You have to ask yourself the (deliberatley skewed left by me) question "Is the lure of money so great on me that I would leave my country to work somewhere where they are kidnapping people exactly like me?
This isn't an opportunity. You aren't "helping shape a newborn government" or whatever. Even if you're Christian, Iraq is the oldest place on earth. If you need the money, do it. Otherwise, don't.
I wonder what OS it runs? It's almost bedtime I'm just copying mp3s over to the mp3 player, no time to RTFA!
Seriously though, this is cool, but what happens when the guy falls off the board and it smacks him in the head? All that extra weight has to transfer into some kind of force on impact. This kind of thing would feature better at a tech conference or display rather than a surfing comp up north (I live in Sydney).
You mean, assuming they actually realise it's a self destruct dvd? What if they don't? What if their analysis labs take more than say five or six hours to process something? (Let's assume the guy has been carrying around the dvd for a few hours before capture)
Everyone here will be gibbering about how much this sucks for rental movies and blah blah blah! WHO CARES!
This is an immensley kickass way of protecting ultra sensitive data. Especially for espionage situations. Operative gets caught with a DVD of sensitive files or somesuch? Damn sorry you can't decrypt 4gb 1024 bit PGP in under 8 hours!
Movie studios could probably cut down on staff stealing promo editions and leaking them onto the net before they are released. I'm not saying they could eliminate it, but it would sure as hell cut down on it!
"The only thing a liberal has to do to become a conservative is to not change views for twenty years"
Or something similar. The point is, Netscape was crap by 4.7, and Internet Explorer was fresh, new, fast and hade the exact same pricetag.
But now, Internet Explorer is, well, you know how it is:P and Mozilla is coming back in a big way. Fast, clean, lots of new features (I'm not going to call it fresh), and lots of choice.
I think this time, with Mozilla being in the hands of the OSS community, and not a corporation, it will stay on top of Internet Explorer for a long time to come (well at least I hope so).
I hate to be the Devil's Avocado here, but if they're trying to stop a certain thing from happening, and their reasoning is "Look, it happens so much! It's futile! You need to not do this anymore!", shouldn't they already have lots of evidence to prove it?
At the moment (I didn't RTFA) aren't they saying "Look! It happens so much! Well...we think it does...I'm sure that if we ask people they will give us the evidence we need!"
I just got out of bed (:r !date gives Tue Jun 15 09:46:03 EST 2004) and it looks like the question has already been answered, but I'd like to provide my input as well (even if the questioner probably isn't looking at the thread anymore).
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To me, the blurb is slightly misleading. Whoever wrote the href tags did it so "editorial" was there, but analysis wasn't. People miss that.
Being a true slashdotter, I daren't RTFA, thus I'm not disputing the truth of what the guy says, but people who do read the article should take everything said with a fairly large grain of sodium.
Editorial means subjective, and a true "analysis" would be objective.
You raise a good point, and yet I doubt that the cost of subscribing to SpamHaus will be passed down to you. The article mentions the maximum price as $14,500. Which would be for a company say (in relation to your example), the size of AOL.
Even if a small ISP who can't afford to simply swallow the cost passed it down to customers, you'd only be seeing a tiny increment on your monthly bill . And by tiny I am thinking in the figure of 10 or 20 cents. Do the math.
Small ISP "FooNet" has 1000 customers. They qualify for the lower brackets of SpamHaus subscription. Lets say the subscription costs $190 (from the article). Each user will only be paying $0.19cents more a month. Multiply that by 12, and thats an addition of $2.28 dollars a year for some very good spam protection.
"Put a copy of the firmware in ROM... as soon as the button is pressed it reverts to that. Very simple. I can't think of a single reason not to do something like that."
Maybe I can help. I can think of at least two or three reasons.
1. Reflashing the firmware from ROM is the first thing you do after you steal a phone. It removes any trace of the phones previous owner is gone. In some cases, including the IMEI.
2. If you leave a copy of the firmware on the phone, suddenly anyone who wants to hack with the firmware, it becomes a lot easier. A whole underground society exists of people who hack their phones. Where do they get the firmware? People who work at places like Motorola leak it to them. If phone companies started putting firmware on their phone, you'd have people releasing company design secrets at that exact second.
Hmm that only looks like two reasons. Nevertheless, I think I've proved my point:)
I didn't read the RTFA, but it seems you didn't even read the summary! The public access lists remain, i.e. the cost is not passed down to the little guy.
The money is only demanded from companies using SpamHaus. Much like lots of the other really good things on the internet. For example AVG antivirus is free for home users, but if you want to use it in your business, it'll cost you a fee.
The pricing scheme looks pretty fair also, I'm guessing the lowest price is for smaller-ish businesses, while the high prices are for the big companies using it.
I doubt the moderators will see this, and as such I doubt much of the slashdot crowd will either. But I find your attitude rather close minded.
There is this wonderful invention, for all of the Unices/Linux distributions out there. It's called SVGAlib. You can use it in conjunction with apps like mplayer and links, and view images and watch movies in a CLI interface. No X involved.
And it has nothing to do with your prosecution complex that people who use CLI instead of a GUI (I'm saying this as a three year XFCe user) are elitist or whatever. Setting up SVGAlib is really simple, and most CLI apps that you would think need the ability to view graphical things (Movies, images) have an option to use SVGAlib.
Blanket block of all outgoing port 25 traffic. If you want your port 25 enabled, you go to a specific section of the Optus website, enter your login/pass and click "I Accept" on an agreement type thing, and click "Unblock my port 25".
Done. Techies who want their own mail dealies get them, and people who get infected and deployed as spambots go nowhere.
Parent reminds me of the Futurama episode where they connect to the internet, and Leela ends up in a sex chatroom.
One of the chatters looks over at Leela, his head suddenly turns into a blank white circle, it turns, and Leela gets a;).
Yet another way for people to snoop my phone conversations. I seriously doubt any encryption you could implement on a mobile phone's processor for transmitting voice would be more than trivial to crack. SSH yes, mobile banking, yes, but no way is there you can encrypt my voice conversation.
Suddenly the concept of wardriving has become a lot more interesting. "VoIP wireless hotspot" suddenly becomes synonymous with "Blackmail hole".
Sure, the goal of the project is very admirable. More compatibility, no matter where (as long as it isn't breaking things) is a good thing.
But why didn't these uni students spend their time helping the projects that are already there. Now, we have an extra project, using existing tools (presumably hacked to be better), and now the existing tools have to find out what hacks were used to make their improvement.
These guys have put themselves an unwanted middleman in the compatibility/innovation process, and it annoys the hell out of me.
Yeah. My friend heard on the news that kids were using Quake to train as killers. He spent about $10,000 on computers as a "training camp" for local high school kids (the plan was to take over the city).
Boy was he astounded when all the rocket-jump training didn't work as planned.
This is pretty rediculous if you ask me. People in America give away their privacy rights all the time, without any worry. Most of the YRO stories on slashdot are just about that. But when a half respectable company like google decides to provide a free service, which you aren't obligated to use people go crazy.
I don't understand it. If you can't handle an automated script putting some ads in your emails from a simple world relation algorithm, maybe you should just, not use it?
Nobody raised this size of a ruckus over Orkut's similar cookie features, especially considering they hold a far larger quantity of personal information than GMail ever will.
Being a bit of a cellular freak (ask anyone who knows me) I did some checking on that IMEI...
Firstly, if this isn't an April Fool's joke, that IMEI is from a very new phone. Odd's are, its a 3GSM/WCDMA phone or a Nokia Series 60 judging by the config of the IMEI.
And as such, all I have to say for anyone who attempts to find this phone, good luck. It's a new phone, which means pretty much as soon as it's reported stolen, its unlocatable, thanks to your friendly local cell provider.
If you're an American, don't bother replying to this post, Americans have no idea about cellular tech.
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You have to ask yourself the (deliberatley skewed left by me) question "Is the lure of money so great on me that I would leave my country to work somewhere where they are kidnapping people exactly like me?
This isn't an opportunity. You aren't "helping shape a newborn government" or whatever. Even if you're Christian, Iraq is the oldest place on earth. If you need the money, do it. Otherwise, don't.
I wonder what OS it runs? It's almost bedtime I'm just copying mp3s over to the mp3 player, no time to RTFA!
Seriously though, this is cool, but what happens when the guy falls off the board and it smacks him in the head? All that extra weight has to transfer into some kind of force on impact. This kind of thing would feature better at a tech conference or display rather than a surfing comp up north (I live in Sydney).
You mean, assuming they actually realise it's a self destruct dvd? What if they don't? What if their analysis labs take more than say five or six hours to process something? (Let's assume the guy has been carrying around the dvd for a few hours before capture)
Everyone here will be gibbering about how much this sucks for rental movies and blah blah blah! WHO CARES!
This is an immensley kickass way of protecting ultra sensitive data. Especially for espionage situations. Operative gets caught with a DVD of sensitive files or somesuch? Damn sorry you can't decrypt 4gb 1024 bit PGP in under 8 hours!
Movie studios could probably cut down on staff stealing promo editions and leaking them onto the net before they are released. I'm not saying they could eliminate it, but it would sure as hell cut down on it!
Rock on, I say.
There is a guy here on slashdot, and his sig is
:P and Mozilla is coming back in a big way. Fast, clean, lots of new features (I'm not going to call it fresh), and lots of choice.
"The only thing a liberal has to do to become a conservative is to not change views for twenty years"
Or something similar. The point is, Netscape was crap by 4.7, and Internet Explorer was fresh, new, fast and hade the exact same pricetag.
But now, Internet Explorer is, well, you know how it is
I think this time, with Mozilla being in the hands of the OSS community, and not a corporation, it will stay on top of Internet Explorer for a long time to come (well at least I hope so).
I hate to be the Devil's Avocado here, but if they're trying to stop a certain thing from happening, and their reasoning is "Look, it happens so much! It's futile! You need to not do this anymore!", shouldn't they already have lots of evidence to prove it?
At the moment (I didn't RTFA) aren't they saying "Look! It happens so much! Well...we think it does...I'm sure that if we ask people they will give us the evidence we need!"
I just got out of bed (:r !date gives Tue Jun 15 09:46:03 EST 2004) and it looks like the question has already been answered, but I'd like to provide my input as well (even if the questioner probably isn't looking at the thread anymore).
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Yup. I can attest to that. Being part of a GPU design team myself.
If only we hadn't have used the goatse man as part of our tech presentation on the big night, we might still be around.
To me, the blurb is slightly misleading. Whoever wrote the href tags did it so "editorial" was there, but analysis wasn't. People miss that.
Being a true slashdotter, I daren't RTFA, thus I'm not disputing the truth of what the guy says, but people who do read the article should take everything said with a fairly large grain of sodium.
Editorial means subjective, and a true "analysis" would be objective.
You raise a good point, and yet I doubt that the cost of subscribing to SpamHaus will be passed down to you. The article mentions the maximum price as $14,500. Which would be for a company say (in relation to your example), the size of AOL.
:P
Even if a small ISP who can't afford to simply swallow the cost passed it down to customers, you'd only be seeing a tiny increment on your monthly bill . And by tiny I am thinking in the figure of 10 or 20 cents. Do the math.
Small ISP "FooNet" has 1000 customers. They qualify for the lower brackets of SpamHaus subscription. Lets say the subscription costs $190 (from the article). Each user will only be paying $0.19cents more a month. Multiply that by 12, and thats an addition of $2.28 dollars a year for some very good spam protection.
Now that I think about it, where do I sign up?
"Put a copy of the firmware in ROM... as soon as the button is pressed it reverts to that. Very simple. I can't think of a single reason not to do something like that."
:)
Maybe I can help. I can think of at least two or three reasons.
1. Reflashing the firmware from ROM is the first thing you do after you steal a phone. It removes any trace of the phones previous owner is gone. In some cases, including the IMEI.
2. If you leave a copy of the firmware on the phone, suddenly anyone who wants to hack with the firmware, it becomes a lot easier. A whole underground society exists of people who hack their phones. Where do they get the firmware? People who work at places like Motorola leak it to them. If phone companies started putting firmware on their phone, you'd have people releasing company design secrets at that exact second.
Hmm that only looks like two reasons. Nevertheless, I think I've proved my point
I didn't read the RTFA, but it seems you didn't even read the summary! The public access lists remain, i.e. the cost is not passed down to the little guy.
The money is only demanded from companies using SpamHaus. Much like lots of the other really good things on the internet. For example AVG antivirus is free for home users, but if you want to use it in your business, it'll cost you a fee.
The pricing scheme looks pretty fair also, I'm guessing the lowest price is for smaller-ish businesses, while the high prices are for the big companies using it.
I doubt the moderators will see this, and as such I doubt much of the slashdot crowd will either. But I find your attitude rather close minded.
There is this wonderful invention, for all of the Unices/Linux distributions out there. It's called SVGAlib. You can use it in conjunction with apps like mplayer and links, and view images and watch movies in a CLI interface. No X involved.
And it has nothing to do with your prosecution complex that people who use CLI instead of a GUI (I'm saying this as a three year XFCe user) are elitist or whatever. Setting up SVGAlib is really simple, and most CLI apps that you would think need the ability to view graphical things (Movies, images) have an option to use SVGAlib.
In other news, Satan has declared if this global ice-age spills over, into hell, he will sue those responsible for loss of what he calls
"When Hell freezes over bonds".
Hell stocks were down two points on the news.
Optus (Australia) has a very good system.
Blanket block of all outgoing port 25 traffic. If you want your port 25 enabled, you go to a specific section of the Optus website, enter your login/pass and click "I Accept" on an agreement type thing, and click "Unblock my port 25".
Done. Techies who want their own mail dealies get them, and people who get infected and deployed as spambots go nowhere.
Parent reminds me of the Futurama episode where they connect to the internet, and Leela ends up in a sex chatroom. One of the chatters looks over at Leela, his head suddenly turns into a blank white circle, it turns, and Leela gets a ;).
Yet another way for people to snoop my phone conversations. I seriously doubt any encryption you could implement on a mobile phone's processor for transmitting voice would be more than trivial to crack. SSH yes, mobile banking, yes, but no way is there you can encrypt my voice conversation.
Suddenly the concept of wardriving has become a lot more interesting. "VoIP wireless hotspot" suddenly becomes synonymous with "Blackmail hole".
It's projects like this that really piss me off.
Sure, the goal of the project is very admirable. More compatibility, no matter where (as long as it isn't breaking things) is a good thing.
But why didn't these uni students spend their time helping the projects that are already there. Now, we have an extra project, using existing tools (presumably hacked to be better), and now the existing tools have to find out what hacks were used to make their improvement.
These guys have put themselves an unwanted middleman in the compatibility/innovation process, and it annoys the hell out of me.
I hope I'm wrong, but a 10,000 user trial doesn't actually sound that impressive when you say that there are three products being tested.
I doubt that they are going to give each user 3 cards to test, it's not realistic. So that means that it's really more like 3 ~3330 user tests...
Yeah. My friend heard on the news that kids were using Quake to train as killers. He spent about $10,000 on computers as a "training camp" for local high school kids (the plan was to take over the city).
Boy was he astounded when all the rocket-jump training didn't work as planned.
This is pretty rediculous if you ask me. People in America give away their privacy rights all the time, without any worry. Most of the YRO stories on slashdot are just about that. But when a half respectable company like google decides to provide a free service, which you aren't obligated to use people go crazy.
I don't understand it. If you can't handle an automated script putting some ads in your emails from a simple world relation algorithm, maybe you should just, not use it?
Nobody raised this size of a ruckus over Orkut's similar cookie features, especially considering they hold a far larger quantity of personal information than GMail ever will.
I side with this guy.
Can you imagine how catastrophic it would be if the public got a hold of these "blue" LEDs?
Those blue guys from the Intel ads would have a field day!
Being a bit of a cellular freak (ask anyone who knows me) I did some checking on that IMEI...
Firstly, if this isn't an April Fool's joke, that IMEI is from a very new phone. Odd's are, its a 3GSM/WCDMA phone or a Nokia Series 60 judging by the config of the IMEI.
And as such, all I have to say for anyone who attempts to find this phone, good luck. It's a new phone, which means pretty much as soon as it's reported stolen, its unlocatable, thanks to your friendly local cell provider.
If you're an American, don't bother replying to this post, Americans have no idea about cellular tech.
Does anyone else see this as just another thing thinkgeek can sell, caffienated?
"...to running a MOSIX cluster"
Imagine a beowu-- wait...hmm...