I think running a mail server is a bit more complicated than a webserver or a streaming server for video. From my past experiences, I've spent more time tuning mail servers and adding features. It seems with mail, I have to keep up on spammer countermeasures, antivirus and spam filtering software, and different imap/webmail packages.
Does anyone know what mail server hotmail uses for smtp and imap or pop or whatever? I'm curious what scales up that well regardless of platform. If there's actually a decent windows mail server product, i'd love to know. I'm running on FreeBSD now, but i'd like to go back to.NET and mono doesn't work.
The only thing you lose with an iMac is upgradability. I bought a crt model about 5 years ago. It had a 10gb hard drive, 64mb ram, ati rage 128 pro 8mb video, etc. I was able to upgrade the ram to 512mb (it did a gig though), and i threw in a 80gb seagate drive. Installing the drive took an hour, but i did it. I kept the machine 4 years and sold it for $400 with iSub and the original keyboard/mouse. I spent $1200 on the computer, $70 on iSub and $90 for the hard drive. Overall it worked out. I upgraded to an iBook G4 which was 800mhz (twice the clock). So if you are going to keep it a few years or your not a gamer and things like hard drives or external devices are ok its worth it. If you are heavy into games, you'll get about 2 years out of it not counting id software games. The cpu will be ok in two years, but the video card will not. iBooks are much worse on this front since the cpu is outdated to begin with (G4). My wife's iBook (bought in september) can play WoW great though.
If you need upgradability, get a PowerMac G5 or wait for the PowerMac replacement. I should warn that the G5s don't have extra drive bays like the later G4s. (for dvd burners and such)
Its called brand recognition. Some people do care. Besides, its not the same thing. I don't remember going into a Sony store, but i could go into an apple store and buy an iPod. If I did, I'd be surrounded by macs! In which case, I might get curious what the other side has. If you sit outside an apple store for a few minutes, you'll see someone come out with an iBook, iMac or some other computer. Then watch a comparable dell booth and you see people walking away shaking their heads. Why? They find out they can't take a dell home right then. Several of those people then walk into the apple store and come out with a mac. See the issue?
I think the problem is that many people don't know apple makes the iPod including iPod owners! I've talked to people on campus at my university and many don't realize they are using an apple product. I had an ipod mini owner flip it over and freak out because there indeed was an apple on the back! You'd think the box was obvious enough, but not for people on my campus. Of course there was that brief HP branded fiasco. Most newer ipod ads show the Apple logo and iPod + iTunes to knock it into people its an apple product.
What i'm interested to see is what happens to the idiots. My first pc was bought by my aunt. I went with her and all she said to the salesman was I want pentium! (1995 pre win95 launch) She just kept repeating that! Intel had brand recognition. She asked a doctor at the hospital she worked at and all she got out of it was Pentium. She didn't even know what windows was then. Today she has a windows desktop I built for her in 1999 running on an old amd chip, a windows handheld and a newer dell laptop with xp. She knows windows now and doesn't care about pentium because i convinced her amd = pentium so it was ok:)
Now if i got her back on the pro intel thing she might buy a mac. intel ceo says buy mac.. she will comply.
10% of my family runs on macs and most of the windows users have 5 year old computers. I expect some new computer purchases and guess what i'll recommend. Hell if they want windows, i'll load it for them too.
Everyone else has pointed out the libraries, etc. It would be nice for US linux distros to be able to actually distribute ISOs and sell discs with the DVD player software built in like apple does. Windows users have to dick with software as well, but macs just play dvds out of the box. I think thats the issue. I shouldn't have to custom compile libraries with my region code, break the law, to simply play episode 3 of star wars or TOS or whatever.
Any granny with aol 9 has a firewall and antivirus. Now they may be bad ones. AIM exploits are NOT limited to aol customers though. Aol and third parties make AIM clients for the general public as well. Thats the real target area. Hell every mac ships with an AIM client (iChat).
The trick here is to watch what the 12 year olds are using. They will click on anything and prefer IM conversations to email like my generation and phones likes my parents generation. I run an et clan and most of my members use MSN IM software but also have one other service. Europeans often have ICQ, americans have AIM and most others seem to have yahoo or something else. All of them use xfire for finding games... i've always wondered if that is spyware.
You're right, but I also think AMD needs money. They have to compete with intel's new marketing campaign somehow. So far AMD has done well with smaller ad campaigns and word of mouth. If they want to get into the business sector and my local best buy, they need to tell people they exist. Maybe AMD can drop their lawsuits with intel and compete by paying for Dell and HPs ads like intel does.
In fact, prior to getting my ipod, I had roughly 1200 songs imported into itunes. Of that 1200, 200 were purchased from iTunes. I have an ipod mini and as of today i have 583 items in my purchased playlist in itunes. That includes 1 audio book (4 tracks), season 1 and 4 of monk, and 8 other tv downloads. They do make video ipods now too. While i have imported more of my audio cds that I owned (and some from my wife's collection), most of my new music was acquired on itunes music store since it came out. I have purchased exactly 4 cds since iTunes music store started. One was for my wife, and the other three were not available on iTunes or included a dvd that i couldn't get on itunes.
Everyone bitches about DRM, but I see it like serial numbers on software. There will always be a way to crack it. I don't like the RIAA suing people, but thats because I know a lot of people that have stopped or slowed down using P2P to get music. My mother, in-laws and my household all use the iTunes music store. I don't agree that music companies should make so much off the music, but I don't have a problem with artists or retailers making money on music. Apple has to employee people for tech support, adding content, etc. If you steal a disk you don't just fuck the RIAA over, you also fuck people who are trying to make money to feed their kids and shit. (you know low to mid income americans who sell shit or do computer shit for a living) I'm sure apple outsources some of it to india and I dont' know it but even so little apu has to feed his kids too.
Its like people who think that software piracy is 100% ok. I think everyone does it except very extreme OSS zealots who run ONLY OSS stuff. Although bill gates might not get richer, either will bob in accounting or chuck the high school drop out thats putting the cd in the box. My personal rule of thumb is that if i can afford the software I buy it and if i can't well tough shit.. it should be afordable for real people. So i'm not going to spend 500 dollars for office professional but $129 for mac os x i can do. (actually i'm a student so its $69) I wish prices were set for software in the midwest so its acutally affordable for most of the country instead of the west coast. Hell we should have tiered pricing. Groceries change with cost of living but office is 500 dollars everywhere. Why the hell is that?
I agree completely. Increase battery capacity. Not with 2 batteries, but one bigger battery. The weight of two would be too much. Just something to get an extra hour out of it.
Another thing apple could do is starting shipping with either larger or faster notebook hard drives. 7200 rpm drives are out and i think a bump for the ibook and powerbook would really make newer macs fly. Apple pushes iDVD and iMovie but doesn't give you the hard drive for it.
The numbers seem a bit off, but Java is a wordy language. The servlet api tends to make you code much closer to the protocol than you should need too. The lack of a standard web framework for java makes things very difficult. Every other language tends to have one way to do things at the basic level and with java you are stuck learning a few frameworks and pray you don't have to switch.
Java based web apps take longer to code in my experience. I dislike php and haven't found time to play with ruby on rails or python. I also dislike jsp as a view technology.
I think the problem we are seeing with web technology is that there are two types of programmers. We have the hobby or asp era web app developers who prefer scripting and we have the bulky framework keep my job by adding complexity since real app development is dead type. In reality, the ideal model is probably somewhere in the middle. Scripting for views and easy stuff and something more framework like for web services and other things that require performance or a lot of code. (where scripting is slow) I like ASP.NET to some degree because its somewhere near the middle. I learned to code with vb and classic asp in the late 90s so I have a bias toward Microsoft on development. I think they provide some of the easiest development environments. I think the lack of classic asp scripting has forced hobbyists into php though.
I'd like to see someone create a good balanced environment with a scripting language and a framework for things like web services and ways to use code written in other languages (like C++) easily. I don't think we'll ever have that again.
As for tapestry, at the time I tried to learn it when it was just switching to be an apache project, it had the worst documentation ever. From what i've seen lately, the apache project still has that problem. Apache 2.0/2.2 aren't well documented systems and most of the jakarta projects are an order of magnitude worse.
In case anyone is wondering why I hate php so much, read the change logs. Code written for one release does not work on the next way too often. I don't just speak of the php 5 migration but of the 4.0 vs 4.1 vs 4.2 etc changes. A good project does not break their api on a whim. Most java developers and.NET developers agree on that point. Unless you are doing a major release (4.x to 5.x), there should be no major changes to the api that break things. Remember php is a language! Each time there is a change, its usually easy to fix but means there is non stop maintinence on web apps. It certainly makes it hard to sell them doesn't it? Your customers upgrade their server and break their software, etc. Your hosting company decides to patch a security hole and upgrade.. now customers sites are down. One can complain about microsoft, but at least asp apps tended to work when new versions of the language came out. IIS 4 and IIS 5 could both run my sites for instance without any changes at the time. I upgrade tomcat and my java servlets still run ok. I started on 4.x and now run on 5.5.x! Its not an open source problem because tomcat works.
Ok, but I think the argument now is if the website is considered part of educational operations. Its not essential to the operation of a school at least.
Microsoft doesn't need to include anything from NeXT anymore. They've already used it. Hmm.. an object oriented framework for applications? Microsoft has that now. X's in the right hand corner to close windows... done. (not next specific, but one of the oldest oses i've used with it) Good networking capabilities... done. (well its not exactly bsd sockets.. but it works and offers some interop with protocols) WWW support. What do i mean by this? The FIRST web browser was written on a NeXT machine by TimBL. done. TextEdit is a lot like Wordpad wouldn't you say? Which is a lot like Write. done. The ability to run two apps simultaneously without crashing.. done. (well usually.. if its an engineering app thats another story) I don't feel like going on with this.
All graphical systems have components stolen from others. Apple steals from microsoft and microsoft steals from apple. KDE steals from both and both steal back. Gnome copies everyone else and.. oh wait. Parts of OSX remind me of OS/2 Warp 4 but you don't see me bitching at apple from robbing IBM. I don't even know who stole from who sometimes. Windows Vista is designed to catch MS up to apple's multimedia push from the last 5 years. Bill gates is counting on the new features to curb sales in large markets with apple stores. Apple is gaining customers in those markets. 45 minutes way there is an apple store and a dell both a few stores apart. Can you guess which one is busy? Its not the dell both. Quite a few people compare the machines and then you see them come out with apple bags or iBook boxes. Part of it is the operating system features. Remember when you got your first pc? If you were like me, you bought it on software that it came with. Hell I got a packard bell. The only thing about packard bell machines I can say is 1. they had a good software package, 2. they could run NT4 and OS/2 warp 3 well and 3. it lasted 7 years (gave to my mom). Software sells machines.. and i wanted an apple then but couldn't afford it. The IBM or Nec machines had nothing but windows on them. Microsoft needs this release. Most praised linux distros on slashdot are the bloated ones with 8000 programs that do the same thing. Why? People like software and consider it a feature. Its why ubuntu or redhat are talked about more than gentoo and debian.
If Windows Vista fails, its the beginning to the end of the MS monopoly. Consumers don't care what OS they run, just people like us do. Its like buying a toyota vs a ford. Who cares. Different under the hood, but it still gets to from point a to point b (or website a to website b). This multimedia approach is why that 5% is important because it effected Microsoft and it will effect Linux distros as more multimedia will be required for home and business adoption of the software.
The interesting thing is that windows vista will force people to buy new pcs to get it. No upgrades this time. Unless you're a gamer, you don't have a video card that can run it. Apple's switch to intel hit at a great time. People have to rebuy computers and it could mean a big market share switch for apple, Microsoft, and/or the linux community if everyone plays their cards right.
Firewire 800 sucks because the connector is different. Its not backwardly compatible. Although there are problems using usb 1.1 devices in 2.0 ports sometimes, end users don't notice a difference in old devices working typically. Firewire 800 on a g5 is great for an external disk though.
Exactly. This is a classic Gates tactic. Get the price to ignore your real competition for a while and look at someone meaningless. It might be true that Bill Gates wants more employees at Microsoft and wants to be as big as IBM. He is very competitive. A real rival though? Apple said the same thing about IBM in the 80s. The real problem was Microsoft, a small company.
I watched about 2/3 of that CES disaster. Its obvious that Windows Vista is a catch-up release. Its aimed at Apple and the KDE project. Both Apple and KDE have most of those features or will have them before the Vista launch. I also watched a "kernel" architecture video on MSDN for Vista the other day. It was obvious Microsoft is using open source ideas for scheduling and several other ideas from unix and linux. They add a bad twist so they can say they weren't copying. The seperation they are so proud of reminds me of dos + windows 3.x running together. They had that when I got my first pc. Its like a step back in time. I'm not excited about windows gaming anymore. From what I saw, its like when windows 95 first came out. There were no native games for it. At least then, I could drop to dos to play. I may have to dual boot windows (xp and vista) for the first time in 5 years. On the up side, windows is getting almost all Mac OS X features except spotlight. They did improve search within the shell though so thats 10.3 at least. I can't wait to see what apple releases next so KDE and Microsoft can innovate. Soon all my computers will have dashboard.
No and what i've read about rosetta so far it doesn't do g4 or g5 instructions so we can't run modern games either. Classic support (os9 and lower) is dead as well.
True, but thats because apple is better at marketing than microsoft. Microsoft wants everyone to have a tablet pc and a media center pc. Media centers are starting to catch on as lamers find them at dell.com and hp.com compared to standard systems. Tablet pcs aren't popular in most markets because of their poor battery life. I wouldn't mind one if it was fast, ran linux or bsd and windows, and had a battery that could keep up with my iBook. I think tablet pcs are right up there with some of apple's mistakes though. Microsoft just has the money to keep pushing it for 5 years whereas apple does not. Hospitals use them now i guess.
Lamers love gimicks.. centrino anyone? When I got my first computer, I wanted a mac or a packard bell. (sad i know but i was a noob and 16) My aunt heard the word "Pentium" at work and so when we went to best buy and she asked what to buy all she said was "I want pentium". She did not know it was an intel processor or that most pcs contained intel chips.. just "I want pentium". To this day, my aunt refuses to use anything but pcs. I built her an amd box and she's bitched every year since about how its not a pentium! (amd k6-2 300mhz) It still runs. There are wintel zealots too, but most of them are computer noobs like my aunt. Had I got that mac in 1995, I would have been a great programmer by now. Thats all apple users had to do. Instead, I learned windows 3.11, dos 6.22, 95 and how to reinstall it 50+ times. Thanks microsoft for making me the IT person I am today.
because it helps sony. They have to support another music service which sells some of their music. Contrary to comments on slashdot, apple does sell some sony artists. Anyone notice the mariah carey albums on iTunes? Not the new ones, but the old ones that were done while she was on a sony label? Her christmas album was number 1 during the holidays on there. Sony gets to give people money on iTunes and guess what they do... rebuy the tainted album without the sony rootkit and instead get apple's fairplay instead.
I like iTunes, but in reality this helps sony a great deal.
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I think running a mail server is a bit more complicated than a webserver or a streaming server for video. From my past experiences, I've spent more time tuning mail servers and adding features. It seems with mail, I have to keep up on spammer countermeasures, antivirus and spam filtering software, and different imap/webmail packages.
.NET and mono doesn't work.
Does anyone know what mail server hotmail uses for smtp and imap or pop or whatever? I'm curious what scales up that well regardless of platform. If there's actually a decent windows mail server product, i'd love to know. I'm running on FreeBSD now, but i'd like to go back to
The only thing you lose with an iMac is upgradability. I bought a crt model about 5 years ago. It had a 10gb hard drive, 64mb ram, ati rage 128 pro 8mb video, etc. I was able to upgrade the ram to 512mb (it did a gig though), and i threw in a 80gb seagate drive. Installing the drive took an hour, but i did it. I kept the machine 4 years and sold it for $400 with iSub and the original keyboard/mouse. I spent $1200 on the computer, $70 on iSub and $90 for the hard drive. Overall it worked out. I upgraded to an iBook G4 which was 800mhz (twice the clock). So if you are going to keep it a few years or your not a gamer and things like hard drives or external devices are ok its worth it. If you are heavy into games, you'll get about 2 years out of it not counting id software games. The cpu will be ok in two years, but the video card will not. iBooks are much worse on this front since the cpu is outdated to begin with (G4). My wife's iBook (bought in september) can play WoW great though.
If you need upgradability, get a PowerMac G5 or wait for the PowerMac replacement. I should warn that the G5s don't have extra drive bays like the later G4s. (for dvd burners and such)
Its called brand recognition. Some people do care. Besides, its not the same thing. I don't remember going into a Sony store, but i could go into an apple store and buy an iPod. If I did, I'd be surrounded by macs! In which case, I might get curious what the other side has. If you sit outside an apple store for a few minutes, you'll see someone come out with an iBook, iMac or some other computer. Then watch a comparable dell booth and you see people walking away shaking their heads. Why? They find out they can't take a dell home right then. Several of those people then walk into the apple store and come out with a mac. See the issue?
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I think the problem is that many people don't know apple makes the iPod including iPod owners! I've talked to people on campus at my university and many don't realize they are using an apple product. I had an ipod mini owner flip it over and freak out because there indeed was an apple on the back! You'd think the box was obvious enough, but not for people on my campus. Of course there was that brief HP branded fiasco. Most newer ipod ads show the Apple logo and iPod + iTunes to knock it into people its an apple product.
What i'm interested to see is what happens to the idiots. My first pc was bought by my aunt. I went with her and all she said to the salesman was I want pentium! (1995 pre win95 launch) She just kept repeating that! Intel had brand recognition. She asked a doctor at the hospital she worked at and all she got out of it was Pentium. She didn't even know what windows was then. Today she has a windows desktop I built for her in 1999 running on an old amd chip, a windows handheld and a newer dell laptop with xp. She knows windows now and doesn't care about pentium because i convinced her amd = pentium so it was ok
Now if i got her back on the pro intel thing she might buy a mac. intel ceo says buy mac.. she will comply.
10% of my family runs on macs and most of the windows users have 5 year old computers. I expect some new computer purchases and guess what i'll recommend. Hell if they want windows, i'll load it for them too.
Some versions of system works have included NAV. So it does have something to do with it.
Everyone else has pointed out the libraries, etc. It would be nice for US linux distros to be able to actually distribute ISOs and sell discs with the DVD player software built in like apple does. Windows users have to dick with software as well, but macs just play dvds out of the box. I think thats the issue. I shouldn't have to custom compile libraries with my region code, break the law, to simply play episode 3 of star wars or TOS or whatever.
Any granny with aol 9 has a firewall and antivirus. Now they may be bad ones. AIM exploits are NOT limited to aol customers though. Aol and third parties make AIM clients for the general public as well. Thats the real target area. Hell every mac ships with an AIM client (iChat).
The trick here is to watch what the 12 year olds are using. They will click on anything and prefer IM conversations to email like my generation and phones likes my parents generation. I run an et clan and most of my members use MSN IM software but also have one other service. Europeans often have ICQ, americans have AIM and most others seem to have yahoo or something else. All of them use xfire for finding games... i've always wondered if that is spyware.
You're right, but I also think AMD needs money. They have to compete with intel's new marketing campaign somehow. So far AMD has done well with smaller ad campaigns and word of mouth. If they want to get into the business sector and my local best buy, they need to tell people they exist. Maybe AMD can drop their lawsuits with intel and compete by paying for Dell and HPs ads like intel does.
In fact, prior to getting my ipod, I had roughly 1200 songs imported into itunes. Of that 1200, 200 were purchased from iTunes. I have an ipod mini and as of today i have 583 items in my purchased playlist in itunes. That includes 1 audio book (4 tracks), season 1 and 4 of monk, and 8 other tv downloads. They do make video ipods now too. While i have imported more of my audio cds that I owned (and some from my wife's collection), most of my new music was acquired on itunes music store since it came out. I have purchased exactly 4 cds since iTunes music store started. One was for my wife, and the other three were not available on iTunes or included a dvd that i couldn't get on itunes.
Everyone bitches about DRM, but I see it like serial numbers on software. There will always be a way to crack it. I don't like the RIAA suing people, but thats because I know a lot of people that have stopped or slowed down using P2P to get music. My mother, in-laws and my household all use the iTunes music store. I don't agree that music companies should make so much off the music, but I don't have a problem with artists or retailers making money on music. Apple has to employee people for tech support, adding content, etc. If you steal a disk you don't just fuck the RIAA over, you also fuck people who are trying to make money to feed their kids and shit. (you know low to mid income americans who sell shit or do computer shit for a living) I'm sure apple outsources some of it to india and I dont' know it but even so little apu has to feed his kids too.
Its like people who think that software piracy is 100% ok. I think everyone does it except very extreme OSS zealots who run ONLY OSS stuff. Although bill gates might not get richer, either will bob in accounting or chuck the high school drop out thats putting the cd in the box. My personal rule of thumb is that if i can afford the software I buy it and if i can't well tough shit.. it should be afordable for real people. So i'm not going to spend 500 dollars for office professional but $129 for mac os x i can do. (actually i'm a student so its $69) I wish prices were set for software in the midwest so its acutally affordable for most of the country instead of the west coast. Hell we should have tiered pricing. Groceries change with cost of living but office is 500 dollars everywhere. Why the hell is that?
I agree completely. Increase battery capacity. Not with 2 batteries, but one bigger battery. The weight of two would be too much. Just something to get an extra hour out of it.
Another thing apple could do is starting shipping with either larger or faster notebook hard drives. 7200 rpm drives are out and i think a bump for the ibook and powerbook would really make newer macs fly. Apple pushes iDVD and iMovie but doesn't give you the hard drive for it.
Perhaps but if apple is close to an intel based ibook or powerbook, why would they invest the time/money to engineer an G5 based model?
Clippy - "You seem to be having problems with your TPS report. Shall I contact your 8 bosses for assistance?"
Yes, we have lcd displays mounted on wall mounts at work in the server room. Its quite helpful.
I wouldn't mind it at home actually. Then again, an LCD display would be a start. My 19 inch crt takes a lot of desktop room.
The numbers seem a bit off, but Java is a wordy language. The servlet api tends to make you code much closer to the protocol than you should need too. The lack of a standard web framework for java makes things very difficult. Every other language tends to have one way to do things at the basic level and with java you are stuck learning a few frameworks and pray you don't have to switch.
.NET developers agree on that point. Unless you are doing a major release (4.x to 5.x), there should be no major changes to the api that break things. Remember php is a language! Each time there is a change, its usually easy to fix but means there is non stop maintinence on web apps. It certainly makes it hard to sell them doesn't it? Your customers upgrade their server and break their software, etc. Your hosting company decides to patch a security hole and upgrade.. now customers sites are down. One can complain about microsoft, but at least asp apps tended to work when new versions of the language came out. IIS 4 and IIS 5 could both run my sites for instance without any changes at the time. I upgrade tomcat and my java servlets still run ok. I started on 4.x and now run on 5.5.x! Its not an open source problem because tomcat works.
Java based web apps take longer to code in my experience. I dislike php and haven't found time to play with ruby on rails or python. I also dislike jsp as a view technology.
I think the problem we are seeing with web technology is that there are two types of programmers. We have the hobby or asp era web app developers who prefer scripting and we have the bulky framework keep my job by adding complexity since real app development is dead type. In reality, the ideal model is probably somewhere in the middle. Scripting for views and easy stuff and something more framework like for web services and other things that require performance or a lot of code. (where scripting is slow) I like ASP.NET to some degree because its somewhere near the middle. I learned to code with vb and classic asp in the late 90s so I have a bias toward Microsoft on development. I think they provide some of the easiest development environments. I think the lack of classic asp scripting has forced hobbyists into php though.
I'd like to see someone create a good balanced environment with a scripting language and a framework for things like web services and ways to use code written in other languages (like C++) easily. I don't think we'll ever have that again.
As for tapestry, at the time I tried to learn it when it was just switching to be an apache project, it had the worst documentation ever. From what i've seen lately, the apache project still has that problem. Apache 2.0/2.2 aren't well documented systems and most of the jakarta projects are an order of magnitude worse.
In case anyone is wondering why I hate php so much, read the change logs. Code written for one release does not work on the next way too often. I don't just speak of the php 5 migration but of the 4.0 vs 4.1 vs 4.2 etc changes. A good project does not break their api on a whim. Most java developers and
How do you get it to run on any *nix platform? Really? I've been trying to get it to run on freebsd 5 and 6 for some time.
And its a CRT with no hdmi inputs and 4:3 aspect ration. I don't think so.
Well i don't use ie in windows, but that doesn't mean I can't get attacked through it. :)
I think its sad that Microsoft beat open source to a patch. Lets get it together people!
Ok, but I think the argument now is if the website is considered part of educational operations. Its not essential to the operation of a school at least.
Microsoft doesn't need to include anything from NeXT anymore. They've already used it. Hmm.. an object oriented framework for applications? Microsoft has that now. X's in the right hand corner to close windows... done. (not next specific, but one of the oldest oses i've used with it) Good networking capabilities... done. (well its not exactly bsd sockets.. but it works and offers some interop with protocols) WWW support. What do i mean by this? The FIRST web browser was written on a NeXT machine by TimBL. done. TextEdit is a lot like Wordpad wouldn't you say? Which is a lot like Write. done. The ability to run two apps simultaneously without crashing.. done. (well usually.. if its an engineering app thats another story) I don't feel like going on with this.
.. oh wait. Parts of OSX remind me of OS/2 Warp 4 but you don't see me bitching at apple from robbing IBM. I don't even know who stole from who sometimes. Windows Vista is designed to catch MS up to apple's multimedia push from the last 5 years. Bill gates is counting on the new features to curb sales in large markets with apple stores. Apple is gaining customers in those markets. 45 minutes way there is an apple store and a dell both a few stores apart. Can you guess which one is busy? Its not the dell both. Quite a few people compare the machines and then you see them come out with apple bags or iBook boxes. Part of it is the operating system features. Remember when you got your first pc? If you were like me, you bought it on software that it came with. Hell I got a packard bell. The only thing about packard bell machines I can say is 1. they had a good software package, 2. they could run NT4 and OS/2 warp 3 well and 3. it lasted 7 years (gave to my mom). Software sells machines.. and i wanted an apple then but couldn't afford it. The IBM or Nec machines had nothing but windows on them. Microsoft needs this release. Most praised linux distros on slashdot are the bloated ones with 8000 programs that do the same thing. Why? People like software and consider it a feature. Its why ubuntu or redhat are talked about more than gentoo and debian.
All graphical systems have components stolen from others. Apple steals from microsoft and microsoft steals from apple. KDE steals from both and both steal back. Gnome copies everyone else and
If Windows Vista fails, its the beginning to the end of the MS monopoly. Consumers don't care what OS they run, just people like us do. Its like buying a toyota vs a ford. Who cares. Different under the hood, but it still gets to from point a to point b (or website a to website b). This multimedia approach is why that 5% is important because it effected Microsoft and it will effect Linux distros as more multimedia will be required for home and business adoption of the software.
The interesting thing is that windows vista will force people to buy new pcs to get it. No upgrades this time. Unless you're a gamer, you don't have a video card that can run it. Apple's switch to intel hit at a great time. People have to rebuy computers and it could mean a big market share switch for apple, Microsoft, and/or the linux community if everyone plays their cards right.
Firewire 800 sucks because the connector is different. Its not backwardly compatible. Although there are problems using usb 1.1 devices in 2.0 ports sometimes, end users don't notice a difference in old devices working typically. Firewire 800 on a g5 is great for an external disk though.
Exactly. This is a classic Gates tactic. Get the price to ignore your real competition for a while and look at someone meaningless. It might be true that Bill Gates wants more employees at Microsoft and wants to be as big as IBM. He is very competitive. A real rival though? Apple said the same thing about IBM in the 80s. The real problem was Microsoft, a small company.
I watched about 2/3 of that CES disaster. Its obvious that Windows Vista is a catch-up release. Its aimed at Apple and the KDE project. Both Apple and KDE have most of those features or will have them before the Vista launch. I also watched a "kernel" architecture video on MSDN for Vista the other day. It was obvious Microsoft is using open source ideas for scheduling and several other ideas from unix and linux. They add a bad twist so they can say they weren't copying. The seperation they are so proud of reminds me of dos + windows 3.x running together. They had that when I got my first pc. Its like a step back in time. I'm not excited about windows gaming anymore. From what I saw, its like when windows 95 first came out. There were no native games for it. At least then, I could drop to dos to play. I may have to dual boot windows (xp and vista) for the first time in 5 years. On the up side, windows is getting almost all Mac OS X features except spotlight. They did improve search within the shell though so thats 10.3 at least. I can't wait to see what apple releases next so KDE and Microsoft can innovate. Soon all my computers will have dashboard.
No and what i've read about rosetta so far it doesn't do g4 or g5 instructions so we can't run modern games either. Classic support (os9 and lower) is dead as well.
True, but thats because apple is better at marketing than microsoft. Microsoft wants everyone to have a tablet pc and a media center pc. Media centers are starting to catch on as lamers find them at dell.com and hp.com compared to standard systems. Tablet pcs aren't popular in most markets because of their poor battery life. I wouldn't mind one if it was fast, ran linux or bsd and windows, and had a battery that could keep up with my iBook. I think tablet pcs are right up there with some of apple's mistakes though. Microsoft just has the money to keep pushing it for 5 years whereas apple does not. Hospitals use them now i guess.
Lamers love gimicks.. centrino anyone? When I got my first computer, I wanted a mac or a packard bell. (sad i know but i was a noob and 16) My aunt heard the word "Pentium" at work and so when we went to best buy and she asked what to buy all she said was "I want pentium". She did not know it was an intel processor or that most pcs contained intel chips.. just "I want pentium". To this day, my aunt refuses to use anything but pcs. I built her an amd box and she's bitched every year since about how its not a pentium! (amd k6-2 300mhz) It still runs. There are wintel zealots too, but most of them are computer noobs like my aunt. Had I got that mac in 1995, I would have been a great programmer by now. Thats all apple users had to do. Instead, I learned windows 3.11, dos 6.22, 95 and how to reinstall it 50+ times. Thanks microsoft for making me the IT person I am today.
i meant dumping... oops.
Apple is duming POWER in favor of intel inside... or leap ahead. Powered by frog processors!
Think of it like the 68k to PPC switch of the 90s for apple. This is a migration.
because it helps sony. They have to support another music service which sells some of their music. Contrary to comments on slashdot, apple does sell some sony artists. Anyone notice the mariah carey albums on iTunes? Not the new ones, but the old ones that were done while she was on a sony label? Her christmas album was number 1 during the holidays on there. Sony gets to give people money on iTunes and guess what they do... rebuy the tainted album without the sony rootkit and instead get apple's fairplay instead.
I like iTunes, but in reality this helps sony a great deal.