>> faster routing code (all juniper routers run a modified version of fbsd, for good reason)
> Yes, the good reason is the BSD license. They can use it for free and make money out of it without needing to opensource nor contribute back anything.
Way to go shooting yourself in the foot. Whilst what you say is actually correct, Juniper DO contribute back to Freebsd.
If you'd read the bloomin' article (yes, I know, this is slashdot) it even mentions some of the stuff they've contributed to the 8 release!
Your GPL-warped brain seems to think that the GPL is the only way to get stuff contributed.
The main problem here, is that you don't know what you're talking about. - probably because you are blindly ignorant due to your view that the GPL way must be the only way to go.
Apart from Apple, 2 off the top of my head:
Yahoo contributed accept_filters and currently house servers on behalf of the freebsd project.
Blue Coat has contributed network routing architecture done by their senior network architect, Qing Li.
That's just 2 off the top of my head - google for the many others
I don't have ftpd on my systems, or rsh and telnetd etc.
I use "scp -R" to transfer lots of files neatly from place to place.
Sometimes I do it from one machine on my local lan to another machine on my local lan, less than 2 feet away. It would be nice in these circumstances to disable encryption, simply to speed up transfer.
By your reasoning, any photographs taken of mountains, seascapes, rivers, the statue of liberty, Big Ben, The White House etc. should not be the property of the photographer, because the places are either not owned, or are in public view, or are in the public domain.
Probably more than half the photographs that sell commercially should be public domain by your reckoning
I can't stand seeing the closing brace of an if statement sharing a line with an else, like so:
if( condition ) {
statement1; } else {
statement2; }
This will be totally unpopular, but the thing in your example that strikes me as worse is not having the open and closing braces in the same column. No-one else seems to, but I prefer:
if (condition)
{
code-block-1;
}
else
{
code-block-2;
}
That seems much more obvious to me.. If you need to debug, you can also get a good feel for missing brackets with:
Surely, if there is zero resistance, then there is no need to reduce the current to save on energy loss, so why still transmit at such a high voltage with the superconductor ?
The post I was replying to said how every windows installation has been a dream.
I simply pointed out that in my situation, that hasn't been the case.. Yes, if you are organised, you can get the drivers beforehand, or from another machine, but there have been numerous times where I've been asked to fix/reinstall someones machine that's died after a few years, and they've not got the OEM disk, and it's the only PC, and therefore no net connection, and I've gone there 'blind', not knowing what devices are in the machine, and it's a simple fact that faced with a generic FreeBSD disk, and a generic Windows disk, the FreeBSD one has picked up slightly more obscure stuff more readily than the generic windows disk.
Sure, if you know your hardware beforehand, or have a working station nearby then you CAN get the drivers -- and as I just wrote in a prior message - in the case where the driver doesn't exist on the FreeBSD install disk, it is FAR EASIER to get a windows driver from somewhere...
But for 'out of the box' standard install CD, I've found for slightly older hardware, the windows install doesn't come out the best.
I have to agree - whilst I stand by my original message, if you do get to a point where there is no working driver for FreeBSD (or Linux) then things are much harder than having to dig a MS driver from a website.. As you say, it's an unfair advantage, but Joe Public doesn't know or care about things like that.
More importantly, as users get more and more of their software running on the "native new OS", they'll be confused and annoyed how their legacy stuff (running in an emulator - which they don't care about) is so unable to integrate with their new software.
They'll virtually be running 2 seperate systems, and will not be able to drags documents and apps from one system to the other
In my experience, windows installs ok, if you have the manufacturers install CD that came with the PC, or if the machine is totally popular and 'generic' as far as drivers go.
If you don't have the manufacturers install CD, it's generally a pain in the butt - you have to manually search for sound card drivers or video card drivers etc.. Easy for you and me, but not so much for others.
On the other hand, on the same 'more diverse' machines, I've always found that a FreeBSD CD installs out of the box - the default CD has far more drivers in its generic kernel than windows appears to (and before the Linux people say it - I fully expect their experience would be similar to the FreeBSD one - I just don't have the experience to say one way or the other)
QUOTE: We're able to do the programming and communicate to the controllers through our laptops or Blackberries," said Glen Killmer, a branch manager for The Groundskeeper who is in charge of the Continental's acreage. 'This particular controller had stopped communicating."
A Groundskeeper irrigation technician sent to the site discovered that the piece of equipment, worth several thousand dollars, had disappeared.
Oh man, don't!!! Most people here are parent-basement living kids who's religion is Linux... Your well-balanced, and informed comments won't go down well here!
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You really haven't thought this through, have you?
I forgot - this is slashdot - you didn't read the article, right?
He said one of the motivations was the high price of textbooks.
So obviously he's going to borrow them from friends/libraries
>> faster routing code (all juniper routers run a modified version of fbsd, for good reason)
> Yes, the good reason is the BSD license. They can use it for free and make money out of it without needing to opensource nor contribute back anything.
Way to go shooting yourself in the foot. Whilst what you say is actually correct, Juniper DO contribute back to Freebsd.
If you'd read the bloomin' article (yes, I know, this is slashdot) it even mentions some of the stuff they've contributed to the 8 release!
Your GPL-warped brain seems to think that the GPL is the only way to get stuff contributed.
Take your blinkers off
I have been backing up my servers using ufs snapshots since FreeBSD 7.2 and have no problems.
I also use snapshots for immediate access to historic versions of files, again no problems.
It works and works well.
Well said.
Linux people talk about freedom and following standards and keeping things open, and yet they come up with awful linux-only hacks and conventions.
Like, why come out with ALSA, when they should have fixed their version of OSS instead..
I was amazed logging into a linux box recently how un-unix it's becoming.
That old comment "FreeBSD is for people that like Unix - Linux is for people that hate windows" is truer now more than ever.
The main problem here, is that you don't know what you're talking about. - probably because you are blindly ignorant due to your view that the GPL way must be the only way to go.
Apart from Apple, 2 off the top of my head:
Yahoo contributed accept_filters and currently house servers on behalf of the freebsd project.
Blue Coat has contributed network routing architecture done by their senior network architect, Qing Li.
That's just 2 off the top of my head - google for the many others
I'm also from the UK, and this mirrors my opinion exactly
totally agree - that's the same reason I stopped using MSN etc.
Though, I still use facebook (but marked 'offline' for chat purposes)
That way, I can still communicate with people, but when I want to.... Just like with email, but a bit more convenient in some cases
I don't have ftpd on my systems, or rsh and telnetd etc.
I use "scp -R" to transfer lots of files neatly from place to place.
Sometimes I do it from one machine on my local lan to another machine on my local lan, less than 2 feet away. It would be nice in these circumstances to disable encryption, simply to speed up transfer.
By your reasoning, any photographs taken of mountains, seascapes, rivers, the statue of liberty, Big Ben, The White House etc. should not be the property of the photographer, because the places are either not owned, or are in public view, or are in the public domain.
Probably more than half the photographs that sell commercially should be public domain by your reckoning
I don't know how easy it is on most phones, but my phone was able to retrieve the 'diverted-to voicemail number'
It was a standard number, that was diverted to if my main number wasn't answered or was unavailable.
I used to give this number to most people for this very purpose.
Ok, so this is 'recipient' rather than 'caller' initiated, but hey.
I wasn't making a joke - but I realised that after I posted it.
Sorry, brain-dead moment :blush:
I can't stand seeing the closing brace of an if statement sharing a line with an else, like so:
if( condition ) {
statement1;
} else {
statement2;
}
This will be totally unpopular, but the thing in your example that strikes me as worse is not having the open and closing braces in the same column. No-one else seems to, but I prefer:
if (condition)
{
code-block-1;
}
else
{
code-block-2;
}
That seems much more obvious to me.. If you need to debug, you can also get a good feel for missing brackets with:
egrep '{|}' x.c
In the UK: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economy_7
Not if all that heat/light is collected and converted into electricity!
Why is the voltage so high ?
Surely, if there is zero resistance, then there is no need to reduce the current to save on energy loss, so why still transmit at such a high voltage with the superconductor ?
TIA
The post I was replying to said how every windows installation has been a dream.
I simply pointed out that in my situation, that hasn't been the case.. Yes, if you are organised, you can get the drivers beforehand, or from another machine, but there have been numerous times where I've been asked to fix/reinstall someones machine that's died after a few years, and they've not got the OEM disk, and it's the only PC, and therefore no net connection, and I've gone there 'blind', not knowing what devices are in the machine, and it's a simple fact that faced with a generic FreeBSD disk, and a generic Windows disk, the FreeBSD one has picked up slightly more obscure stuff more readily than the generic windows disk.
Sure, if you know your hardware beforehand, or have a working station nearby then you CAN get the drivers -- and as I just wrote in a prior message - in the case where the driver doesn't exist on the FreeBSD install disk, it is FAR EASIER to get a windows driver from somewhere...
But for 'out of the box' standard install CD, I've found for slightly older hardware, the windows install doesn't come out the best.
Cheers,
J
I have to agree - whilst I stand by my original message, if you do get to a point where there is no working driver for FreeBSD (or Linux) then things are much harder than having to dig a MS driver from a website.. As you say, it's an unfair advantage, but Joe Public doesn't know or care about things like that.
More importantly, as users get more and more of their software running on the "native new OS", they'll be confused and annoyed how their legacy stuff (running in an emulator - which they don't care about) is so unable to integrate with their new software.
They'll virtually be running 2 seperate systems, and will not be able to drags documents and apps from one system to the other
I'm sure you're not trolling, but neither am I:
In my experience, windows installs ok, if you have the manufacturers install CD that came with the PC, or if the machine is totally popular and 'generic' as far as drivers go.
If you don't have the manufacturers install CD, it's generally a pain in the butt - you have to manually search for sound card drivers or video card drivers etc.. Easy for you and me, but not so much for others.
On the other hand, on the same 'more diverse' machines, I've always found that a FreeBSD CD installs out of the box - the default CD has far more drivers in its generic kernel than windows appears to (and before the Linux people say it - I fully expect their experience would be similar to the FreeBSD one - I just don't have the experience to say one way or the other)
I used to work in a big company, and they had boring rigid names for all servers, based on the location and a numbered code.
At one time, I was responsible for the build of three servers, and I named them after 'super-clubs' in Ibiza. (privilege, amnesia, and space)
When my boss asked me how the names came about, I wasn't quite so truthful:
PRIVILEGE - "As this was the 'sysadmins' server, only privileged people used it."
AMNESIA - This machine actually had memory problems and needed new memory chips before I rebuilt it, so that was my explained reasoning for this one.
SPACE - This was the network file store, and had a huge amount of free disk space....
It's only one click to RTFA :-(
QUOTE:
We're able to do the programming and communicate to the controllers through our laptops or Blackberries," said Glen Killmer, a branch manager for The Groundskeeper who is in charge of the Continental's acreage. 'This particular controller had stopped communicating."
A Groundskeeper irrigation technician sent to the site discovered that the piece of equipment, worth several thousand dollars, had disappeared.
I use :
xterm -bg black -fg green
Oh man, don't!!! Most people here are parent-basement living kids who's religion is Linux... Your well-balanced, and informed comments won't go down well here!
slashdot is the home of the linux fanboys, remember ;-)