> So we've had a defined standard that was, arguably, not the easiest to understand.
> THEN harddrive manufacturers started their fraud. And THEN people started complaining.
> So what, and please think about this, would be the right decision here?
As far back as I know, and this goes back before the 1970s, C.Sci boffins picked up a defined pseudostandard (that 1024 was close though to 1000 to use K, etc) for concepts that required *only* direct binary addressibility like RAM and CPU registers/caches, and all else used a base 10 definition of K right from the start - that includes tape drive storage, hard drive storage, bandwidth rates, CPU frequencies, display frequencies, screen resolution, sampling rates and so on.
The idea that 1K = 1024 for "everything in a computer" is relatively new. The old guard knew exactly when it was appropriate to use, and did not use it for concepts outside that domain. It's only since the mid 1990s that geek kids fresh out of school want to use it everywhere. Hell, go into a geek IRC channel (usually a bastion of relatively conservative C.Sci geeks) and ask how many Hertz in a 1GHz processor, and a fair number will insist it's 1073741824Hz, or that 10Mbps ethernet is 10485760bps. They'd be wrong, too.
I expect it's a metal related to these, http://www.indium.com/TIM/solutions/liquidmetal.php which are used as thermal interface materials in machines like Apple's 8 core Mac Pros. The heatsinks on those are wetted with a little of the liquid metal in place of stuff like arctic silver. While working on Mac Pros I found it's like mercury, but sticks to the processor heatspreader and heatsink base. It's liquid even in a cold room.
There's toxicity info on that site somewhere, but I'm in a rush at the moment. No doubt someone else will find it and post.
Brainfuck is inherently crystal clear in comparison to HYPERTARD.
It's a language created on the Amiga in the 1980s, named after hypercard, but completely unrelated. The only legal characters are whitespace. Tab, space, linefeed, carriage return etc.
Story of my school's life. I don't know what kicked it off, but in 1999 a group of parents got together to stop the awarding of best-in-school awards to the top students, because it had the effect (they claimed) of causing all the other students to feel they weren't as good at school. The idea being that three students would end up awarded for excelling, and seventy others in the same year would be indirectly labeled as inferior.
Within two years we had academic success awards removed, and all kinds of other awards, including ones for one total misfit who'd been caught multiple times shitting on the bleachers. He got an award for exemplary social behaviour or some such, because he went a couple months without taking a crap on school property.
Now the smart kids go without awards, but the dumb shits get an award for not smearing their own feces all over the place. Mediocrity ftw.
Cue up 20 comments going "But what about the limited write cycles, these things will fail in a month" and 500 comments replying "this is no longer an issue n00b"
My only question is... I bet steve jobs is absolutely KICKING himself now the cell's out and proven itself to be such a highly capable supercomputer on a chip. Imagine a macbook powered by something like this, 45nm, 8 cores, low power usage, cheap... it'd outstrip every laptop known to man.
My only pity is that IBM don't still make thinkpads, or we'd have 8 core cell thinkpad linux machines. Oh serendipity...
> Is Secunia presenting slanted information with the expectation it will be misused?
Yes. However Secunia only does this from time to time like most companies who realise the press is a tool to be used.
Unlike Roughly Drafted Magazine, which is the most sickening pandering fanboyism rubbish published on the net. Please. Eran gives real mac fanbois and girls a bad name
In further news, Microsoft, creator of MS Office, also do not host downloads of Openoffice.org. More news at 11. maybe. if no real news appears before then
a 1500calorie/day "healthy" eating plan had me losing about a pound a month on average. I kept it up for 9 months and shifted 10 lbs total, while following a healthy eating pyramid, you know, the kind that's drilled into kids at school. At that rate I'd have lost my entire excess weight in about 10 years, but I'd already started to slow in the last 4 months. Extrapolation would have given me about 20 years to lose my excess weight.
A 4500+calorie/day straight out atkins diet had me losing all my excess 127 lbs in a year. Same exercise as the above, same job, same lifestyle, just different eating.
Thus, you speak bullshit, and are repeating a mantra with no thought behind it.
While trying to convince my dad that the computer didn't use much power when it was asleep, so he would actually use sleep on his 667MHz Powermac G4, we found it used between 3 and 4 watts, measured at the wall, while sleeping.
He still thought that was too much, and turned it off... which showed the power usage rise to 7W - all it had to do when turned off was wait for the soft power on switch to be pressed. Go figure.
> How long... before users get a button to press when they see a speed trap? > If enough users report a speed trap at a given intersection or off-ramp, > the system could issue an alert to other drivers approaching the area. > People would love that.
It'll happen in about minus 10 years, if my experiences in Australia in the late 1990s are anything to go by.
I have an old mac laptop, a Powerbook 1400, which was sadly limited to 64MB RAM from the factory. Combined with a slow internal HD, the use of VM to get more use out of it slows it down like a dog. The solution to its limited RAM? Add a flashram PC card, make the VM page to it, and you have a pretty quick workaround.
It's a reasonably well-known hack, and I used this powerbook with flash-based VM storage from 2001 to 2003 as one of my main internet machines, browsing and image editing, and it had a real workout in that time. It's been resting for a few years, but still fires up OK. I've seen perhaps a dozen other people who've done this, and NEVER known of a flash VM card to die.
In short, the longevity issue doesn't need solving, as it isn't an issue for anything but running something like eBay's database server on.
I call bullshit 66mhz PPC can't decode an MP3 in realtime
I'm sorry, but that's just plain incorrect. My 60MHz 6100, 66MHz 6100, 66MHz 7100 and 80MHz 8100 all decode an MP3 just fine, with iTunes, running OS8.6, at any bitrate.
If they can do it with the overhead of early versions of iTunes, then they can do it easily
Not trolling, I just havent ever seen hard stats on current flash/solid state durability over time recently.
Take a 40GB hard drive, and pretend it's Flash memory. If you wrote 40GB worth of data to it every single day (with the circuitry inside a drive to spread writes out over cells evenly), then you would average 1 write per day across each cell. Flash memory can be written to a minimum of 10,000 times before dying, most is even more reliably by an order of magnitude (100,000 writes). Assuming we have crappy 10,000 write limits, we could write 40GB to the drive every day for 10,000 days, or 27 years, before failing is an issue.
Looking at the 40GB drive in one of my machines, the total writes in its uptime comes to about 800MB, which is a shade under 24 hours uptime. That's 800MB worth of writes in a day, 50 times *less* than writing 40GB to the drive every day, so a 40GB flash drive at my current usage rate could be expected to last 27 * 50, or 1350 years.
A lot longer than I have to worry about. The numbers are going to differ for some people, but the initial stats work out - few people would write to every cell every day, and even then that's decades worth of use.
I was busy watching the Conroe (which became Core 2 Duo) destroy everything AMD had to offer.
Remember that's only in synthetic benchmarks! Real world, AMD's memory bus still shreds anything intel has come up with except maybe their "Quad core" xeons, but even those are crippled by being two dual cores that choke their own buses! Despite the speed they run at, AMD is still king for real world.
I'm waiting for the RIAA to respond to their court-ordered requirement to pay legal fees to one of the people they sued, with "It's company policy not to pay out judgments against us", or something equally stupid - and then get away with it, or at least successfully stall for years or decades.
Sounds like you just have a habit of buying shitty cellphones, probably just buying them based on looks. All 3 GPS-enabled cells I've used have worked fine, including in-pocket and in car.
I give 10 minutes before the Apple fanboys descend upon this with all the excuses under the sun why this couldn't have REALLY happened, and even if it did, why it's not a problem.
It offered no features I could see beyond my Casio W41CA's capabilities.
You're making the mistake of counting features, ignoring *how* they're used. I remember back in the early 1990s, when this new world wide web thing popped up. Plenty of comments then from people who couldn't see the forest for the trees, that were much like yours - "The world wide web offers no features I could see beyond downloading.txt and.gif files like I've been able to do for 10 years already."
Sure, the web can be seen as just text and image files, but oh boy... did the presentation and access difference ever change the world. How things work really is important.
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> So we've had a defined standard that was, arguably, not the easiest to understand.
> THEN harddrive manufacturers started their fraud. And THEN people started complaining.
> So what, and please think about this, would be the right decision here?
As far back as I know, and this goes back before the 1970s, C.Sci boffins picked up a defined pseudostandard (that 1024 was close though to 1000 to use K, etc) for concepts that required *only* direct binary addressibility like RAM and CPU registers/caches, and all else used a base 10 definition of K right from the start - that includes tape drive storage, hard drive storage, bandwidth rates, CPU frequencies, display frequencies, screen resolution, sampling rates and so on.
The idea that 1K = 1024 for "everything in a computer" is relatively new. The old guard knew exactly when it was appropriate to use, and did not use it for concepts outside that domain. It's only since the mid 1990s that geek kids fresh out of school want to use it everywhere. Hell, go into a geek IRC channel (usually a bastion of relatively conservative C.Sci geeks) and ask how many Hertz in a 1GHz processor, and a fair number will insist it's 1073741824Hz, or that 10Mbps ethernet is 10485760bps. They'd be wrong, too.
I expect it's a metal related to these, http://www.indium.com/TIM/solutions/liquidmetal.php which are used as thermal interface materials in machines like Apple's 8 core Mac Pros. The heatsinks on those are wetted with a little of the liquid metal in place of stuff like arctic silver. While working on Mac Pros I found it's like mercury, but sticks to the processor heatspreader and heatsink base. It's liquid even in a cold room. There's toxicity info on that site somewhere, but I'm in a rush at the moment. No doubt someone else will find it and post.
Brainfuck is inherently crystal clear in comparison to HYPERTARD.
It's a language created on the Amiga in the 1980s, named after hypercard, but completely unrelated. The only legal characters are whitespace. Tab, space, linefeed, carriage return etc.
Story of my school's life. I don't know what kicked it off, but in 1999 a group of parents got together to stop the awarding of best-in-school awards to the top students, because it had the effect (they claimed) of causing all the other students to feel they weren't as good at school. The idea being that three students would end up awarded for excelling, and seventy others in the same year would be indirectly labeled as inferior.
Within two years we had academic success awards removed, and all kinds of other awards, including ones for one total misfit who'd been caught multiple times shitting on the bleachers. He got an award for exemplary social behaviour or some such, because he went a couple months without taking a crap on school property.
Now the smart kids go without awards, but the dumb shits get an award for not smearing their own feces all over the place. Mediocrity ftw.
Cue up 20 comments going "But what about the limited write cycles, these things will fail in a month" and 500 comments replying "this is no longer an issue n00b"
pwnied :)
My only question is... I bet steve jobs is absolutely KICKING himself now the cell's out and proven itself to be such a highly capable supercomputer on a chip. Imagine a macbook powered by something like this, 45nm, 8 cores, low power usage, cheap... it'd outstrip every laptop known to man.
My only pity is that IBM don't still make thinkpads, or we'd have 8 core cell thinkpad linux machines. Oh serendipity...
Which is the same infallible data erasure option for any media. Incineration.
Trusting data loss to just one delete command is being broken in the head.
Which is the same infallible data recovery option for any media. Multiple, cascading, incremental and offsite backups.
Trusting data to just one piece of media is being broken in the head.
> Is Secunia presenting slanted information with the expectation it will be misused?
Yes. However Secunia only does this from time to time like most companies who realise the press is a tool to be used.
Unlike Roughly Drafted Magazine, which is the most sickening pandering fanboyism rubbish published on the net. Please. Eran gives real mac fanbois and girls a bad name
In further news, Microsoft, creator of MS Office, also do not host downloads of Openoffice.org. More news at 11. maybe. if no real news appears before then
Sorry, wrong!
a 1500calorie/day "healthy" eating plan had me losing about a pound a month on average. I kept it up for 9 months and shifted 10 lbs total, while following a healthy eating pyramid, you know, the kind that's drilled into kids at school. At that rate I'd have lost my entire excess weight in about 10 years, but I'd already started to slow in the last 4 months. Extrapolation would have given me about 20 years to lose my excess weight.
A 4500+calorie/day straight out atkins diet had me losing all my excess 127 lbs in a year. Same exercise as the above, same job, same lifestyle, just different eating.
Thus, you speak bullshit, and are repeating a mantra with no thought behind it.
Sorry, you lose.
While trying to convince my dad that the computer didn't use much power when it was asleep, so he would actually use sleep on his 667MHz Powermac G4, we found it used between 3 and 4 watts, measured at the wall, while sleeping.
He still thought that was too much, and turned it off... which showed the power usage rise to 7W - all it had to do when turned off was wait for the soft power on switch to be pressed. Go figure.
> How long... before users get a button to press when they see a speed trap?
> If enough users report a speed trap at a given intersection or off-ramp,
> the system could issue an alert to other drivers approaching the area.
> People would love that.
It'll happen in about minus 10 years, if my experiences in Australia in the late 1990s are anything to go by.
> This is almost as bad as Mel Gibson (an Ozzie) playing William Wallace
Mel Gibson, the "aussie", who was born in new york.
I have an old mac laptop, a Powerbook 1400, which was sadly limited to 64MB RAM from the factory. Combined with a slow internal HD, the use of VM to get more use out of it slows it down like a dog. The solution to its limited RAM? Add a flashram PC card, make the VM page to it, and you have a pretty quick workaround.
It's a reasonably well-known hack, and I used this powerbook with flash-based VM storage from 2001 to 2003 as one of my main internet machines, browsing and image editing, and it had a real workout in that time. It's been resting for a few years, but still fires up OK. I've seen perhaps a dozen other people who've done this, and NEVER known of a flash VM card to die.
In short, the longevity issue doesn't need solving, as it isn't an issue for anything but running something like eBay's database server on.
I call bullshit
66mhz PPC can't decode an MP3 in realtime
I'm sorry, but that's just plain incorrect. My 60MHz 6100, 66MHz 6100, 66MHz 7100 and 80MHz 8100 all decode an MP3 just fine, with iTunes, running OS8.6, at any bitrate.
If they can do it with the overhead of early versions of iTunes, then they can do it easily
Not trolling, I just havent ever seen hard stats on current flash/solid state durability over time recently.
Take a 40GB hard drive, and pretend it's Flash memory. If you wrote 40GB worth of data to it every single day (with the circuitry inside a drive to spread writes out over cells evenly), then you would average 1 write per day across each cell. Flash memory can be written to a minimum of 10,000 times before dying, most is even more reliably by an order of magnitude (100,000 writes). Assuming we have crappy 10,000 write limits, we could write 40GB to the drive every day for 10,000 days, or 27 years, before failing is an issue.
Looking at the 40GB drive in one of my machines, the total writes in its uptime comes to about 800MB, which is a shade under 24 hours uptime. That's 800MB worth of writes in a day, 50 times *less* than writing 40GB to the drive every day, so a 40GB flash drive at my current usage rate could be expected to last 27 * 50, or 1350 years.
A lot longer than I have to worry about. The numbers are going to differ for some people, but the initial stats work out - few people would write to every cell every day, and even then that's decades worth of use.
I was busy watching the Conroe (which became Core 2 Duo) destroy everything AMD had to offer.
Remember that's only in synthetic benchmarks! Real world, AMD's memory bus still shreds anything intel has come up with except maybe their "Quad core" xeons, but even those are crippled by being two dual cores that choke their own buses! Despite the speed they run at, AMD is still king for real world.
I'm waiting for the RIAA to respond to their court-ordered requirement to pay legal fees to one of the people they sued, with "It's company policy not to pay out judgments against us", or something equally stupid - and then get away with it, or at least successfully stall for years or decades.
Sounds like you just have a habit of buying shitty cellphones, probably just buying them based on looks. All 3 GPS-enabled cells I've used have worked fine, including in-pocket and in car.
I think we need to mass mail to them and let them know this page of theirs is a lie.
SCO owns the core UNIX operating system, originally developed by AT&T/Bell Labs and is the exclusive licensor to Unix-based system software providers.
Apple has nothing at all to do with it.
Wow, you guys are getting quick. One minute for a denialist to chime in. I'm impressed.
I give 10 minutes before the Apple fanboys descend upon this with all the excuses under the sun why this couldn't have REALLY happened, and even if it did, why it's not a problem.
It offered no features I could see beyond my Casio W41CA's capabilities.
.txt and .gif files like I've been able to do for 10 years already."
You're making the mistake of counting features, ignoring *how* they're used. I remember back in the early 1990s, when this new world wide web thing popped up. Plenty of comments then from people who couldn't see the forest for the trees, that were much like yours - "The world wide web offers no features I could see beyond downloading
Sure, the web can be seen as just text and image files, but oh boy... did the presentation and access difference ever change the world. How things work really is important.