Perhaps they've run out of inventory. Hopefully this means the long-rumoured Meego device is just around the corner in time for Christmas? After all, the Symbian ^3 refresh happened.
If KDE weren't fiddly to install on Windows it might have received more 'love'. But with the recent speculation of a kdelibs-Qt merger, who exactly needs LibreOffice?:)
Soldering issues aside, a user replaceable SSD does stand a good chance to replace hard disks in netbooks. Apple's "planned obsolescence" is one for their marketing team.
The point of the article was that the cost per GB became too great as manufacturers relented and stuck Windows on them. But with prices falling, 64GB may well be a sweet spot. We're talking internal storage here and for moderate use that's plenty for many regular folks.
'The cloud', network shares and external terabyte USB disks can serve as external storage and for the target netbook user, a silent, light machine with no spinning parts is the point.
yep, that's what's made me very sceptical about the whole maemo platform. There was a hacker edition for n770 but it was essentially abandonware after the release of the n800.
What needed an overhaul was the build infrastructure, ala regular distros. Meego devices ought to be powerful enough to self host too as in the bsd 'make world' scenario via a mounted filesystem or cross compiled from a networked machine.
Things may have changed with the meego alliance. I hope i'll be presently surprised...
initiatives such as this and nokia's efforts with Qt for meego/symbian allow for iPad form factors in a 'desktop' OS. I see a trickle down effect where instead of rewriting an application for an embedded toolkit, applications can be re-skinned for small devices and touch input. Same gtk+/Qt toolkit, different l&f.
Following the success of iPad, Macbook Air will be discontinued. Instead, Apple will release an ARM netbook running OSX for the rest of us. Something OEMs have been discouraged from doing as Windows7 requires x86. Stealing thunder from ChromeOS.
multi-core A4 CPU, touchscreen, keyboard and trackpad, OSX-lite for ARM. iOS apps via the store will be available via a compatibility layer.
All the OSX-ARM hardware drivers are available for Darwin courtesy of iOS. OSX apps can be recompiled via universal binaries.
This is listening to one's customers who like the idea of an iPad but would prefer the fallback option of a 'real computer' with a mouse/keyboard and the OSX experience. Stick in an open bootloader or Xen and you may even have a few slashdotters buy 'em!
symbian is controlled by a foundation too. None of that prevents other vendors deserting the platform in droves. It will take a brave hardware vendor not to use android.
Well, you basically have 2 choices. The first being to start with a new platform like ios or android. The disadvantage being you can't run any 'legacy' apps.
The second being to retrofit an existing one. My money would be on kde rather than windows. It has been modernised in the 4.x release with plasma. Plus, thanks to nokia's efforts with meego and symbian, Qt is already touch ready.
Where I live, outside the US, the N97 is somewhat popular but outsold by iPhones.
mine is symbian but not Nokia! The Vivaz was available on a $29AU/mth plan. Comparably specced iPhones and Androids were more like $50/mth.
Where Nokia ought to be concerned by Android is at the low-end where it's been allowed to stagnate by churning out S60v3 'dumb' phones, with seemingly no competition.
As long as Flash runs slow, hardware manufacturers will continue pushing the envelope. This drives multi-core ARM, produces better mobile GPUs. I welcome the day my home 'desktop' is a phone I simply dock into a tv and switch OSes via a hypervisor like vmware are developing.
Yes it seems like a 50-50 solution. In exposing Android APIs they seem to be supplementing Dalvik, which still has the patent liability from Oracle.
Another solution would be to purge Android of dalvik altogether. Run a native mono CLR on the underlying Linux and host the Android API and Java language support on top of Mono.
Crazy talk? It's pretty much what Jeroen at IKVM.NET does - implementing Java SE on top of CLR. Google and Novell could, I'm sure, have a working port of Android up and running in a matter of months.
Nokia tried that with Maemo on the N900. Linux & Gtk with niche components. A single vendor solution with not much interest outside of hackers. What they really needed was something that would mesh well with their existing bread-and-butter - Symbian.
It turns out those OO abstractions found in iOS (objective-c) and Android (Java) are well suited to GUI development. So Nokia did the next best thing and bought Qtopia.
So if you want a natively compiled, patent free, open source environment you have two possibilities - Symbian AND Meego. Both using a widely used FOSS toolkit in Qt. In the spirit of the Neo Freerunner, the symbian folks are even volunteering a port to an open hardware design based on the Beagleboard!
yes i was being somewhat tongue in cheek, with the proviso that android and ios are flavors of the month. Still, i think the roadmap for symbian^4 looks promising as a complement to meego.
Symbian... Nokia are still (perhaps barely) alive and shipping.
There's an effort, "Wild Ducks" to port it to 'generic' (ARM) hardware, i.e. Beagleboard. It might make a nice tablet OS alternative to Android, for those who prefer writing software in Qt, if someone would port it to the touchbook.
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Perhaps they've run out of inventory. Hopefully this means the long-rumoured Meego device is just around the corner in time for Christmas? After all, the Symbian ^3 refresh happened.
Qt already has it's own office suite - KOffice.
If KDE weren't fiddly to install on Windows it might have received more 'love'. But with the recent speculation of a kdelibs-Qt merger, who exactly needs LibreOffice? :)
Soldering issues aside, a user replaceable SSD does stand a good chance to replace hard disks in netbooks. Apple's "planned obsolescence" is one for their marketing team.
The point of the article was that the cost per GB became too great as manufacturers relented and stuck Windows on them. But with prices falling, 64GB may well be a sweet spot. We're talking internal storage here and for moderate use that's plenty for many regular folks.
'The cloud', network shares and external terabyte USB disks can serve as external storage and for the target netbook user, a silent, light machine with no spinning parts is the point.
I prefer this one given the response it provoked.
if apple aren't interested in maintaining it, please Larry, ask your friend Steve for the code and the openjdk 'soylatte' community will do the rest.
yep, that's what's made me very sceptical about the whole maemo platform. There was a hacker edition for n770 but it was essentially abandonware after the release of the n800.
What needed an overhaul was the build infrastructure, ala regular distros. Meego devices ought to be powerful enough to self host too as in the bsd 'make world' scenario via a mounted filesystem or cross compiled from a networked machine.
Things may have changed with the meego alliance. I hope i'll be presently surprised...
initiatives such as this and nokia's efforts with Qt for meego/symbian allow for iPad form factors in a 'desktop' OS.
I see a trickle down effect where instead of rewriting an application for an embedded toolkit, applications can be re-skinned for small devices and touch input. Same gtk+/Qt toolkit, different l&f.
i'm not sure how tacking an english word onto a Spanish one makes sense.
Following the success of iPad, Macbook Air will be discontinued. Instead, Apple will release an ARM netbook running OSX for the rest of us. Something OEMs have been discouraged from doing as Windows7 requires x86. Stealing thunder from ChromeOS.
multi-core A4 CPU, touchscreen, keyboard and trackpad, OSX-lite for ARM. iOS apps via the store will be available via a compatibility layer.
All the OSX-ARM hardware drivers are available for Darwin courtesy of iOS. OSX apps can be recompiled via universal binaries.
This is listening to one's customers who like the idea of an iPad but would prefer the fallback option of a 'real computer' with a mouse/keyboard and the OSX experience. Stick in an open bootloader or Xen and you may even have a few slashdotters buy 'em!
i hate to break it to you but ios (obj-c) and android (java) don't endorse user apps in c++ either. C# or bust!
China did
It's 'MIPS compatible' but includes Hardware-assisted x86 emulation for running Longene, China's Windows-like OS.
Kind of makes you wonder, if national security wasn't at stake, why India wouldn't just team up.
symbian is controlled by a foundation too. None of that prevents other vendors deserting the platform in droves. It will take a brave hardware vendor not to use android.
what, like Insider Trading?
Pretty sure it's illegal.
I don't get the 600 pixel limit either.
More puzzling is that the iPad isn't widescreen - as a media consumption device i'd expect 720p content to display without scaling.
In the original version, or in Yankee revisionism, Mr Lucas? :-)
Nope, it's an advertisement for the undead - 'Skeletons help you walk like Asimov'.
Well, you basically have 2 choices. The first being to start with a new platform like ios or android. The disadvantage being you can't run any 'legacy' apps.
The second being to retrofit an existing one. My money would be on kde rather than windows. It has been modernised in the 4.x release with plasma. Plus, thanks to nokia's efforts with meego and symbian, Qt is already touch ready.
Where I live, outside the US, the N97 is somewhat popular but outsold by iPhones.
mine is symbian but not Nokia! The Vivaz was available on a $29AU/mth plan. Comparably specced iPhones and Androids were more like $50/mth.
Where Nokia ought to be concerned by Android is at the low-end where it's been allowed to stagnate by churning out S60v3 'dumb' phones, with seemingly no competition.
As long as Flash runs slow, hardware manufacturers will continue pushing the envelope. This drives multi-core ARM, produces better mobile GPUs. I welcome the day my home 'desktop' is a phone I simply dock into a tv and switch OSes via a hypervisor like vmware are developing.
Think in-house corporate applications all over the world. Do a job search for 'swing'.
Yes it seems like a 50-50 solution. In exposing Android APIs they seem to be supplementing Dalvik, which still has the patent liability from Oracle.
Another solution would be to purge Android of dalvik altogether. Run a native mono CLR on the underlying Linux and host the Android API and Java language support on top of Mono.
Crazy talk? It's pretty much what Jeroen at IKVM.NET does - implementing Java SE on top of CLR. Google and Novell could, I'm sure, have a working port of Android up and running in a matter of months.
Nokia tried that with Maemo on the N900. Linux & Gtk with niche components. A single vendor solution with not much interest outside of hackers. What they really needed was something that would mesh well with their existing bread-and-butter - Symbian.
It turns out those OO abstractions found in iOS (objective-c) and Android (Java) are well suited to GUI development. So Nokia did the next best thing and bought Qtopia.
So if you want a natively compiled, patent free, open source environment you have two possibilities - Symbian AND Meego. Both using a widely used FOSS toolkit in Qt. In the spirit of the Neo Freerunner, the symbian folks are even volunteering a port to an open hardware design based on the Beagleboard!
Mods on cRaCk?
This nit-picking grammar-nazi post has nothing to do with Ubuntu nor Windows 7 and yet it's scored "begs the question (Score:5, Informative)"
-1 Offtopic.
yes i was being somewhat tongue in cheek, with the proviso that android and ios are flavors of the month. Still, i think the roadmap for symbian^4 looks promising as a complement to meego.
Symbian... Nokia are still (perhaps barely) alive and shipping.
There's an effort, "Wild Ducks" to port it to 'generic' (ARM) hardware, i.e. Beagleboard. It might make a nice tablet OS alternative to Android, for those who prefer writing software in Qt, if someone would port it to the touchbook.