the users the capability to get them back themselves is going to save "hundreds of thousands of dollars", and I don't know what's so impressive about a system that crashes so often that it needs "automated system recovery", but the truly scary thing is that they're spending millinons of dollars to put this ad on during prime time TV on major networks, they must think they're getting a return on this investment. Honestly, is the world so fucked now that people are making NOS purchasing decisions based on this tripe?
I have no problem with not taxing a company that has no profit. I do think that correctly taxing a company will incourage more downward movement of revenue dollars. There will not be such a big reward for screwing the employees.
I think I follow your reasoning. You're saying that the taxes inspire investment in business/internal development, which has the side effect of improving conditions for employees or creating the need for more employees, thereby improving general working conditions. I'll buy that. Although taken to extreme, this results in lower aggregate stock profits, which affects pensions and 401K(or other retirement plans) adversely over long periods of time.
Moving personal income taxes to corperate taxes will eliminate a large portion of over head.
Not sure I completely agree with you yet, but I get your point. This brings me to my favorite argument: elimination of all state and federal income taxes, and replace them with a 20% federal and 5% state sales tax on everything. And with this I challenge you to take the thread further OT:)
Yeah, after poking around I found a few really good comments in this regard on the php builder site. Next time I've got a chance to play around with PHP I'll be looking at that stuff.
I was pretty clear that I could not care less what people think of the car I drive, should be obvious since my choice is relatively unpopular around here.
I don't like vans, mini or otherwise, so I don't drive one.
Judging by your AC post, use of profanity, and weak point, I'd say your just frustrated with having to ride back and forth to school in your mother's minivan and you're taking it out on me....
but tell me currently one far better system to program web-application with.
Coldfusion. $999 (or free - see Bluedragon) and you can do more in one line of code than damn near anything else. Performance for applications like shuttle launches and life support probably not as good as J2EE or PHP, but you can do more work per line of code in CF than anything. Having worked in C, Java, Perl, Python, and PHP, a bunch of BASICs, and others, I've not worked with anything else where you can do so much so quickly.
If you want totally free then use NewAtlanta's BlueDragon server here . Granted it's a generation behind CF MX but I know a fellow who put together a Linux + MySQL + BlueDragon site on an AMD box for under $500 with the only cost being the hardware.
I've installed the BlueDragon product and it works great. It doesn't support the cfreport tags though (nor do the non-free versions of BlueDragon) so not only is crystal not included, but integration with it isn't there even if you buy it. This was a problem for us since reporting was a big part of our app, and printing from browsers generally sucks. I haven't seen anything to indicate the situation with native PHP is any different, but I'm sure I'll be corrected soon enough.
Actually, I've put a different exhaust and a supercharger on mine because I was disappointed with the acceleration. It now goes 0-60 in about 7 seconds, but alas, it gets well under 10MPG. I'll stick up for your right to do the same....
All taxes contribute to the end price of products.
Agreed.
We get paid more to cover the taxes we pay.
Run that by anyone who has worked in any general labor trade, manufacutring, etc. over the past 20 years. This is certainly not the case.
If corperations were taxed and not people we would be paid less but effectively have the same spending power.
Not sure if that's true, but a better scenario would be if people were taxed and not corporations. In the latter case, lower income strata are not forced to purchase higher-priced products to subsidize the corporate tax burden, yet the middle-class continue bear the greatest tax burden.
What our current system does is support a whole load of societal free loaders known as personal tax accountants and a few hundred thousand IRS employees. Simple do the math.
That said, I don't blame the FBI's or CIA's failure on either Bush or Clinton. The FBI was more investigative than prevention, and the CIA never really fully adapted to the new post-USSR environment. But if anything, it was made clear in the post-9/11 reports that the CIA was depending less on human intelligence and more on electronic intelligence in part to avoid dealing with individuals or organizations of "questionable moral standing." Where do you think the blame of that should fall?
Well, something he did was convince school-age children that blowjobs were not sexual relations. But that won't have any long-term negative effects I'm sure....
Great comeback! Every time someone exposes Clinton for what he was (the worst president in the history of the United States, whose bad policy and incredibly poor decision-making will harm this country for decades) there is a minor revolt on/. Most notably, Clintons' non-response to the terrorist acts of the '90s and decimation of the American millitary make him the most singularly responsible individual for the attacks of September 11th, but I'm sure you think it had something to do with ballots in Florida...
The only problem is that pure capitalism does not work
No, actually it does work, its when you screw with it that it breaks down.
I agree that we are over taxed and it needs to be reduced. I do not believe that is what is contributing to the move offshore.
Personal income taxes may not be contributing, but Corporate taxes surely are. Since, in the end, all Corporate taxes and expenses are paid by consumers, Corporate income tax should be 0%. Try ECO101 for an explanation.
With SUV's, on the other hand, how many people who buy SUV's actually go offroad with them? Hardly any. They buy all that offroad power, and then drive on the damn road. Most of the SUVs you see in the parking lots are immaculately clean.
How many people who buy Porsche 911's actually drive 175MPH? None where I live. Just because a vehicle *can* do something doesn't mean you're legally obligated to do it. I drive a Ford Expedition because: (1)I used to drive an F-series pickup (which is what the Expedition/Navigator basically is underneath), (2) I had kids and would sooner stick a fork in my eye than drive a minivan, and (3) because I feel like it.
Question: Why do all the hippie tree-huggers bitch about people who have SUVs and don't drive offroad, yet bitch even LOUDER when someone DOES drive offroad that they're destroying the ecosystem and are accelerating the hand-of-god-coming-to-sweep-us-of-the-face-of-the- earth process?
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Is that you Egg Troll?
I was with you up to this point. Marketing does nothing to improve the product. A more accurate rewrite of this section would be:
This is how we end up with "New Tide". Bullshit surpasses substance in importance.
Nice try. Might also blame the domestic policy of the Soviet Premier for the "Departure of 26 million men from the workforce" in the USSR between 1941-1946.
[2.3] Where are the xDSL standards?
From International Telecommunication Union (ITU)
G.992.1 (G.dmt) standards information
G.992.2 (G.lite) standards information
From American National Standards Institute (ANSI)
ANSI TI.413-1998 ($175.00 US)
Asymmetric Digital Subscriber Line (ADSL) Metallic Interface
From Universal ADSL Working Group [site down]
G.lite standards information
From the Standards Committee T1-Telecommunications
Many xDSL standards
Relevant documents are from the T1E1.4 (Digital Subscriber Loop Access) working group
From European Telecommunications Standards Institute (ETSI)
ADSL, VDSL and SDSL standards
From the Internet Engineering Task Force (IETF)
ADSL MIB working group
You'll see that in all cases, the "S" stands for Symmetric.
Fiat? I thought Cops in England drove Jaguars?
You might also say that Windows 95 and Windows 98 are just as secure as Windows 2000.
Q: What do you get when you drop a piano down a mine shaft?
A: A flat miner.
This reminds me of the current MS TV commercial, I'm sure you've seen it. The geeky looking guy comes out of the "datacenter" which is an unmanned, unsecured, closet that opens into the main hall of the office - but the servers are in there, where anyone could walk in, and there is a tour going by, you don't know who, but its implied that they're all managers of some sort. The guy giving the tour says "tell us whats going on in IT" then whispers "be brief". The geek starts to go on about how "we've implemented DFS and shadow folders, and now users can recover their own lost documents", the camera pans and the crowd is starting to get a glazed look, geek continues "...it will save us hundreds of thousands of dollars...", camera pans again, they're all smiling, cut to a shot of geek reading to managers sitting indian-style on the floor in the hallway, he's holding up a page in a book for them to see, like a kindergarten teacher would, and saying "Automated system recovery..." and they all go "oooooh".
Now, I'm not sure how many documents they lose, that giving the users the capability to get them back themselves is going to save "hundreds of thousands of dollars", and I don't know what's so impressive about a system that crashes so often that it needs "automated system recovery", but the truly scary thing is that they're spending millinons of dollars to put this ad on during prime time TV on major networks, they must think they're getting a return on this investment. Honestly, is the world so fucked now that people are making NOS purchasing decisions based on this tripe?
In my car, I find that if I lay the seat all the way back, the female part doesn't eject the male part, regardless of the degree of vibration.
As far as 'holding in place' I recommend duct tape.
[french accent]....but you have a beautiful eyes........
I think I follow your reasoning. You're saying that the taxes inspire investment in business/internal development, which has the side effect of improving conditions for employees or creating the need for more employees, thereby improving general working conditions. I'll buy that. Although taken to extreme, this results in lower aggregate stock profits, which affects pensions and 401K(or other retirement plans) adversely over long periods of time.
Moving personal income taxes to corperate taxes will eliminate a large portion of over head.
Not sure I completely agree with you yet, but I get your point. This brings me to my favorite argument: elimination of all state and federal income taxes, and replace them with a 20% federal and 5% state sales tax on everything. And with this I challenge you to take the thread further OT :)
Yeah, after poking around I found a few really good comments in this regard on the php builder site. Next time I've got a chance to play around with PHP I'll be looking at that stuff.
I was pretty clear that I could not care less what people think of the car I drive, should be obvious since my choice is relatively unpopular around here.
I don't like vans, mini or otherwise, so I don't drive one.
Judging by your AC post, use of profanity, and weak point, I'd say your just frustrated with having to ride back and forth to school in your mother's minivan and you're taking it out on me....
Coldfusion. $999 (or free - see Bluedragon) and you can do more in one line of code than damn near anything else. Performance for applications like shuttle launches and life support probably not as good as J2EE or PHP, but you can do more work per line of code in CF than anything. Having worked in C, Java, Perl, Python, and PHP, a bunch of BASICs, and others, I've not worked with anything else where you can do so much so quickly.
I've installed the BlueDragon product and it works great. It doesn't support the cfreport tags though (nor do the non-free versions of BlueDragon) so not only is crystal not included, but integration with it isn't there even if you buy it. This was a problem for us since reporting was a big part of our app, and printing from browsers generally sucks. I haven't seen anything to indicate the situation with native PHP is any different, but I'm sure I'll be corrected soon enough.
Oh, and yes, I look very cool.
So is Brittney Spears, and...wait, I was going to make a point about something....
Agreed.
We get paid more to cover the taxes we pay.
Run that by anyone who has worked in any general labor trade, manufacutring, etc. over the past 20 years. This is certainly not the case.
If corperations were taxed and not people we would be paid less but effectively have the same spending power.
Not sure if that's true, but a better scenario would be if people were taxed and not corporations. In the latter case, lower income strata are not forced to purchase higher-priced products to subsidize the corporate tax burden, yet the middle-class continue bear the greatest tax burden.
What our current system does is support a whole load of societal free loaders known as personal tax accountants and a few hundred thousand IRS employees. Simple do the math.
Maybe not....
I had a DEC Rainbow.
/. I may never have a better opportunity.
I've always waited for an appropriate place to post that on
Should be obvious: SCO
Well, something he did was convince school-age children that blowjobs were not sexual relations. But that won't have any long-term negative effects I'm sure....
Great comeback! Every time someone exposes Clinton for what he was (the worst president in the history of the United States, whose bad policy and incredibly poor decision-making will harm this country for decades) there is a minor revolt on /. Most notably, Clintons' non-response to the terrorist acts of the '90s and decimation of the American millitary make him the most singularly responsible individual for the attacks of September 11th, but I'm sure you think it had something to do with ballots in Florida...
No, actually it does work, its when you screw with it that it breaks down.
I agree that we are over taxed and it needs to be reduced. I do not believe that is what is contributing to the move offshore.
Personal income taxes may not be contributing, but Corporate taxes surely are. Since, in the end, all Corporate taxes and expenses are paid by consumers, Corporate income tax should be 0%. Try ECO101 for an explanation.
How many people who buy Porsche 911's actually drive 175MPH? None where I live. Just because a vehicle *can* do something doesn't mean you're legally obligated to do it. I drive a Ford Expedition because: (1)I used to drive an F-series pickup (which is what the Expedition/Navigator basically is underneath), (2) I had kids and would sooner stick a fork in my eye than drive a minivan, and (3) because I feel like it.
Question: Why do all the hippie tree-huggers bitch about people who have SUVs and don't drive offroad, yet bitch even LOUDER when someone DOES drive offroad that they're destroying the ecosystem and are accelerating the hand-of-god-coming-to-sweep-us-of-the-face-of-the- earth process?