Microsoft happened to sega. Microsoft sold them an OS for their last console, the dreamcast. It was the prototype xbox in reality. Now microsoft is on their second console. Another MS partner destroyed. Now sega makes games for the xbox, gamecube and ps2.
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Developers don't care about download sizes. They don't think about them. Why else would iTunes be 37mb? Have you seen ati's video drivers? What about virus definitions? The last version of msn messenger?
Besides, if someone does have the.NET framework installed, apps are much smaller than MFC versions. I've written smaller apps (blogging client) that include ms word integration for spell check (so a bunch of dlls) and still its only 800kb. The non developer version of the.NET framework is like 21mb which is smaller than iTunes. My app and the framework are still under iTunes.
One could also argue you can buy a powerpc box from IBM with linux on it. If you want linux, go to the company pushing it.
Besides how hard is it to drop in an ubuntu (or better distro) disc and install. I'm dual booting my iBook G4 right now with ubuntu and Mac OS 10.4. Aside from no airport extreme support, ubuntu supports my hardware fine. (i've never tried the modem though) I picked ubuntu because it had the easiest install directions for a mac i could find. Suse just started supporting them and fedora had no documentation at the time. I didn't feel like going through a gentoo install this time.
I find it odd that people call it the microsoft tax. Most dells are cheaper WITH windows than WITHOUT. Look at their n line or whatever without an os (freedos isn't preloaded). The machines generally cost more money than the windows counterparts. Sometimes they include a real video card (not intel), but other than that they are the same. Price used to be 100 dollars more. I haven't looked since september.
Another odd thing is this person mentioned g5's. Most dells shipped are more like iMacs in terms of quality and specs. (well apple's have better video cards across the line) You should compare Dell Precisions to G5s since they are both workstations. I'm making the assumption the person was talking about powermacs because most people don't talk about iMacs as g5s even though they do contain a g5 chip.
He's quite right. My wife can't hear me in noisy places like the supermarket anymore. It makes things quite difficult. I tend to yell and then she gets pissed off at me. Its not fun. The conversation always ends with "you know i can't hear well". Its a bitch.
I found this interesting because I switched to earbuds recently. Its hard to carry decent headphones around when going to college classes. I might need to rethink this...
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MFC is quite old. Microsoft recommends using C# for gui apps now. They have for several years in fact. Pull a gui toolkit from the mid 90s for unix and i bet it sucks too.
The best OO gui toolkit/framework i can think of thats old is Cocoa in OSX/NEXTSTEP.
Browsing is slower on the mac to some degree. Safari in panther was quite peppy, but 10.4's incarnation sucks. They tried to speed it up at the price of web page compatibility and its a nightmare. I used to run KDE inside x11 on my mac (using fink) and its browser was faster. Sadly safari was based on konquerer so you'd think it would be comparable. Netscape and Firefox have always ran slow on macs. Thats why so many people loved IE on the mac. It was very fast and had a small footprint. It also crashed a lot on pages with plugins.
I'm glad its dead, but i wish apple would fix safari. I'd run the panther version if i had a copy and it would work.
Firefox runs better on Windows XP, FreeBSD and Linux than it does on OSX.
The visualization group has a next machine at my university. I got to crack the root password on it and work on it for a few hours when it was first donated. Its the best computer i've ever used. There are websites selling used ones for 500-1000 dollars if you look around. I've been half tempted to buy one. They are incredible. It is the best computer i've ever used. It felt very fast and it was one of the 68k models. Apps started like they do on my current ibook. The color reminded me of a computer several years newer. It didn't feel like a 256 color windows 3.x box from the early to mid 90s. I've never found a machine that was designed the way I think until that next box. I just wish OSX was more next like.
The problem is many judges don't know what an ip address is. If an "expert" gives a definition of an ip address and how one is obtained and its not brought up about how easy it is to spoof one, she will lose.
She needs an "expert" of her own. Anyone with network security experience that the court will accept as an expert.
Hell i have a "secure" wireless access point in my apartment. I changed the password, turned on WPA2 personal, mac address limiting, and told it not to announce itself. It could still be cracked by a neighbor and used for downloads. Until the general public accepts that wireless is insecure, the RIAA has a real chance in court. Heck isps can get hacked too. I used to work for one awhile back. During my 2.5 years there, we had our dns server rooted 5 times and our mail and web servers each rooted once. Of course running bind 4 in 2000 was stupid in itself. We had spammers and people attacking other servers. One time they even replaced the ps command so we couldn't see their programs running. My old boss is living proof that an idiot setting up linux is a bad thing. At the time I ran the windows servers which did not get rooted because i was psycho about patching and disabling everything.
You don't get why people use regular expressions obviously. They are extremely useful for input validation. You do validate your input don't you? Desktop apps require it just as much as scripting or web applications. One of the joys of.NET is how easy you can create a regular expression or use built in ones (visual studio). Microsoft started pushing them for input validation because it can offer a quick way to sanitize input from sql injection and other attacks. I don't think apple developers have the same mindset about security that a MS developer has. Think about it, using a mac you forget about security. I don't run antivirus on my mac, or spyware tools and i dont' worry when i open my email or surf. On my windows machine, I worry if my virus defs and anti spyware are current or when my last scan occured. Every time I open IE, I remember that i can only go to trusted websites.
Nothing stops you from using a third party regular expression library like pcre. Or simply use the java - objective c bridge in cocoa to use java's regex stuff. Although java is a second class citizen, it is supported to some degree with cocoa.
As for xcode vs intellij, I would never use xcode for java after trying intellij. I use xcode for c/c++ programming all the time though. Its a great ide. I like the debugger interface as it reminds me of microsoft's vb.net debugger in some ways. One thing microsoft doesn't do is add a decent spell check library to.net. Apple's got that covered. Its also incredibly easy to create an opengl window from what i've seen. Menus look better in cocoa than vb or c# as well.
I don't think its fair to compare cocoa and.net. Cocoa is more like MFC and its obvious apple's winning there..NET is more like java. Now maybe one could argue apple should beef up their cocoa to java bridge and document it better to compete with microsoft. Maybe they should add a third easier language to cocoa, i.e the vb for apple machines.
Objective c vs C++ is what people should be comparing here. I can see objections to syntax with objective C. It is much different than modern languages using the "." notation and so forth. My wife and I both have trouble remembering the syntax for objective C, but I haven't tried that hard to use it yet either.
If you think cocoa is so bad, try to write a.NET app in managed C++ sometime. C# is java and vb is easier c#. Its like comparing real basic to C and declaring real basic easier to write a graphical text editor in.
Apple could add more libraries to cocoa. That would be helpful. I personally found it confusing to connect buttons and objects in interface builder to backend code compared to.NET. Coming from a windows background its weird and feels like extra steps.
And you just did the same mistake.. 4 out of 10? To really know if this is recent or a natural process we would need to look over data from over 100 years at least.
I'm well aware that linux isn't a desktop os yet. About half the laptops at the engineering college have a linux distro on them (even ibooks). Granted those are technical people. Linux, freebsd and solaris are current systems. Half the stuff you mentioned is quite dated.
NEXTSTEP is OSX so i guess apple supports it in that sense.
I guess its just a hope of mine that apple would create a linux version so i can get my mom off windows. iTunes is the only application stoping her and she can't afford a mac. I think she'd love KDE. My dad's an aol user so he's just screwed anyway.
I think there are several years in netflix as well. Bandwith is not here for dvd quality movies yet. Especially when geeks are switching to voip and other things that suck their max bandwith down. As of now, I couldn't support a phone call, my wife playing WoW and downloading a movie at teh same time on my 3mb charter cable modem package.
except console games near the end of the their life cycle fall short on graphics compared to pc releases. A three year old pc only needs a graphics card upgrade to play most newer games. Beyond three years and you're right. My original point was that a pc is more valuable because you can use it for more things than just gaming.
Your xbox 360 will not get improved graphics or sound during that 3 year period. Games however will starting pushing the limits of the hardware sooner than the 3 year period. Does the original xbox blow out a 3 year old 2000 dollar pc? I don't think so. You will also need to buy hardware for that xbox 360 during the 3 years like memory cards, etc. Its not like the spending stops. You also have the investment in xbox live time which could go into upgrading a pc.
As for the abacus comment, my freebsd router does better. Its an amd sempron 2300+ w/ 512mb ram running freebsd 6.0 release. Its rock solid. Another computer that crashes less here is my 10 year old sun sparc running solaris 2.6. It doesn't crash. Hmm.. my wife's clamshell ibook running openbsd 3.5 doesn't crash either. Hell my windows box running xp pro sp2 crashes less. (granted its a precision 650 dual xeon)
What type of macs do you run? I'd love to know the miracle macs for 10.4. As others have stated, prior to 10.4.3, tiger was a crash generator. Mail.app crashes all the time (i use imap/w ssl on 3 servers). Safari no longer supports many websites do to changes in rendering and storing cookies. I've had to switch to firefox. Games often crash on 10.4 that worked on 10.3.8 including tropico 2, railroad tycoon 3, enemy territory, rtcw, etc. Some java applications experience bad memory leaks in 10.4 that don't seem to happen nearly as much under 10.3. While it could be the app (and most likely is), the leaks are faster and more noticable. (novell groupwise client for example) Prior to 10.4.3, my system regularly crashed shutting down! bbedit crashed a lot. intellij crashed. itunes crashed. safari crashed.
My conclusion was that 1. firewire support isn't as reliable in 10.4 2. it was not a problem with my memory as i purchashed another larger chip and the same thing happened. (can't remove onboard 128mb of course) 3. Initializing the disk and loading 10.4 did solve half the problems i had. Upgrades don't work well on my system. i did backup my home direcory and restore it though. 4. its not a hardware problem other than perhaps bad support or drivers.
I've experienced problems both on my current mac (iBook G4 first gen 800mhz 640mb ram) and on 4 out of 7 PowerMac G5s at work. The other 3 along with my wife's PowerMac G4 dual 867 and her new iBook with 10.4.x preloaded seem to be stable. Only 3 of the machines listed have developer tools or anything real custom done to them.
More people ask questions on the freebsd mailing lists now than they did a few years back. The number one unix like os in the world is Mac OS X which many consider a BSD. (in terms of sales, installs) You may argue that linux is deployed more, but regardless there is a large BSD community with osx + freebsd + netbsd + openbsd +... systems out there. Apple's hardware sales are in the top 5 often espeically with with laptops. Lets say apple sells 5 percent of all personal computers (laptop/desktop). Thats 5% of all new computers with a BSD on them. In my home there are currently 5 computers running a freebsd, openbsd or mac os x install. + 5 machines with bsd right there. There are 2 users with 5 machines of 7 on bsd. The number of bsd machines in my home is growing.
I'm not expecting every processor and os architecture. I'm expecting common hosting environments that business runs on! I think enough businesses run FreeBSD on i386 to warrent a release. They support Mac OS X server dont they? How many people use that? I bet more run FreeBSD than OSX server. I say this and I am an mac os sys admin professionally.
Yes, and its great that apple supports windows and mac os. Of my seven computers, i can use iTunes on 4. Great. I don't see them running out and supporting linux, bsd or solaris though with iTunes.
The other factor is apple does not get all windows users with their iTunes support on windows. I had to upgrade my mothers 5 year old pc to xp so she could use it. (Windows ME is not supported) There are still quite a few 9x users out there who can't use iTunes.
You are right and yet oracle will not support more operating systems. FreeBSD is quite popular for webserver use. There is no oracle for freebsd. I've never been able to get a recent version to run on freebsd and its most likely their stupid specific version of the jvm is required installer. (freebsd's linux emulation)
If oracle doesn't want to die, they need to grow. MySQL releases BINARIES for freebsd. Why can't oracle?
There isn't such a thing as a secure operating system. Windows is sometimes worse off than others, but both windows and linux distros suffer from the same disease. You see, bundling a bunch of crap in an OS causes it to be insecure. In the case of windows, IE and Outlook express seem to be big culprits. In the case of linux, people running redhat 9 without upgrading their browser, gnome, etc. Install redhat enterprise linux and then count the number of rpm's you need to install from their update service in 1 month. Compare that to Microsft and Apple. You'll notice that they are about the same! Why? Because all three companies have security holes and also release newer versions of existing features through their update service. Apple and Microsoft are smart enough to bundle several patches in 1 bundle to hide the numbers now. For example, most apple patches actually include at least 5 apps or libraries that get updated. Most commonly you see openssl, openssh, apache, and samba updates. That would effect many linux distros as well.
In microsoft's defense, at least they don't bundle a webserver in the home edition of their product anymore. Lamers don't need webservers on their machines.
its great that you use linux, but don't think that you are blindly secure now. It doesn't work that way. The only thing non windows users avoid is spyware and viruses and then its only volume of them. If linux or mac os really take off, they will be attacked too.
On a side note, if your experience is from the 70s on.. why the hell aren't you using a bsd or system v unix derivative? Hell i was born in the 70s and i have bsd and solaris boxes here.
Even if the ibook is faster with the new chip, it would be dumb for apple to upgrade high end first. The OS and software aren't ready. As buggy as 10.4 is on a ppc, i doubt the intel build is going to be very stable at first. They need some patches on it before i buy a new mac with an intel chip.
Hold on.. he said powerbook g4. That could be a lot slower than 1200 mhz. I don't know if you know this, but there is a big difference in performance between an 800 mhz and 1200mhz ibook for example. If he has an early version, there is no way in hell he's going to run openoffice. Its a big bloated piece of crap.
Java apps run very fast if they are written correctly. Limewire and Intellij Idea both run very well on my ibook. I've even tried a quake 2 port in java. Works great.
As for problems with java, its got issues. The write once, run anywhere "Promise" is a big lie. Try to write a swing app and run it on windows, linux and OSX to see what i mean. Java is great on the server end simply because it does run on windows, linux and osx though. Tomcat runs on all three and thats a blessing. Now if mono would start working correctly I could switch to.NET. Python and Ruby are ok languages and could be good as web languages. Like java j2ee, asp/ASP.NET, php, perl, and whatever else they are not for everyone.
I personally hate php so much I use java. If I could afford a windows server, I would run on.NET though. The problem with php is that it is worse than java about compatibility. Java may be implemented poorly, but there isn't a 180 on the spec either. I dare you to run php 4.0 code in php 4.40. Hmm.. the environment arrays changed.. hmm.. functions behave differently? I wonder why... Now try to get mysql 4.1 to work without using old passwords. Oops. Backward API compatibility means nothing to the php folks even in a minor release. Ok back on track, the point is there are benefits to java,.NET and newer languages. Its called compatibility.
I think most OS/2 users starting migrating when it became difficult to find hardware that would actually work with OS/2. I actually own warp 3 & 4. The boxes are collecting dust in my closet because I have no hardware to run them on. If I still had my first computer (packard bell p1 100mhz), i'd probably have an install up. By the time IBM had any agp support, I was already using NT4, then linux, solaris, and now freebsd. I've moved on and its probably time others did as well. From a graphical standpoint, I think mac os is the closest fit for OS/2 users. I bought an imac 5 years ago and it was the most logical transition from OS/2. That was OS9 though.
I just wish OS/2 had been open sourced. It would have been interesting to use some of that code in a *nix desktop environment.
I'm curious how the new version will effect window managers and destkop environments like KDE and Gnome. Does anyone know if the name change (presumably directory name) will cause issues building applications, etc? Are we going to have compile headaches with existing X11 software?
These issues might effect the average linux, bsd or other *nix user.
I'm also curious on the availability and adoption of x11 r7 on *bsd and in OSX.
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Microsoft happened to sega. Microsoft sold them an OS for their last console, the dreamcast. It was the prototype xbox in reality. Now microsoft is on their second console. Another MS partner destroyed. Now sega makes games for the xbox, gamecube and ps2.
Developers don't care about download sizes. They don't think about them. Why else would iTunes be 37mb? Have you seen ati's video drivers? What about virus definitions? The last version of msn messenger?
.NET framework installed, apps are much smaller than MFC versions. I've written smaller apps (blogging client) that include ms word integration for spell check (so a bunch of dlls) and still its only 800kb. The non developer version of the .NET framework is like 21mb which is smaller than iTunes. My app and the framework are still under iTunes.
Besides, if someone does have the
One could also argue you can buy a powerpc box from IBM with linux on it. If you want linux, go to the company pushing it.
Besides how hard is it to drop in an ubuntu (or better distro) disc and install. I'm dual booting my iBook G4 right now with ubuntu and Mac OS 10.4. Aside from no airport extreme support, ubuntu supports my hardware fine. (i've never tried the modem though) I picked ubuntu because it had the easiest install directions for a mac i could find. Suse just started supporting them and fedora had no documentation at the time. I didn't feel like going through a gentoo install this time.
I find it odd that people call it the microsoft tax. Most dells are cheaper WITH windows than WITHOUT. Look at their n line or whatever without an os (freedos isn't preloaded). The machines generally cost more money than the windows counterparts. Sometimes they include a real video card (not intel), but other than that they are the same. Price used to be 100 dollars more. I haven't looked since september.
Another odd thing is this person mentioned g5's. Most dells shipped are more like iMacs in terms of quality and specs. (well apple's have better video cards across the line) You should compare Dell Precisions to G5s since they are both workstations. I'm making the assumption the person was talking about powermacs because most people don't talk about iMacs as g5s even though they do contain a g5 chip.
He's quite right. My wife can't hear me in noisy places like the supermarket anymore. It makes things quite difficult. I tend to yell and then she gets pissed off at me. Its not fun. The conversation always ends with "you know i can't hear well". Its a bitch.
I found this interesting because I switched to earbuds recently. Its hard to carry decent headphones around when going to college classes. I might need to rethink this...
MFC is quite old. Microsoft recommends using C# for gui apps now. They have for several years in fact. Pull a gui toolkit from the mid 90s for unix and i bet it sucks too.
The best OO gui toolkit/framework i can think of thats old is Cocoa in OSX/NEXTSTEP.
Browsing is slower on the mac to some degree. Safari in panther was quite peppy, but 10.4's incarnation sucks. They tried to speed it up at the price of web page compatibility and its a nightmare. I used to run KDE inside x11 on my mac (using fink) and its browser was faster. Sadly safari was based on konquerer so you'd think it would be comparable. Netscape and Firefox have always ran slow on macs. Thats why so many people loved IE on the mac. It was very fast and had a small footprint. It also crashed a lot on pages with plugins.
I'm glad its dead, but i wish apple would fix safari. I'd run the panther version if i had a copy and it would work.
Firefox runs better on Windows XP, FreeBSD and Linux than it does on OSX.
The visualization group has a next machine at my university. I got to crack the root password on it and work on it for a few hours when it was first donated. Its the best computer i've ever used. There are websites selling used ones for 500-1000 dollars if you look around. I've been half tempted to buy one. They are incredible. It is the best computer i've ever used. It felt very fast and it was one of the 68k models. Apps started like they do on my current ibook. The color reminded me of a computer several years newer. It didn't feel like a 256 color windows 3.x box from the early to mid 90s. I've never found a machine that was designed the way I think until that next box. I just wish OSX was more next like.
I always get carded and i'm 26 and married when buying at eb or gamestop. I'm in michigan.
The problem is many judges don't know what an ip address is. If an "expert" gives a definition of an ip address and how one is obtained and its not brought up about how easy it is to spoof one, she will lose.
She needs an "expert" of her own. Anyone with network security experience that the court will accept as an expert.
Hell i have a "secure" wireless access point in my apartment. I changed the password, turned on WPA2 personal, mac address limiting, and told it not to announce itself. It could still be cracked by a neighbor and used for downloads. Until the general public accepts that wireless is insecure, the RIAA has a real chance in court. Heck isps can get hacked too. I used to work for one awhile back. During my 2.5 years there, we had our dns server rooted 5 times and our mail and web servers each rooted once. Of course running bind 4 in 2000 was stupid in itself. We had spammers and people attacking other servers. One time they even replaced the ps command so we couldn't see their programs running. My old boss is living proof that an idiot setting up linux is a bad thing. At the time I ran the windows servers which did not get rooted because i was psycho about patching and disabling everything.
You don't get why people use regular expressions obviously. They are extremely useful for input validation. You do validate your input don't you? Desktop apps require it just as much as scripting or web applications. One of the joys of .NET is how easy you can create a regular expression or use built in ones (visual studio). Microsoft started pushing them for input validation because it can offer a quick way to sanitize input from sql injection and other attacks. I don't think apple developers have the same mindset about security that a MS developer has. Think about it, using a mac you forget about security. I don't run antivirus on my mac, or spyware tools and i dont' worry when i open my email or surf. On my windows machine, I worry if my virus defs and anti spyware are current or when my last scan occured. Every time I open IE, I remember that i can only go to trusted websites.
.net. Apple's got that covered. Its also incredibly easy to create an opengl window from what i've seen. Menus look better in cocoa than vb or c# as well.
.net. Cocoa is more like MFC and its obvious apple's winning there. .NET is more like java. Now maybe one could argue apple should beef up their cocoa to java bridge and document it better to compete with microsoft. Maybe they should add a third easier language to cocoa, i.e the vb for apple machines.
.NET app in managed C++ sometime. C# is java and vb is easier c#. Its like comparing real basic to C and declaring real basic easier to write a graphical text editor in.
.NET. Coming from a windows background its weird and feels like extra steps.
Nothing stops you from using a third party regular expression library like pcre. Or simply use the java - objective c bridge in cocoa to use java's regex stuff. Although java is a second class citizen, it is supported to some degree with cocoa.
As for xcode vs intellij, I would never use xcode for java after trying intellij. I use xcode for c/c++ programming all the time though. Its a great ide. I like the debugger interface as it reminds me of microsoft's vb.net debugger in some ways. One thing microsoft doesn't do is add a decent spell check library to
I don't think its fair to compare cocoa and
Objective c vs C++ is what people should be comparing here. I can see objections to syntax with objective C. It is much different than modern languages using the "." notation and so forth. My wife and I both have trouble remembering the syntax for objective C, but I haven't tried that hard to use it yet either.
If you think cocoa is so bad, try to write a
Apple could add more libraries to cocoa. That would be helpful. I personally found it confusing to connect buttons and objects in interface builder to backend code compared to
And you just did the same mistake.. 4 out of 10? To really know if this is recent or a natural process we would need to look over data from over 100 years at least.
I'm well aware that linux isn't a desktop os yet. About half the laptops at the engineering college have a linux distro on them (even ibooks). Granted those are technical people. Linux, freebsd and solaris are current systems. Half the stuff you mentioned is quite dated.
NEXTSTEP is OSX so i guess apple supports it in that sense.
I guess its just a hope of mine that apple would create a linux version so i can get my mom off windows. iTunes is the only application stoping her and she can't afford a mac. I think she'd love KDE. My dad's an aol user so he's just screwed anyway.
I think there are several years in netflix as well. Bandwith is not here for dvd quality movies yet. Especially when geeks are switching to voip and other things that suck their max bandwith down. As of now, I couldn't support a phone call, my wife playing WoW and downloading a movie at teh same time on my 3mb charter cable modem package.
except console games near the end of the their life cycle fall short on graphics compared to pc releases. A three year old pc only needs a graphics card upgrade to play most newer games. Beyond three years and you're right. My original point was that a pc is more valuable because you can use it for more things than just gaming.
Your xbox 360 will not get improved graphics or sound during that 3 year period. Games however will starting pushing the limits of the hardware sooner than the 3 year period. Does the original xbox blow out a 3 year old 2000 dollar pc? I don't think so. You will also need to buy hardware for that xbox 360 during the 3 years like memory cards, etc. Its not like the spending stops. You also have the investment in xbox live time which could go into upgrading a pc.
As for the abacus comment, my freebsd router does better. Its an amd sempron 2300+ w/ 512mb ram running freebsd 6.0 release. Its rock solid. Another computer that crashes less here is my 10 year old sun sparc running solaris 2.6. It doesn't crash. Hmm.. my wife's clamshell ibook running openbsd 3.5 doesn't crash either. Hell my windows box running xp pro sp2 crashes less. (granted its a precision 650 dual xeon)
What type of macs do you run? I'd love to know the miracle macs for 10.4. As others have stated, prior to 10.4.3, tiger was a crash generator. Mail.app crashes all the time (i use imap /w ssl on 3 servers). Safari no longer supports many websites do to changes in rendering and storing cookies. I've had to switch to firefox. Games often crash on 10.4 that worked on 10.3.8 including tropico 2, railroad tycoon 3, enemy territory, rtcw, etc. Some java applications experience bad memory leaks in 10.4 that don't seem to happen nearly as much under 10.3. While it could be the app (and most likely is), the leaks are faster and more noticable. (novell groupwise client for example) Prior to 10.4.3, my system regularly crashed shutting down! bbedit crashed a lot. intellij crashed. itunes crashed. safari crashed.
My conclusion was that
1. firewire support isn't as reliable in 10.4
2. it was not a problem with my memory as i purchashed another larger chip and the same thing happened. (can't remove onboard 128mb of course)
3. Initializing the disk and loading 10.4 did solve half the problems i had. Upgrades don't work well on my system. i did backup my home direcory and restore it though.
4. its not a hardware problem other than perhaps bad support or drivers.
I've experienced problems both on my current mac (iBook G4 first gen 800mhz 640mb ram) and on 4 out of 7 PowerMac G5s at work. The other 3 along with my wife's PowerMac G4 dual 867 and her new iBook with 10.4.x preloaded seem to be stable. Only 3 of the machines listed have developer tools or anything real custom done to them.
FUD.
... systems out there. Apple's hardware sales are in the top 5 often espeically with with laptops. Lets say apple sells 5 percent of all personal computers (laptop/desktop). Thats 5% of all new computers with a BSD on them. In my home there are currently 5 computers running a freebsd, openbsd or mac os x install. + 5 machines with bsd right there. There are 2 users with 5 machines of 7 on bsd. The number of bsd machines in my home is growing.
More people ask questions on the freebsd mailing lists now than they did a few years back. The number one unix like os in the world is Mac OS X which many consider a BSD. (in terms of sales, installs) You may argue that linux is deployed more, but regardless there is a large BSD community with osx + freebsd + netbsd + openbsd +
I'm not expecting every processor and os architecture. I'm expecting common hosting environments that business runs on! I think enough businesses run FreeBSD on i386 to warrent a release. They support Mac OS X server dont they? How many people use that? I bet more run FreeBSD than OSX server. I say this and I am an mac os sys admin professionally.
Yes, and its great that apple supports windows and mac os. Of my seven computers, i can use iTunes on 4. Great. I don't see them running out and supporting linux, bsd or solaris though with iTunes.
The other factor is apple does not get all windows users with their iTunes support on windows. I had to upgrade my mothers 5 year old pc to xp so she could use it. (Windows ME is not supported) There are still quite a few 9x users out there who can't use iTunes.
You are right and yet oracle will not support more operating systems. FreeBSD is quite popular for webserver use. There is no oracle for freebsd. I've never been able to get a recent version to run on freebsd and its most likely their stupid specific version of the jvm is required installer. (freebsd's linux emulation)
If oracle doesn't want to die, they need to grow. MySQL releases BINARIES for freebsd. Why can't oracle?
There isn't such a thing as a secure operating system. Windows is sometimes worse off than others, but both windows and linux distros suffer from the same disease. You see, bundling a bunch of crap in an OS causes it to be insecure. In the case of windows, IE and Outlook express seem to be big culprits. In the case of linux, people running redhat 9 without upgrading their browser, gnome, etc. Install redhat enterprise linux and then count the number of rpm's you need to install from their update service in 1 month. Compare that to Microsft and Apple. You'll notice that they are about the same! Why? Because all three companies have security holes and also release newer versions of existing features through their update service. Apple and Microsoft are smart enough to bundle several patches in 1 bundle to hide the numbers now. For example, most apple patches actually include at least 5 apps or libraries that get updated. Most commonly you see openssl, openssh, apache, and samba updates. That would effect many linux distros as well.
In microsoft's defense, at least they don't bundle a webserver in the home edition of their product anymore. Lamers don't need webservers on their machines.
its great that you use linux, but don't think that you are blindly secure now. It doesn't work that way. The only thing non windows users avoid is spyware and viruses and then its only volume of them. If linux or mac os really take off, they will be attacked too.
On a side note, if your experience is from the 70s on.. why the hell aren't you using a bsd or system v unix derivative? Hell i was born in the 70s and i have bsd and solaris boxes here.
Even if the ibook is faster with the new chip, it would be dumb for apple to upgrade high end first. The OS and software aren't ready. As buggy as 10.4 is on a ppc, i doubt the intel build is going to be very stable at first. They need some patches on it before i buy a new mac with an intel chip.
Hold on.. he said powerbook g4. That could be a lot slower than 1200 mhz. I don't know if you know this, but there is a big difference in performance between an 800 mhz and 1200mhz ibook for example. If he has an early version, there is no way in hell he's going to run openoffice. Its a big bloated piece of crap.
.NET. Python and Ruby are ok languages and could be good as web languages. Like java j2ee, asp/ASP.NET, php, perl, and whatever else they are not for everyone.
.NET though. The problem with php is that it is worse than java about compatibility. Java may be implemented poorly, but there isn't a 180 on the spec either. I dare you to run php 4.0 code in php 4.40. Hmm.. the environment arrays changed.. hmm.. functions behave differently? I wonder why... Now try to get mysql 4.1 to work without using old passwords. Oops. Backward API compatibility means nothing to the php folks even in a minor release. Ok back on track, the point is there are benefits to java, .NET and newer languages. Its called compatibility.
Java apps run very fast if they are written correctly. Limewire and Intellij Idea both run very well on my ibook. I've even tried a quake 2 port in java. Works great.
As for problems with java, its got issues. The write once, run anywhere "Promise" is a big lie. Try to write a swing app and run it on windows, linux and OSX to see what i mean. Java is great on the server end simply because it does run on windows, linux and osx though. Tomcat runs on all three and thats a blessing. Now if mono would start working correctly I could switch to
I personally hate php so much I use java. If I could afford a windows server, I would run on
I think most OS/2 users starting migrating when it became difficult to find hardware that would actually work with OS/2. I actually own warp 3 & 4. The boxes are collecting dust in my closet because I have no hardware to run them on. If I still had my first computer (packard bell p1 100mhz), i'd probably have an install up. By the time IBM had any agp support, I was already using NT4, then linux, solaris, and now freebsd. I've moved on and its probably time others did as well. From a graphical standpoint, I think mac os is the closest fit for OS/2 users. I bought an imac 5 years ago and it was the most logical transition from OS/2. That was OS9 though.
I just wish OS/2 had been open sourced. It would have been interesting to use some of that code in a *nix desktop environment.
I'm curious how the new version will effect window managers and destkop environments like KDE and Gnome. Does anyone know if the name change (presumably directory name) will cause issues building applications, etc? Are we going to have compile headaches with existing X11 software?
These issues might effect the average linux, bsd or other *nix user.
I'm also curious on the availability and adoption of x11 r7 on *bsd and in OSX.