But, unfortunately, you seem to be right. The original poster has gone from +5, Insightful (I think) to +1, Flamebait and back up to +5, Interesting. What's a man to do?
Tell me, do you have Designed for IE6 in the corner of your site as well?
The age of web designers thinking they can control how a site looks down to the pixel is over, dude. How do you stop your visitors from using Lynx or braille or audio readers, because they don't show the site "the way it was meant to be seen".
What a complete load of absolute bollocks. HTML is a markup language: learn this and you will do well. Try to use it otherwise and you will get left behind (like Slashdot, with its creaking non-compliant HTML3 markup).
I only meant whatever the OP was referring to... which was plainly absurd, as he mentions this blind dog running after the first elk it sees... which must imply it never runs away.
That much is true... I've never used the update button for my own system, I let portage sort it all out. But some binary patching system would probably help, although it would probably require lots of patches for all the different versions. It's probably just easier for the Mozilla Foundation to just let it fetch the complete binary.
You're right, I'm gonna have real difficulty pressing those little green and red arrows in the corner of the window when the time comes for the new release. Oh boy, I'm sweating at the thought of the trials that await me! I'll probably need to lie down after that, it being so difficult and complicated and all.
Employees don't work for free... but never have anyway. To bring this up as being particularly relevant to the software industry is disingenuous. Car designers, mechanics and the people in Honda's PR department don't work for free either!
Remove the cost of employees from both sides of the equation - assuming equal outlay on each - and you're still left with car engines etc a non-zero marginal-cost good and software a (within certain tolerances) a zero marginal-cost good.
Hey, that's a nice point. I've never used anything other than qwerty but it had never fully occured to me that different languages have different requirements from their keyboards.
For typing in French, how are the accents done? Are they generally ignored, or is the keymap set up so that most of them can be done with alt-*, ctrl-*, and so on? I can't imagine French typists spend all their time looking and clicking at onscreen character maps...
I think you're wrong on the issue of RMS' opinion. Obviously I don't pretend to know his mind any more than you do but from the emphasis of his writings I'd guess that the release of the source is all he requires. It's "freedom" he's interested in.
If there's any violation of the spirit of something, it's "open source" by ESR's definition - a pragmatic attempt to share knowledge so that nobody has to reinvent the wheel. This is what Apple are being unco-operative in; but the GPL doesn't cover it and (IMO) it shouldn't.
If this hypothetical society which has invented everything before us publishes press releases for us to get an idea of what they make, *then* it will be an appropriate comparison. Until then, they're merely porting the features to a new platform/OS.
Re your sig... I agree entirely. Coming across something that is just outrageous nonsense but only really having the option of "over-rated" (troll, flamebait aren't really appropriate) doesn't really do it justice.
Yeah, but the post I was replying to complained about hardcore hippy types - of which there are very few but they fit the profile I mentioned. They *are* the ones that live in eco-friendly houses. It's not the oil barons anyway. So your 50-150k figure backs up my assertion more than refutes it.
So all those households that
use geothermal springs,
are super-insulated and made out of renewable materials,
that have solar water-heaters or even photo-cells on the rooftops,
that use energy-saver light bulbs, recycle their newspapers, bottles and cans,
that walk to the shops two minutes away instead of taking the car,
that commute using public transport... are in my imagination?
No, just because you don't do it, doesn't mean other people don't.
He didn't say anything about bands he liked... just song lyrics. I believe there's a George Michael lyric that goes "guilty feet have got no rhythm". I think that's a great line but other than that I can't stand George Michael.
I think having a community full of under-informed bedroom pontificators (which I fully admit to being a member of) discuss a matter of law is less relevant than a law professor. Especially with all the IANALs being flung left and right during any and all conversations.
I know which one may be cited if it ever came up in court. And they wouldn't need a UID to so...
The point is really whether the GPL is a valid contract between 'supplier' and 'distributor'. (I use both terms loosely because people can so easily be both with the GPL.) This validity hasn't even been tested in a US court, though it has the advantage of being written with US copyright law in mind. I don't see any reason to assume the same licence should work the world over. (Or that copyright protections are the same everywhere - look at the music industry's consternation at allofmp3.com. It's a perfectly legal Russian enterprise, as I understand it, because their copyright law makes no mention of digital copies.)
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Dude, that sounds waaay too Star Wars :)
But, unfortunately, you seem to be right. The original poster has gone from +5, Insightful (I think) to +1, Flamebait and back up to +5, Interesting. What's a man to do?
Tell me, do you have Designed for IE6 in the corner of your site as well?
The age of web designers thinking they can control how a site looks down to the pixel is over, dude. How do you stop your visitors from using Lynx or braille or audio readers, because they don't show the site "the way it was meant to be seen".
What a complete load of absolute bollocks. HTML is a markup language: learn this and you will do well. Try to use it otherwise and you will get left behind (like Slashdot, with its creaking non-compliant HTML3 markup).
I only meant whatever the OP was referring to... which was plainly absurd, as he mentions this blind dog running after the first elk it sees... which must imply it never runs away.
How exactly does he know he's running after an elk? And how does he know when he's run past it?
Thank God someone knows the correct saying! Praise be to the law of extremely large numbers!
Chicken Licken, get it right! :)
That much is true... I've never used the update button for my own system, I let portage sort it all out. But some binary patching system would probably help, although it would probably require lots of patches for all the different versions. It's probably just easier for the Mozilla Foundation to just let it fetch the complete binary.
Woe is us.
Employees don't work for free... but never have anyway. To bring this up as being particularly relevant to the software industry is disingenuous. Car designers, mechanics and the people in Honda's PR department don't work for free either!
Remove the cost of employees from both sides of the equation - assuming equal outlay on each - and you're still left with car engines etc a non-zero marginal-cost good and software a (within certain tolerances) a zero marginal-cost good.
You forgot terrorists and IP thieves.
Hey, that's a nice point. I've never used anything other than qwerty but it had never fully occured to me that different languages have different requirements from their keyboards.
For typing in French, how are the accents done? Are they generally ignored, or is the keymap set up so that most of them can be done with alt-*, ctrl-*, and so on? I can't imagine French typists spend all their time looking and clicking at onscreen character maps...
I hate to break it to you, but that would be reactive and not proactive.
I think you're wrong on the issue of RMS' opinion. Obviously I don't pretend to know his mind any more than you do but from the emphasis of his writings I'd guess that the release of the source is all he requires. It's "freedom" he's interested in.
If there's any violation of the spirit of something, it's "open source" by ESR's definition - a pragmatic attempt to share knowledge so that nobody has to reinvent the wheel. This is what Apple are being unco-operative in; but the GPL doesn't cover it and (IMO) it shouldn't.
Cheers,
Ithika.
If this hypothetical society which has invented everything before us publishes press releases for us to get an idea of what they make, *then* it will be an appropriate comparison. Until then, they're merely porting the features to a new platform/OS.
Re your sig... I agree entirely. Coming across something that is just outrageous nonsense but only really having the option of "over-rated" (troll, flamebait aren't really appropriate) doesn't really do it justice.
Ah, you don't want me to answer that, really you don't! ;)
Yeah, but the post I was replying to complained about hardcore hippy types - of which there are very few but they fit the profile I mentioned. They *are* the ones that live in eco-friendly houses. It's not the oil barons anyway. So your 50-150k figure backs up my assertion more than refutes it.
Maybe it's his name?
No, just because you don't do it, doesn't mean other people don't.
How does (did) ARexx compare with the scope of AppleScript then?
He didn't say anything about bands he liked... just song lyrics. I believe there's a George Michael lyric that goes "guilty feet have got no rhythm". I think that's a great line but other than that I can't stand George Michael.
Uh, wouldn't that *not* be moral relativism?
If all moralities are equally valid in their own context, then (according to the contexts, ie copyright law, RIAA and GPL)
o not sharing music is valid in the music world
o sharing software is valid in the software world
What is actually stated here is:
o not sharing music is *invalid* in the music world
o sharing software is valid in the software world
To rephrase the first statement to remove the double negative:
o sharing music is valid in the music world
o sharing software is valid in the software world
o therefore, sharing is valid in music *and* software
Which is (as far as the music and software industry is concerned) moral absolutism. Or have I got them confused again?
You are new here...
I know which one may be cited if it ever came up in court. And they wouldn't need a UID to so...
The point is really whether the GPL is a valid contract between 'supplier' and 'distributor'. (I use both terms loosely because people can so easily be both with the GPL.) This validity hasn't even been tested in a US court, though it has the advantage of being written with US copyright law in mind. I don't see any reason to assume the same licence should work the world over. (Or that copyright protections are the same everywhere - look at the music industry's consternation at allofmp3.com. It's a perfectly legal Russian enterprise, as I understand it, because their copyright law makes no mention of digital copies.)