Tickle me by explaining these comments... No, actually I'd say you're failing to understand PC History. How? I was there when it happend, now I am here?
Besides that you forget that prior to the Osborne luggable when you bought a computer you got nothing bundled Your being a jerk. At the time when consumers bought an Osborne they always knew they would have to write the software themselves. Jeesh, are you from the UK? Don't bring up the sinclair, I'll toast you.
After the release of Win95, consumers needs and tastes changed How again does my (or anyone elses) choices change when we are offered only one option? We had more choices before Win95. Computers are no longer a luxury item at home for the absolute geek, they're now owned by anyone and everyone. They were a luxury item prior to 1990, and most of the people using them weren't geek (offices). After that, anyone to wanted a PC, C128/C64, Apple, Amiga etc. could buy them for less than $1000. There is an Omni magazine around that states that in 1993 the C64 was still the most prolific computer in the house. Are you trying to rewrite history again? I have Compute magazines on hand to refute your comments.
I didn't think I was starting a flame war but you added this.. The computer world changes, it's time you got used to that and stopped whining about the lack of good buggy whip manufacturers.
I'm sorry, I didn't think I was whining about anything in my comments. Just telling the truth. Can you refute it with your own facts?/. readers want to know?
But just to let you know.... I have 15 computers running at all times in my house. Four Apple's(II+,IIe, 2 gs's), two Macs (Mac LC and PowerPC), an Amiga9K and a AtariST. Along with those I have a central Linux Samba server (along with his linux brother, the wireless firewall server) providing file/print services to the two Windows (98se/2000) boxes, two wireless Linux Laptops, and of course, my own desktop (dual boots into windows 98 when I want to play WCiii,WCiv or WCv).
Do you want to know about my network? It's a really interesting mix of Token Ring, Ethernet and Appletalk. Don't you want to know how I tied them all together?
Ok then, your not a geek. You don't want to hear about my escapades of getting my older Macs online using the included appletalk drivers for Linux.
I understand that for you, no flame intended, the O/S is more important than the data you generate with your "own" computer. All..rightty then.
Osborne luggable Good insult.
In response I will say to you... \My Documents\Current User\Kiss My Ass
Prior to the unleashing of Win95, computer makers choose what software to bundle. Quite a few bundled non-microsoft applications with windows 3.x. My first 386/sx came with a media player (Audio Rack), contact management (lotus organizer), IBM DOS, PFS Windows Works, and Windows 3.11. Freebies and discounted software included CDs from Norton, Lantastic, Aol, Prodigy, Genie, Compuserve, Borland etc.
When Microsoft came out with Win95, all that competition ended when they changed the terms for what software could be bundled with Windows. They also dictated to computer makers what software could be sold with thier systems at the risk of loosing thier windows license.
Today with a windows XP PC, you have less choices in software out of the box than your average 3 CD boxed Linux distribution.
5% of our tires explode while using them. You can have replacements but we will charge you full price. By accepting our EULA, you agree to these terms. Do you Accept these terms?
Your memory has a parity error. Stac settled for 40meg along with MS buying 43meg of Stac stock. Stac is no longer around, and MS later wrote off the stock purchase.
Microsoft only had to pay 1meg per month per the settlement which wasn't enough to keep Stac viable. Do a google on "microsoft settles". Interesting reading to be sure.
BTW, sorry about the over use of the meg reference. I've been clearing my bug list for 12 hours so I can take my vacation next week. "Go coders, Go coders, Go coders". Sung to the ballmer monkey dance.
Throw in the code thats done by us for the trade shows and your pretty much correct.:)
Like a problem that affected one region, maybe 5 states, becoming a nationwide I take it you have coded for multiple time zones and regions? Nasty stuff. I did it and it works.
None taken. Yes I do work in a shop were a lot of times in order to get the client you have to code without the proper requirements.
Maybe I didn't state my point correctly. I have found, no matter how overworked I am (even my co-workers), everyone at least has time to write a minimal specification on thier own. All it takes is an hour or two and no matter how incomplete the first release is, with your own specification in hand you can produce the complete/correct version at a later time.
Under those circumstances, the choices he faces are valid. Trust me, even if you spend 60 hours a week, you aren't going to cram a properly developed product into 3 months on your own when the original timeline anticipated 2 people and 6 months.
I've never had to work at a job were management made all the decisions concerning the development stage. I guess I have been lucky in the fact that my PM's, Bosses, etc. have allowed me (or the team) to make the decisions in order to get the job done.
1) Fresh out of college with no practical experience. Are you complaining about the $50k worth of kowledge you just "learned" is useless?
2) A Married/Sports/Party guy with no time to spend exta hours in to make the project happen. You do know that being a programmer is like being an architech only your the supervisor and crew. If your not willing to stay late to make it happen, then you may not be a programmer. Have you ever slept in your office or cube?
3) A VB Warrior who just got burned because your 20+ man hour dialog sucks (user unfriendly). (Sorry, I just had to throw that in. Current history from one of our VB warriors).:)
4) A person who writes shoddy code and expects the QA Lab to catch it. If you can't send your binary to the client directly, then you shouldn't be submitting it for testing in the QA Lab.
Thats it from me. No Advice, no speeches, just a sigh.
Not that Microsoft has done anything wrong,(IMHO I think the language neutral VM is great), but has anyone besides myself looked at the object files the compiler creates? My mother codes in VB (Excel) it doesn't make her a programmer, just a accountant who uses the tools provided.
It all still boils down to x86 machine code. With.Net you may loose the ability to choose the best optimizations for your program. Of course thats true with any assembler. Has anyone besides myself look into the MS IL layer? Good, but not great.
From a embedded programmers perspective,.Net stinks. Too much overhead on low CPU/Memory systems to be usefull (Although Microsoft is selling the licenses dirt cheap). HP's Chi (tea) comes close, but no cigar. IBM's Java offering also comes close, but again no cigar. With embedded computers you still can't beat assembler and 'C'.
Not to start a flame war, but as developers I hope most of us realize that.Net still wraps around my favorite API, Win32. Just look at the DLL's that are loaded when you lauch your IL hello world program My test program loaded (GDI, GDI32, CTL3D, WIN32DLL, etc) and are all win32 libraries.
A video game console is what you expect to find in your friends and familys livingrooms connected to the TV with the 4 joysticks. Before I bought my house, I had my computers in the living room. Before there were lan parties (back in the 1980's) we had parties were the Apple ][e (or C64) with (multiple joysticks) was hooked to the computer with NTSB (TV) output. Lots of multiplayer games via diskette.
I still don't see your logic with consoles vs computers.
I don't mean to be rude (or attack you), but clarify this statement for me. If it feels like a computer, smells like a computer, and acts like a computer, what is it? A SVGA monitor and keyboard does not make a computer. Sony and Nintendo use custom made chips and components, Microsoft does not.
Just a hint. If you can trap output at the firewall, this virus opens many domain query connections when it tries to email itself (contains its own SMTP engine). This is how we tracked down the machine it had infected last night. Norton has a stand alone program to clean up the machine.
Ah, I wasn't fishing for help. I don't think there is any to be had, there are just too many symptoms and google doesn't help much when you're searching for common terms like "mozilla (lock-up freeze-up)".
There is plenty of help to be had. And your problems may not be Mozilla related. Is it a certain web-site that locks up Mozilla? If so, provide the link, I can debug. If not, I would say you need look at your KDE/SuSE setup. Have you got the latest patches?
It annoys me that new Linux users complain about the RTFM response (not you). I help new users whenever possible. My immediate suggestion would be to install GNOME from your SuSE CD's and try it out (KDM allows you to select the window environment on login). Does GNOME have the same sluggish/buggy response?
Why would someone choose Linux over Solaris, AIX, HP/UX, or Tru64? Easy: Ignorance.
Not really. Linux scales nicely on enterprise hardware. Think about it from an IT/Mangement point of view. An O/S that can run the mainframe, departmental server, desktop, and the POS terminal out front will cut maintenance, support, training, and developement costs.
The Linux toy cannot seriously be compared to a commercial, enterprise grade UNIX or non-UNIX operating system. Maybe, but this toy is being used by Google, Charles Schwab, Home Depot, E*Trade, and many more.
On my workstation I run SuSE 8.1, kernel 2.4.20, XFree 4.3.0, KDE 3.1.2, Mozilla 1.3. I have 256MB RAM and about 400MB swap. The graphics card is an original ATI Radeon All-In-Wonder.
I thought maybe I could help you, but I don't run KDE (just certain KDE apps). Have you tried surfing www.justlinux.com? You might find some more detailed help. Also, SuSE support via email might be worth a try.
As far as Mozilla goes, certain web sites do the same with mine, it all boils down to bad javascript.
I guess what you're saying is the reason Apple didn't take on Microsoft in the mass market is that they thought MS would crush them altogether. I didn't say that at all. I said that Apple never intended to take on anyone, just empower the user (Steve Jobs visionary quest and all).
but Linux desktop software is, let's be honest, still very buggy and unreliable. Particularly big programs like object frameworks, web browsers and integrated office suites. Can you be specific? I have had the opposite experience with my Linux destop.
Mac software developers on the other hand seem to aspire to clean design, stability and trouble-free operation. You might say it's their animus. I have been developing Mac Software since 1986. I now develop Linux based software. What kind of comment is this? I'm certainly not the best coder in the world, but I haven't heard any serious complaints about my Mac or Linux applications (minor bug fixes at best).
They have had ten years to compete with Microsoft, and they had a head start as well, but they have never tried to own the mass desktop market. They have always left that to Microsoft, and concentrated on winning a dedicated minority of discriminating users, compensating with high profit margins. The Apple ][ owned the market in its day. With the Mac, Apple has never strived to own the desktop market, just empower the user. You either like this fact and pay extra for a Mac, or don't. Microsoft has always looked upon any x86 competitor as a threat, and therefore has tried to kill it.
Please comment, and enjoy.
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I agree with everthing in your post. But neither you or I will be the judge in this case.
Personally I think Oracle should prove their interest in Linux and buy SCO instead of wasting their time trying to buy Peoplesoft. Peoplesoft uses Oracle as its CRM database. Oracle might be pissing off thier biggest customer. I don't know if I would buy a Linix distribution from Oracle though.
You cannot copyright or trademark an idea. You would have us believe that we can only buy cars, computers, clothes, etc. from the original company that invented them.
You can copyright methods, not ideas. Please go back to being a turd.
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Cheers for your post, yes I read all the stories. Lets discuss more.
By definition, Linux is NOT Unix (From Robert C's great ashton-tate-dbase editorial).
1) the definition of derived work. What is actually derived and what is add to or is extending something deriving from it? Did IBM derive a new idea or something based on code specific to SCO(UNIX)? I think it was new concept based on research and just happed to be devloped on AIX first.
And 2) what is the actual UNIX source code and what does SCO actualy own the rights to. That I don't know. But I can guess with Novels silence that SCO owns the rights to UNIX.
Enjoy,
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derivative works IBM contributed to Linux include NUMA, RCU, JFS, SMP
If none of these technologies were derived from existing SCO/AIX source code, doesn't that mean that it cannot be a derivative?
Case in Point. Back in the 80's, I wrote several device drivers for MS DOS. Microsoft published the specifications on how to do this in books (so did Peter Norton:). I derived none of my drivers from existing DOS source code, just book samples. I could give away my source and binaries for free without Microsoft owning them even though it was "thier" technology. If anything, the Watcom compiler I used to build the driver(s) had more restrictions placed upon me than Microsoft's OS license (FYI, royalty free distribution on the binary, not the libraries).
If I recall, IBM uses thier own compiler with AIX to build binaries. Does not the AIX compiler license overide the OS license? Does SCO even own a compiler? What comes first, the OS, the enhancement (feature), or the implementation?
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Nothing worse than someone who entered this race obviously as a joke, then goes on talk shows trying to talk seriously about issues.
...Because he's never getting out, to save tax payer money, cancel all remaining Charlie Manson parole board hearings.
Tis why I patiently wait to hear from Gallager at the debates. Did you see his platform list here:
http://sledge-o-matic.com/html/platforms.htm.
My favorite:
11.
Enjoy,
Try the live evaluation versions from SuSE here:
ftp://ftp.suse.com/pub/suse/i386/
Enjoy,
Just a suggestion, try these links for help the next time you try linux.
l ine.com/
http://www.justlinux.com/
http://www.pclinuxon
You may not get the answer you were looking for, but I've never seen anyone post a RTFM at one of these sites.
Enjoy,
Tickle me by explaining these comments...
/. readers want to know?
No, actually I'd say you're failing to understand PC History.
How? I was there when it happend, now I am here?
Besides that you forget that prior to the Osborne luggable when you bought a computer you got nothing bundled Your being a jerk. At the time when consumers bought an Osborne they always knew they would have to write the software themselves. Jeesh, are you from the UK? Don't bring up the sinclair, I'll toast you.
After the release of Win95, consumers needs and tastes changed
How again does my (or anyone elses) choices change when we are offered only one option? We had more choices before Win95.
Computers are no longer a luxury item at home for the absolute geek, they're now owned by anyone and everyone.
They were a luxury item prior to 1990, and most of the people using them weren't geek (offices). After that, anyone to wanted a PC, C128/C64, Apple, Amiga etc. could buy them for less than $1000. There is an Omni magazine around that states that in 1993 the C64 was still the most prolific computer in the house. Are you trying to rewrite history again? I have Compute magazines on hand to refute your comments.
I didn't think I was starting a flame war but you added this..
The computer world changes, it's time you got used to that and stopped whining about the lack of good buggy whip manufacturers.
I'm sorry, I didn't think I was whining about anything in my comments. Just telling the truth. Can you refute it with your own facts?
But just to let you know....
I have 15 computers running at all times in my house. Four Apple's(II+,IIe, 2 gs's), two Macs (Mac LC and PowerPC), an Amiga9K and a AtariST. Along with those I have a central Linux Samba server (along with his linux brother, the wireless firewall server) providing file/print services to the two Windows (98se/2000) boxes, two wireless Linux Laptops, and of course, my own desktop (dual boots into windows 98 when I want to play WCiii,WCiv or WCv).
Do you want to know about my network? It's a really interesting mix of Token Ring, Ethernet and Appletalk. Don't you want to know how I tied them all together?
Ok then, your not a geek. You don't want to hear about my escapades of getting my older Macs online using the included appletalk drivers for Linux.
I understand that for you, no flame intended, the O/S is more important than the data you generate with your "own" computer. All..rightty then.
Osborne luggable Good insult.
In response I will say to you...
\My Documents\Current User\Kiss My Ass
I salute you.
Enjoy (You and I need to exchange pints),
10 Cals = $1199.00. CAL = Client Access License (Microsoft's terminology for a computer that can connect to a server).
:)
~= My OO Math Macro for "Add these numbers up". Sorry, maybe I shouldn't use my own private shorthand in slashdot replies
1199.00 + 1199.00 + 999.00 for 25 CAL's (Disney needed 21).
Enjoy,
Your trying to rewrite PC History.
Prior to the unleashing of Win95, computer makers choose what software to bundle. Quite a few bundled non-microsoft applications with windows 3.x. My first 386/sx came with a media player (Audio Rack), contact management (lotus organizer), IBM DOS, PFS Windows Works, and Windows 3.11. Freebies and discounted software included CDs from Norton, Lantastic, Aol, Prodigy, Genie, Compuserve, Borland etc.
When Microsoft came out with Win95, all that competition ended when they changed the terms for what software could be bundled with Windows. They also dictated to computer makers what software could be sold with thier systems at the risk of loosing thier windows license.
Today with a windows XP PC, you have less choices in software out of the box than your average 3 CD boxed Linux distribution.
Enjoy,
Maybe not. Here are some more numbers to crunch.
:)
A) They were never a windows shop, no upgrade pricing, full pricing is $320 US per seat.
B) Need central server licenses to store files. W2k Standard product plus 10 CALs = $1199. ~= 1199. + 1199. + 999. (5 CALS).
C) New windows Admin (remember they never were a Windows shop) +- 40-60k year.
Now add it up
Enjoy,
5% of our tires explode while using them. You can have replacements but we will charge you full price. By accepting our EULA, you agree to these terms. Do you Accept these terms?
No means YES, Yes means YES.
Enough Said
Enjoy,
Your memory has a parity error. Stac settled for 40meg along with MS buying 43meg of Stac stock. Stac is no longer around, and MS later wrote off the stock purchase.
Microsoft only had to pay 1meg per month per the settlement which wasn't enough to keep Stac viable.
Do a google on "microsoft settles". Interesting reading to be sure.
BTW, sorry about the over use of the meg reference. I've been clearing my bug list for 12 hours so I can take my vacation next week. "Go coders, Go coders, Go coders". Sung to the ballmer monkey dance.
Enjoy,
Yes and No brother.
:)
Throw in the code thats done by us for the trade shows and your pretty much correct.
Like a problem that affected one region, maybe 5 states, becoming a nationwide
I take it you have coded for multiple time zones and regions? Nasty stuff. I did it and it works.
Enjoy,
No offense intended
None taken. Yes I do work in a shop were a lot of times in order to get the client you have to code without the proper requirements.
Maybe I didn't state my point correctly. I have found, no matter how overworked I am (even my co-workers), everyone at least has time to write a minimal specification on thier own. All it takes is an hour or two and no matter how incomplete the first release is, with your own specification in hand you can produce the complete/correct version at a later time.
Under those circumstances, the choices he faces are valid. Trust me, even if you spend 60 hours a week, you aren't going to cram a properly developed product into 3 months on your own when the original timeline anticipated 2 people and 6 months.
I've never had to work at a job were management made all the decisions concerning the development stage. I guess I have been lucky in the fact that my PM's, Bosses, etc. have allowed me (or the team) to make the decisions in order to get the job done.
Enjoy,
From your question I gather your either:
:)
1) Fresh out of college with no practical experience. Are you complaining about the $50k worth of kowledge you just "learned" is useless?
2) A Married/Sports/Party guy with no time to spend exta hours in to make the project happen. You do know that being a programmer is like being an architech only your the supervisor and crew. If your not willing to stay late to make it happen, then you may not be a programmer. Have you ever slept in your office or cube?
3) A VB Warrior who just got burned because your 20+ man hour dialog sucks (user unfriendly).
(Sorry, I just had to throw that in. Current history from one of our VB warriors).
4) A person who writes shoddy code and expects the QA Lab to catch it. If you can't send your binary to the client directly, then you shouldn't be submitting it for testing in the QA Lab.
Thats it from me. No Advice, no speeches, just a sigh.
Enjoy,
Not that Microsoft has done anything wrong,(IMHO I think the language neutral VM is great), but has anyone besides myself looked at the object files the compiler creates? My mother codes in VB (Excel) it doesn't make her a programmer, just a accountant who uses the tools provided.
.Net you may loose the ability to choose the best optimizations for your program. Of course thats true with any assembler. Has anyone besides myself look into the MS IL layer? Good, but not great.
.Net stinks. Too much overhead on low CPU/Memory systems to be usefull (Although Microsoft is selling the licenses dirt cheap). HP's Chi (tea) comes close, but no cigar. IBM's Java offering also comes close, but again no cigar. With embedded computers you still can't beat assembler and 'C'.
.Net still wraps around my favorite API, Win32. Just look at the DLL's that are loaded when you lauch your IL hello world program My test program loaded (GDI, GDI32, CTL3D, WIN32DLL, etc) and are all win32 libraries.
It all still boils down to x86 machine code. With
From a embedded programmers perspective,
Not to start a flame war, but as developers I hope most of us realize that
Enjoy,
A video game console is what you expect to find in your friends and familys livingrooms connected to the TV with the 4 joysticks.
Before I bought my house, I had my computers in the living room. Before there were lan parties (back in the 1980's) we had parties were the Apple ][e (or C64) with (multiple joysticks) was hooked to the computer with NTSB (TV) output. Lots of multiplayer games via diskette.
I still don't see your logic with consoles vs computers.
Enjoy,
The xBox is a VIDEO GAME CONSOLE
I don't mean to be rude (or attack you), but clarify this statement for me. If it feels like a computer, smells like a computer, and acts like a computer, what is it?
A SVGA monitor and keyboard does not make a computer. Sony and Nintendo use custom made chips and components, Microsoft does not.
Be nice with your response.
Enjoy,
Just a hint. If you can trap output at the firewall, this virus opens many domain query connections when it tries to email itself (contains its own SMTP engine). This is how we tracked down the machine it had infected last night. Norton has a stand alone program to clean up the machine.
Enjoy,
Ah, I wasn't fishing for help. I don't think there is any to be had, there are just too many symptoms and google doesn't help much when you're searching for common terms like "mozilla (lock-up freeze-up)".
There is plenty of help to be had. And your problems may not be Mozilla related. Is it a certain web-site that locks up Mozilla? If so, provide the link, I can debug. If not, I would say you need look at your KDE/SuSE setup. Have you got the latest patches?
It annoys me that new Linux users complain about the RTFM response (not you). I help new users whenever possible. My immediate suggestion would be to install GNOME from your SuSE CD's and try it out (KDM allows you to select the window environment on login). Does GNOME have the same sluggish/buggy response?
Enjoy,
Why would someone choose Linux over Solaris, AIX, HP/UX, or Tru64? Easy: Ignorance.
Not really. Linux scales nicely on enterprise hardware. Think about it from an IT/Mangement point of view. An O/S that can run the mainframe, departmental server, desktop, and the POS terminal out front will cut maintenance, support, training, and developement costs.
The Linux toy cannot seriously be compared to a commercial, enterprise grade UNIX or non-UNIX operating system.
Maybe, but this toy is being used by Google, Charles Schwab, Home Depot, E*Trade, and many more.
Enjoy,
WoW!
On my workstation I run SuSE 8.1, kernel 2.4.20, XFree 4.3.0, KDE 3.1.2, Mozilla 1.3. I have 256MB RAM and about 400MB swap. The graphics card is an original ATI Radeon All-In-Wonder.
I thought maybe I could help you, but I don't run KDE (just certain KDE apps). Have you tried surfing www.justlinux.com? You might find some more detailed help. Also, SuSE support via email might be worth a try.
As far as Mozilla goes, certain web sites do the same with mine, it all boils down to bad javascript.
I guess what you're saying is the reason Apple didn't take on Microsoft in the mass market is that they thought MS would crush them altogether.
I didn't say that at all. I said that Apple never intended to take on anyone, just empower the user (Steve Jobs visionary quest and all).
Enjoy,
Not to start an argument
but Linux desktop software is, let's be honest, still very buggy and unreliable. Particularly big programs like object frameworks, web browsers and integrated office suites.
Can you be specific? I have had the opposite experience with my Linux destop.
Mac software developers on the other hand seem to aspire to clean design, stability and trouble-free operation. You might say it's their animus.
I have been developing Mac Software since 1986. I now develop Linux based software. What kind of comment is this? I'm certainly not the best coder in the world, but I haven't heard any serious complaints about my Mac or Linux applications (minor bug fixes at best).
They have had ten years to compete with Microsoft, and they had a head start as well, but they have never tried to own the mass desktop market. They have always left that to Microsoft, and concentrated on winning a dedicated minority of discriminating users, compensating with high profit margins.
The Apple ][ owned the market in its day. With the Mac, Apple has never strived to own the desktop market, just empower the user. You either like this fact and pay extra for a Mac, or don't. Microsoft has always looked upon any x86 competitor as a threat, and therefore has tried to kill it.
Please comment, and enjoy.
I agree with everthing in your post. But neither you or I will be the judge in this case.
Personally I think Oracle should prove their interest in Linux and buy SCO instead of wasting their time trying to buy Peoplesoft.
Peoplesoft uses Oracle as its CRM database. Oracle might be pissing off thier biggest customer.
I don't know if I would buy a Linix distribution from Oracle though.
Enjoy,
I'll mod myself to troll.
Please go back to being a turd.
I meant to say, please don't be a turd. No flame intended.
You cannot copyright or trademark an idea. You would have us believe that we can only buy cars, computers, clothes, etc. from the original company that invented them.
You can copyright methods, not ideas. Please go back to being a turd.
Cheers for your post, yes I read all the stories. Lets discuss more.
By definition, Linux is NOT Unix (From Robert C's great ashton-tate-dbase editorial).
1) the definition of derived work. What is actually derived and what is add to or is extending something deriving from it?
Did IBM derive a new idea or something based on code specific to SCO(UNIX)? I think it was new concept based on research and just happed to be devloped on AIX first.
And 2) what is the actual UNIX source code and what does SCO actualy own the rights to.
That I don't know. But I can guess with Novels silence that SCO owns the rights to UNIX.
Enjoy,
derivative works IBM contributed to Linux include NUMA, RCU, JFS, SMP
:). I derived none of my drivers from existing DOS source code, just book samples. I could give away my source and binaries for free without Microsoft owning them even though it was "thier" technology. If anything, the Watcom compiler I used to build the driver(s) had more restrictions placed upon me than Microsoft's OS license (FYI, royalty free distribution on the binary, not the libraries).
If none of these technologies were derived from existing SCO/AIX source code, doesn't that mean that it cannot be a derivative?
Case in Point. Back in the 80's, I wrote several device drivers for MS DOS. Microsoft published the specifications on how to do this in books (so did Peter Norton
If I recall, IBM uses thier own compiler with AIX to build binaries. Does not the AIX compiler license overide the OS license? Does SCO even own a compiler? What comes first, the OS, the enhancement (feature), or the implementation?
Food for thought, enjoy,