I think it is strange that someone who pretends to know something about computers would think that additional lines of comments in source code will result in a larger executable.
The difference in IE7 is that MS is an abusive, illegal monopoly and this is just another way to maintain and they hope it might even expand their monopoly. Other browsers may play fovorites but not having anything close to a monopoly they are held to different standards.
If you install firefox 1.5rc1 or newer I think you will find auto-update works ok. It is much easier to update firefox or extensions. I would never let naive users run IE on the open net. There are too many vulnerabilities which have been open for years like captiveX. See for yourself how many virus, spyware and other malware just don't propagate even on MSWindows if you don't use IE, MSOffice or Outlook/Exchange. You can't kludge security into an operating environment, someone needs to do the basic design with security and networking in mind.
Obviously you have never tried to read a really old tape or you would know why you need open formats which are unemcumbered by patents and well documented. DOC format is not well documented outside MS for a well known reason, lockin protects their market. If you only need read access PDF is probably fine. MS can break your access to their file formats and will anytime it suits their purpose. If you can't control the format you don't own your data.
What? He didn't even invent that silly keyboard? Now I have no respect at all for the guy. But on the security sales why not just charge MS a set fee for each user for each vulnerability. They should not sell a kludged OS.
Dan C
I can't believe that you claim to be an admin but couldn't find qa.mandriva.com. You can generate a new bug report, query for existing bugs or just read the docs about how the system works. How can it get easier than that? Bugzilla is pretty mature and easy to use. I don't think anyone has a more open development process than Mandriva.
DC
Your figures seem low compared to other monitoring sites. And what do they say about browser use in Europe, Australia and Asia? Here are some figures from XTI check the link for details. I expect to see use in Asia and South America climb very soon.
Australia 14.4 %
Europe 14.1%
North America 11.8%
Asia 5.8%
South America 5.2%
Africa 4.3%
some of the national figures in Europe are very high
Finland 31%
Germany 24.5%
Tcheque Rep 22.4%
http://www.xitimonitor.com/etudes/equipement10.asp
It does not sound like many police need an office suite but the real issue is who owns the data. Any rational person will realize that if you use Microsoft products and protocols they own your data and can hold it hostage for more money in the future. I think OOo 1.9+ would handle almost any need the police could have for an office suite but it should be used only where needed. The first thing they should do is require Microsoft and all other vendors to support and use open formats and protocols for any program used by the department and of course on a larger scale the goverment. If Microsoft meets that requirement then you can talk about other issues. Of course FOSS and/or other legacy vendors should be held to the same open standard. As it is they are subject to cyberterrorism anytime MS wants to raise prices or just assert their power. It sounds like they could have handled this better by switching everyone to OOo and the new open office standard formats. Then all the data could be safe, secure and open.
Strange you would choose to install ext2. I have used rieserfs or ext3 on mandrake since about 7.2. Maybe it was 8.1 but that was very long ago. You didn't bother to read the release notes did you?
DC
Nah. I'm hoping that IBM or Novell is awarded the entirety of the SCO business, and that they release the whole of UNIX into the public domain.
I think if you look a little deeper you will find that X/Open -> now The Open Group owns the UNIX specs and name and the other court cases will not impact them much. Now if you mean Unix, those are owned by the companies or groups that developed them. It looks like Novell sold most rights except copyrights of their version of Unix to oldSCO. I think SCO would be in big trouble for failure to pass 95% of license fees on to Novell as per contract but SCO can't get much deeper in trouble until the ringleaders are in federal prison.
AC said "Take installation. Linux zealots are now saying "oh installing is so easy, just do apt-get install package or emerge package": Yes, because typing in "apt-get" or "emerge" makes so much more sense to new users than double-clicking an icon that says "setup"."
Have you ever tried Linux? In the last five years and maybe one of the "LiveCD" distros? Really this is like someone complaining that they don't like MS because they can't understand EDLIN. Don't get me started on how intuitive editing the registry is to all those grannies aout there. I used to work with some DOS dinks who were always throwing out anti-Unix idiocies which anyone who used a Sun system within the last few years knew there was an element of truth at one time in the past but not recently. MS fudders are now using the same sort of arguments against Linux. If you can not get Mandrake, now Mandriva or one of the LiveCD distros to work for you easily you need to box up your computer, return it to the store and tell them you need a refund because you are too stupid to use a computer.
Paul skips over several requirements for SCOX to have a valid case. They must prove they own copyright. Must show copyright to which code ATT might have transfered to Novell. Must show Novell transfered copyright to oldSCO. Must show old SCO transfered copyright to newSCO. Must show newSCO owns copyright to code that IBM developed. Must show Linux contains code that infringes protected code from newSCO. Instead he raises completely irrelavant arguments as if newSCO owns appropriate copyrights so these technologies must be reverse engineered. Where are the documents for all of these tranfers and most important of all when did IBM transfer copyright for code it develped to either oldSCO or newSCO. What a worthless article.
When we get to see a legitimate code audit of all MS products we will see who the real pirates are. It is well known that Microsoft is the world's largest pirate and that it hates competition. Well the end is near for that dinosaur who will be the next challenger? Why do you think they will not show you the code?
The traditional hunting that you referring to is only done with animals (dogs, hawks, etc). What N. Americans generally refer to as hunting is called shooting.
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Totally wrong man was doing trditional hunting long before he domesticated animals. Often hunting in bands early man used spears, arrows, sharpened sticks, rocks, deadfalls or whatever came to hand or could be fashioned from his environment. Man is not the warm and fuzzy creature you think he is.
You should never give money to a terrorist. What is the purpose of indemnity? Does SCO own any copyrights to System V Unix? A lot of people want to know. It seems unlikely that SCO owns any copyright to IBM's code but you never know with certainty what a judge will do. I think if SCO had any real hope in the courtroom they would not talk so loudly to the press. I am not altogether on IBM's, Red Hat's or Novell's side but none of them make several outlandish press announcements a week while they let their business go down the sewer. It may take a long time but when this is done SCO and Darl will be very dead. If Novell really gets 95% of license sales and lawyers get 20% what does Darl get? It doesn't look good for the stockholders.
I think Sun made a mistake calling this distro Java xxxx but you can tell how many have tried it. I always found it amusing years ago when some DOS dink would tell me about the problems with Unix or Solaris. "You have to recompile all the time" - yeah at the time it had been a few years since I had recompile a Sun kernel. I could have turned around and complained about edlin. Same thing now with Linux on the desktop. How many of the arguments against it are legitimate? We even see managers from HP, IBM, Linux World and Red Hat saying linux is not ready for the desktop. What distro did they try and when. I use Mandrake but I bet there are at least six distros ready for home or enterprise desktop use today. Sun has always been good at large computing enviroinments and I hope they roll these out without much trouble. I see they are making deals where they just replace M$O with OO.o or StarOffice as well. Go Sun! Cut off Billy Bob's air supply.
Hops and cannabis are both closely related monotypic genii. My botony text says you can plant cannabis for rootstock then graft hops onto them. Warning soft herbs like hops and cannabis are much more difficult to graft than fruit trees. Your legal liability for use of this technique is on your own head the same as if I told you how to make a dirty bomb.
Looks to me like he only grafted tomatoe on tabaco rootstocks. A hybrid would be an actual genetic cross between the two. I have never done it but have seen in botony books that you can do much the same with cannabis rootstock and hops. Both are a closely related monotypic genus. You would be in deep doo doo if someone caught you growing this kind of hops to brew your beer with. After you harvested the hops and destroyed the hemp roots I do not know what would happen if the FDA or DEA wanted to check your beer! This is a clear case where IANAL. Get competent legal advice before you try such a scheme. You can probably find criminal monkeys in India to do initial testing. don't blame me for any trouble they get into.
Sure you could only promote free music but why not go all the way and boycott all recorded music and hurt RIAA where it counts. Make them stop pirating music before you buy another CD.
I didn't do any beta's this time around but I started a download the first day it was available. Bittorrent worked very well for me but a few people seemed to have problems. 9.2 is working very well on my two home systems here. I don't have much respect for a h/w vendor who doesn't release spec to interface. I have no respect for a manufacturer who releases h/w which can be destroyed by software. Looks like they should start a recall on all these CD drives but I bet they don't even let buyers know they are defective.
I am sure they did not include all the significant factors. Security? Own your own data or have to ransom it from MS someday? Cheaper admin, one good
admin can replace 4 MCSE. I suspect the costs for MS will come down when they actually have to compete but that remains to be seen.
300 Megabucks is big money to me or you but small change in this league. Korea, China, Japan and India running OSS on open standards protocols will make a huge difference for the world. A distro like Mandrake is already easier, faster and more reliable than closed source slop from Redmond. Add enough market and you will find much better device drivers, office suites and interfaces to all the home electronics. I don't think closed source should be outlawed though. There are some honest and reliable closed source vendors. If they use open standards it is not that bad to interoperate. Even if Microsoft was no cost it is too expensive for the quality and security.
DC
Nothing new here. MS wants to use a 50 cent CD and a couple bucks worth of docs to pay off about 300 or 400 dollars worth of settlement at a whack. It is like being a counterfieter except the courts often back MS on this shady exchange. Lindows wants to get in on the action and get a bit of the settlement. I can't see much wrong with that. I haven't cared much for Lindows but they do some creative marketing. More power to Lindows if they can make it work. We all know the only thing MS has going is agressive (anti-competitive) marketing and legal. let MS take their own medicine. I only regret that the lawyers will get the biggest piece of the action as usual.
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I think it is strange that someone who pretends to know something about computers would think that additional lines of comments in source code will result in a larger executable.
The difference in IE7 is that MS is an abusive, illegal monopoly and this is just another way to maintain and they hope it might even expand their monopoly. Other browsers may play fovorites but not having anything close to a monopoly they are held to different standards.
If you install firefox 1.5rc1 or newer I think you will find auto-update works ok. It is much easier to update firefox or extensions. I would never let naive users run IE on the open net. There are too many vulnerabilities which have been open for years like captiveX. See for yourself how many virus, spyware and other malware just don't propagate even on MSWindows if you don't use IE, MSOffice or Outlook/Exchange. You can't kludge security into an operating environment, someone needs to do the basic design with security and networking in mind.
Obviously you have never tried to read a really old tape or you would know why you need open formats which are unemcumbered by patents and well documented. DOC format is not well documented outside MS for a well known reason, lockin protects their market. If you only need read access PDF is probably fine. MS can break your access to their file formats and will anytime it suits their purpose. If you can't control the format you don't own your data.
What? He didn't even invent that silly keyboard? Now I have no respect at all for the guy. But on the security sales why not just charge MS a set fee for each user for each vulnerability. They should not sell a kludged OS. Dan C
I can't believe that you claim to be an admin but couldn't find qa.mandriva.com. You can generate a new bug report, query for existing bugs or just read the docs about how the system works. How can it get easier than that? Bugzilla is pretty mature and easy to use. I don't think anyone has a more open development process than Mandriva. DC
Your figures seem low compared to other monitoring sites. And what do they say about browser use in Europe, Australia and Asia? Here are some figures from XTI check the link for details. I expect to see use in Asia and South America climb very soon. Australia 14.4 % Europe 14.1% North America 11.8% Asia 5.8% South America 5.2% Africa 4.3% some of the national figures in Europe are very high Finland 31% Germany 24.5% Tcheque Rep 22.4% http://www.xitimonitor.com/etudes/equipement10.asp
It does not sound like many police need an office suite but the real issue is who owns the data. Any rational person will realize that if you use Microsoft products and protocols they own your data and can hold it hostage for more money in the future. I think OOo 1.9+ would handle almost any need the police could have for an office suite but it should be used only where needed. The first thing they should do is require Microsoft and all other vendors to support and use open formats and protocols for any program used by the department and of course on a larger scale the goverment. If Microsoft meets that requirement then you can talk about other issues. Of course FOSS and/or other legacy vendors should be held to the same open standard. As it is they are subject to cyberterrorism anytime MS wants to raise prices or just assert their power. It sounds like they could have handled this better by switching everyone to OOo and the new open office standard formats. Then all the data could be safe, secure and open.
Strange you would choose to install ext2. I have used rieserfs or ext3 on mandrake since about 7.2. Maybe it was 8.1 but that was very long ago. You didn't bother to read the release notes did you? DC
Nah. I'm hoping that IBM or Novell is awarded the entirety of the SCO business, and that they release the whole of UNIX into the public domain.
I think if you look a little deeper you will find that X/Open -> now The Open Group owns the UNIX specs and name and the other court cases will not impact them much. Now if you mean Unix, those are owned by the companies or groups that developed them. It looks like Novell sold most rights except copyrights of their version of Unix to oldSCO. I think SCO would be in big trouble for failure to pass 95% of license fees on to Novell as per contract but SCO can't get much deeper in trouble until the ringleaders are in federal prison.
Have you ever tried Linux? In the last five years and maybe one of the "LiveCD" distros? Really this is like someone complaining that they don't like MS because they can't understand EDLIN. Don't get me started on how intuitive editing the registry is to all those grannies aout there. I used to work with some DOS dinks who were always throwing out anti-Unix idiocies which anyone who used a Sun system within the last few years knew there was an element of truth at one time in the past but not recently. MS fudders are now using the same sort of arguments against Linux. If you can not get Mandrake, now Mandriva or one of the LiveCD distros to work for you easily you need to box up your computer, return it to the store and tell them you need a refund because you are too stupid to use a computer.
Paul skips over several requirements for SCOX to have a valid case. They must prove they own copyright. Must show copyright to which code ATT might have transfered to Novell. Must show Novell transfered copyright to oldSCO. Must show old SCO transfered copyright to newSCO. Must show newSCO owns copyright to code that IBM developed. Must show Linux contains code that infringes protected code from newSCO. Instead he raises completely irrelavant arguments as if newSCO owns appropriate copyrights so these technologies must be reverse engineered. Where are the documents for all of these tranfers and most important of all when did IBM transfer copyright for code it develped to either oldSCO or newSCO. What a worthless article.
When we get to see a legitimate code audit of all MS products we will see who the real pirates are. It is well known that Microsoft is the world's largest pirate and that it hates competition. Well the end is near for that dinosaur who will be the next challenger? Why do you think they will not show you the code?
The traditional hunting that you referring to is only done with animals (dogs, hawks, etc). What N. Americans generally refer to as hunting is called shooting.
**
Totally wrong man was doing trditional hunting long before he domesticated animals. Often hunting in bands early man used spears, arrows, sharpened sticks, rocks, deadfalls or whatever came to hand or could be fashioned from his environment. Man is not the warm and fuzzy creature you think he is.
You should never give money to a terrorist. What is the purpose of indemnity? Does SCO own any copyrights to System V Unix? A lot of people want to know. It seems unlikely that SCO owns any copyright to IBM's code but you never know with certainty what a judge will do. I think if SCO had any real hope in the courtroom they would not talk so loudly to the press. I am not altogether on IBM's, Red Hat's or Novell's side but none of them make several outlandish press announcements a week while they let their business go down the sewer. It may take a long time but when this is done SCO and Darl will be very dead. If Novell really gets 95% of license sales and lawyers get 20% what does Darl get? It doesn't look good for the stockholders.
I think Sun made a mistake calling this distro Java xxxx but you can tell how many have tried it. I always found it amusing years ago when some DOS dink would tell me about the problems with Unix or Solaris. "You have to recompile all the time" - yeah at the time it had been a few years since I had recompile a Sun kernel. I could have turned around and complained about edlin. Same thing now with Linux on the desktop. How many of the arguments against it are legitimate? We even see managers from HP, IBM, Linux World and Red Hat saying linux is not ready for the desktop. What distro did they try and when. I use Mandrake but I bet there are at least six distros ready for home or enterprise desktop use today. Sun has always been good at large computing enviroinments and I hope they roll these out without much trouble. I see they are making deals where they just replace M$O with OO.o or StarOffice as well. Go Sun! Cut off Billy Bob's air supply.
Hops and cannabis are both closely related monotypic genii. My botony text says you can plant cannabis for rootstock then graft hops onto them. Warning soft herbs like hops and cannabis are much more difficult to graft than fruit trees. Your legal liability for use of this technique is on your own head the same as if I told you how to make a dirty bomb.
Looks to me like he only grafted tomatoe on tabaco rootstocks. A hybrid would be an actual genetic cross between the two. I have never done it but have seen in botony books that you can do much the same with cannabis rootstock and hops. Both are a closely related monotypic genus. You would be in deep doo doo if someone caught you growing this kind of hops to brew your beer with. After you harvested the hops and destroyed the hemp roots I do not know what would happen if the FDA or DEA wanted to check your beer! This is a clear case where IANAL. Get competent legal advice before you try such a scheme. You can probably find criminal monkeys in India to do initial testing. don't blame me for any trouble they get into.
Sure you could only promote free music but why not go all the way and boycott all recorded music and hurt RIAA where it counts. Make them stop pirating music before you buy another CD.
I didn't do any beta's this time around but I started a download the first day it was available. Bittorrent worked very well for me but a few people seemed to have problems. 9.2 is working very well on my two home systems here. I don't have much respect for a h/w vendor who doesn't release spec to interface. I have no respect for a manufacturer who releases h/w which can be destroyed by software. Looks like they should start a recall on all these CD drives but I bet they don't even let buyers know they are defective.
I am sure they did not include all the significant factors. Security? Own your own data or have to ransom it from MS someday? Cheaper admin, one good admin can replace 4 MCSE. I suspect the costs for MS will come down when they actually have to compete but that remains to be seen.
300 Megabucks is big money to me or you but small change in this league. Korea, China, Japan and India running OSS on open standards protocols will make a huge difference for the world. A distro like Mandrake is already easier, faster and more reliable than closed source slop from Redmond. Add enough market and you will find much better device drivers, office suites and interfaces to all the home electronics. I don't think closed source should be outlawed though. There are some honest and reliable closed source vendors. If they use open standards it is not that bad to interoperate. Even if Microsoft was no cost it is too expensive for the quality and security. DC
Nothing new here. MS wants to use a 50 cent CD and a couple bucks worth of docs to pay off about 300 or 400 dollars worth of settlement at a whack. It is like being a counterfieter except the courts often back MS on this shady exchange. Lindows wants to get in on the action and get a bit of the settlement. I can't see much wrong with that. I haven't cared much for Lindows but they do some creative marketing. More power to Lindows if they can make it work. We all know the only thing MS has going is agressive (anti-competitive) marketing and legal. let MS take their own medicine. I only regret that the lawyers will get the biggest piece of the action as usual.
I thought everyone knew Microsoft Chicken Shit Engineer or MCSE but I don't follow MS enough to know all the other TLAs.