Even if you get an app working, chances are it will break with every update. How do you sell that to someone? "Here is this new cool operating system, and here is the guy you're going to have to employ to configure every single windows-based application you want to try out...Oh, and no guarantees, he may not be able to get it to work." Guess what? Don't upgrade. That's just not smart. I know of ZERO companies who installed Windows Vista the day it came out on their production servers, and if anyone does the same with Wine, bad things can happen.
Quite frankly Wine is understaffed for the purposes of recreating a whole operating system, but your argument of "These two secret apps don't work and never will" doesn't really hold much water. Even "These two secret apps don't work because...blah blah blah" would be better.
"It dont work" is NOT a valid technical issue. And adding references to shit does't exactly make you more credible.
I understand why people would not want to run Windows. I understand why people would not want to run Office. But why would you want to run Office and not run Windows? Because Open Office and friends still aren't perfect, and there are already people sending me.docx files. (And people like their macros)
A common myth. Wine may never be 100% compatable with MS Windows, but it can be 100% compatable with MS Windows Programs. No company in their right mind would release software that only works on the latest version which has been out for one month. They'll wait until there's enough of a base to justify it, and that takes time. Time that developers have to implement.
You'll have to set up Cygwin:-p
In all seriousness, some of the DLLs can actually be used on MS Windows (if you want to ask why anyone would want to do this, its because you/could/ litter them with TRACE statements, and see what goes on with $WINDOWS_APP).
File a bug if something doesn't work. No one will fix your problem if they don't know it exists.
And Wine is an emulator for PE (Windows files) just as much as Linux is an emulator for ELF files. They do the same thing: read in the binary, run through the x86 instructions, and forward libary calls to the appropriate libraries. Only Wine's libraries just happen to be mostly incomplete, ATM.
Um, I beleive he is referring to Reiser4, which isn't just _somewhere_. Its in -mm for some political reason, but quite available. Its only probably one of thdÙÅ7cond most popular kernels.
That's just ignorant. And I'll tell you why you should care. Because no matter how fast your processor is, I'm guessing your hard drive still only spins at 7200 RPMs. Meaning that those binaries that are getting larger and larger will take longer and longer to load because your hard drive still has to read all that (now larger) data. Also, internet connections aren't getting terribly faster, so downloads now take longer.
Oh, and I like to multi-task. I'll the kind of guy who likes to leave programs open (for continuity) while gaming. And the less resources everything else is taking means the more FPS I get out of my FPS's.
*shrugs* Its thanksgiving, and a low news-volume day (at least here in the US where we celebrate our ansestors taking a break from killing all the natives)
While your statement is valid, I don't think your point is. I'm a very strong OSS advocate, with GNU/Linux installed; I don't even have MS Windows. But while opensource is great for developers, and hasa the potential to create greater products -- the end user doesn't care. It doesn't matter if the code is "freely available". Pending exploits is all that matters in the real world.
Why is it always Linux or OSX? What about BSD, huh? What if they put a UNIX OS on that UNIX hardware of theirs. Or what about Syllable, or SkyOS? *grin*
The inconsitancies I've seen from Apple are when people people run iTunes on windows, and it doesn't blend in with the rest of the environment. I'm not sure if that's fair to pin against Apple or not, because *sigh* MS does that too with office.
People say it doesn't matter, but I think an integrated DE in terms of appearance makes a big aesthetic difference.
The windows registry is a bad idea because its in two giant files, which are easily corruptable. Gconf settings are stored in keys, small text files, I believe.
And yes I have. Keeping extranious options in the UI causes the user to make more decisions. Most users don't want to make that many decisions. What options are you missing?
In theory, yes. But Mplayer seems to have problems with streaming video for me. So yes and no for Linux porn.
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>there's soo much information out there and no really great way to access it all on a whim - except, that is, google. Making the world's knowledge available instantly is what google is about, and they're doing a great job.
I thought making the world's knowledge available was wikipedia's thing...
Regedit never bothered me. If you're such a poweruser, it shouldn't bother you, either. Or, checkout other MS Clones like gtweakui, which is a program for a lot of commonly reset gconf keys.
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Better question: if what you say is true, then why are we supporting more and more rather than less and less?
Wine doesn't have a logo? I'd send you a link, but the website is down. Oh wait! All I had to do was scroll up to see it ON SLASHDOT!
A common myth. Wine may never be 100% compatable with MS Windows, but it can be 100% compatable with MS Windows Programs. No company in their right mind would release software that only works on the latest version which has been out for one month. They'll wait until there's enough of a base to justify it, and that takes time. Time that developers have to implement.
You'll have to set up Cygwin :-p
In all seriousness, some of the DLLs can actually be used on MS Windows (if you want to ask why anyone would want to do this, its because you /could/ litter them with TRACE statements, and see what goes on with $WINDOWS_APP).
File a bug if something doesn't work. No one will fix your problem if they don't know it exists.
And Wine is an emulator for PE (Windows files) just as much as Linux is an emulator for ELF files. They do the same thing: read in the binary, run through the x86 instructions, and forward libary calls to the appropriate libraries. Only Wine's libraries just happen to be mostly incomplete, ATM.
I think you're all a bit off
Um, I beleive he is referring to Reiser4, which isn't just _somewhere_. Its in -mm for some political reason, but quite available. Its only probably one of thdÙÅ7cond most popular kernels.
That's just ignorant. And I'll tell you why you should care. Because no matter how fast your processor is, I'm guessing your hard drive still only spins at 7200 RPMs. Meaning that those binaries that are getting larger and larger will take longer and longer to load because your hard drive still has to read all that (now larger) data. Also, internet connections aren't getting terribly faster, so downloads now take longer. Oh, and I like to multi-task. I'll the kind of guy who likes to leave programs open (for continuity) while gaming. And the less resources everything else is taking means the more FPS I get out of my FPS's.
I think this is slashdot gone way too fucking far.
Something tells me it definately wasn't psionic.
Alright. I cast BSOD of slaying on your Win-zard.
If you're flutent in object inheritance, than Ubuntu is a class within Debian. Its basically Debian plus conveniance.
*shrugs* Its thanksgiving, and a low news-volume day (at least here in the US where we celebrate our ansestors taking a break from killing all the natives)
I was wondering how the hell they named their products, and why they started out at four point something.
While your statement is valid, I don't think your point is. I'm a very strong OSS advocate, with GNU/Linux installed; I don't even have MS Windows. But while opensource is great for developers, and hasa the potential to create greater products -- the end user doesn't care. It doesn't matter if the code is "freely available". Pending exploits is all that matters in the real world.
Why is it always Linux or OSX? What about BSD, huh? What if they put a UNIX OS on that UNIX hardware of theirs. Or what about Syllable, or SkyOS? *grin*
The inconsitancies I've seen from Apple are when people people run iTunes on windows, and it doesn't blend in with the rest of the environment. I'm not sure if that's fair to pin against Apple or not, because *sigh* MS does that too with office. People say it doesn't matter, but I think an integrated DE in terms of appearance makes a big aesthetic difference.
I'm surprised that its not a requirement.
The windows registry is a bad idea because its in two giant files, which are easily corruptable. Gconf settings are stored in keys, small text files, I believe. And yes I have. Keeping extranious options in the UI causes the user to make more decisions. Most users don't want to make that many decisions. What options are you missing?
In theory, yes. But Mplayer seems to have problems with streaming video for me. So yes and no for Linux porn.
>there's soo much information out there and no really great way to access it all on a whim - except, that is, google. Making the world's knowledge available instantly is what google is about, and they're doing a great job. I thought making the world's knowledge available was wikipedia's thing...
Regedit never bothered me. If you're such a poweruser, it shouldn't bother you, either. Or, checkout other MS Clones like gtweakui, which is a program for a lot of commonly reset gconf keys.