Point taken. However, much of creationism doesn't work without some of the attached concepts, so those are still implicitly acknowledged.
You know, accepting SOME undeniable principles is pretty much necessary for society to work. The principle "you don't get to kill people at random" is incompatible with letting people kill each other at random, but if you don't hold it universally and enforce it, you're pretty screwed.
I never said anything against that; I merely pointed out that the Declaration of Independence (and not the Constitution, as I mistakenly wrote) wasn't written with tolerance in mind - and that that runs counter to the stance of the grand-grandparent, who said that just because the USA assume that stuff to be true that doesn't mean that everone else has to.
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Sooo... If I took a lot of paint and gave the Statue of Liberty a moustache (maybe one like Hitler wore it) there wouldn't be an outrage in the States?
"We hold these truths to be self-evident:"
We believe that this is right (even obviously so) and everyone who disagrees is wrong (and perhaps stupid).
"that all men are created equal,"
All men were created. Since we are Christians that means that all men were created by God. Since we acknowledge creation as told in the Bible we also acknowledge pretty much everything that comes eith it (creation, not the Bible).
that to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed
Any government not instituted to secure these rights or not deriving its powers from the consent of the governed has no right to exist.
Thus, anyone who is neither Christian nor has a government with the same goals as that of the United States is implicitly declared wrong, in violation of cosmic principles and perhaps intellectualy challenged.
The way those lines were worded makes it pretty evident that the constitution of the States wasn't written with a particularly open mind. They declare certain principles to be obviously and universally true, which is incompatible with letting other people have their opinions. The spirit of the Constitution might or might not have that meaning but its wording certainly does.
Also, don't forget that in Germany you can't make a video game where the player kills Nazis - there are harsh restrictions on when you are allowed to show stuff like swastikas and video games don't apply.
Some people are afraid of their history, some are afraid of sex and some are afraid of nonconformist political views. They all think they're right and everyone else thinks they're weird... I think if we'd ask everyone on the planet about every government we'd get the result that all nations are composed of insane criminals who are as immoral as they are stupid.
Well, from an European point of view, American morality looks somewhat dated - and in some cases "ass-backwards" might very well apply (I mean, you still have capital punishment). Since "ass-backwards" looks the same in any culture I suppose Americans perceive their own moral standards ass-backwards, too?
It's easy to carry spare leads with you - and if you choose a thicker (0.7 and up) and stronger (3H and up) lead you'll cut the paper before breaking the lead.
In the end it's a matter of taste - I prefer a full-metal mechanical pencil, for the razor-sharp lines, the lack of messy sharpening and the nice, heavy feel. I used to have a really swell promotional thing made from brass (very heavy and you could use the grip as a rasp), but then lost it; now I use a rotring 600, which is also made of brass but a bit lighter. Still, it's a very nice pencil and definitely worth the 20 Eurobucks I paid for it.
Unfortunately, rotring has discontinued the 600 and replaced it with the Newton, which completely forgoes the 600's simple industrial design in favor of being a designer collection. You can still buy 600s, but (especially outside of Germany) the prices might be inflated. Also notice that the rotring 600 is an entire collection. If you want the heaviest model buy the Triopen variant, which includes a pencil and two pens - but also costs a good bit more.
Interoperability with what? I had to explain to a coworker just last week (aftershe made a v8-specific PDF that no one could open)... If you just tell Acrobat to alwayssave in v4 compatible mode, everyone in the world can read it. Same goes for MS Office.Just save it Word/Excel 98 mode, and plenty of other programs can open it.
Unfortunately we're not talking aboit Microsoft Office but about interaction with Windows servers, which uses secret protocols so that no-one but Microsoft can write compatible software. That can't be solved by ticking a checkbox, it can only be solved by either making the specs accessible, giving up the software in question or not being a monopolist anymore. Making the specs available is pretty reasonable.
Or to put this another way, for a recent contracting job, I wrote a niche-industry softwarepackage that outputs a totally opaque closed format. I make the only program thatdoes anything even remotely like it. Should I expect the EU to start threatening me whenthe first copy ships to somewhere in the EU later this month for "stifling local competition"?I do so hope so, as I have no assets there that they can threaten, and gleefully lookforward to telling them to go pound sand...
Of course!...You are a monopolist that is abusing its power to keep competitors out of the market, right?
Regarding the most basic commands using the same shortcuts: That's already true, if I remember correctly. I never had trouble with a shortcut doing something unexpected.
As for the impossible requirements: Another problem is that you're lumping together the operating system, the desktop environment and some other parts of the userland. KDE will never run any Windows applications, ever. That's the job of the operating system and of WINE. KDE is responsible for presenting the user interface - the only part where KDE and WINE's jobs intersect is the presentation of Windows application GUIs. While it might be possible to write a wrapper that translates WIN32 widgets etc. to KDE stuff I think it wouldn't really work.
Anyhow, compatibility to a different OSes applications is not really part of what a desktop environment does. The holy grail of photovoltaics doesn't neutralize nuclear waste and the holy grail of desktop environments doesn't solve compatibility issues. It merely is the apexx of everything that can be achieved within the desktop environment paradigm.
Yes, that is pretty much impossible to attain, but not because of problems in entirely unrelated programs.
Not just dialog boxes, but also:
* Keyboard shortcuts
Er, no. The KDE folks can't be expected to foresee any menu entry any program might ever have and provide appropriate shortcuts for each and every localization. A graphics editor might have "Paste", "Paste as new shape", "Paste as new layer" and "Paste merged". Should KDE provide meaningful keyboard shortcuts for those entries? What about other programs with stuff like "Create new partition table", "Crack network encryption", "Generate new UGObject" or "Enable HID profile"?
And no, "I just want it for all common apps" won't cut it. What's common depends entirely on the user. Not mentioning the fact that even "common apps" of the same field have differing functions and that non-KDE applications still will be used under KDE but still don't give a shit about KDE's rules on keyboard shortcuts.
3) Was compatible with, or had feature-complete equivalents to, all software that runs on OS X or Windows, including custom-developed programs
Yet another impossible requirement. KDE isn't exactly able to just completely reverse-engineer Windows and OS X - and even if they were, various patents would mean a soon end to it. Of course one could provide functional equivalents to all software ever written for Windows and OS X, but for some reason I doubt that that's more realistic. Especially when you have completely Windows-specific apps that don't make any sense on Linux.
(By the way, that would also mean that KDE would need functional equivalents to worms like Blaster, Mydoom and even Welchia, which downloads patches from Microsoft Update. And of course CIH and its virus friends. And Bonzi Buddy, Gator etc.)
Sure, legalizing marijuana results in more use and abuse of marijuana. It does not increase the use of cocaine or meth - and it might even lower them as you no longer buy all of the stuff from the same persons. And there are a lot of studies that show marijuana as less unhealthy than tobacco (unless you happen to be stoned while driving, which can be very unhealthy - but there already are laws against that).
You will probably end up with more pot smokers, but you also get a lot of benefits (like medical use, improved quality, less money going to international crime syndicates, one entry level drug less...) that might well offset the fact that more people inhale oxidized hemp.
Yeah, they've got no chance. Because cruise missiles, nuclear submarines and railguns work real well against insurgents who are indistinguishable from regular citizens.
Really, a sufficiently large group of insurgents could take down the USA - the US Army's big shiny toys are less useful when the opponent is sitting smack in the middle of New York, Washington, every other large city in the States... And when they do start retaliatory strikes they are against people who are most probably insurgents; those who aren't insurgents but get caught up in the attacks anyway generate a lot of bad morale both in the own troops and the people.
It's all just guerilla (which is very similar to terrorism save for the fact that you do it in your own country). Rooting out a small, local group is possible, but once you have a nation-wide network of people who all look like regular citizens and who are highly coordinated you soon end up in death squad territory, where even if you do suppress the insurgency, people are going to either start a new one or flee the country in droves.
I'd say that even though the US Army is well suited to bomb the shit out of a country they couldn't take out a sufficiently large insurgency using dirty tricks like guerilla warfare.
SUSE Linux drives onscreen in some trendy hotrodded car that just barely resembles a stock model.
Debian Linux drives onscreen in a 1965 Oldsmobile Cutlass.
Gentoo Linux is sitting on the ground amidst a pile of half-assembled automobile parts, studying a construction plan with the caption emerge jeep.
SUSE: "Heh, nice cars. Debian, why don't you upgrade to a Vista?"
Debian: "How about you shove the Vista up your ass, you Microsoft-loving nonstandard piece of--"
SUSE: "Yeah, real cute. Yo, Gentoo! Maybe we could talk about how my car is better than yours some time. I mean, when you're done building it. Next February perhaps?"
Gentoo takes out a marker and prepends a USE="machinegun" to the caption of the construction plan.
How is the Semantic Web supposed to mitigate those facts? As far as I know it still relies on the site telling the world what it is about - and just like I can put "horny schoolgirls viagra playstation ponies" in an invisible <div> I can surely publish an RDF document stating that my website is about sex, naval warfare and Segways. We don't get less junk, we just get machine-readable junk.
Also, false advertisement aside, when requesting a listong of everything pertaining to, say, "Alice Cooper", how do you deal with the thirty million hits for websites that offer Alice Cooper lyrics? Of course you can construct complex queries, but that's also possible with Google.
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You are forgetting about the boy who cried "wolf". Deny or Allow?
Microsoft execs were the first against the wall when the revolution came. Mot all of us are from the same time, you insensitive clod.
Oops. Good thing my old English teacher doesn't read Slashdot...
Jefferson was a Deist, not a Christian.
Point taken. However, much of creationism doesn't work without some of the attached concepts, so those are still implicitly acknowledged.
You know, accepting SOME undeniable principles is pretty much necessary for society to work. The principle "you don't get to kill people at random" is incompatible with letting people kill each other at random, but if you don't hold it universally and enforce it, you're pretty screwed.
I never said anything against that; I merely pointed out that the Declaration of Independence (and not the Constitution, as I mistakenly wrote) wasn't written with tolerance in mind - and that that runs counter to the stance of the grand-grandparent, who said that just because the USA assume that stuff to be true that doesn't mean that everone else has to.
Sooo... If I took a lot of paint and gave the Statue of Liberty a moustache (maybe one like Hitler wore it) there wouldn't be an outrage in the States?
Someone with "Funny"=-6 in their sig makes an "in Soviet Russia" joke... That's /.'s version of an oxymoron.
There are some dangerous subtexts in there:
"We hold these truths to be self-evident:"
We believe that this is right (even obviously so) and everyone who disagrees is wrong (and perhaps stupid).
"that all men are created equal,"
All men were created. Since we are Christians that means that all men were created by God. Since we acknowledge creation as told in the Bible we also acknowledge pretty much everything that comes eith it (creation, not the Bible).
that to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed
Any government not instituted to secure these rights or not deriving its powers from the consent of the governed has no right to exist.
Thus, anyone who is neither Christian nor has a government with the same goals as that of the United States is implicitly declared wrong, in violation of cosmic principles and perhaps intellectualy challenged.
The way those lines were worded makes it pretty evident that the constitution of the States wasn't written with a particularly open mind. They declare certain principles to be obviously and universally true, which is incompatible with letting other people have their opinions. The spirit of the Constitution might or might not have that meaning but its wording certainly does.
Also, don't forget that in Germany you can't make a video game where the player kills Nazis - there are harsh restrictions on when you are allowed to show stuff like swastikas and video games don't apply.
Some people are afraid of their history, some are afraid of sex and some are afraid of nonconformist political views. They all think they're right and everyone else thinks they're weird... I think if we'd ask everyone on the planet about every government we'd get the result that all nations are composed of insane criminals who are as immoral as they are stupid.
Actually, that might not be too far off...
Well, from an European point of view, American morality looks somewhat dated - and in some cases "ass-backwards" might very well apply (I mean, you still have capital punishment). Since "ass-backwards" looks the same in any culture I suppose Americans perceive their own moral standards ass-backwards, too?
So when Leopard finally comes out we can go and visit that guy, right?
640 inches ought to be enough for anyone.
It's easy to carry spare leads with you - and if you choose a thicker (0.7 and up) and stronger (3H and up) lead you'll cut the paper before breaking the lead.
In the end it's a matter of taste - I prefer a full-metal mechanical pencil, for the razor-sharp lines, the lack of messy sharpening and the nice, heavy feel. I used to have a really swell promotional thing made from brass (very heavy and you could use the grip as a rasp), but then lost it; now I use a rotring 600, which is also made of brass but a bit lighter. Still, it's a very nice pencil and definitely worth the 20 Eurobucks I paid for it.
Unfortunately, rotring has discontinued the 600 and replaced it with the Newton, which completely forgoes the 600's simple industrial design in favor of being a designer collection. You can still buy 600s, but (especially outside of Germany) the prices might be inflated. Also notice that the rotring 600 is an entire collection. If you want the heaviest model buy the Triopen variant, which includes a pencil and two pens - but also costs a good bit more.
They're just stalling because they need to write another 4000 pages saying "in order to implement this feature, do exactly as Windows XP does".
Interoperability with what? I had to explain to a coworker just last week (aftershe made a v8-specific PDF that no one could open)... If you just tell Acrobat to alwayssave in v4 compatible mode, everyone in the world can read it. Same goes for MS Office.Just save it Word/Excel 98 mode, and plenty of other programs can open it.
...You are a monopolist that is abusing its power to keep competitors out of the market, right?
Unfortunately we're not talking aboit Microsoft Office but about interaction with Windows servers, which uses secret protocols so that no-one but Microsoft can write compatible software. That can't be solved by ticking a checkbox, it can only be solved by either making the specs accessible, giving up the software in question or not being a monopolist anymore. Making the specs available is pretty reasonable.
Or to put this another way, for a recent contracting job, I wrote a niche-industry softwarepackage that outputs a totally opaque closed format. I make the only program thatdoes anything even remotely like it. Should I expect the EU to start threatening me whenthe first copy ships to somewhere in the EU later this month for "stifling local competition"?I do so hope so, as I have no assets there that they can threaten, and gleefully lookforward to telling them to go pound sand...
Of course!
Actually, OS X 10.4 was entirely created in Photoshop and then copied over to XCode. ;)
Regarding the most basic commands using the same shortcuts: That's already true, if I remember correctly. I never had trouble with a shortcut doing something unexpected.
As for the impossible requirements: Another problem is that you're lumping together the operating system, the desktop environment and some other parts of the userland. KDE will never run any Windows applications, ever. That's the job of the operating system and of WINE. KDE is responsible for presenting the user interface - the only part where KDE and WINE's jobs intersect is the presentation of Windows application GUIs. While it might be possible to write a wrapper that translates WIN32 widgets etc. to KDE stuff I think it wouldn't really work.
Anyhow, compatibility to a different OSes applications is not really part of what a desktop environment does. The holy grail of photovoltaics doesn't neutralize nuclear waste and the holy grail of desktop environments doesn't solve compatibility issues. It merely is the apexx of everything that can be achieved within the desktop environment paradigm.
Yes, that is pretty much impossible to attain, but not because of problems in entirely unrelated programs.
I can not let that stand. As a Mac user I want you to know that we have many more pretty little icons than KDE.
Not just dialog boxes, but also: * Keyboard shortcuts
Er, no. The KDE folks can't be expected to foresee any menu entry any program might ever have and provide appropriate shortcuts for each and every localization. A graphics editor might have "Paste", "Paste as new shape", "Paste as new layer" and "Paste merged". Should KDE provide meaningful keyboard shortcuts for those entries? What about other programs with stuff like "Create new partition table", "Crack network encryption", "Generate new UGObject" or "Enable HID profile"?
And no, "I just want it for all common apps" won't cut it. What's common depends entirely on the user. Not mentioning the fact that even "common apps" of the same field have differing functions and that non-KDE applications still will be used under KDE but still don't give a shit about KDE's rules on keyboard shortcuts.
3) Was compatible with, or had feature-complete equivalents to, all software that runs on OS X or Windows, including custom-developed programs
Yet another impossible requirement. KDE isn't exactly able to just completely reverse-engineer Windows and OS X - and even if they were, various patents would mean a soon end to it. Of course one could provide functional equivalents to all software ever written for Windows and OS X, but for some reason I doubt that that's more realistic. Especially when you have completely Windows-specific apps that don't make any sense on Linux.
(By the way, that would also mean that KDE would need functional equivalents to worms like Blaster, Mydoom and even Welchia, which downloads patches from Microsoft Update. And of course CIH and its virus friends. And Bonzi Buddy, Gator etc.)
Sure, legalizing marijuana results in more use and abuse of marijuana. It does not increase the use of cocaine or meth - and it might even lower them as you no longer buy all of the stuff from the same persons. And there are a lot of studies that show marijuana as less unhealthy than tobacco (unless you happen to be stoned while driving, which can be very unhealthy - but there already are laws against that).
You will probably end up with more pot smokers, but you also get a lot of benefits (like medical use, improved quality, less money going to international crime syndicates, one entry level drug less...) that might well offset the fact that more people inhale oxidized hemp.
Yeah, they've got no chance. Because cruise missiles, nuclear submarines and railguns work real well against insurgents who are indistinguishable from regular citizens.
Really, a sufficiently large group of insurgents could take down the USA - the US Army's big shiny toys are less useful when the opponent is sitting smack in the middle of New York, Washington, every other large city in the States... And when they do start retaliatory strikes they are against people who are most probably insurgents; those who aren't insurgents but get caught up in the attacks anyway generate a lot of bad morale both in the own troops and the people.
It's all just guerilla (which is very similar to terrorism save for the fact that you do it in your own country). Rooting out a small, local group is possible, but once you have a nation-wide network of people who all look like regular citizens and who are highly coordinated you soon end up in death squad territory, where even if you do suppress the insurgency, people are going to either start a new one or flee the country in droves.
I'd say that even though the US Army is well suited to bomb the shit out of a country they couldn't take out a sufficiently large insurgency using dirty tricks like guerilla warfare.
Hey, I've got the perfect slogan for that: "Linux: Really, really easy to get." ;)
SUSE Linux drives onscreen in some trendy hotrodded car that just barely resembles a stock model.
Debian Linux drives onscreen in a 1965 Oldsmobile Cutlass.
Gentoo Linux is sitting on the ground amidst a pile of half-assembled automobile parts, studying a construction plan with the caption emerge jeep.
SUSE: "Heh, nice cars. Debian, why don't you upgrade to a Vista?"
Debian: "How about you shove the Vista up your ass, you Microsoft-loving nonstandard piece of--"
SUSE: "Yeah, real cute. Yo, Gentoo! Maybe we could talk about how my car is better than yours some time. I mean, when you're done building it. Next February perhaps?"
Gentoo takes out a marker and prepends a USE="machinegun" to the caption of the construction plan.
Linux: Because we've got one hell of a community
Don't several search functions already suggest refinements? eBay does this by, as does Google Suggest.
I don't understand why anyone pays attention to such self-serving drivel from that company.
Simple: Because we all like a good laugh once in a while and Synamtec has always been... special.
How is the Semantic Web supposed to mitigate those facts? As far as I know it still relies on the site telling the world what it is about - and just like I can put "horny schoolgirls viagra playstation ponies" in an invisible <div> I can surely publish an RDF document stating that my website is about sex, naval warfare and Segways. We don't get less junk, we just get machine-readable junk.
Also, false advertisement aside, when requesting a listong of everything pertaining to, say, "Alice Cooper", how do you deal with the thirty million hits for websites that offer Alice Cooper lyrics? Of course you can construct complex queries, but that's also possible with Google.