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Simon Pegg to Play Scotty

In response to yesterday's casting news about Chris Pine possibly taking the captain's chair for the new Star Trek movie, apparently Simon Pegg will be playing the role of Scotty. Simon Pegg is known for his role as Shaun in Shaun of the Dead and more recently for his leading role in Hot Fuzz. "Pegg joins Zoe Saldana as Uhura, Anton Yelchin as Chekov, John Cho as Sulu and Zachary Quinto as Spock in the film which reportedly, and logically, 'chronicles the early days of the Enterprise crew.' Leonard Nimoy will also put in an appearance, while Eric Bana signed up this week as the movie's villain, Nero."

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  1. The name is Shaun, not Sean! by F-3582 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    www.imdb.com is your friend.

    1. Re:The name is Shaun, not Sean! by HTH+NE1 · · Score: 3, Funny
      Other acceptable titles are:
      • L' Alba dei morti dementi
      • Muertos de risa
      • Shaun dei morti
      • Shaun et les zombies
      • Shaun of the Dead
      • Shaun of the Dead - Ein Zombie kommt selten allein
      • Tea-Time of the Dead
      • Todo Mundo Quase Morto
      • Ein Zombie kommt selten allein
      • Zombies Party

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    2. Re:The name is Shaun, not Sean! by stefanlasiewski · · Score: 4, Funny
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    3. Re:The name is Shaun, not Sean! by bn557 · · Score: 1

      While it was a hit to your karma, the 'redundant' mod just adds to the humor of your post

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  2. Oh noes by KEnderK · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The Shat is really going to hit the fan now!

  3. Script Link by AssCork · · Score: 0, Funny

    SCOTTY DIES ON PAGE 43!
    Spock kisses him ever so softly and he comes back to life - as a zombie - then Nick Frost is tasked with killing him while muttering "Can I bring any of you cunt's a drink?"

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    1. Re:Script Link by __aaclcg7560 · · Score: 2, Funny

      I would like to see Nick Frost deliver that line to the Borg queen. That would be... fascinating. :P

  4. different take on Scotty by hguorbray · · Score: 1

    Well....He will have less Gravitas -at least less than Doohan had in later years -and less gravity too......

    I'm just hoping that he will actually speak with a Welsh accent (cf. Futurama)

    After Shaun I wouldn't have been so sure about this, but Simon did a great job of character acting in Hot Fuzz and hopefully he can bring a little of the twinkle-in-the-eye humour that Doohan evinced in the TV series.

    -I'm just sayin'

    1. Re:different take on Scotty by sqldr · · Score: 1

      I'm just hoping that he will actually speak with a Welsh accent (cf. Futurama)

      well, for one thing, "i cannae change the laws of physacs, captain" is definiately scottish, but i'm confused at this one. I'm an englishman, and doing an authentic scottish accent (either glaswegian graawl or edinburgh posh) is tricky. Either he's been practicing, or he's got a lot of work to do. bollocks.. give the job to a scot! i love simon pegg, but not here!

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    2. Re:different take on Scotty by thebonafortuna · · Score: 1

      I read somewhere that James Doohan actually faked his accent while playing "Scotty"...

    3. Re:different take on Scotty by mikefoley · · Score: 1

      That's because Jimmy Doohan was Canadian.

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    4. Re:different take on Scotty by mattcoz · · Score: 1

      It's a reference to Welshy from Futurama.

      Nimoy: Nichelle! George! Walter! DeForest! [A token redshirt steps out.] Welshy!
      Fry: Welshy?
      Nichols: We did some musical reunion specials in the 2200's but the guy who played Scotty had trouble yodelling.
      Takei: Ever since then, Welshy has been a welcome participant in our escapades.

    5. Re:different take on Scotty by Schemat1c · · Score: 4, Funny

      I read somewhere that James Doohan actually faked his accent while playing "Scotty"... How strange that it wasn't his own accent. It's almost like he was... acting?
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    6. Re:different take on Scotty by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      He was from the evil Canuckistanian empire.

    7. Re:different take on Scotty by 1u3hr · · Score: 1
      well, for one thing, "i cannae change the laws of physacs, captain" is definiately scottish, but i'm confused at this one. I'm an englishman, and doing an authentic scottish accent (either glaswegian graawl or edinburgh posh) is tricky

      Doohan was Canadian, his "Scotty" accent was not his natural voice. He got a bit annoyed at losing roles later becaue people thought he really did speak like that all the time. A real actor is capable of doing lots of convincing accents; choosing one on the basis of their natural one is about as relevant as their natural hair colour.

    8. Re:different take on Scotty by Colin+Smith · · Score: 4, Funny

      How strange that it wasn't his own accent. As a real Scot, I can tell you it wasn't anyone's accent.
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    9. Re:different take on Scotty by Colin+Smith · · Score: 1

      A real actor is capable of doing lots of convincing accents; His accent wasn't remotely convincing.

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    10. Re:different take on Scotty by 1u3hr · · Score: 1
      His accent wasn't remotely convincing.

      Obviously, it was convincing to the majority of the audience. He was an actor, not a linguist (as McCoy might have said). If I were a Trekkie apologist, I might say that 300 years is certain to change accents. Most English speakers in the world now are picking up Americanisms.

    11. Re:different take on Scotty by 7Prime · · Score: 1

      But the important part was that even though it wasn't convincing as a real scottish accent, it was FUN! Everybody loved DoHann's fake scottish accent. Scotty, himself, was a characature, he wasn't meant to be serious and realistic. The blatent earth cultural stereotypes, like Scotty and Chekov, made the alien cultural stereotypes seem more realistic in comparison.

      I LOVED Pegg in Shaun and Hot Fuzz, Hot Fuzz was one of the few movies I've bought, and probably movie of the year for me. It's a bit different role, but I think he'll do fine. Just because he's not scottish doesn't mean shit. Neither was Mel Gibson, and he did it pretty convincingly (at least to an american like me who doesn't know any better). Both Pegg and Euin would have had about equal work in getting Scotty's fake accent down correctly.

      A really good actor (which I'm now convinced Pegg can be considered), should be able to pull off something like that, no matter if they're originally Swedish or Polish.

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    12. Re:different take on Scotty by 7Prime · · Score: 1

      Sure it was, it was Scotty's...

      It just wasn't DoHan's, or scottish.

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    13. Re:different take on Scotty by thebonafortuna · · Score: 1

      Oh wow, gee, thanks for pointing that out. I forgot he was acting. Reference the trailing off periods after my comment. There are ways to point out the obvious without regressing to sarcasm, by the way.

    14. Re:different take on Scotty by Schemat1c · · Score: 1

      There are ways to point out the obvious without regressing to sarcasm, by the way. Yes, but sarcasm is the most fun.
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  5. English Scotty??? by lobiusmoop · · Score: 2, Interesting

    As a Scotsman, I'm somewhat miffed that an Englishman is playing the role... This is almost as bad as Mel Gibson (an Ozzie) playing William Wallace for goodness sake!

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    1. Re:English Scotty??? by Asshat+Canada · · Score: 3, Informative

      Doohan was Canadian

    2. Re:English Scotty??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Get off your high horse (or should I say bagpipes), that's why they call it ACTING sucka.

    3. Re:English Scotty??? by Daffy+Duck · · Score: 1

      Doohan wasn't Scottish either. He wasn't even Canadian, for Pete's sake. Oh wait, yes he was.

    4. Re:English Scotty??? by ndogg · · Score: 1

      Which might actually mean that Scotty might not have such an obviously fake Scottish accent that's being spoken by someone who's actually Canadian!!! :O

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    5. Re:English Scotty??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      mels family is from america. they transplanted - his father didnt want his kids going off to vietnam. not an ozzie.

    6. Re:English Scotty??? by Amiga+Lover · · Score: 2, Informative

      > This is almost as bad as Mel Gibson (an Ozzie) playing William Wallace

      Mel Gibson, the "aussie", who was born in new york.

    7. Re:English Scotty??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, the first one was a Canadian.

    8. Re:English Scotty??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As someone who knows an english las who married a scott, yer all the sameGet off your high sheep.

    9. Re:English Scotty??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      In the words of John Campea at WWW.THEMOVEBLOG.COM

      Simon Pegg Is Mr. Scott - Great News... Or Is It?

      Simon-Pegg-ScottGood... Freaking... Goodness. Seems like the amazing Star Trek cast announcement from yesterday (Eric Bana being cast as the main bad guy "Nero") is continuing on the momentum by a HUGE announcement coming out of the Hollywood Reporter today.

      First of all, Harold and Kumar's John Cho has been cast as Mr. Sulu. Not bad... not bad. I've never been thrilled with anything Cho has done, but at the same time I've never been put off by any of his performances either... so I'm neither here nor there on that one. But the BIG news is this:

      Shaun of the Dead and Hot Fuzz star Simon Pegg has been cast as Mr. Scott. You've got to be kidding me!!! That's extremely cool news. I love Simon Pegg and seeing him move to the full blown main stream is neat to see. However... and I'm going to take a lot of flack for this... but I have to ask:

      IS THIS A GOOD THING? I'm not 100% sure it is.

      I know that every other fanboy site out there is panting like a dog at this news and think it's the best news ever, but think about it for a second. I love Pegg, but is he really the right guy for this role? Remember, I'm not asking if Pegg is great. I'm not asking if Pegg is talented. I'm not asking if you love Pegg. I'm asking if he's the right fit... is Simon Pegg really the right guy to play the role of Scotty? I'm not really convinced he is.

      Is Scoty going to be a comic relief character in the movie? Remember, in the original show, he did have some funny bits, but aside from Spock, he was also the most no-nonsense and serious character (until the later movies that is when he got really fat and jolly). The only time I've seen Pegg try to look hard and serious is in Hot Fuzz... and that didn't work... even came off as comical (even in the parts that weren't supposed to be comical).

      Please understand, I'm not saying this is a bad move... not at all. I'm just wondering if this is the right fit... and what casting Pegg in the role says about the nature of the movie itself. Maybe something... maybe nothing.

      Either way, good fit or not, it'll be fun to see Pegg up there.

    10. Re:English Scotty??? by Kelson · · Score: 3, Funny

      Yeah, and they cast a human as Spock! Given how underrepresented Vulcans are in the entertainment industry (I challenge you to name one, just one Oscar winner), it's only logical that they should cast a full Vulcan in that role!

    11. Re:English Scotty??? by Oktober+Sunset · · Score: 1

      Gibson's accent was more realistic than the storyline.

    12. Re:English Scotty??? by pete-classic · · Score: 1

      Technically, Gibson is a Yank.

      -Peter

    13. Re:English Scotty??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Do you really think it's safe to assume regional accents won't have drifted a bit by the 23rd century?
      Perhaps Scotsmen in the future will sound like Englishmen do now, and vice versa.
      Thanks to Captain Picard, we already know that 24th century Frenchmen sound like modern-day Englishmen.

    14. Re:English Scotty??? by meringuoid · · Score: 1
      As a Scotsman, I'm somewhat miffed that an Englishman is playing the role...

      Read Garth Ennis's 'The Boys'. Our hero is Wee Hughie, a Scot who is blatantly based on Simon Pegg...

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    15. Re:English Scotty??? by coaxial · · Score: 0, Redundant

      Yeah, no one can play a Scotsman like that Canadian James Doohan huh?

    16. Re:English Scotty??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You dont seem to understand, an english person playing a scot, for any scot is a grave insult.

    17. Re:English Scotty??? by TobascoKid · · Score: 0, Redundant

      Mel Gibson is American. http://imdb.com/name/nm0000154/bio

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    18. Re:English Scotty??? by soundonsound · · Score: 5, Funny

      "Brothers and sisters are natural enemies! Like Englishmen and Scots! Or Welshmen and Scots! Or Japanese and Scots! Or Scots and other Scots! Damned Scots! They ruined Scotland!"

      -"You Scots sure are a contentious people."

      "You just made an enemy for life!"

    19. Re:English Scotty??? by Bill,+Shooter+of+Bul · · Score: 5, Funny
      I do believe a one Albert Gore is Vulcan, is he not?

      Lets see:
      1. Vulcan Attributes
      2. Enjoys Science - Check
      3. Emotionless robot - Double Check
      4. Uses Logic to save the earth -Triple Check
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    20. Re:English Scotty??? by STrinity · · Score: 0, Redundant

      As a Scotsman, I'm somewhat miffed that an Englishman is playing the role... This is almost as bad as Mel Gibson (an Ozzie) playing William Wallace for goodness sake!


      Doohan was Canuckian, and Gibson's a Merkin.
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    21. Re:English Scotty??? by jonbritton · · Score: 1

      As a Scotsman, I'm somewhat miffed that an Englishman is playing the role.

      Eh, You People all look the same to us anyway. I mean, is he from the culture with the miserable food and the Guinness, the one with the miserable food and the Strongbow, or the one with the miserable food and the Otley O1, playing a guy from the one with food based on frat-hazing and dares, and Islay single malts?

      Just be happy it wasn't a guy from the place with all the great barbecue sauce and skank Budweiser...

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    22. Re:English Scotty??? by aichpvee · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      That would certainly explain the creationist bullshit.

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    23. Re:English Scotty??? by aichpvee · · Score: 1

      How do you spot Al Gore in a crowd of Secret Service? He's the stiff one!

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    24. Re:English Scotty??? by aichpvee · · Score: 1

      Doohan was Canuckian, and Gibson's a Merkin.

      Boy is he ever. "Twat" is also acceptable.

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    25. Re:English Scotty??? by Gulthek · · Score: 1

      Got that beat. Writing a letter to Paul Green in the 1940s the director of the UNC Libraries (whose name escapes me) signed it, I kid you not, "Live long and prosper"

    26. Re:English Scotty??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, he is married to a Glaswegian girl, so he's a sort of honorary Scot.

    27. Re:English Scotty??? by svunt · · Score: 1

      The original Scotty was Canadian, and Mel Gibson is American, not Australian (look it up). I understand your misgivings (I'm Australian, and I still have "the dingo oit moi boiybee" nightmares), but there's never been a Scottish Scotty, and leave us Aussies out of it :)

    28. Re:English Scotty??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      (or should I say bagpipes)

      That's low, why not make a reference to something originally Scottish? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bagpipes#History

    29. Re:English Scotty??? by some+damn+guy · · Score: 3, Insightful

      I used to laugh at Al Gore jokes... until Dec 2000 or so...

      Just haven't been as funny these last 7 years... dunno what it is...

    30. Re:English Scotty??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As a modern, civilised human being, I'm rather disturbed at the old fashioned nationalist bigotry expressed here which suggests one has to come from a nation to use its voice. Plenty of actors adopt very convincing dialects and accents that are not their own. Edward Woodward, for example, was mistaken for a Scot by Christopher Lee when filming `The Wicker Man' (he mentions the fact in an interview). Admittedly, Woodward's Scottish accent had been honed by years of rep in Scottish theatres - he'd had to get it perfect and since he was surrounded by Scots all the time, he was well placed to do so.

      Now, given that England alone has about ten times the population of Scotland, surely it makes no sense to limit yourself to just considering Scottish actors for Scottish roles?

    31. Re:English Scotty??? by RadioElectric · · Score: 1

      "The only time I've seen Pegg try to look hard and serious is in Hot Fuzz... and that didn't work... even came off as comical (even in the parts that weren't supposed to be comical)." He does "serious" at some points in Run Fat Boy Run, I thought it was really good.

    32. Re:English Scotty??? by Chelloveck · · Score: 1

      I used to laugh at Al Gore jokes... until Dec 2000 or so... Just haven't been as funny these last 7 years... dunno what it is...

      Dude, he won an Oscar last year. That makes him eligible for being the butt of jokes for at least another year. Think of it as a refresh cycle for the DRAM of the public.

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    33. Re:English Scotty??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      So?

      You must be European, or from some other region of the world where people can be considered "foreigners" even though their family has been living there for five generations.

      Doesn't work that way in the US, or Australia for that matter.

      Gibson's mother was Australian, by the way.

    34. Re:English Scotty??? by 7Prime · · Score: 1

      The important part is that he was raised over in Australia, and he developed his early way of speaking over there, which explains the tinges of an australian accent up through his early american films (Leathel Weapon, for instance). As for his ultra-Christian-bordering-on-bigotry ideals, both Australia and the US have that in spades, but probably moreso in the US.

      Since Australian is probably the closest to American besides Canadian and Welsh (Welsh people have an uncanny knack for being able to sound like Americans when they want to), it hasn't taken him very long to completely fall into a completely American way of speaking, even when he's just doing an interview.

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    35. Re:English Scotty??? by 7Prime · · Score: 1

      So what you're saying is that Al Gore invented Star Trek, too???

      j/k

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    36. Re:English Scotty??? by starwed · · Score: 1

      That was so last year, though. I mean, what's he won lately?

    37. Re:English Scotty??? by kaladorn · · Score: 1

      Hmmm. I think the English might have had something to say about Connery playing Bond and then Arthur, King of the Britons.

      If I recall, we've also had an Irishman playing Robert Roy MacGregor (Liam Neeson), an American playing William Wallace, Richard Gere playing one of Arthur's Knights, a Canadian Hero of D-Day playing the original Scotty, A Frenchman playing the Highlander, a Scotsman playing an Egyptian in the same movie, and a variety of other rather comedic cross-cultural representations.

      My cousin's a Scot with a Glaswegian accent and he's married to a cornsilk blonde from Missouri. I truly pity anyone trying to understand any offspring of that unholy linguistic union.

      So, in short, give it up. The Scots have played other nationalities (Ewan MacGregor playing some dude from a long time ago and far far away among many others) so turnabout (or turnaboot) is fair play, ye ken?

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    38. Re:English Scotty??? by elrous0 · · Score: 1

      They couldn't find a Scotsman who could read the script.

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    39. Re:English Scotty??? by elrous0 · · Score: 1

      No he was raised in New York. He didn't move to Australia until he was 12. He only developed an Australian accent to keep from getting his ass kicked. By the time he made Mad Max, he had been in Australia for less than 10 years.

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  6. Shatner is the greatest by toddbu · · Score: 1

    Say what you will about William Shatner, but I just can't ever imagine anyone else playing Kirk. His cheesy, over-the-top style will be impossible to duplicate.

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    1. Re:Shatner is the greatest by JustinKSU · · Score: 2, Funny

      What do you want, Jim Carrey?

    2. Re:Shatner is the greatest by user · · Score: 1

      >Say what you will about William Shatner, but ... His cheesy, over-the-top style will be impossible to duplicate.

      But.... so... *easy*... to.... *imitate*!

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    3. Re:Shatner is the greatest by moderatorrater · · Score: 3, Funny

      Say what you will about William Shatner That sounds like a big fat challenge...kind of like shatner...
    4. Re:Shatner is the greatest by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Did you hear that Lieutenant Uhura got an infection? William Shatner.

    5. Re:Shatner is the greatest by Rogerborg · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Those who mock the Shatner, those who dub him 'cheesy' or 'over the top' should ask themselves this: at what point during his performance of Kirk do you ever, even for one second, doubt that you are watching the captain of the starship Enterprise?

      Shatner - like Doohan - is a method actor. When the camera is on him, he actually believes that he is in command of a starship, and his belief is what drags us kicking and screaming along with him. Love him or hate him, you could never catch him playing it at one iota less than warp 9. This new guy? Pwwwpt. He's just an actor. He's not the captain of the Enterprise.

      Shatner. Is. Kirk.

      Star Trek: The Documentary Series era. Is. Shatner.

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    6. Re:Shatner is the greatest by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Shatner. Is. Kirk.

      Indeed.

    7. Re:Shatner is the greatest by David+Gould · · Score: 1

      >Say what you will about William Shatner, but ... His cheesy, over-the-top style will be impossible to duplicate.
      But.... so... *easy*... to.... *imitate*! ...badly.

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    8. Re:Shatner is the greatest by grahamd0 · · Score: 1

      Scott Bakula gave it a pretty good try.

    9. Re:Shatner is the greatest by toddbu · · Score: 1

      You can't be serious. Bakula was fabulous in Quantum Leap, but Enterprise was a disaster, just like DS9, Voyager, and for the most part TNG.

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    10. Re:Shatner is the greatest by grahamd0 · · Score: 1

      I was just commenting that Bakula tried really hard to do the Kirkesque campy, dramatic-pause laden delivery.

      I need to disagree with you on TNG though. The first and seventh seasons were pretty awful, but rest was great. Enterprise and DS9 were mediocre. Voyager was a steaming load of crap, on that we can agree.

  7. It's should've been Carson Beckett of SG Atlantis by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is a travesty.

  8. let it die by kylemonger · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I hate to say it but this isn't 1977. Your typical Trek fan has been gorged to satiety on Star Trek TV and movies. And considering the last efforts, the execrable "Nemesis" and TV's "Enterprise", nausea might be a better word for it than satiety. The cast is irrelevant at this point. Trek must be allowed to die instead of continuing in this horrible parody of life.

    1. Re:let it die by jgarra23 · · Score: 5, Funny

      I heard they cancelled Enterprise when Mr. Bakula started calling his tricorder "Ziggy"

    2. Re:let it die by moderatorrater · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Apparently they've started from scratch on everyone working on this so that there's the slightest chance of this being a decent movie.

      What I don't understand is why we need a story on every single person that's cast for a role. Do you think that, maybe in a week, we can just post one story on the entire cast instead?

    3. Re:let it die by B3ryllium · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Go watch both seasons of Spaced, and then you'll realize why this news deserves its own article on Slashdot :)

    4. Re:let it die by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      No funny mod? Thought we had a funny mod for that.

    5. Re:let it die by roc97007 · · Score: 1

      Understand completely. You're right, it's not 1966, or 1977, or 1987 or even 1993. I'm so horribly tired of Star Trek I can't even begin to express it.

      Still... I was horribly tired of that campy travesty that was the James Bond franchise until reluctantly seeing Casino Royale. The approach was fresh enough that I actually had a good time and might even see the next film.

      There's nothing really wrong with the Star Trek concept, it's been recent execution (movies and tv) that's been appallingly banal.

      This franchise reboot could really suck -- it could do for the movies what Enterprise did for Trek on TV -- finally driving the last nail into a coffin that should have been inhumed a decade earlier.

      And yet... And yet... With a fresh cast and decent writing, it could be decent. I'm not betting anything either way; just reserving judgement until the trailers start coming out.

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    6. Re:let it die by Belacgod · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Bond started sucking when they ran out of Ian Fleming novels. Casino Royale, being originally written by Fleming, restored the guiding force to the series. Expect it to suck again now that they're out of books again.

    7. Re:let it die by fiendie · · Score: 1

      I actually liked the last two seasons of Enterprise. They killed it too early as it was just getting interesting. Longer story arcs, better writing, but I digress...

      I think there are still plenty of stories to tell Star Trek universe. It's Berman's grip that nearly killed the franchise. I think everyone will agree with you on the Nemesis debacle. The TNG-cast pretty much jumped the shark by then.

      However, a fresh start with a director that doesn't have a classical Sci-Fi background could very will revive the series. There's definetly plenty of talent involved in the project.

      We'll have to wait and see.

    8. Re:let it die by roc97007 · · Score: 1

      Oh man, with all due respect, I have to disagree. Bond started sucking long before they ran out of Ian Flemming novels. Remember Moonraker? Octopussy? For Your Eyes Only? The (shudder) Living Daylights?

      If Casino Royale is a true reboot, they're free to remake/update all those early Ian Flemming novels, do them in order, so the overall story arc (yes, there is one) makes sense, and, you know, make films that don't suck.

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    9. Re:let it die by roc97007 · · Score: 1

      "The (shudder) Living Daylights?"

      Oh carp, I mean "A View to a Kill". "The Living Daylights" was ok as far as Bond films go, more closely following the original story than most of them.

      This isn't relevant to the Trek reboot, of course, because there's no original novels to use as source, and... how do I say this politely?... novels written since vary, um, wildly in quality. I would rather see well-written, original stories within the Trek universe, with cues from past works instead of slavish devotion. Of course, we'll get what we get. Will have to wait and see.

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    10. Re:let it die by aichpvee · · Score: 1

      Agreed. Except for when they cast Natalie Portman as the green chick who Kirk bangs.

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    11. Re:let it die by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      I spent three seasons wondering why he didn't jump back.

      I mean, he solved the problem, every week. He's supposed to jump back then and leave the real captain behind, right?

    12. Re:let it die by nutshell42 · · Score: 1
      Two words (actually 4): Casino Royale, Battlestar Galactica.

      It's not Star Trek that's tired and irrelevant. We're sick of Bad Star Trek, like the last two movies and Enterprise as well as half of Voyager. Star Trek is just an excellent, extensive backdrop allowing people to tell stories. If the stories suck no amount of Star Trekiness will save the series and that's what we had the last ten years.

      Give the man a chance.

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    13. Re:let it die by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      As soon as I saw he was in it I said "Oh boy, oh boy, oh boy!".

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    14. Re:let it die by fondacio · · Score: 1

      In the end, the real problem is not whoever ends up in the cast, it's with the writers: Alex Kurtzman and Roberto Orci. They also wrote the screenplays for Transformers and The Legend of Zorro. Based on their performance there, you can expect an overlong story with too much plot, adolescent humour, and paying just enough lip-service to longtime fans for them only to notice shortly after viewing the film that they have allowed themselves to be violated in some very uncomfortable places. A reboot of Star Trek sounds exactly like the kind of project they would take on and unless they have learned a thing or two in recent years, they are just going to rape a franchise again.

    15. Re:let it die by The+One+and+Only · · Score: 1

      This isn't relevant to the Trek reboot, of course, because there's no original novels to use as source

      No, there are 79 original episodes. And many of them are simply too silly, and we know how they all come out in the end. On the other hand, they could finally make The City on the Edge of Forever the way Harlan Ellison wrote it.

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    16. Re:let it die by powerpants · · Score: 1

      You sir, have hit the nail directly on the head.

    17. Re:let it die by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "I would rather see well-written, original stories within the Trek universe"

      Spock Must Die, by James Blish

      (BTW, what ever happened to the Organians? Did they evolve into Q?)

    18. Re:let it die by elrous0 · · Score: 1

      How can you be "starting from scratch" when you're using all the characters from the original series?

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  9. And Korean Sulu by richdun · · Score: 2, Informative

    And a Korean Sulu - John Cho was born in Seoul.

    1. Re:And Korean Sulu by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      For that matter, why would a character of Japanese descent have a name including a sound that doesn't occur in Japanese? (In a similar strangeness, Ricky Ricardo in _I Love Lucy_ would say "Lucy, you got some 'splainin' to do," even though Spanish never starts a word with "sp" or "st".)

    2. Re:And Korean Sulu by porcupine8 · · Score: 5, Funny

      You think that's bad? I hear Zachary Quinto is from Earth. Pssh.

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    3. Re:And Korean Sulu by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It gets worse - If I remember correctly, the dialect common around Tokyo treats the "U" sound as almost silent. So, what looks like beeru is pronounce real close to beer. Sort of like here in the US, where what looks like beer almost tastes like beer.

    4. Re:And Korean Sulu by Bertie · · Score: 1

      It does occur - it's just that it's not quite an "L" as English-speakers know it. It's somewhere between an "R" and an "L". This is the reason why Japanese people find it hard to distinguish between "R"s and "L"s in English - it's the same sound to them. Similarly, to an English speaker, an unaspirated "T", for example (such as in the word stone) has the same meaning as an aspirated "T" (such as in the word town), but in many other languages these would be two distinct sounds.

      So you can transliterate it as either an "R" or an "L" and you'll be equally wrong in either case :)

    5. Re:And Korean Sulu by grahamd0 · · Score: 1

      It's ok, he's a first generation Earthling.

    6. Re:And Korean Sulu by ephesus · · Score: 1

      So you can transliterate it as either an "R" or an "L" and you'll be equally wrong in either case :) The best point you can make. Why would you expect the sounds of the original Japanese to survive when you convert everything into roman characters? That's why it doesn't bother me when people call 'sake' (rhymes with 'day'), 'saki.' If I wanted it pronounced correctly I would just write the kanji.
  10. Re:Who??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Oooooooh you have a wife and 2 daughters! Is that supposed to imply that you have a life and can't be bothered to keep up with pop culture?

    I see you do have time to post about your ignorance on Slashdot, though.

  11. Re:Who??? by vidarh · · Score: 1

    Most of his major roles have been in British movies and series, such as Shaun of the Dead, Hot Fuzz and Spaced that hasn't really been major successes outside Britain - that's probably why you haven't heard of him.

  12. Impossible. by khasim · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The problem with making a Star Trek Babies movie is that there is absolutely NO THREAT to any of the characters.

    So what if baby Kirk is shot in the head causing him to fall into an erupting volcano at the moment the planet's sun goes nova?

    It was all a dream sequence. Or it was a clone. Or a robot. Or the evil baby Kirk from the mirror dimension.

    And the more characters you take from TOS, the less the threat is.

    It's going to be like there's a HUGE TARGET painted on the one person on the bridge that isn't in TOS. And here is chief security office Ima Goingtodie.

    1. Re:Impossible. by Generic+Guy · · Score: 4, Funny

      It's going to be like there's a HUGE TARGET painted on the one person on the bridge that isn't in TOS. And here is chief security office Ima Goingtodie.

      Well, as long as he's wearing the requisite red shirt...

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    2. Re:Impossible. by pluther · · Score: 2
      The problem with making a Star Trek Babies movie is that there is absolutely NO THREAT to any of the characters.

      Well, I'd say there are many, many problems with making such a movie, but I don't know if a complete lack of threat is one of them.

      I mean, did you, at any moment, think that any of the characters in the original movies were actually going to die?

      And even when one did, did you expect him to stay dead?

      Besides, it's grand Star Trek tradition anyway:

      "Kirk, Spock, McCoy, and Ensign Gomez beam down to a planet. Guess which one isn't coming back."

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    3. Re:Impossible. by Volante3192 · · Score: 1

      Since when, outside of Wrath of Khan, was there ever a *real* threat on ANY Star Trek: TOS character? (No, I don't count Generations...that was just ass.)

      Hell, Spock even had his brain removed and he got over that fine.

    4. Re:Impossible. by Kelson · · Score: 1

      The problem with making a Star Trek Babies movie is that there is absolutely NO THREAT to any of the characters.

      And this is different from a typical episodic series how?

      You don't watch a show like Star Trek to see how things change from the beginning of the season to the end, and worry about who's going to survive. That's for arc-driven shows like Lost, Heroes, etc. You don't watch it to see whether the heroes are going to succeed, you watch it to see how they succeed.

      This is the show that gave us the term, "red shirt," after all.

    5. Re:Impossible. by DragonWriter · · Score: 2, Interesting

      The problem with making a Star Trek Babies movie is that there is absolutely NO THREAT to any of the characters.


      Is this really an issue? I mean, seriously, was there such a threat in the series (any of them) to anyone but anonymous redshirts? None of the major cast were killed off during the series except Tasha Yar. Really, the Trek format isn't about serious threats (from the audience point of view) to major characters, even though there are occasionally such threats from the characters POV.

      Yeah, so we know they aren't going to pull (without breaking continuity, which perhaps shouldn't be considered inconceivable in a Star Trek prequel) a TWoK -- if only because reversing it in a subsequent movie has been done before; but then how many times in hundreds of TV episodes and dozens of movies has a major character death (or departure to join the Q, whatever) happened in Trek anyway? The rare occasion when it does happen it gets its power from the fact that the fans "know" its not going to happen, even if the overt situation is one which seriously threatens it.

      So, really, I don't think much is lost by making that slightly more inconceivable than normal.
    6. Re:Impossible. by raehl · · Score: 4, Funny

      This is the show that gave us the term, "red shirt," after all.

      I thought that was from College Football.

      Note for Star Trek Fans: Football is a form of athletic contest between two groups of players, each group fielding twelve* players at one time. The game is divided into a series of downs, where each team lines up on opposite sides of a brown ball called a 'football', and one group tries to take the ball and advance it past the other group, by carying or throwing the ball, without getting tackled. If they advance it far enough, they get more attempts, and eventually score. But if they don't advance the ball at least 10 yards in 4 tries, the opposing team gets the ball.

      Secondary Note for Star Trek Fans: An 'Athletic Contest' is an event in which multiple participants compete under a set of rules designed to compare the relative motor skills and/or strength/endurance possessed by the participants, although many athletic contests also include a strategy component.

      * If you are not a Star Trek fan, shhhhh.

    7. Re:Impossible. by Kelson · · Score: 1

      How is any of that relevant to the trope that regular characters are all-but guaranteed to make it through the episode, but extras have a good chance of dying horribly?

    8. Re:Impossible. by GnarlyDoug · · Score: 1
      I think you've made a good argument for why, even if well done, it will be impossible for the movie to revitalize the franchise. Even if you didn't believe the characters were going to die in the main show, you couldn't be positive. That little bit of doubt is enough for you to have enough willing suspension of disbelief to get a vicarious thrill when they are in danger. Also even if they weren't going to die, they could still suffer other hardships and changes. Fall in love, make a realization about themselves, a dark secret could be exposed, and so forth. In other words you also had the dramatic element of what life changing events and realizations could arise for a character.

      In other words, there was an element of suspence at various levels that were in play because the show was new and carving it's won path. All of that will be missing from this movie. Not only will characters not die, but they can't even have something happen or be revealed that dramatically changes the nature of the character. We know, with perfect hindsight, who these people are.

      The only way this movie can mean anything is if they set it up so that it turns into a new timeline with everything wide open again. If they don't do that then it's just another prequel.

    9. Re:Impossible. by coaxial · · Score: 1

      Secondary Note for Star Trek Fans: An 'Athletic Contest' is an event in which multiple participants compete under a set of rules designed to compare the relative motor skills and/or strength/endurance possessed by the participants, although many athletic contests also include a strategy component. See Kalifee in TOS: Amok Time.
    10. Re:Impossible. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Others have pointed out that threats of death aren't really all that believable in series television anyway.

      I'll add that this is a common problem in fiction. Any third-person POV that has a flashback can't have a believable death threat in the flashback. Nor can any first-person POV have such a threat, because the person is telling you _now_ what happened _back then_. Clearly they survived.

      That doesn't stop a skilled writer from creating suspense, nor does it prevent any number of bad things short of death from happening to a character. Happens all the time in writing and film. This movie is nothing unique in this regard.

    11. Re:Impossible. by Stormwatch · · Score: 1

      "Kirk, Spock, McCoy, and Ensign Gomez beam down to a planet. Guess which one isn't coming back."
      You just gave me a silly idea... a cameo of John Astin.
    12. Re:Impossible. by coaxial · · Score: 1

      No. The problem with Star Trek Babies is that it's Star Trek Babies. It's unoriginal, and features every freakin' character from the original series. It's pure nostalgia remake.

      And what the hell is up with prequels? Sadly, I suspect it's because Star Wars made some that made money, so that's what's hip now. ("Prequels are the new sequels baby!")

      For an in-universe gripe: how the hell is it even possible to have a story with everyone together in the past on the same ship?

      Baby Kirk: Dude! When I get my own ship, you guys are so going to be my crew!
      All except Spock: Yeah!
      Spock: Highly illogical. We will have our own careers and serve wherever Starfleet deems us most useful.
      Baby McCoy: Cram a sock in your vulcan mouth Spock!
      All except Spock: HA! HA! HA!
      *freeze frame mid laugh. roll credits. Green light two sequels and a prequel.*

      Fuck Star Trek. Give me something new. (Ironically, Galactica actually works.)

    13. Re:Impossible. by MMC+Monster · · Score: 1

      I thought the same thing before seeing _Serenity_.

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    14. Re:Impossible. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Note for Americans: that's what you call football, but the rest of the world calls that "American football"; what we call football is what you know as "soccer".

    15. Re:Impossible. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Do characters need to die in order for it to be a good movie? I always thought a good story revolved around good character development first and an interesting plot second. The worst types of movies are ones where the audience doesn't care at all for the characters. Even if you were to surprisingly kill off one of these "boring" characters, it wouldn't rescue the movie...

    16. Re:Impossible. by roc97007 · · Score: 1

      "The problem with making a Star Trek Babies movie is that there is absolutely NO THREAT to any of the characters."

      Well, maybe. My understanding of the concept is that this Trek universe is supposed to have been really and truly rebooted, by Romulan time-travelers. The new franchise is supposed to be a different time stream, where (in theory) new things can happen.

      Whether they actually take advantage of this, remains to be seen, of course. But Baby Rand, for instance, doesn't necessarily have to survive just because she has a bit part in Trek IV.

      In fact, something they could do early in the franchise to establish the new continuity, is kill off an establish character, and choose some recognizable redshirt casualty and make them a recurring character.

      I might say that I'd personally like to see more of the different types of craft in the Trek universe, less emphasis on Enterprise and it's sisters, but that would make me sound like a geek.

      I'm wondering how many of the old cues they'll keep. Will we see a return to velour shirts and micro-minis? Not that there's anything bad about that (especially the latter) but I have to wonder how much the bridge will resemble a seventies disco.

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    17. Re:Impossible. by GPL+Apostate · · Score: 1

      Even if you didn't believe the characters were going to die in the main show, you couldn't be positive.

      Well, that would have been true when people were watching the original airing of Star Trek. But few of us here watched the entire original series. I for onc only remember watching one episode live, when it was first telecast.

      It is like any other series of the time. We all knew the castaways were never going to get off Gilligan's Island. Even though they did in an episode where they ended up back on the island.

      People today who weren't there don't realize what Television was like back in the 60's. It was a live, instantaneous experience when new episodes of a program came out. But that is such a small, small fragment of the eventual Star Trek audience.

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    18. Re:Impossible. by Stormwatch · · Score: 1

      None of the major cast were killed off during the series except Tasha Yar.
      Jadzia Dax.
    19. Re:Impossible. by GPL+Apostate · · Score: 1

      I might say that I'd personally like to see more of the different types of craft in the Trek universe, less emphasis on Enterprise and it's sisters, but that would make me sound like a geek.

      And I suppose I could say that I'd personally like to see more of the different garbage dumps that just the one we saw in Sanford and Sons . But that would make me sound like a geek.

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    20. Re:Impossible. by Yehooti · · Score: 1

      If it's not a Brown Shirt, I am not interested.

    21. Re:Impossible. by Da+Cheez · · Score: 1

      Thanks for clarification. As a hardcore trekkie, I was thoroughly confused about the meaning of this "football" and "athletic contest" until you mentioned Kal-if-ee. Now if you'll excuse me, I have some meditation I must undergo to see if I can't purge this blasted ponn farr blood fever...

    22. Re:Impossible. by Mahjub+Sa'aden · · Score: 5, Informative

      And for non-American nerds, Football is a team sport played between two teams of 11 players. It is the most popular sport in the world. Football is a ball game played on a rectangular grass or artificial turf field, with a goal at each of the short ends. The object of the game is to score by manoeuvring the ball into the opposing goal. In general play, the goalkeeper is the only player allowed to use their hands or arms to propel the ball; the rest of the team usually use their feet to kick the ball into position, occasionally using their torso or head to intercept a ball in mid air. The team that scores the most goals by the end of the match wins.

      Thank you, Wikipedia.

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    23. Re:Impossible. by oldmanpanda · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Don't patronize us. We've all seen episode #45, The Gamesters of Triskelion.

    24. Re:Impossible. by azenpunk · · Score: 1

      that sounds illogical

    25. Re:Impossible. by thesandtiger · · Score: 1

      Threat isn't the only way to make drama. It's an easy way, but it's not the only way.

      With this, the question isn't, "Will they live?" it's "How will they go from being the unfamiliar versions of the characters we see in this movie to being the familiar characters we know?" Now, if they make the characters exactly as we know them already, just younger, THAT would remove a lot of opportunities for drama. The story would have to be, in and of itself, TRULY great in order for it to be worth telling if there's no character development and no threat.

      An example of this in the past is, if we ignore the truly horrific way the stories were told, Star Wars. We know that Anakin becomes Vader, we know that virtually all the Jedi die, we know Kenobi kicks Vader's ass, etc. and so on - but we didn't know *how* those events took place. In the hands of someone who wasn't a clumsy oaf like Lucas is, the story - which we already know the end to - could have been told brilliantly. Unfortunately, it was told poorly and dumbed down from what it could have been greatly.

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    26. Re:Impossible. by roc97007 · · Score: 1


      "And I suppose I could say that I'd personally like to see more of the different garbage dumps that just the one we saw in Sanford and Sons . But that would make me sound like a geek."


      I suppose you could, but I'm not sure why you'd want to.

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    27. Re:Impossible. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      chief security office Ima Goingtodie

      You mean 'Roc' Ingersol. He's to be played by Guy Fleegman, who interestingly enough also appeared in Episode 81 of the original series as "Crewman #6".

    28. Re:Impossible. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How is any of that related to red shirts?

    29. Re:Impossible. by rs79 · · Score: 1

      " Hell, Spock even had his brain removed and he got over that fine."

      Yeah but he did vote republican from that point on.

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    30. Re:Impossible. by coaxial · · Score: 1

      Just close your eyes and use your hand like you always do. ;)

    31. Re:Impossible. by aedan · · Score: 1

      Sunset Boulevard http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0043014/

      First person POV and he is found dead at the start. Doesn't stop him narrating.

    32. Re:Impossible. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You mean Serenity? HTML tags. Learn to use them.

    33. Re:Impossible. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Note for non-Star Trek fans: College is where your nerdy little brother ended up, and while occasionally non-Star Trek fans gain entrance to play "football," these few cry themselves to sleep at night while their less athletic peers enjoy freaky nerd-sex with other nerds and Cheetos.

    34. Re:Impossible. by tedrlord · · Score: 1

      Wait, they have sex with Cheetos? What the hell college did you go to?

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    35. Re:Impossible. by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      GODWIIIIIIIN!

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    36. Re:Impossible. by nutshell42 · · Score: 1
      That's all too much text:

      Football

      non-US: A game where you kick a ball with your foot.

      US: A game where you throw an egg with your hand.

      As both games include certain exceptions to that rule, if in doubt:

      non-US: Sissy players rolling around on the ground pretending to be hurt whenever an opponent's been within 20 feet.

      US: Manly players like the Quarterback (he's the one fingering the balls of the one in front of him every play) play Rugby in 40 pounds of padding.

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    37. Re:Impossible. by The+One+and+Only · · Score: 1

      In college football, a "red-shirt freshman" is someone who practices with the team and is in the program, but is ineligible to play for the first year. Since the regulations only allow four years of play, most players aren't good enough yet to reliably play their first year so they stay enrolled for five years, spend the first year in "red-shirt" status, and play the other four. This also gives them more leeway to pass all the classes they need, since they are often recruited for their athletic talent and not so much their ability to successfully undergo the academic rigors of college.

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    38. Re:Impossible. by GnarlyDoug · · Score: 1
      Not as small as you think. I didn't watch it when it first aired live. I watched it over a decade later. But since I didn't talk to or know anyone who was a fan of the show, it didn't matter. The show might as well have been newly run when I saw it.

      It wasn't all that long ago when even the VCR wasn't a common appliance, let alone the internet. People lived in an information vacuum as little as 20 years ago compared to today. Many fans of the original show are old enough to have come from a time when if you missed a show, you missed it.

    39. Re:Impossible. by Da+Cheez · · Score: 1

      Uh... no.

    40. Re:Impossible. by kaladorn · · Score: 1

      A note: Real football gives you only 3 tries.

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    41. Re:Impossible. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Jadzia, not Dax.

    42. Re:Impossible. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Uncle Soondead and Aunt Gonnabiteit?

  13. At least they'll be ready... by ndogg · · Score: 1

    ...for alien zombies.

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    1. Re:At least they'll be ready... by tcolberg · · Score: 1

      If that's the case, Pegg would have been more useful on this one episode of Enterprise called "Fusion"-- there were Vulcan zombies!

  14. Re:Who??? by Larry+Lightbulb · · Score: 1

    Dr Who has been pretty much a sucess.

  15. Maybe now by sqrt(2) · · Score: 1

    I've never seen an episode of Star Trek, or any of the movies. I loved Shaun of the Dead and Hot Fuzz though. Maybe I'll check this one out when it's on Netflix.

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    1. Re:Maybe now by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I've never seen an episode of Star Trek, or any of the movies. I loved Shaun of the Dead and Hot Fuzz though. Maybe I'll check this one out when it's on Netflix.

      How the heck did you end up on Slashdot without ever having seen a Star Trek episode or movie?
    2. Re:Maybe now by nurb432 · · Score: 1

      More then that, how does one even exist at all ?

      You may not like them, but how do you actually avoid them?

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    3. Re:Maybe now by sqrt(2) · · Score: 1

      I may have passed by an episode when it's on TV as I flip through the channels, but other than that I've never seen any. Couldn't even tell you the names of the characters.

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    4. Re:Maybe now by blackoutdustin · · Score: 1

      please proceed to the nearest customer service window, and turn in your nerd card. also, as a future warning, please refrain from commenting on the "news for nerds" forum, and be sure to have a nice day.

    5. Re:Maybe now by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not being able to name characters is fine, but seriously...3 seasons of TOS, 7 seasons of TNG, 7 seasons of DS9, 7 seasons of Voyager, 4 seasons of Enterprise, 10 movies...I've seen at least one episode of any given somewhat long-lasting series, and Star Trek is pretty exceptional (some daytime soaps and Dr. Who are probably the only things that beat it in terms of numbers of episodes). Avoiding it requires quite a bit of selectiveness.

    6. Re:Maybe now by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      I've never seen an episode of Star Trek, or any of the movies.
      And you're posting on slashdot? I find that frankly incredible.
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  16. I might just give this a chance... by downix · · Score: 3, Insightful

    When I heard of the movie project, I could do nothing but groan. "No more, Nemesis and Enterprise ruined it" was my thought. The franchise had been going down ever since the Dominion war in DS9. But, as time went on, and more details came out, I paused, and thought on it a bit. Rather than rehashing an existing concept, or trying to "expand" with jelly-sex-rubdown scenes, the producer is actually trying to reinvigorate things, but not by some highbrow concept that blew up in our faces with Enterprise and Voyager, but with a return to what makes the show stick with us after all of these years. It wasn't the TNG intellectualism, or the DS9 anti-heroism, or Voyagers attempt at survivalism, or Enterprises horrible attempt at merging all 3. It was the original series, sticking to the basic storytelling engine based on classic westerns, using Freudian psychology paired with Jung archetypes, all with the "Bandwagon to the Stars." By ripping away the layers of overdone polish and returning to the core essence of the show, then maybe, just maybe there stands a chance. Every casting choice made shows a deep understanding of this core concept. The actor choices being ideal canidates for the archetype or the psychological core element of the role being played. This gives me hope for the series I have not held for a very long time.

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    1. Re:I might just give this a chance... by dbolger · · Score: 1

      I'm sorry to say this mate, but from the end of your post, you sound like I did - just before Enterprise was first shown on television.

      My thoughts ran along the lines of "maybe this show can save Star Trek! The plot decription has so much potential, the characters sound interesting, and that guy was great in Quantum Leap! Maybe they are finally going to brush off the rubbish that was Voyager and get back to basics! Good, honest storytelling with characters you can empathise with and finally some gripping narrative, wowee!"

      When I first heard the show described, I imagined Enterprise being what Firefly actually was. Gritty, well put together stuff. No "technology saves the day" plot devices, no high-heeled models in catsuits pretending to be on screen as anything other than eye candy, no terrible storylines that don't make any sense, or "here's a time travel episode because we can't think of anything better".

      How wrong I was. Instead of the above, I got the biggest crap fest I have ever seen. For four years. Four years of pretending it was going to get better, of watching it just for the sake of watching Star Trek, and then finally, I gave up. A year before the end of that god damn terrible show, I just gave up on Star Trek completely. I was once upon a time a hardcore Trekkie, but no more. The shows will always have a place in my heart. I will always remember Trek for what it once was, but never again will I get excited about the next addition to the franchise.

      I am a fan of J.J. Abrams. I like Simon Pegg in everything I've seen him in, and the new Spock is pretty good in Heroes. I read somewere that Abrams hasn't watched the most recent few Trek films, and hasn't seen Enterprise at all, all of which bodes well for the quality of the new film. However, I refuse to get excited about it. The film will be released, and depending on the reviews I may or may not see it. If it is reviewed as particularly terrible, then I wont watch it even if its on television some night years from now.

      Star Trek has gone from being my absolute favourite show (my favourite interest, even - when I was a kid I had the action figures, models, books etc), to being just another movie being made amongst the general crap that Hollywood pumps out.

      It actually makes me sad to think of it like that, but there you go.

    2. Re:I might just give this a chance... by Dolly_Llama · · Score: 1

      paired with Jung archetypes

      Ensign what is that peace sign doing on your phasor bank console? You'd better get your head and your ass wired together, or I will take a giant shit on you!

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  17. Nero by davidc · · Score: 1

    So the villain is called Nero, eh?

    I suppose violins will be well represented on the soundtrack.

    1. Re:Nero by Bishop923 · · Score: 1

      The joke is that Neo played the Fiddle (Which isn't true either, the Fiddle was invented 1500 years too late...)
      For the programmers out there:

      Fiddle != Violin

      http://fiddleguru.com/violin_fiddle.html

    2. Re:Nero by davidc · · Score: 1

      I bow to your superior knowledge!

      Let me rephrase: Maybe the screenplay is masturbatory :-)

    3. Re:Nero by Petrushka · · Score: 1

      The joke is that Neo played the Fiddle (Which isn't true either, the Fiddle was invented 1500 years too late...)
      For the programmers out there:
      Fiddle != Violin

      Well, the bit in the brackets is accurate at least. The site you cite doesn't back you up: --

      differences between violin and fiddle music

      Note: it's not talking about differences between "violin and fiddle", but differences between violin music and fiddle music. Just for interest, from the OED:

      fiddle, n. 1. a. A stringed instrument of music; usually, the violin, but also (with defining word as in bass fiddle) applied to other instruments of the viol kind. Now only in familiar or contemptuous use.

      So, just to clarify: Fiddle == Violin.

      And Nero? You're right in the inconsequential sense that the instrument he was playing happens to have been a lyre, not a violin; but in every essential respect, historical fact matches the legend. (Except the bit about him starting the fire, which is almost certainly just wrong.)

    4. Re:Nero by starwed · · Score: 1

      I've known people who play both who would disagree. That is, clearly the instruments have all the same types of components, but the desirable properties of a fiddle and a violin are different. An instrument which is a good violin isn't a good fiddle.

  18. Stop it already - Let Kirk rest in peace! by NJVil · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Is the science fiction genre so fscking bankrupt for ideas that it needs to rehash ToS? ToS was a good enough series in its time, but who is this abomination of a movie designed to appeal to? What demographic wants to see this? Who wants to see Kirk played by anyone but Shatner? The man has all but ruined the role for anyone else. Why not take these actors and cast them in roles they can make their own instead of hamstringing them with the legacies of Nimoy and Shatner?

    It's just like the abysmally stupid "Bionic Woman" nonsense; some bonehead executive decided to trot an old standard (for which some people have nostalgia) of carbonite and to "reimagine" it for a new generation... whatever the hell that means... Or the moronic Underdog movie. Or one of any other cinematic turds splattered across the big screen in the past few years. Damn.

    There have been worlds of awesome science fiction written in the past few years that could easily be adopted to the big screen. For example, "The Golden Compass" is being released this winter and looks promising. However, what do we usually get? More of the same unimaginative crap that's driven people away from the major networks and theatres.

    1. Re:Stop it already - Let Kirk rest in peace! by Scrameustache · · Score: 1

      who is this abomination of a movie designed to appeal to? Anyone familiar with the trademark.
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    2. Re:Stop it already - Let Kirk rest in peace! by NJVil · · Score: 1

      From my admittedly small sample size of three, people familiar with the trademark are not pleased with this. All three are following the details, but none has said anything positive about this new movie. They are set in their minds that Shatner is Kirk, and will not pay to see someone else play Kirk differently (or even... worse... copy/lampoon... Shatner's... acting).

      As far as they are concerned, this is not appealing.

      As I think I said in my original post, I'm more annoyed that there is so much good fiction out there, and that there is no need to trot out the old, dead horse and beat it a few more times.

    3. Re:Stop it already - Let Kirk rest in peace! by Scrameustache · · Score: 3, Insightful

      From my admittedly small sample size of three, people familiar with the trademark are not pleased with this. And the chances that, sooner or later, these three people will pay good money to see it are... what, 100%?
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    4. Re:Stop it already - Let Kirk rest in peace! by Larry+Lightbulb · · Score: 1

      Usually it's "for the kids" - all the actors in the old series are, well, old. and they're not hot. Get young, and hot, actors in the roles, and make sure they're ones who are in the news and gossip magazines, or at least have the potential and personality to be in the gossip magazines as soon as they're in this summers blockbuster.

    5. Re:Stop it already - Let Kirk rest in peace! by Have+Brain+Will+Rent · · Score: 1

      I agree. Especially on Shatner owning the role. Still perhaps there will be a crossover with an appearance by space lawyer Denny Crane...

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    6. Re:Stop it already - Let Kirk rest in peace! by GnarlyDoug · · Score: 1
      It's not the science fiction genre that is bankrupt. It's Hollywood and the American veiwing public. They'd rather make remakes and the public would rather watch remakes. Read this discussion and you'll find plenty of posts about how it looks like this movies going to be better than expected, how it looks like it might actually be decent, etc.

      IMO these people are like (mentally/spiritually) old men. They'd rather remember an old highpoint in their life than go to the effort and possible pain that comes from experiencing new high points. This movie will allow them to remember anew the joy and fun they had when they first found the show. They can cast this into a forward looking frame, hiding from the fact that they're doing nothing more than watching the same thing over and over again.

    7. Re:Stop it already - Let Kirk rest in peace! by sdhoigt · · Score: 1

      I think Star Trek just needs to go into hibernation for a 2-3 decades.

      Then bring it back and the entire world will go ape shit.

      SD

    8. Re:Stop it already - Let Kirk rest in peace! by satellite17 · · Score: 1

      10 years ago maybe

      torrent?

      Just a thought

    9. Re:Stop it already - Let Kirk rest in peace! by jotok · · Score: 1

      ...who is this abomination of a movie designed to appeal to? What demographic wants to see this? Who wants to see Kirk played by anyone but Shatner?

      People other than you, obviously. So fortunate that you are not forced to watch.

      But you're going to anyway, aren't you?

    10. Re:Stop it already - Let Kirk rest in peace! by The+One+and+Only · · Score: 1

      On the other hand, Battlestar Galactica turned out well. Bionic Woman has potential--at least it's not another police show.

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    11. Re:Stop it already - Let Kirk rest in peace! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "And the chances that, sooner or later, these three people will pay good money to see it are... what, 100%?"

      Perhaps they will download it from torrents or something.

    12. Re:Stop it already - Let Kirk rest in peace! by elrous0 · · Score: 1

      Amen. They've so ragged out the whole Trek universe that they just need a long time and a serious reboot before even trying again. Seriously, 4 series and 5 movies from 1987-2005. Enough already.

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  19. Zachary Quinto as Spock? by portforward · · Score: 1

    I guess instead of the Vulcan mind meld or that nerve pinch that Spock uses, he is just going to use his fingers to take the top half of the skulls of Aliens.

  20. Is there a Doctor in the house? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Do we not have a Dr. McCoy yet? Is this Trek movie to be Bonesless? Stay tuned!!

  21. Wrong guy to do Montgomery Scott. by MsGeek · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Get a REAL Scot to do it. Ewan McGregor for the win. Sure, it would mean paying him silly money for it, but it would mean Ewan would get to leave his mark on not just one, but the EXACTA of geek icon movie series.

    Besides, Scotty always seemed older than everyone except Bones McCoy on TOS.

    Although one thing...could Ewan still do the thick-as-porridge Scots brogue he did in "Trainspotting" that required anyone not from north of Hadrian's Wall to put the closed-captioning on when watching the movie? One wonders.

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    1. Re:Wrong guy to do Montgomery Scott. by meringuoid · · Score: 4, Funny
      Get a REAL Scot to do it. Ewan McGregor for the win.

      Cast Obi-Wan Kenobi as Chief Engineer Montgomery Scott?

      You do realise you just exploded the brains of at least two distinct sets of geeks, right?

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    2. Re:Wrong guy to do Montgomery Scott. by Wandering+Wombat · · Score: 1

      No kidding! I mean, they CLEARLY got the first Scotty wrong, by casting an Irish-Canadian to play a Scot. Now we're getting someone who actually HAS an accent to play a Scot? INSANITY!

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    3. Re:Wrong guy to do Montgomery Scott. by Darinbob · · Score: 2, Interesting

      Get a REAL Scot to do it. Ewan McGregor for the win.

      The drawback is if Ewan insisted on doing another nude scene.
    4. Re:Wrong guy to do Montgomery Scott. by DudeTheMath · · Score: 5, Informative

      Besides, Scotty always seemed older than everyone except Bones McCoy on TOS.

      Give MsGeek a cigar! For completeness: In 1966, Doohan and Kelley turned 46, Shatner and Nimoy 35, Barrett and Nichols 34, Koenig 30, and Takei 29. I had forgotten how much older than the others Doohan was until I checked IMDB last week (The Blonde & I were rooting for Paul McGillion). If we're shooting for "eight years before" ST:TOS, Pegg is just the right age (and so is Pine, who's 27). Spock, of course, doesn't age the way humans do, so should be played by someone just about Nimoy's age; Quinto just turned 30, so that's not too far off. Yelchin is 18, which isn't too far off, but Cho is 35! Well, as long as he looks the part....

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    5. Re:Wrong guy to do Montgomery Scott. by MsGeek · · Score: 5, Funny

      Dude, as a heterosexual female I do not see this as a drawback. Far from it actually.

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    6. Re:Wrong guy to do Montgomery Scott. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      You're pretty. Will you be my girlfriend?

    7. Re:Wrong guy to do Montgomery Scott. by Tastecicles · · Score: 2, Funny

      In other news, Nicole Kidman to play Yeoman Rand. We're all boned.

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    8. Re:Wrong guy to do Montgomery Scott. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Get a REAL Scot to do it.

      Why? Doohan was Canadian.
    9. Re:Wrong guy to do Montgomery Scott. by moosesocks · · Score: 1

      I should probably point out that not all Scots talk like the characters in Trainspotting.

      The accents on the east coast (eg. Edinburgh (pronounced Edin-burra!) and Fife) are much more understandable to people from England or America. As you go west and up into the highlands, the accent gets quite a bit thicker. But even then, it isn't that difficult, save for a few words ("cow" comes to mind -- it gets pronounced "coo")

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    10. Re:Wrong guy to do Montgomery Scott. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

      This is why we can't have nice things.

    11. Re:Wrong guy to do Montgomery Scott. by sqldr · · Score: 4, Funny

      Dude, as a heterosexual female

      what, on slashdot? naaaaaah...

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    12. Re:Wrong guy to do Montgomery Scott. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I lol'ed.

    13. Re:Wrong guy to do Montgomery Scott. by Lars+T. · · Score: 1

      Dude, as a heterosexual female

      what, on slashdot? naaaaaah... Oooh, a Lesbian?
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    14. Re:Wrong guy to do Montgomery Scott. by Adam+Hazzlebank · · Score: 1

      http://xkcd.com/322/

      If only the world worked like this...

    15. Re:Wrong guy to do Montgomery Scott. by OriginalArlen · · Score: 1
      A female friend of mine had a crazy daydream for a killer movie that would make her rich beyond her wildest dreams - which were pretty wild. The working title was: "Keanu Takes A Shower".

      The script pretty much writes itself...

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    16. Re:Wrong guy to do Montgomery Scott. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Get a REAL Scot to do it.
      Unfortunately, Sean Connery is officially retired from making movies.

  22. Re:Who?? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There's no such thing as a "Native American". We all came from somewhere else.

    Actually, I was born in the US. That's as native as it gets.

  23. Not Who I Expected by coaxial · · Score: 1

    When I heard the guy from Hot Fuzz and Shaun of the Dead was going to play Scotty, I immediately thought of Nick Frost.

    Nick Frost would have been great.

  24. Please +1, Funny parent by siglercm · · Score: 1

    And I have no mod points. Damn you, /. moderation distribution!

    Funniest post I've read in a good while. Extra style points for the '*' -- reminds me of:

    Zapp Branigan: People of Earth.... Shhhhhh!

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  25. Starfleet Academy? by Megane · · Score: 1

    So with the pick of comedic actors (from what I've been reading; I don't recognize any names other than ZQ), is this going to be the long-predicted Starfleet Academy movie, with Academy as in 'Star Trek does Police Academy'?

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  26. Nick Frost needs a red-shirt cameo by Paul+Burney · · Score: 1

    I also thought Nick Frost would have been a good Scotty... Of course, Scotty didn't plump up till the movies, so I guess this makes sense.

    I'd love to see Nick Frost with a red-shirt cameo. Give him maybe one line and have him get blasted first when they land on the alien planet.

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    1. Re:Nick Frost needs a red-shirt cameo by Kenshin · · Score: 1

      In a scottish accent, "Ever heard of a shortcut?"

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  27. Icooooooooon! by Trogre · · Score: 1

    Slashdot really needs a Star Trek icon. If BeOS and the GIMP can get one, why can't the canonical nerdy TV series?

    I'm tagging this one startrekneedsanicon

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    1. Re:Icooooooooon! by Stavr0 · · Score: 1
      Are you trolling??!?

      The icon for Sci-Fi, that's Balok.

    2. Re:Icooooooooon! by Trogre · · Score: 1

      Yeah but it's still used as a generic Sci-Fi icon isn't it? Just sayin' I would have thought Trek deserved a bit more.

      Are they even making new icons any more, or did they stop around 2002?

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  28. The black dude always gets it. by edwardpickman · · Score: 0

    I just want one shot where the alien says one of their crew is going to die, so the whole whole crew turns to the one black guy on the bridge.

  29. Re:Who??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Uhhh, Shaun of the Dead wasn't a hit? What the hell you been smoking?

  30. Eric Bana? by Cloud+K · · Score: 3, Funny

    When Eric eats a Banana he becomes....

  31. I'm commenting because of Pegg by jollyreaper · · Score: 1

    I like Pegg but I've pretty much given up on all things Trek. From the stories I've heard, there's not a decent script associated with the project. That always astounds me to no end. No decent script?! That's like opening a fine restaurant without any thought given to the menu. That's like getting an orchestra together and giving no consideration to the program. Scripts are movie embryos. Without a good script to work from, the whole project is lost. It is an incredibly rare experience to have a bad script turn into a good movie. The best example I can think of is the original Star Wars where it was a collaborative effort to tell a great story. You typically need a champion to push things through and act like a general. If the general listens to advice you have Original Trilogy Lucas or LOTR Peter Jackson. If the general doesn't listen to anyone, you have nuTrilogy Lucas or Uwe Boll.

    There's no compelling script associated with the project, a story so good it stands up and demands to be told. I've heard the same thing about Indy 4, some lackluster shoddy tatter of a script that isn't even fit to use as an arse-wipe and we're supposed to be exited about the movie that results from it? Pass. This is going to be Transformers or Matrix 2 and 3, Van Hellsing, or any other craptacular, heartless, brainless, mirthless Hollywood exercise in pandering commercialism.

    Shaun of the Dead was B+, almost A material. The few deficiencies with the plotting and production were fixed with the next project, Hot Fuzz. That was solid A material there. That's quality mindless entertainment, not fillet mignon and a ridiculously expensive wine but a big, juicy burger with all the trimmings and beer to wash it down. The rest of that crap is McDonalds crap, indifferently assembled and plopped on the tray like a freshly pinched loaf.

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  32. Nimoy asked for too much money in the 2nd season. by khasim · · Score: 1

    None of the major cast were killed off during the series except Tasha Yar.

    In TOS, Nimoy was almost replaced because he was demanding something like $10,000 per episode in the 2nd season. In the end, he settled for something like $2,500 an episode.

    Now, would they have killed off Spock or just replaced the actor?

    Killing the characters in a story is one thing.

    Losing the actors to contract disputes is something else. And actors can die in real life.

    Losing an actor can be storied-over by killing their character in an episode. So there IS an element of uncertainty.

    But with Star Trek Babies, there is no risk. Even if the actor is killed in real life, they writers CANNOT kill the character.
  33. With Bobby Lee as Sulu by Trikenstein · · Score: 1

    Hotdog!

  34. Let it die in peace.. by Techogeek · · Score: 1

    I'm a trek fan though I am not really looking forward to this movie. After the flop of Nemesis things just seem to keep going down hill. After hearing that Paramount auctioned all the Star Trek props, I wonder what they will use in this movie..

  35. Sylar as Spock? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Gives new meaning to "mind meld".

  36. T'Pol? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In a fit of dyslexia, I thought you wrote Blalock

  37. Re:Who??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Spaced was a great show, especially from a geek point of view. Pegg played a comic book artist who played a lot with his Playstation. At some point he worked at a comic book store owned by a guy named Bilbo (played by Bill Bailey, look him up). He had to quit because of how he felt about Phantom Menace...

    He was hired to another comic book store, owned by Bilbos archrival. Soon he noticed he missed Bilbo and was subsequently lured back by Bilbo. He quit by saying to the owner "Babylon 5 sucks!".

    That's good television!

  38. ...I can see it now: by etwills · · Score: 1

    [Scotty turns to landing party member] You've got red on your shirt!

    (...engages cloaking device)

  39. Paul Mcgillion... by Akaihiryuu · · Score: 2, Interesting

    ...is who I was hoping to see at Scotty. AKA Dr. Beckett on Atlantis. The characters (Scotty and Beckett) are supposed to be from the same place in Scotland, while the actors (Doohan and Mcgillion) are both from the Vancouver. Paul's already got the accent down, and I think he even looks like a young Doohan. This sentiment was echoed by Doohan's son Chris (who was going to try for the role himself until he saw Paul audition). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_McGillion

    1. Re:Paul Mcgillion... by Barryke · · Score: 1

      Agree!
      Paul McGillion!

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    2. Re:Paul Mcgillion... by tbannist · · Score: 1

      Indeed, that would have been excellent casting.

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  40. Personal stories worked for BSG by Dr_Barnowl · · Score: 1

    The new Battlestar Galactica did well for being off screen for several decades.

    The series is overwhelmingly about the people involved, and not the technology. This is the key to all good science fiction, all good stories.

    My wife is an excellent barometer of good sci-fi. Anything she even bothers watching is good. Everything she bothers watching has the same key characteristic - it's about people, not technology. The technology just serves as a way of putting people in a situation that you wouldn't find credible in traditional fiction. You use it as a "what-if?" enabler.

    Firefly got this right. The technology is just a backdrop. The characters do not innovate their way out of tight corners. The most interesting conflicts are between the principal characters.

    Voyager increasingly got this wrong. Many stories were overwhelmingly about pulling a technological rabbit out of a hat, solving problems with technology. We're geeks ; we're already sold on the idea that you can solve problems with technology. It doesn't make for challenging viewing without a personal angle.

    e.g.

    Voyager is in a mess. Lt. Torres reverses the polarity of the deflector dish and saves the day.
    vs
    Voyager is in a mess. Lt. Torres chooses to reverse the polarity of the deflector dish, even though she knows that it will destroy a fluffy kitten. She laments the Klingon side of her personality that finds fluffy kittens deeply offensive, because she secretly enjoyed pushing the button. She starts to have dreams about putting kittens in a blender and drinking the result.

  41. For future refrence by Mana+Mana · · Score: 2, Insightful

    When one of these lists-of-unknowns rolls out invariably again, can one of you brilliant posters roll out a web page with jpgs of these folks and get yourself modded informative! Ahhh, please. It's a drag to copy and paste and search repeat.

  42. Mr. Scott is James Doohan by SL+Baur · · Score: 1

    The ladies were all sleeping with Gene Roddenberry, Leonard Nimoy did a decent job as Spock, but Mr. Scott is the ideal we all dreamed of being -- the guy who makes things work while having impossible demands made on his resources and abilities. James Doohan did a brilliant job with him. From the Trouble with Tribbles - "He called me a tin-plated dictator with delusions of grandeur? So that's when you hit him, Mr. Scott? No Sir. He called the Enterprise a garbage scow and that's when I hit him." to the Andromedans and "What are you drinking, Mr. Scott? It's, um, well it's green!"

    RIP James Doohan, you inspired me to become an engineer and it was a pleasure to meet you briefly.

    I haven't been inside a US theater in a decade, but I'll probably go see this out of loyalty to "classic" Star Trek[1]. I will change my mind if Mr. Scott is tainted.

    [1] The best Star Trek movie was the first one. The long scene where Kirk was being brought up to the Enterprise via shuttle was for us real (and older) die hard fans and I *loved* it. Amazing that a "You Must Be New Here" scene actually made it to the big screen ...

  43. OT: Simon Pegg on Derren Brown by PhotoGuy · · Score: 1

    For Simon Pegg fans, there's an entertaining clip of him from Derren Brown's show, where Derren messses with his mind a bit. (A great demonstration of hypnosis, suggestion, NLP, and such techniques.)

    It really got me into Derren Brown; very classy and entertaining fellow; I'm surprised he's not known in North America at all (or am I...)

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  44. I ror'd by DwarfGoanna · · Score: 1

    If I had points today, I'd correct this injustice.

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  45. I'll take your slashdot card now. by DwarfGoanna · · Score: 1

    You can clean out your desk on Monday.

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  46. Korean Sulu??? by Intellectual+Elitist · · Score: 1

    No one seems to be complaining that they've cast a Korean to play the Japanese Mr. Sulu...?

  47. Scotty drinks a beer at the Winchester by Picass0 · · Score: 1

    Now we need a cameo by Ed: "Can I get any of you cunts a Romulan Ale?"

  48. falcon rocket by SoyChemist · · Score: 1

    Elon Musk will play the villian. He will try to cremate Scotty and launch him into orbit with a Falcon rocket. On a side note, Richard Branson should be cast as Moonraker in the next James Bond movie.

  49. Algore as Spock by viridari · · Score: 1

    "Vulcan attributes" And he bleeds green!

  50. Re:Who??? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    He was also the 'Q'-type character in Mission: Impossible III.

  51. Chekov??? by kehren77 · · Score: 1

    Can someone explain to me how Chekov is going to be in this movie?

    I was under the impression that Chekov was significantly younger than Kirk and the gang. I know that Koenig is really only a few years younger than Kirk, but if they were at at the Academy together that doesn't say much for Chekov's career in Star Fleet to be an ensign when one of his classmates is already captain the fleet's flagship. Even if Chekov was in his first year and Kirk in his last, I would think Chekov would have at least made lieutenant.

    Am I the only one who thinks this is odd?