Now another interesting side note is veriphone uses POTS lines for nearly %100 of their credit card processing. Tons of small stores have networks in them now, managers reading e-mail and such.
Minor correction, no flame intended. Verifone does not use any network. The client decides what medium to use for credit/debit verification. Some use POTS, others use satellites. Typically all use some sort of private network.
In the late 1970's Microsoft licensed UNIX source code from AT&T which at the time was not licensing the name UNIX. Therefore Microsoft created the name Xenix. Microsoft did not sell Xenix to end-users but instead licensed the software to software OEMs such as Intel, Tandy, Altos and SCO who then provided a finished version of their own Xenix to the end-users or other customers.
SCO introduced its first version of Xenix named SCO Xenix System V for the Intel 8086 and 8088 in 1983. Today SCO Xenix is one of the more commonly used and found versions of Xenix.
expanding it to search the entered text of a group of users, giving the benefit of possible autocompetion of text you may have never typed.
I downloaded a new tar file. From the command line I type, "tar -xvf firstletteroftarfile TAB". Even though I never typed in the file name before, the autocompletion determined what I wanted.
It's all based on ordered lists (catalogs, etc), nothing new here, plenty of prior art.
It's still prior art. The thesaurus in the Bank Street Writer (1984) did this after entering a couple of keystrokes. And, like several others have pointed out, command completion works the same way.
Sure you might say it's useless and what we have is good enough
Not useless, but not practical either. Especially running on cheap PC hardware for the home user or your average file/print server computer running in a small company (single point of failure).
I can think of only one good reason to implement this on a stock PC. Secure computing for a defense department (and only if MS lets the IT department at the pentagon/EU whatever, decide on the record access controls).
I can think of several bad reasons Microsoft wants to implement (force?) this file system on home/small business users of windows. It all boils down to DRM and software lock-in (MS office only, OpenOffice need not apply).
(having it in a database seems to offer a large potential for interesting metadata/application interfaces to files) I take it your not a programmer. HFS/HPFSOS2 file systems (Mac/OS2) already have a means for metadata. Hell, even the Amiga/GSOS of the 80's supported metadata. Have you even looked at the ext* inode structures? I'm not sure what you mean by application interfaces. Be more specific.
at the actual idea but assuming it is valid how would we go about doing it on Linux? Let the programmer decide. Let the user decide to use it. In case you haven't noticed, with Linux, the user gets to decide the file system, WM, applications, etc. Could Linux incorporate a file system that enforces DRM? Yes.
Better yet. Ask yourself if the data you create today can be accessed by you 10 years from now.
This is mostly how the the AS/400 implements it's DB/FS. May I add a few more to this list?
1)Break all legacy applications unless they provide a method of also mounting other file systems. 2) Reverse engineering file formats is now a thing of the past. Permanent vendor lock-in allowed.
Did 1.0 even have Mozilla? Easy enough to install. Look at the OS/2 section of Mozilla development.
A difficult/buggy install should not hold this software back if it's worth using
My biggest bitch and Love against OS/2 has always been that its too hardware dependent. If you have crappy ram for instance (or a mix of different speeds) your install will always crap out. Once it installs though it's rock solid.
Can you imagine a system that cannot do printing because it can't render graphics?
I hate defending Microsoft, but the way the printer/display interface is implimented under windows is second to none. The GDI abstracts away alot of work you would have to do to get WYSIWYG printouts. I have yet to see a Linux API handle this the way MS does. Hell, none of the Linux programming books I own even have chapters on printing.
SCO hasn't read the terms of their own settlement. Systems derived from 4.4BSD-Lite and Lite2 are unencumbered.
I agree. Per the Unix family tree, BSD was split off into a fork in (1978) long before SCO even entered the market (Xenix). http://www.levenez.com/unix/ I'm not sure how accurate this family tree is though. They derive the linux branch from minix.
Not including the BSD branch, I would still like to hear SCO's evidence of copyright violations. Monterey didn't announce until 10/98, well after the development of the original JFS/Omni drivers IBM later contributed to linux.
grep -ri SCO (& xenix) on the linux srouce (2.4.18) only shows results in the ABI code. No violation there.
I feel like I am getting old when someone patents something that was already done in the good old days of yore. But I don't feel old!
1) Netbios/SMB in the mid 1980's covers most of his protocol discovery network claims (OSI).It also refutes any of his service provider claims if you think of the central fileserver as the provider of services (which I think qualifies). 2) Purchasing items was done through compuserve over dialup long before this patent. I still have my 1985 (5.25 floppies) Compuserve kit to prove so.
I didn't read the whole patent. I didn't see what, if any, physical medium was claimed (the damn double speak gives me a headache). If someone wants to give me an itemized claim, I can probably refute most the rest. There is no physical difference from a LAN/MAN/WAN from the internet. Only the protocol has changed.
Bob Metcalf should be consulted to refute more than I can.
Agreed, I just used it as a sample. How long before we have 32, 64, 128, and 256 instructions for memes? And when did we replace the word memes for sprites?
Offtopic, could you program a single task into a sprite (meme), and then have it do your bidding? I can't without a rules based system.
Since my first born son is now into ancient wars (9 years old, and in his first history class), he is asking how Rome managed to take 2/3 of the known world.
I used the map editors in WarCraft/Freecraft to show how the Romans lost, and then won several major campaigns with thier tatics. We fought each other over the LAN, with me choosing the losing side. I used the web site here as reference to the battles: http://www.roman-empire.net/
Along the way, I learned that the movie Sparticus (one of my favorites), does not reflect on what really happend. Enjoy,
Just imagine a game that you can litterally do [i]anything[/i]in the game's world! The perfect game would have the capability to create a world to the extent of Star Trek's holodeck.
This is done by the game AI, not the programmer. I can see where a programmer enters in a few rules and then lets the AI take over. It would be like merging Doom III with the "massive" rendering AI here:
http://www.popsci.com/popsci/science/article/0,125 43,390918-1,00.html
From the article, some of the sprites just ran away from the battle on thier own.
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Its been years since I used an AS/400, and if I recall, it had a dedicated processor to offload all the file (record processing) chores to.
I just wonder if WinFS will be able to keep up with the temp files my compiler creates in a given minute.
Enjoy,
Now another interesting side note is veriphone uses POTS lines for nearly %100 of their credit card processing. Tons of small stores have networks in them now, managers reading e-mail and such.
Minor correction, no flame intended.
Verifone does not use any network. The client decides what medium to use for credit/debit verification. Some use POTS, others use satellites. Typically all use some sort of private network.
Enjoy,
Seeing the Germans started in all.
l ery/fact _sheets/general/frocket/frocket.htm
Goddard, if alive, would argue this point.
http://www.gsfc.nasa.gov/gsfc/service/gal
Enjoy,
I have always been able to buy a whitebox PC with no preloaded OS
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Obviously you never read the OEM aggreement where it is illegal to buy a PC without windows.
Try this story,
http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/4/14
or from Microsoft,
http://www.microsoft.com/philippines/
Enjoy,
Really, OSS is fine in academia but for the administrative needs of a governing body !?
:)
I think the city of Largo, Florida might have something to say about that
Enjoy,
eesh! I wish you people would learn some history...
Humor me with history. I take it your reference to POP3 in this instance doesn't mean post office protocol.
Thanks, and enjoy,
Since when did ML mean anything other than Machine Language?
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http://www.chisp.net/~dminer/c64/gazette/8801/8
Enjoy,
Even more confusing:
In the late 1970's Microsoft licensed UNIX source code from AT&T which at the time was not licensing the name UNIX. Therefore Microsoft created the name Xenix. Microsoft did not sell Xenix to end-users but instead licensed the software to software OEMs such as Intel, Tandy, Altos and SCO who then provided a finished version of their own Xenix to the end-users or other customers.
SCO introduced its first version of Xenix named SCO Xenix System V for the Intel 8086 and 8088 in 1983. Today SCO Xenix is one of the more commonly used and found versions of Xenix.
Enjoy,
This isn't a big revelation. Microsoft previously had thier own unix distribution. They sold it SCO.
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http://www.sourcemagazine.com/articles/viewer.a
Enjoy,
expanding it to search the entered text of a group of users, giving the benefit of possible autocompetion of text you may have never typed.
I downloaded a new tar file. From the command line I type, "tar -xvf firstletteroftarfile TAB". Even though I never typed in the file name before, the autocompletion determined what I wanted.
It's all based on ordered lists (catalogs, etc), nothing new here, plenty of prior art.
Enjoy,
It's still prior art. The thesaurus in the Bank Street Writer (1984) did this after entering a couple of keystrokes. And, like several others have pointed out, command completion works the same way.
Enjoy,
I don't think Jobs would ever dare to step into a A2 meeting. Steve Wozniak is the one who will be there.
Enjoy,
Sure you might say it's useless and what we have is good enough
Not useless, but not practical either. Especially running on cheap PC hardware for the home user or your average file/print server computer running in a small company (single point of failure).
I can think of only one good reason to implement this on a stock PC. Secure computing for a defense department (and only if MS lets the IT department at the pentagon/EU whatever, decide on the record access controls).
I can think of several bad reasons Microsoft wants to implement (force?) this file system on home/small business users of windows. It all boils down to DRM and software lock-in (MS office only, OpenOffice need not apply).
(having it in a database seems to offer a large potential for interesting metadata/application interfaces to files)
I take it your not a programmer. HFS/HPFSOS2 file systems (Mac/OS2) already have a means for metadata. Hell, even the Amiga/GSOS of the 80's supported metadata. Have you even looked at the ext* inode structures? I'm not sure what you mean by application interfaces. Be more specific.
at the actual idea but assuming it is valid how would we go about doing it on Linux?
Let the programmer decide. Let the user decide to use it. In case you haven't noticed, with Linux, the user gets to decide the file system, WM, applications, etc. Could Linux incorporate a file system that enforces DRM? Yes.
Better yet. Ask yourself if the data you create today can be accessed by you 10 years from now.
My 0010 cent opinion.
Enjoy,
Moderators, parent post isn't a troll.
This is mostly how the the AS/400 implements it's DB/FS. May I add a few more to this list?
1)Break all legacy applications unless they provide a method of also mounting other file systems.
2) Reverse engineering file formats is now a thing of the past. Permanent vendor lock-in allowed.
Enjoy,
Did 1.0 even have Mozilla? Easy enough to install. Look at the OS/2 section of Mozilla development.
A difficult/buggy install should not hold this software back if it's worth using
My biggest bitch and Love against OS/2 has always been that its too hardware dependent. If you have crappy ram for instance (or a mix of different speeds) your install will always crap out. Once it installs though it's rock solid.
Enjoy,
IIRC They bought this from Sub-logic. I still have the original box at home. 5.25 for the Apple ][.
Enjoy,
Under your "userid", select homepage.
Enjoy,
Can you imagine a system that cannot do printing because it can't render graphics?
I hate defending Microsoft, but the way the printer/display interface is implimented under windows is second to none. The GDI abstracts away alot of work you would have to do to get WYSIWYG printouts. I have yet to see a Linux API handle this the way MS does. Hell, none of the Linux programming books I own even have chapters on printing.
Enjoy,
I call your FYI, and raise you 2.
:)
FYI, FYI
SCO hasn't read the terms of their own settlement. Systems derived from 4.4BSD-Lite and Lite2 are unencumbered.
I agree. Per the Unix family tree, BSD was split off into a fork in (1978) long before SCO even entered the market (Xenix). http://www.levenez.com/unix/
I'm not sure how accurate this family tree is though. They derive the linux branch from minix.
Not including the BSD branch, I would still like to hear SCO's evidence of copyright violations. Monterey didn't announce until 10/98, well after the development of the original JFS/Omni drivers IBM later contributed to linux.
grep -ri SCO (& xenix) on the linux srouce (2.4.18) only shows results in the ABI code. No violation there.
Enjoy,
FYI,
You didn't read the article, he is including the BSD's and Mac OSX.
Enjoy,
I feel like I am getting old when someone patents something that was already done in the good old days of yore. But I don't feel old!
1) Netbios/SMB in the mid 1980's covers most of his protocol discovery network claims (OSI).It also refutes any of his service provider claims if you think of the central fileserver as the provider of services (which I think qualifies).
2) Purchasing items was done through compuserve over dialup long before this patent. I still have my 1985 (5.25 floppies) Compuserve kit to prove so.
I didn't read the whole patent. I didn't see what, if any, physical medium was claimed (the damn double speak gives me a headache). If someone wants to give me an itemized claim, I can probably refute most the rest. There is no physical difference from a LAN/MAN/WAN from the internet. Only the protocol has changed.
Bob Metcalf should be consulted to refute more than I can.
Enjoy,
Would somebody please put this in Linux?
It has been there for sometime. Look up man(5) login.defs. I recommend setting CHFN_RESTRICT and using the cracklib database.
Enjoy,
Agreed, I just used it as a sample. How long before we have 32, 64, 128, and 256 instructions for memes? And when did we replace the word memes for sprites?
Offtopic, could you program a single task into a sprite (meme), and then have it do your bidding? I can't without a rules based system.
Enjoy,
Since my first born son is now into ancient wars (9 years old, and in his first history class), he is asking how Rome managed to take 2/3 of the known world.
I used the map editors in WarCraft/Freecraft to show how the Romans lost, and then won several major campaigns with thier tatics. We fought each other over the LAN, with me choosing the losing side. I used the web site here as reference to the battles:
http://www.roman-empire.net/
Along the way, I learned that the movie Sparticus (one of my favorites), does not reflect on what really happend.
Enjoy,
Just imagine a game that you can litterally do [i]anything[/i]in the game's world! The perfect game would have the capability to create a world to the extent of Star Trek's holodeck.
5 43,390918-1,00.html
This is done by the game AI, not the programmer. I can see where a programmer enters in a few rules and then lets the AI take over. It would be like merging Doom III with the "massive" rendering AI here:
http://www.popsci.com/popsci/science/article/0,12
From the article, some of the sprites just ran away from the battle on thier own.
Enjoy,