Examples here in Germany:
1. Extremely high taxes on the nuclear fuel (â145 per gram of Uranium or Plutonium). Despite them, nuclear energy stays profitable and has never received a single cent of subsidies.
2. Extremely high taxes on gasoline and diesel fuel, which currently constitute about 60% of the end price, or about 90 Eurocents per liter
3. Taxes levied on electricity contain a special tax that goes to renewable energy subsidies. Currently this tax is about 3.5 Eurocents/kWh. About 2/3 of this tax are for solar power subsidies only, which provides about 1% of total electricity generation.
Get your facts straight. Fossil fuels are never subsidized, but instead heavily taxed by the governments. Solar and wind power however are only possible with enormous subsidies yet still can't produce energy on their own and require 100% backup capacity by conventional plants.
And on the other side we have:
- Global Warming is happening
- Opps, it's not Global Warming, it should be called Climate Change, since warming can be actually cooling, and such
- We cannot afford that something happens
- Even if nothing happens, we benefit from the transition to the Green stuff (well, YOU benefit, what about the rest of the people?)
FYI: Siemens started building Busher NPP back in the 70's Current plant uses Russian reactor, but they fitted it for the infrastructure and other components built by Siemens back then.
Sadly, it's already in preparation, too. Russian Gazprom is actively looking into buying Germany's stricken electricity producers, so they can start directly selling electricity from gas.
That would be additional positive factor. No solar panels -> no uncontrollable power input -> no additional storage and powerlines needed -> saved even more money. No solar panel production -> no additional toxic emissions and power consumption during production, no toxic waste to take care of when they reach their end of life..
In Germany, a job in the green energy sector costs approximately 150 thousand euros per year, if you divide the amount of subsidies per number of jobs created. For 150 thousand euros per year, one could create 3 "jobs" with a respectable 50000 €/year income, and simply allow these 3 people sit around on their ass the whole day, doing nothing. Thus, it's not "1 job created", it's "at least 2 jobs destroyed".
Highest number of jobs per megawatt simply means - it requires most workforce to achieve same effect compared to other energy production forms. In other words, it's the most expensive.
The fuel rods are typically used for 3-4 years and go through several planned or emergency shutdowns, so normal SCRAM procedure does not make fuel unusable. A stopped reactor cannot be immediately restarted though, because of presence of neutron poisons such as Xe-135. While the chain reaction is still running, the neutron production is sufficient to overcome this barrier, but from a complete shutdown it's not easily possible. Chernobyl explosion was actually caused by an attempt to restart the reactor which was almost accidentally stopped (it was only supposed to go down to 50% output, but went to 5-10% by mistake) by removing all control rods in an attempt to restart the reaction, which it did, uncontrollably.
Boron injection however will require replacing the water and thorough cleaning:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SCRAM
This concern is especially significant in a BWR, where injection of liquid boron would cause precipitation of solid boron compounds on fuel cladding, which would prevent the reactor from restarting until the boron deposits were removed.
This is not a "random website data", but official data from the 4 grid providers of Germany. Each of them is providing statistics on the power flows from and to their zone via German border. If you add statistics on import and export for all 4 providers, you get total export and import flows for all lines crossing the border.
Judging from Switzerland's statistics about the German imports and exports is speculative at best. The flows between Germany and Switzerland change all the time, probably because of pumped storage use.
It's difficult to correlate at the instant moment, since Amprion's data has one week delay - they have some connections to Switzerland, and so does Tennet. Right now swissgrid shows >300MW transmission to Germany. Oh wait, it just keeps climbing to 500! Just this morning, EnBW has been importing over 900 from Switzerland and over 1700MW from France, but at the same time sending 700MW to Austria.
Are there backlog statistics from Swissgrid? The German providers are required by law to provide them, Swissgrid apparently doesn't.
Flows from France and Czech Republic however are pretty stable these days - always direction Germany.
Wow, buddy, trolling hard today, huh? > In der unten angezeigten Tabelle entsprechen negative Werte der Richtung DE–AT/CH/FR bzw. positive Werte der Richtung AT/CH/FR-DE. Today, we have about 1.2-1.7GW flowing from France to Germany, 0.3-0.5 GW from Switzerland to Germany, and ahhh, here we go - ~0.7GW from Germany to Austria. That's 1.2GW net import - a large NPP. And the reason is - Austria banned nuclear power long time ago, so it constantly has to import some from Czech. Now that Germany also pulls some from there, they have to get more from France, via Germany.
Sure, the whole picture needs to be seen, and it's necessary to correlate this data with other three zones. It's not easy, some of them get their data delayed by few days, the inport/export direction is not always clear, etc. But in total, there's a net import.
They you are quite misinformed. The 1-stage waste is what comes out of the NPP - spent nuclear fuel. Which still mostly consists of uranium, plus plutonium, other actinides and many short-lived products. During reprocessing, uranium and plutonium are extracted in PUREX or similar processes and later reused for MOX fuel. Some actinides with shorted half-lives can be extracted for specialized applications, e.g. for use in RTGs. What is left after this reprocessing is the 2-stage waste, which is typically 1-2% of the original volume and is not usable. This waste is vitrified and transported back to Germany for intermediate storage. Due to short half-life, this waste is very active and needs to spend another 20+ years in CASTOR containers for controlled cooldown until it can be loaded to POLLUX containers and put to permanent storage. Due to high activity, this waste's activity falls down to levels of natural radioactive ores within ~1000 years.
What red-green government did is, it banned fuel reprocessing for all spent fuel produced in Germany from 2005. More precisely, the law states that spent nuclear fuel may not be disassembled and must be put into permanent storage as is. This increases the volume of waste, wastes fuel and increases the time the waste stay active underground to hundreds of thousands of years due to plutonium.
Three very convenient problems created at once, all for the benefit of the greens and zero use for people.
1. The nuclear waste is not exported to France, it's only brought there for reprocessing and then the concentrated and vitrified waste is returned to Germany. 2. The reason why the waste has to be carted through half Europe is that left-extreme activists prevented the building of our own reprocessing facility in Wackersdorf. 3. Little known fact, but in 2005 red-green government banned nuclear fuel reprocessing, so the volume of produced waste can be so artificially kept at 50-100-fold from normal. 4. Little known fact, but again, red-green government prohibited search for a nuclear waste storage, so they can claim such problem exists.
Greens need nuclear waste problem so badly they had to create it. There's no technical issues with nuclear waste, only political ones. And every single of them for created either by SPD or the greens.
> Germany is pushing hard on the green front, entire towns are off the grid now. Now, now, let's not spread such bullshit. Not a single town allegedly powered by "renewables" is capable of doing so without grid connection. If they go offline, they will go dark.
Since the moratorium was enforced, Germany has not been a net exporter even for a single day. Currently, there's about 2GW imported to Germany via Amprion (mostly from France), 1GW via Tennet (mostly Czech) and 1-1.5GW via EnBW (mostly France) and some 1.5-2.5GW via 50Hertz (mostly Czech). That's some 10% of total consumption. Starting tomorrow, the imports will increase by another 0.5-1GW, as NPP Emsland went offline for periodic inspection this weekend
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Examples here in Germany:
1. Extremely high taxes on the nuclear fuel (â145 per gram of Uranium or Plutonium). Despite them, nuclear energy stays profitable and has never received a single cent of subsidies.
2. Extremely high taxes on gasoline and diesel fuel, which currently constitute about 60% of the end price, or about 90 Eurocents per liter
3. Taxes levied on electricity contain a special tax that goes to renewable energy subsidies. Currently this tax is about 3.5 Eurocents/kWh. About 2/3 of this tax are for solar power subsidies only, which provides about 1% of total electricity generation.
Get your facts straight. Fossil fuels are never subsidized, but instead heavily taxed by the governments.
Solar and wind power however are only possible with enormous subsidies yet still can't produce energy on their own and require 100% backup capacity by conventional plants.
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And on the other side we have: - Global Warming is happening - Opps, it's not Global Warming, it should be called Climate Change, since warming can be actually cooling, and such - We cannot afford that something happens - Even if nothing happens, we benefit from the transition to the Green stuff (well, YOU benefit, what about the rest of the people?)
FYI: Siemens started building Busher NPP back in the 70's
Current plant uses Russian reactor, but they fitted it for the infrastructure and other components built by Siemens back then.
Sadly, it's already in preparation, too. Russian Gazprom is actively looking into buying Germany's stricken electricity producers, so they can start directly selling electricity from gas.
That would be additional positive factor. No solar panels -> no uncontrollable power input -> no additional storage and powerlines needed -> saved even more money. No solar panel production -> no additional toxic emissions and power consumption during production, no toxic waste to take care of when they reach their end of life..
In Germany, a job in the green energy sector costs approximately 150 thousand euros per year, if you divide the amount of subsidies per number of jobs created. For 150 thousand euros per year, one could create 3 "jobs" with a respectable 50000 €/year income, and simply allow these 3 people sit around on their ass the whole day, doing nothing. Thus, it's not "1 job created", it's "at least 2 jobs destroyed".
Highest number of jobs per megawatt simply means - it requires most workforce to achieve same effect compared to other energy production forms. In other words, it's the most expensive.
Oh, ok, I stand corrected.
And still no analog to ssh's "-D" option
You wouldn't buy a used car...
The fuel rods are typically used for 3-4 years and go through several planned or emergency shutdowns, so normal SCRAM procedure does not make fuel unusable. A stopped reactor cannot be immediately restarted though, because of presence of neutron poisons such as Xe-135. While the chain reaction is still running, the neutron production is sufficient to overcome this barrier, but from a complete shutdown it's not easily possible. Chernobyl explosion was actually caused by an attempt to restart the reactor which was almost accidentally stopped (it was only supposed to go down to 50% output, but went to 5-10% by mistake) by removing all control rods in an attempt to restart the reaction, which it did, uncontrollably.
Boron injection however will require replacing the water and thorough cleaning:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SCRAM
This concern is especially significant in a BWR, where injection of liquid boron would cause precipitation of solid boron compounds on fuel cladding, which would prevent the reactor from restarting until the boron deposits were removed.
This is not a "random website data", but official data from the 4 grid providers of Germany. Each of them is providing statistics on the power flows from and to their zone via German border. If you add statistics on import and export for all 4 providers, you get total export and import flows for all lines crossing the border.
Judging from Switzerland's statistics about the German imports and exports is speculative at best. The flows between Germany and Switzerland change all the time, probably because of pumped storage use.
It's difficult to correlate at the instant moment, since Amprion's data has one week delay - they have some connections to Switzerland, and so does Tennet. Right now swissgrid shows >300MW transmission to Germany. Oh wait, it just keeps climbing to 500! Just this morning, EnBW has been importing over 900 from Switzerland and over 1700MW from France, but at the same time sending 700MW to Austria.
Are there backlog statistics from Swissgrid? The German providers are required by law to provide them, Swissgrid apparently doesn't.
Flows from France and Czech Republic however are pretty stable these days - always direction Germany.
Wow, buddy, trolling hard today, huh?
> In der unten angezeigten Tabelle entsprechen negative Werte der Richtung DE–AT/CH/FR bzw. positive Werte der Richtung AT/CH/FR-DE.
Today, we have about 1.2-1.7GW flowing from France to Germany, 0.3-0.5 GW from Switzerland to Germany, and ahhh, here we go - ~0.7GW from Germany to Austria. That's 1.2GW net import - a large NPP. And the reason is - Austria banned nuclear power long time ago, so it constantly has to import some from Czech. Now that Germany also pulls some from there, they have to get more from France, via Germany.
Sure, the whole picture needs to be seen, and it's necessary to correlate this data with other three zones. It's not easy, some of them get their data delayed by few days, the inport/export direction is not always clear, etc. But in total, there's a net import.
Maybe you should add the numbers from all sources and see what happens in march
They you are quite misinformed.
The 1-stage waste is what comes out of the NPP - spent nuclear fuel. Which still mostly consists of uranium, plus plutonium, other actinides and many short-lived products. During reprocessing, uranium and plutonium are extracted in PUREX or similar processes and later reused for MOX fuel. Some actinides with shorted half-lives can be extracted for specialized applications, e.g. for use in RTGs. What is left after this reprocessing is the 2-stage waste, which is typically 1-2% of the original volume and is not usable. This waste is vitrified and transported back to Germany for intermediate storage. Due to short half-life, this waste is very active and needs to spend another 20+ years in CASTOR containers for controlled cooldown until it can be loaded to POLLUX containers and put to permanent storage. Due to high activity, this waste's activity falls down to levels of natural radioactive ores within ~1000 years.
What red-green government did is, it banned fuel reprocessing for all spent fuel produced in Germany from 2005. More precisely, the law states that spent nuclear fuel may not be disassembled and must be put into permanent storage as is. This increases the volume of waste, wastes fuel and increases the time the waste stay active underground to hundreds of thousands of years due to plutonium.
Three very convenient problems created at once, all for the benefit of the greens and zero use for people.
1. The nuclear waste is not exported to France, it's only brought there for reprocessing and then the concentrated and vitrified waste is returned to Germany.
2. The reason why the waste has to be carted through half Europe is that left-extreme activists prevented the building of our own reprocessing facility in Wackersdorf.
3. Little known fact, but in 2005 red-green government banned nuclear fuel reprocessing, so the volume of produced waste can be so artificially kept at 50-100-fold from normal.
4. Little known fact, but again, red-green government prohibited search for a nuclear waste storage, so they can claim such problem exists.
Greens need nuclear waste problem so badly they had to create it. There's no technical issues with nuclear waste, only political ones. And every single of them for created either by SPD or the greens.
Green bullshit. Germany imports electricity like crazy since the moratorium.
There are the hard numbers on how much power is transmitted over the border and from where, so no need for speculations:
http://www.tennettso.de/pages/tennettso_de/Transparenz/Veroeffentlichungen/Netzkennzahlen/Grenzueberschreitende_Lastfluesse__abgestimmte_Fahrplaene/index.htm
http://www.amprion.net/grenzueberschreitende-lastfluesse
http://www.enbw-transportnetze.de/kennzahlen/grenzueberschreitende-lastfluesse-und-fahrplaene/
http://www.50hertz-transmission.net/de/119.htm
Stop spreading your green bullshit. Currently, Germany is importing around 10% of the consumed electricity. Mostly from France and Checz Republic, i.e. nuclear. No need to believe me, just see the data yourself:
http://www.tennettso.de/pages/tennettso_de/Transparenz/Veroeffentlichungen/Netzkennzahlen/Grenzueberschreitende_Lastfluesse__abgestimmte_Fahrplaene/index.htm
http://www.amprion.net/grenzueberschreitende-lastfluesse
http://www.enbw-transportnetze.de/kennzahlen/grenzueberschreitende-lastfluesse-und-fahrplaene/
http://www.50hertz-transmission.net/de/119.htm
> Germany is pushing hard on the green front, entire towns are off the grid now.
Now, now, let's not spread such bullshit. Not a single town allegedly powered by "renewables" is capable of doing so without grid connection. If they go offline, they will go dark.
Only when most nuclear plants are running. Currently this is not the case and Germany imports nuclear power from France and Czech Republic.
Since the moratorium was enforced, Germany has not been a net exporter even for a single day. Currently, there's about 2GW imported to Germany via Amprion (mostly from France), 1GW via Tennet (mostly Czech) and 1-1.5GW via EnBW (mostly France) and some 1.5-2.5GW via 50Hertz (mostly Czech). That's some 10% of total consumption. Starting tomorrow, the imports will increase by another 0.5-1GW, as NPP Emsland went offline for periodic inspection this weekend
You can see the realtime stats on electricity imports and exports for the 4 German grid providers :
http://www.tennettso.de/pages/tennettso_de/Transparenz/Veroeffentlichungen/Netzkennzahlen/Grenzueberschreitende_Lastfluesse__abgestimmte_Fahrplaene/index.htm
http://www.amprion.net/grenzueberschreitende-lastfluesse
http://www.enbw-transportnetze.de/kennzahlen/grenzueberschreitende-lastfluesse-und-fahrplaene/
http://www.50hertz-transmission.net/de/119.htm