My bad. But I'll note that it's "Sir Alec" and not "Sir Peter." What I shoulda said is "most famous." Bridge on the River Kwai is a must-see.
I must confess I was taking the piss to some extent. Peter Cushing was certainly a known actor, but I'm not really suggesting that films such as "The Satanic Rites Of Dracula" and "Frankenstein and the Monster From Hell" are in the same league as "Bridge on the River Kwai".:-)
(although "Twins Of Evil" is an enduring classic!)
They can't officially call it Java due to trademark law, but they nevertheless use their bastardized, proprietary version as if it were the real thing, with the all-too-well-known Javascript errors, hung browsers, and crashed PC's as the inevitable result.
A Javascript error is nothing to do with Java. Java and Javascript have absolutely nothing in common, apart from the fact that both may be used to make web pages more irritating, oops, sorry, I meant interactive.
Javascript is just a scripting language. Microsoft's bastard version of it is VBScript, not J++.
Finally: "Alec, you made your bed. It made you famous. Now, you have to lie in it." (a) it didn't make him famous. He was the only 'name' actor in the original movie. Check out his filmography on IMDB if you don't believe me.
I agree that Star Wars didn't make Sir Alec Guinness famous, but saying he was the only name actor in it is surely a greivous insult to the wonderful Peter Cushing, who according to the IMDB had made an astonishing 93 movies before he appeared in Star Wars!
I've seen various people say things about the Gimp's interface, like: "I don't like it", or "I'm used to Photoshop, so learning a new interface is a pain". Anyway, this idea bubbled up in my brain as I was walking home yesterday:
One of the projects in the Gnome Software Map is libglade, a library which allows an app to load a user interface definition from Glade (the GTK user interface designer) at runtime, thus enabling user interfaces to be changed and used without a recompile.
My idea was, if the Gimp's interface was designed in Glade, and loaded via libglade, surely it would be possible for people to customise it to their heart's content, and enterprising souls could design and release custom interfaces, eg Photoshop clones, for those who need a tool that "just works" and don't have time to fiddle.
(when I was coding on the Amiga, I originally used an editor called CygnusEd. Then I replace it with one called GoldEd, which had an extremely customisable interface, so I could make all the menus, hotkeys, etc. the same as CygnusEd. This was fantastic, but obviously a lot of work for the programmer - surely something like libglade could allow our major applications such flexibility without demanding too much effort from the developers at all?)
Damn, I hate to gush, but this is cool. I just had a go of the M2 (after working hard over the last couple of days to overcome a mysterious -1 karma I'd somehow acquired, despite never having been moderated in either direction, to my knowledge), and it was good fun. And Security Focus and Gnotices are two very welcome additions to the Slashbox collection!
I'm of two minds with respect to the competitive focus on MS. I want to say you're right, this is stupid, concentrate on making Linux better.
Well, we've always said that the advantage of having multiple Linux distributions is that they can focus on different groups with different needs: Caldera for newbies, Debian for hardcore free software types, Slackware for the old-school, etc. Red Hat can be the distro for the "destroy Microsoft" crowd! They're certainly a decent sized segment of Linux users, they deserve a distro looking after their interests!
And of course, any ideas and developments the different distros come up with while pursuing their goals, are there for others to take advantage of, if it fits their goals to do so..
How about if moderators get paid $5 per day like jurors? Also, I bet you could probably sell karma for like $5 per point. To get the bonus, people would have to give you about 125 bucks!
I don't know about anyone else, but if I score enough karma to get the automatic score 2, I'll be auctioning my account on eBay!:-)
Witten wrote, in the midst of a very interesting and well-spoken comment: This War on Trolls is a lot like the War on Drugs. At a certain point, the effort you must expend to eradicate that last 1% of perceived evil is so great, and so harmful to "society," that's it's really not worth it.
I have to agree with this. The coder in me is hugely impressed by the moderation system that Rob has put into place here - it's a fine, slick system, and for me, it works very well. I read with the threshold set to 1, and I really don't see much crap. If a story has hundreds of comments or I don't have time to read too many, I bump it up to 2 and see all sorts of good stuff. This is as it should be. But a campaign of extermination upon trolls? It will fail. Let me tell a story..
Back in the early 90's, before the internet took off for home usage, I used to call this multi-line chat BBS. It was cool, it was fun, a nice friendly open system. A community, if you will. Sure, there were fights, and flamings, and so on - this wasn't alt.cuddle! - but it wasn't too bad.
As it got bigger, some people got a bit concerned about standards. There were kiddies there - maybe there shouldn't be so much swearing in the chat room? So a profanity filter was implemented to kick off people who swore too much. You can guess the reaction - "fuck that!", or, more accurately "fukk that!" or even "f(_)ck that!". Not to mention newbies being slyly logged off by goading them into saying "wristwatch" or "Scunthorpe" 5 times.
As an air of conflict began to develop between some users and the sysops, attitudes got worse. Some people became so vicious in their flaming that they got their accounts deleted. So they created new accounts and reappeared. All of a sudden, this once open system now required new users to register with a name and phone number to be verified by voice before they could get full access - until that happened, they could only browse for 5 minutes or something.
Of course 5 minutes is plenty of time for a barrage of truly offensive flaming, so the next step that had to be taken was to lock unregistered accounts out of the chatroom. Making it all a bit hard for a true new user to check out the BBS and decide whether he wanted to register.
But the troll arms race continued! Sure you couldn't say anything as an unregistered user, but people were still getting the "Blah has logged on" messages. Hmm.. username.. 9 characters.. you can fit a few swear words into that! So they did! And further code had to be added to suppress the usernames of unregistered users from the list of who was online.
I gave up at about this point, but I'm sure the arms race continued.
How does this relate to Slashdot? Well I guess it doesn't really. I've kind of lost my train of thought. I think my point was that you can never lock out unwanted people, just as you can't lock them out of Usenet. All you can do is provide easy means of ignoring them (killfiles on Usenet, moderation and thresholds on Slashdot), and don't feed the trolls! Total war is undesirable because total victory will never be achieved. "The more you tighten your grip, the more trolls will slip through your fingers"..?
So how did you come to choose hotmail over yahoo or any of the others. I use yahoo for the same reasons you mentioned, but I also like the fact that it is not such a haven for crackers and spammers (heck, MS wouldn't even delete the hotmail account that a trojan was emailing info to) and it seems to have a slightly better reputation. I loathe email from hotmail even more than AOL. Also, I can actually clean out my trash when I want to.
With Hotmail's security you don't need to clean out your trash - you just wait until an exploit is discovered and somebody else hijacks your account and deletes everything for you! :-)
Really? So why is Quake2 v3.19 faster on NT4 than 95 when software rendering on a dual CPU motherboard?
Dunno, but it's not because Quake utilises SMP. Maybe it's just NT being better than 95. Maybe it's your second CPU being used for some of the other tasks your machine is running, which won't happen under 95. But it's not because Quake is using it.
Quake 3, on the other hand, will. It can use two separate threads, one for rendering and one for physics/AI if I recall correctly? I think benchmarks had it going 40% or so faster with two CPUs than one.
I certainly don't feel I'm ripping George Lucas off. I've seen the movie in the theater seven times at $7 a pop. Each time, I brought my girlfriend.
You took your girlfriend to see Phantom Menace 7 times!? I hope she dumped you! My SO only made me go and see it once, and I had plenty of hard words with her over it..
Amazingly, not less than 2 minutes after I wrote my comment, a co-worker asked me "Do you watch Save by the Bell?" And of course, I told him "I don't watch TV." Needless to say, I received "The Look." Absolutely Incredible.
I get the same look. Mind you, saying "I don't watch TV" to your workmates maybe seems a little odder when you work for a TV station, like I do.:-)
Nah, one or two rented videos a week, and maybe one movie at the cinema, that's enough to satiate my passive entertainment desires..
Amiga used to be a bunch of intelligent, smart, and witty people. Where are you now? I used to converse with people of copper chip timings and such. People used to share 3D rendering code, and hal optimizations with me. Now a bunch of crazy people are posting stupid, un-intellegent, pro-ami , bad linux. What gives?
Where are we now? Using Linux, BSD, stuff like that. I was an Amiga loyalist for years, yeah, hardware-bashing assembly-writing democoder, there was no way I was going to switch to a PC when the hardware was so much worse and the OS was so much worse.
But times started to change.. with Commodore's slow slide into the mud, the hardware stopped getting better, the OS stopped getting better, but I still stuck with it, even when people were buying much more powerful PCs for half the money, 'cos I used Windows at work and didn't want to go anywhere near it at home.
Then I discovered Linux. An OS as good as AmigaDOS, running on that stupidly cheap PC hardware, and with a community full of keen hackers just like the old Amiga scene. So I bought a PC, and packed the A500, A1200 and A3000 away. Not without regret, believe me, but their time was just past.
And after spending literally years in the mid-90's believing in an imminent Amiga resurrection, I can say with as much confidence as I can say anything, that it's just not going to happen.
I once heard a linguist complain that their weren't enough single men in her field. Maybe we need to start recruiting linguists, get them into compilers and AI...
Are none of the men in that field single because they are all cunning linguists..?
(As a side note, Compaq has to be about the worst vendor for releasing their machine specifications. I was considering buying a used PPro Professional Workstation, but the most I could get from the spec sheets was "integrated SCSI-2UW" and "integrated NetFlex 10/100 ethernet". (Some digging found that they use different chipsets in the same model line.) In the old days, Compaq made their own very good SCSI and Ethernet equipment, but I guess now they are just trying to delude their customers while packaging cheapo commodity equipment.)
This is definitely true, the last place I worked used Compaq desktops exclusively, and they changed stuff around from shipment to shipment of the same "model" machine. Graphics chipsets were our problem.. also they changed case design quite often in the same model. Some of the cases were fantastic designs. Others were terrible. Plus it looked kind of weird when every machine in an office was a different shape.:-)
But, as someone else said, I roll my own anyway, so I don't care. Nice to see that the people who want/need to buy from a big vendor will have one more big vendor option for Linux..
What can I say? I think that Sir Alec Guiness saved Episode IV from being a simple shoot-em-up, blow-up-things-in-space movie. Ford was fun, but Guiness made it all seem more meaningful.
Lucas' best casting came from his trawling of Hammer Horror films for Episode IV. Peter Cushing as Grand Moff Tarkin and David Prowse as Darth Vader? Who could ask for a better pair of villains!
Gem of trivia I accidentally found on the Internet Movie Database -> David Prowse played Hotblack Desiato's bodyguard in The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy! Amazing!
Not strictly 2.2.9 related, but I notice in the changelog for kernel v2.3.1 that it says "IDE ALI M15x3 chipset support added".
I have a motherboard with the ALi Aladdin V chipset that includes the M1543 IDE controller, which has always worked fine for me (I was running 2.1.something when I bought it). So what does this mean? Is there functionality that I wasn't getting out of my M1543 before that I will now if I upgrade to 2.3.1? Anyone know?
I'm sorry, but I stopped reading the article after the first few sentences. I can't stand reading published material (even if it is published on the Internet) that is full of typos. (For those of you that are lost, Defence is actually spelled Defense!) How am I supposed to take this article seriously when they can't even spell?
That's probably why people in the UK (where this article came from) and Australia find it so hard to take the USA seriously. I mean, a whole nation that can't even spell? Defense?? Z's instead of S's?? OR's instead of OUR's??? Come on!
Am I the only person in the world that finds no humor in this comic strip? I have never read a strip that even made me smile.
I'm with you
I remember from a few years back, a critic slagged off Ben Elton's stand-up comedy as being only funny to sycophantic lefties who'll laugh at the mere mention of Margaret Thatcher. I think they were wrong. But they'd be right if they had said that User Friendly is only funny to sycophantic Linux-heads who'll laugh at the mere mention of Microsoft.
Come on, it's just not that funny! If it wasn't aligned to your political beliefs, none of you would glance at a second strip!
(and the artwork is terrible, too)
(and and, for whoever said "at last a web comic is getting the respect of a publishing deal", Red Meat has two volumes in print, and is 100x funnier to boot!
Well, at the company I work at this is definitely not true. I am not a member of the IT department, but there are basically 2 people who take care of all the Unix boxes, which out number NT boxes. There are at least 4 people that I know of that take care of the NT machines, and probably a couple more that I don't know. So, given this I would say the Unix boxes offer a better long term value than the NT boxes.
It's the same where I work, except that instead of using NT and Unix, we use NT and VMS. We have one and a half VMS sysadmins (one fulltime guy and one guy that does a lot of other stuff as well as VMS) looking after our main production servers, and five people either looking after or learning to look after the NT servers - which are an armada of file and print servers, nothing mission critical, and thank god for that because they die all the time.
And NT admins aren't cheap here in Australia, further weaking NT's claim to be cheap.
ever try to get a 10 gig hard disk running on Linux???
Yep, I tried that. Opened up the case, stuck the 10.5gig hard disk in, connected the cables, screwed the screws, booted a Redhat CD, told it which drive to use, and watched it format and install.
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My bad. But I'll note that it's "Sir Alec" and not "Sir Peter." What I shoulda said is "most famous." Bridge on the River Kwai is a must-see.
I must confess I was taking the piss to some extent. Peter Cushing was certainly a known actor, but I'm not really suggesting that films such as "The Satanic Rites Of Dracula" and "Frankenstein and the Monster From Hell" are in the same league as "Bridge on the River Kwai". :-)
(although "Twins Of Evil" is an enduring classic!)
They can't officially call it Java due to trademark law, but they nevertheless use their bastardized, proprietary version as if it were the real thing, with the all-too-well-known Javascript errors, hung browsers, and crashed PC's as the inevitable result.
A Javascript error is nothing to do with Java. Java and Javascript have absolutely nothing in common, apart from the fact that both may be used to make web pages more irritating, oops, sorry, I meant interactive.
Javascript is just a scripting language. Microsoft's bastard version of it is VBScript, not J++.
Finally: "Alec, you made your bed. It made you famous. Now, you have to lie in it." (a) it didn't make him famous. He was the only 'name' actor in the original movie. Check out his filmography on IMDB if you don't believe me.
I agree that Star Wars didn't make Sir Alec Guinness famous, but saying he was the only name actor in it is surely a greivous insult to the wonderful Peter Cushing, who according to the IMDB had made an astonishing 93 movies before he appeared in Star Wars!
I've seen various people say things about the Gimp's interface, like: "I don't like it", or "I'm used to Photoshop, so learning a new interface is a pain". Anyway, this idea bubbled up in my brain as I was walking home yesterday:
One of the projects in the Gnome Software Map is libglade, a library which allows an app to load a user interface definition from Glade (the GTK user interface designer) at runtime, thus enabling user interfaces to be changed and used without a recompile.
My idea was, if the Gimp's interface was designed in Glade, and loaded via libglade, surely it would be possible for people to customise it to their heart's content, and enterprising souls could design and release custom interfaces, eg Photoshop clones, for those who need a tool that "just works" and don't have time to fiddle.
(when I was coding on the Amiga, I originally used an editor called CygnusEd. Then I replace it with one called GoldEd, which had an extremely customisable interface, so I could make all the menus, hotkeys, etc. the same as CygnusEd. This was fantastic, but obviously a lot of work for the programmer - surely something like libglade could allow our major applications such flexibility without demanding too much effort from the developers at all?)
What does anyone think?
Damn, I hate to gush, but this is cool. I just had a go of the M2 (after working hard over the last couple of days to overcome a mysterious -1 karma I'd somehow acquired, despite never having been moderated in either direction, to my knowledge), and it was good fun. And Security Focus and Gnotices are two very welcome additions to the Slashbox collection!
Three cheers for Slashdot!
I'm of two minds with respect to the competitive focus on MS. I want to say you're right, this is stupid, concentrate on making Linux better.
Well, we've always said that the advantage of having multiple Linux distributions is that they can focus on different groups with different needs: Caldera for newbies, Debian for hardcore free software types, Slackware for the old-school, etc. Red Hat can be the distro for the "destroy Microsoft" crowd! They're certainly a decent sized segment of Linux users, they deserve a distro looking after their interests!
And of course, any ideas and developments the different distros come up with while pursuing their goals, are there for others to take advantage of, if it fits their goals to do so..
How about if moderators get paid $5 per day like jurors? Also, I bet you could probably sell karma for like $5 per point. To get the bonus, people would have to give you about 125 bucks!
I don't know about anyone else, but if I score enough karma to get the automatic score 2, I'll be auctioning my account on eBay! :-)
Witten wrote, in the midst of a very interesting and well-spoken comment:
This War on Trolls is a lot like the War on Drugs. At a certain point, the effort you must expend to eradicate that last 1% of perceived evil is so great, and so harmful to "society," that's it's really not worth it.
I have to agree with this. The coder in me is hugely impressed by the moderation system that Rob has put into place here - it's a fine, slick system, and for me, it works very well. I read with the threshold set to 1, and I really don't see much crap. If a story has hundreds of comments or I don't have time to read too many, I bump it up to 2 and see all sorts of good stuff. This is as it should be. But a campaign of extermination upon trolls? It will fail. Let me tell a story..
Back in the early 90's, before the internet took off for home usage, I used to call this multi-line chat BBS. It was cool, it was fun, a nice friendly open system. A community, if you will. Sure, there were fights, and flamings, and so on - this wasn't alt.cuddle! - but it wasn't too bad.
As it got bigger, some people got a bit concerned about standards. There were kiddies there - maybe there shouldn't be so much swearing in the chat room? So a profanity filter was implemented to kick off people who swore too much. You can guess the reaction - "fuck that!", or, more accurately "fukk that!" or even "f(_)ck that!". Not to mention newbies being slyly logged off by goading them into saying "wristwatch" or "Scunthorpe" 5 times.
As an air of conflict began to develop between some users and the sysops, attitudes got worse. Some people became so vicious in their flaming that they got their accounts deleted. So they created new accounts and reappeared. All of a sudden, this once open system now required new users to register with a name and phone number to be verified by voice before they could get full access - until that happened, they could only browse for 5 minutes or something.
Of course 5 minutes is plenty of time for a barrage of truly offensive flaming, so the next step that had to be taken was to lock unregistered accounts out of the chatroom. Making it all a bit hard for a true new user to check out the BBS and decide whether he wanted to register.
But the troll arms race continued! Sure you couldn't say anything as an unregistered user, but people were still getting the "Blah has logged on" messages. Hmm.. username.. 9 characters.. you can fit a few swear words into that! So they did! And further code had to be added to suppress the usernames of unregistered users from the list of who was online.
I gave up at about this point, but I'm sure the arms race continued.
How does this relate to Slashdot? Well I guess it doesn't really. I've kind of lost my train of thought. I think my point was that you can never lock out unwanted people, just as you can't lock them out of Usenet. All you can do is provide easy means of ignoring them (killfiles on Usenet, moderation and thresholds on Slashdot), and don't feed the trolls! Total war is undesirable because total victory will never be achieved. "The more you tighten your grip, the more trolls will slip through your fingers" ..?
So how did you come to choose hotmail over yahoo or any of the others. I use yahoo for the same reasons you mentioned, but I also like the fact that it is not such a haven for crackers and spammers (heck, MS wouldn't even delete the hotmail account that a trojan was emailing info to) and it seems to have a slightly better reputation. I loathe email from hotmail even more than AOL. Also, I can actually clean out my trash when I want to.
With Hotmail's security you don't need to clean out your trash - you just wait until an exploit is discovered and somebody else hijacks your account and deletes everything for you!
:-)
>Too bad Quake doesn't utilize SMP.
Really? So why is Quake2 v3.19 faster on NT4 than 95 when software rendering on a dual CPU motherboard?
Dunno, but it's not because Quake utilises SMP. Maybe it's just NT being better than 95. Maybe it's your second CPU being used for some of the other tasks your machine is running, which won't happen under 95. But it's not because Quake is using it.
Quake 3, on the other hand, will. It can use two separate threads, one for rendering and one for physics/AI if I recall correctly? I think benchmarks had it going 40% or so faster with two CPUs than one.
I certainly don't feel I'm ripping George Lucas off. I've seen the movie in the theater seven times at $7 a pop. Each time, I brought my girlfriend.
You took your girlfriend to see Phantom Menace 7 times!? I hope she dumped you! My SO only made me go and see it once, and I had plenty of hard words with her over it..
Amazingly, not less than 2 minutes after I wrote my comment, a co-worker asked me "Do you watch Save by the Bell?" And of course, I told him "I don't watch TV." Needless to say, I received "The Look." Absolutely Incredible.
I get the same look. Mind you, saying "I don't watch TV" to your workmates maybe seems a little odder when you work for a TV station, like I do. :-)
Nah, one or two rented videos a week, and maybe one movie at the cinema, that's enough to satiate my passive entertainment desires..
Amiga used to be a bunch of intelligent, smart, and witty people. Where are you now? I used to converse with people of copper chip timings and such. People used to share 3D rendering code, and hal optimizations with me. Now a bunch of crazy people are posting stupid, un-intellegent, pro-ami , bad linux. What gives?
Where are we now? Using Linux, BSD, stuff like that. I was an Amiga loyalist for years, yeah, hardware-bashing assembly-writing democoder, there was no way I was going to switch to a PC when the hardware was so much worse and the OS was so much worse.
But times started to change.. with Commodore's slow slide into the mud, the hardware stopped getting better, the OS stopped getting better, but I still stuck with it, even when people were buying much more powerful PCs for half the money, 'cos I used Windows at work and didn't want to go anywhere near it at home.
Then I discovered Linux. An OS as good as AmigaDOS, running on that stupidly cheap PC hardware, and with a community full of keen hackers just like the old Amiga scene. So I bought a PC, and packed the A500, A1200 and A3000 away. Not without regret, believe me, but their time was just past.
And after spending literally years in the mid-90's believing in an imminent Amiga resurrection, I can say with as much confidence as I can say anything, that it's just not going to happen.
I once heard a linguist complain that their weren't enough single men in her field. Maybe we need to start recruiting linguists, get them into compilers and AI...
Are none of the men in that field single because they are all cunning linguists ..?
(As a side note, Compaq has to be about the worst vendor for releasing their machine specifications. I was considering buying a used PPro Professional Workstation, but the most I could get from the spec sheets was "integrated SCSI-2UW" and "integrated NetFlex 10/100 ethernet". (Some digging found that they use different chipsets in the same model line.) In the old days, Compaq made their own very good SCSI and Ethernet equipment, but I guess now they are just trying to delude their customers while packaging cheapo commodity equipment.)
This is definitely true, the last place I worked used Compaq desktops exclusively, and they changed stuff around from shipment to shipment of the same "model" machine. Graphics chipsets were our problem.. also they changed case design quite often in the same model. Some of the cases were fantastic designs. Others were terrible. Plus it looked kind of weird when every machine in an office was a different shape. :-)
But, as someone else said, I roll my own anyway, so I don't care. Nice to see that the people who want/need to buy from a big vendor will have one more big vendor option for Linux..
What can I say? I think that Sir Alec Guiness saved Episode IV from being a simple shoot-em-up, blow-up-things-in-space movie. Ford was fun, but Guiness made it all seem more meaningful.
Lucas' best casting came from his trawling of Hammer Horror films for Episode IV. Peter Cushing as Grand Moff Tarkin and David Prowse as Darth Vader? Who could ask for a better pair of villains!
Gem of trivia I accidentally found on the Internet Movie Database -> David Prowse played Hotblack Desiato's bodyguard in The Hitchhiker's Guide To The Galaxy! Amazing!
I have a motherboard with the ALi Aladdin V chipset that includes the M1543 IDE controller, which has always worked fine for me (I was running 2.1.something when I bought it). So what does this mean? Is there functionality that I wasn't getting out of my M1543 before that I will now if I upgrade to 2.3.1? Anyone know?
I'm sorry, but I stopped reading the article after the first few sentences. I can't stand reading published material (even if it is published on the Internet) that is full of typos. (For those of you that are lost, Defence is actually spelled Defense!) How am I supposed to take this article seriously when they can't even spell?
That's probably why people in the UK (where this article came from) and Australia find it so hard to take the USA seriously. I mean, a whole nation that can't even spell? Defense?? Z's instead of S's?? OR's instead of OUR's??? Come on!
Am I the only person in the world that finds no humor in this comic strip? I have never read a strip that even made me smile.
I'm with you
I remember from a few years back, a critic slagged off Ben Elton's stand-up comedy as being only funny to sycophantic lefties who'll laugh at the mere mention of Margaret Thatcher. I think they were wrong. But they'd be right if they had said that User Friendly is only funny to sycophantic Linux-heads who'll laugh at the mere mention of Microsoft.
Come on, it's just not that funny! If it wasn't aligned to your political beliefs, none of you would glance at a second strip!
(and the artwork is terrible, too)
(and and, for whoever said "at last a web comic is getting the respect of a publishing deal", Red Meat has two volumes in print, and is 100x funnier to boot!
Well, at the company I work at this is definitely not true. I am not a member of the IT department, but there are basically 2 people who take care of all the Unix boxes, which out number NT boxes. There are at least 4 people that I know of that take care of the NT machines, and probably a couple more that I don't know. So, given this I would say the Unix boxes offer a better long term value than the NT boxes.
It's the same where I work, except that instead of using NT and Unix, we use NT and VMS. We have one and a half VMS sysadmins (one fulltime guy and one guy that does a lot of other stuff as well as VMS) looking after our main production servers, and five people either looking after or learning to look after the NT servers - which are an armada of file and print servers, nothing mission critical, and thank god for that because they die all the time.
And NT admins aren't cheap here in Australia, further weaking NT's claim to be cheap.
The Eric Conspiracy wrote:
ever try to get a 10 gig hard disk running on Linux???
Yep, I tried that. Opened up the case, stuck the 10.5gig hard disk in, connected the cables, screwed the screws, booted a Redhat CD, told it which drive to use, and watched it format and install.
Sorry, was something supposed to go wrong?
An anonymous coward wrote..
here's an interesting poll:
[ ] I read my horoscope today
[ ] I read a SINGLE bible verse today
You forgot..
[ ] I haven't read any fiction today