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Short Text Messages In Mid-Air

bahree writes "The BBC is running an interesting story on how Nokia is making a mobile that lets you write short text messages in mid-air. The messages are written using a row of LEDs fitted on the rear cover of Nokia's forthcoming 3220 phone. A motion sensor in the phone makes the lights blink in a sequence that spells out letters when the handset is waved in the air."

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  1. Innovation? by BWJones · · Score: 4, Insightful

    OK, the social engineering that is going on here is getting out of control. It's bad enough that you have someone talking on their phones in the elevator/restaurant/movie theatre or on the subway behind you about all sorts of things (many of which are quite personal), but now we are going to get people gesticulating madly, waving their arms back and forth to send messages.

    Lets have some real innovation, yes? Rather than fun and games with LEDs, what I would like to see some real innovation in in terms of interaction with cell phones much like iChatAV (prevents having to remember phone numbers etc...), whereby you could call someone wherever they may be over TCP/IP or have servers automatically negotiate phone calls through traditional land lines if the receiver of the call is not available on the iChatAV equivalent. It could be relatively easy to establish a hierarchy of places to contact a person starting with VOIP, then progressing on down to sending a voice to text message at the very last.

    Right now at least, we do have phones (V600) that will automatically negotiate networks (so I can have one phone to travel with internationally rather than having to keep two or three depending upon the networks), but most of these phones have maddening interfaces and that in of itself could use some thought and effort. Look, placing GUI interfaces on lots of stuff is OK if it streamlines your operation of the device, but the phone companies and even automobile manufacturers are using lousy GUI interfaces to perform simple tasks. (I absolutely refuse to consider the new BMW's because of that stupid GUI that has to be navigated through three screens to change the radio station or move the seat or change the temperature.

    Sorry for the rant.

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    1. Re:Innovation? by kaltkalt · · Score: 3, Funny

      I agree 100%. Innovation my ass. Next will be combining a LED-waving-messaging phone with a camera and an mp3 player. Oooooh.... wowwww.... I gotta have thaaaaaaaat. How fucking clever.

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    2. Re:Innovation? by gregmac · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Look, placing GUI interfaces on lots of stuff is OK if it streamlines your operation of the device, but the phone companies and even automobile manufacturers are using lousy GUI interfaces to perform simple tasks.

      Maybe it's just the programmer in me, but there are many MANY device that I look at and think "wow, I could design such a better interface for that..". Even on my phone, there's a few tiny things I'd like to change (defaults, the dictionary for T9 input, placement of some menu items) but can't. A lot of things are trivially menu options, but probably left out because it would make menus too long and complicated looking.

      It would be nice if these developers used open source, and let people modify firmware on their phones or other devices. But I'll just go back to my day dreaming now..

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    3. Re:Innovation? by Vihai · · Score: 5, Funny

      When you let it fall by accident... will it write "OUCH!" while falling?

    4. Re:Innovation? by coopaq · · Score: 5, Funny

      Only if I can get the Hello Kitty version!

    5. Re:Innovation? by wfberg · · Score: 1

      It could be relatively easy to establish a hierarchy of places to contact a person starting with VOIP, then progressing on down to sending a voice to text message at the very last.

      I've got a special number that I can program to route people to several of my real phone numbers (ringing simultaneously if I want to, different numbers at differents times in the week, etc.) - if I don't get to the phone at all, you can leave a voicemail message (or decide to text me). I imagine that whichever country you're in, there are "universal messaging" services that provide the same sort of functionality. Maybe not as cool as VOIP on your PCS phone, but then it would also have to do WiFi, find open hotspots etc.

      Right now at least, we do have phones (V600) that will automatically negotiate networks (so I can have one phone to travel with internationally rather than having to keep two or three depending upon the networks), but most of these phones have maddening interfaces and that in of itself could use some thought and effort.
      I'm at a bit of a loss here.. All GSM phones I know of are perfectly capable of selecting which network they should use, and on most you can select networks you prefer (e.g. because the network it picks because it's a partner of your own provider charges higher roaming charges - unlikely, but it does happen).

      Look, placing GUI interfaces on lots of stuff is OK if it streamlines your operation of the device, but the phone companies and even automobile manufacturers are using lousy GUI interfaces to perform simple tasks. (I absolutely refuse to consider the new BMW's because of that stupid GUI that has to be navigated through three screens to change the radio station or move the seat or change the temperature.

      Abdo-fucking-lutely. I only wish my phone had a "skinnable" UI, or was open source, or at least some way to change the damn UI from always requiring one buttonmash to many for menial tasks. That's why I love the fact that my mp3 player (an Archos jukebox) has third party open source firmware to replace the stock firmware. Its UI is a lot better, even though it's made by geeks and no marketing decisions went into it.

      Also, tomorrow I will be purchasing one of them nifty smart phones that runs (GASP) pocketpc, because at least you can rip out the firmware and dick around with it, or do stuff like buy a $16 voice dialling application to extend the functionality of the thing. Plus, no more T9, just tap or jog text.. When the need arises I can even buy a GPS module and plug it in..

      Now, a way to have it run linux...

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    6. Re:Innovation? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dude. You are sooooo last week's news. mp3? Ogg, man...

    7. Re:Innovation? by fiannaFailMan · · Score: 5, Funny
      but now we are going to get people gesticulating madly, waving their arms back and forth to send messages.
      You'd better not go to Italy then!
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    8. Re:Innovation? by Pantheraleo2k3 · · Score: 1

      Perhaps you will find this useful. It's about putting Linux in a Compaq iPaq Pocket PC. With enough mucking around, you might be able to make it run on your XDA.

      http://mstempin.free.fr/linux-ipaq/

    9. Re:Innovation? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thanks dude. I needed a laugh today.

      Somebody mod this up as funny!

      -BWJones

    10. Re:Innovation? by avalys · · Score: 2, Interesting

      BMW IDrive system is a great idea and works nearly flawlessly, but only once you've been using it for a few days. Once you're familiar with where all the settings are, you start to realize the benefits.

      A) Your posture can remain essentially the same: left hand on the wheel, right hand on the IDrive controller. Rather than having to lean forward or sideways to be able to reach a certain button, all you have to is flick your wrist.

      B) You don't have to look all over the dash to adjust something. Looking away from the road towards the IDrive screen is only about a 15 degree eye movement, compared with the right-and-down head movement you need to look at controls on the dash.

      C) The IDrive controller uses tactile feedback to indicate when you've reached the end of a menu, or when you've passed into a different set of options. Once you've been using the system for a while, this makes using it nearly subconscious because your muscle memory handles most of the work.

      D) The system gives you much more control over minor options that aren't adjustable in most cars: for example, you can adjust how much heat from the heated seats goes to your back, and how much goes to your butt.

      I think the IDrive system is the one of the best recent examples of true innovation from the auto industry. It took a lot of guts on BMW's part for them to switch to it, but I'm glad they did.

      And their cars still handle like bats out of hell. :)

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    11. Re:Innovation? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      Damn. And you thought cell phones in movies were obnoxious before.... I just want a cell phone where I can simultaneously text message the entire movie theater at once:

      SIERRA TANGO FOXTROT UNIFORM!

      ... and see how long it takes for them to figure it out.

    12. Re:Innovation? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      It should be a hit in Italy!

    13. Re:Innovation? by snooo53 · · Score: 4, Insightful
      I too am disappointed that more companies don't make devices that let you configure things yourself. I too wish I could tweak menus and defaults. To me personally, it doesn't matter if it's open source or not... but it would be nice to have more control.

      I guess I can see a reason why companies don't like to do this... because inevitably people who manage to break their phones will complain and bog down the tech support/return centers. But all this could be solved by simply having a "reset button". Put a copy of the firmware in ROM... as soon as the button is pressed it reverts to that. Very simple. I can't think of a single reason not to do something like that. People would love having that much control of their phone. Look at how popular ringers and backgrounds have become.

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    14. Re:Innovation? by thedillybar · · Score: 1
      I agree...BUT...

      What is Nokia's largest market?
      Ages 15-21.

      Will they attract some of this market and get some additional customers?
      Unforunately, yes.

      Until a large portion of the population want (and know they want) what you're asking for, and are willing to pay money for it, the mainstream cell providers just aren't going to provide it. It's simply not worth their time and money unless more people are interested.

    15. Re:Innovation? by Siniset · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I think that a lot of gui and interface problems have to do with patent and copyright infringement. So it would be nice if people used some form of open source in gui design. Too many design decisions are based on not wanting to infringe on other people's intellectual property. At least that's my two cents

    16. Re:Innovation? by Tandoori+Haggis · · Score: 3, Funny

      "Innovation my ass"

      No doubt the mobile co's will start encouraging people to use airtime for exchanging regular jpg updates from "live" within their colon. Then there wil be "womb with a view". Instead of belly button piercings, there will be mini view cams and the images will be broadcast via wireless and BB will be able to spy on stuff that belly buttons see.

      Er wait BB = Big Brother, BB = Belly Button...

      We need BBB's = Belly Button Beannies - to stop BB's spying on people...

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    17. Re:Innovation? by ohsoot · · Score: 1

      This is the first time I've heard IDrive and flawlessly in the same sentence.

    18. Re:Innovation? by pHDNgell · · Score: 1

      And their cars still handle like bats out of hell. :)

      While I can agree to this point, I can't trust any aspect of my safety to an operating system designed for day planners.

      Luckily, there are other car vendors, so if I ever wear out my BMW and find out there aren't any non-windows models, I've got some good options.

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    19. Re:Innovation? by yiantsbro · · Score: 1

      Actually I kind of like this. A whole new way to tell someone to 'Fuck Off'. Especially useful for passing cars.

    20. Re:Innovation? by pantherace · · Score: 3, Interesting
      Well, right now there seems to be a perception that many options is too complex for people. (Looks squarely at the GNOME camp, Firefox programmers & the like.) (Not to mention while firebird is a good browser, their basics only is contradicted: what good is a 'home' button, while useful buttons like font +/- are not even available. (sorry about the digression, but that's similar to what lots of phones are doing: my phone won't let me set T9 input as default for example.))

      Honestly though, those options don't hurt people. Those who know what they want will find them, and those who don't won't generally. (There will be some people who do all the time.) But as long as it's limited to things like interface, there isn't a problem, because it will not actually interfere with the operation of the phone as a phone.

    21. Re:Innovation? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      BMW IDrive system is a great idea and works nearly flawlessly, but only once you've been using it for a few days.

      So, iDrive is like Gnome 2.6?

    22. Re:Innovation? by tdcockers · · Score: 1

      >Lets have some real innovation, yes?

      improved signal tx/rx instead of fancy colours, ringtones, flashing leds, cameras, and changeable cases would do me just fine

    23. Re:Innovation? by radio.cgt · · Score: 1

      wouldn't it be nice if people could post about what IS in the article, instead of moaning about what ISN'T in it? This has to be my no.1 gripe about /., grrrrr.

    24. Re:Innovation? by avalys · · Score: 1

      iDrive doesn't have anything to with your safety. It doesn't control the engine, brakes, steering, or even the turn signals and wipers.

      The worst thing that could happen if iDrive crashed would be your radio and AC turning off. It has no control over anything outside of the passenger compartment.

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    25. Re:Innovation? by gujo-odori · · Score: 3, Interesting
      Maybe it's just the programmer in me, but there are many MANY device that I look at and think "wow, I could design such a better interface for that..".


      It's not just the programmer in you, it's the "Hater of design so bad that it could have been pumped from a port-a-potty" in you :-)


      For example, take my Nokia phone. Please. The hardware is OK, but the UI is horrible. I lived in Japan for years, and my first cell phone there, in 1996, had a better user interface than any Nokia I've seen since (never saw one in Japan, the Japanese brands own the market lock, stock, and two smoking Pringle's cans, and it's not just protectionism; they're *a lot* better than the competition).


      My wife got a Samsung, and while I don't think it's as good as the Japanese domestic phones either, it beats the crap out of my Nokia on every point. I know what my next cell phone will be.


      Japan is not known at all for UI design in PC software, but when it comes to UI design in gadgets, Japan is without peer.

    26. Re:Innovation? by dknj · · Score: 1

      Even on my phone, there's a few tiny things I'd like to change (defaults, the dictionary for T9 input, placement of some menu items) but can't.

      My Toshiba VM4050 T9 dictionary learns as I type and lets me create my own menus (very useful). Moral of this story: get a better phone.

      -dk

    27. Re:Innovation? by SinaSa · · Score: 5, Interesting

      "Put a copy of the firmware in ROM... as soon as the button is pressed it reverts to that. Very simple. I can't think of a single reason not to do something like that."

      Maybe I can help. I can think of at least two or three reasons.
      1. Reflashing the firmware from ROM is the first thing you do after you steal a phone. It removes any trace of the phones previous owner is gone. In some cases, including the IMEI.
      2. If you leave a copy of the firmware on the phone, suddenly anyone who wants to hack with the firmware, it becomes a lot easier. A whole underground society exists of people who hack their phones. Where do they get the firmware? People who work at places like Motorola leak it to them. If phone companies started putting firmware on their phone, you'd have people releasing company design secrets at that exact second.

      Hmm that only looks like two reasons. Nevertheless, I think I've proved my point :)

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    28. Re:Innovation? by tzanger · · Score: 2, Interesting

      You forgot the most important -- storing two copies of firmware means either a) more money spent on flash that is used so very infrequently or b) less memory for cutesy ringtones or another lame-ass game.

    29. Re:Innovation? by Fred_A · · Score: 1

      You might want to check the Symbian models before going to the Dark Side. Even the ones from Nolia (such as this one) should be worth investigating.

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    30. Re:Innovation? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      To the comment: "Right now at least, we do have phones (V600) that will automatically negotiate networks (so I can have one phone to travel with internationally rather than having to keep two or three depending upon the networks), but most of these phones have maddening interfaces and that in of itself could use some thought and effort."

      You responded, in part: "All GSM phones I know of are perfectly capable of selecting which network they should use..."

      My response: This is not true all of the time. The poster pointed out "...(so i can have phone to travel with internationally..." International GSM networks operate at a slightly different GSM bands. For example, in the UK, the service is provided over GSM 900/1800/1900 Mhz while here in the US we operate at 850/1800/1900. My phone for example (Sony Ericsson T616) has the UK counter-part (the T610) which has the band difference. If someone with a T616 were to go to the UK then it would attempt connection at GSM 850 and fail, resorting to the other frequencies (1800 and 1900) only when it finds a network that uses the other frequencies will it work. A person from the UK with the T610 would experience the same here in the states: phone fails to locate on 900Mhz, attempts on the other two. Which GSM Band is used by providers is left up to them. AT&T Wireless for example, only uses GSM850. Meaning that at 1800 or 1900 there is no connectivity from AT&T Wireless, and if only AT&T Wireless exists in that area, then there is no connectivity at all. What's more not all GSM handsets are "Tri-band" some are actually "Dual-band" or "Single-band" (Sony Ericsson T226 for example is only dual band, GSM850 and 1900).

      So you've got fundamental differences in the networks (GSM Bands) no enforcement for providers to operate on all available bands, and non-standard handsets that don't even "get" all of the bands, makes for some very, very confusing travel. Not to mention that after all of this, you get connectivity abroad, you'll be paying out the nose in roaming charges.

    31. Re:Innovation? by xsupergr0verx · · Score: 1, Funny

      Quit being a fancypants and use your finger!

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    32. Re:Innovation? by tarunthegreat2 · · Score: 1

      (yawn). You must be new here....
      In Soviet Russia, the Mobile rings YOU!...oh never mind.
      I'm just wondering how long it would take somebody to "wave" 'All of your base station are belong to us' on their new 'nifty' mobile...It would be a great way to increase your chances of carpal tunnel for sure...

    33. Re:Innovation? by Feztaa · · Score: 1

      we are going to get people gesticulating madly,

      You keep your dirty gesticles to yourself!

    34. Re:Innovation? by Mr+Europe · · Score: 1

      It is an innovation, but definately not made by Nokia. One example we all know is a messaging clock in thinkgeek
      http://www.thinkgeek.com/cubegoodies/li ghts/59ac/z oom/

    35. Re:Innovation? by eyeye · · Score: 1

      I think its kind of cool to add a new form of communication to mobile phones, but what next? Smoke signals?

      The other thing about this phone is that as a new model if you are waving in the air you might as well set the message to "Mug me".

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    36. Re:Innovation? by Lord_Dweomer · · Score: 1
      Perhaps if someone can post a link to that video of the 7 series bimmer driving around with lights blinking and hood and trunk popping open and windows going while the user figits with the iDrive you'll be convinced at how ridiculously complex it is.

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    37. Re:Innovation? by wfberg · · Score: 1

      The sad thing is, I have considered the Symbian models. I absolutely loved my second-hand Psion 5 organizer/PDA (until it stopped working), it had the most wonderful UI, a vibrant community of programmers, a lot of things going for it.

      Then, things got stagnant. Until Nokia and Ericsson picked it up. The Nokia models I've seen so far are pretty much Nokia-quality; i.e. fall apart in about a year, and both the Nokia and the SonyEricsson models are sooo slow..

      There also seems to be less developer interest in hacking these things, partly because the Dark Side OS on the MDA(2) is basically PocketPC 2003, which is (perhaps regrettably) widely used on other PDAs.

      Nevertheless, you're quite right, I'll take a second look at them. But I'm leaning towards the MDA2. (Besides, T-mobile is discounting them quite a bit at the moment, at least here in .nl)

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    38. Re:Innovation? by daveashcroft · · Score: 1, Funny

      you sound like my girlfriend.

    39. Re:Innovation? by pond0123 · · Score: 2, Interesting
      Actually, things like this are done in some devices. However, if the device is capable of downloading entire new firmware images, having the whole of the firmware copied into a ROM-like region would be silly. What some people do is include a small recovery ROM, which has a subset of functions that enable the device to retrieve a last-known-good Flash image from some predefined location.

      This isn't done in many mass market devices because the cost of extra Flash or a mask ROM is relatively large compared to other components. Larger companies are often ecstatic if they find they can shave off 1 cent from the Balance Of Materials because they're anticipating unit sales in 6 or 7 figure quantities. That 1 cent multiplies up into large chunks of cash. Adding extra ROM or Flash chips, with costs in the dollar range, is not acceptable. Factor in the development and testing cost for the exta software and things get even worse. So, however technically sound the idea might be, an economic argument often wins out.

      A final consideration is that device copying is rife, particularly in the far East; some companies go to extraordinary measures to try to protect their software and hardware designs from being cloned. The more devices or device partitions you have, the more points of attack you potentially present for someone intending to break into the physical hardware and the software of the unit.

    40. Re:Innovation? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Funny

      No, it, for some strange reason, says
      "Oh No, Not Again"

    41. Re:Innovation? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wave the phone in the air?
      Sounds like we are returning to our roots of waving a stick, etc. in the air to show our displeasure at our enemies.

    42. Re:Innovation? by asterix_2k1 · · Score: 1
      Same mad gesturing happens in stock exchanges....surprisingly it works...although in case of Tokyo Stock Exchange it is pure silent gesticulation and in the case of Bombay stock exchange, it is accompanied by decibels of noise and an almost-stampede like situation.

      Sig! We dont need no damn sig !

    43. Re:Innovation? by glesga_kiss · · Score: 2, Interesting
      I too am disappointed that more companies don't make devices that let you configure things yourself. I too wish I could tweak menus and defaults. To me personally, it doesn't matter if it's open source or not...

      Ironically, the Microsoft Smartphone platform is very configuable. The menu system is identical to Win32 systems, i.e. folders and shortcut. It's definately a hackers phone, not for the faint-hearted.

      Plus it can be legitimately application-unlocked unlike many DRM capable phones and the SDK is free (as in beer).

      But all this could be solved by simply having a "reset button". Put a copy of the firmware in ROM... as soon as the button is pressed it reverts to that.

      Covered in the "hidden" service menu on these phones. It automatically restores any parts of the registry or file system that become corrupt, so I've never seen it fail on me because of my screwing around.

      Look at how popular ringers and backgrounds have become.

      Another great feature here is ringtones are wav files (I just make my own in CoolEdit) and backgrounds are jpgs. The user-front end is completely skinable.

      My favourite toy on it right now is Mapopolis, a vector based mapping app with GPS capabilities. I haven't gotten lost in ages...

      But it's M$, so I'm probably wasting my time here...

    44. Re:Innovation? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dude, what age do you live in?
      Seriously, are people still running around screaming and waving in stock exchanges?
      I thought that was only in the movies...

      We don't have that in Sweden anyway.

    45. Re:Innovation? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      The user is suggesting putting data into ROM that is already otherwise on the phone in a flashable format. You're not giving people something extra -- you're giving them the ability to reflash the phone back to factory defaults.

      Incidentally, you can erase the previous owner of a phone fairly easily anyway.

    46. Re:Innovation? by phorm · · Score: 1

      Except that, historically, look and feel have been unpatentable. Well, actually almost anything seems to be patentable due to grand idiocy at the USPTO, but the patents would be invalid.

    47. Re:Innovation? by scrytch · · Score: 1

      > For example, take my Nokia phone. Please. The hardware is OK, but the UI is horrible.

      Odd. Most people I talk to seem to like Nokia's interface. What specifically was bad about it, and what was good about the Japanese and Samsung phones?

      I personally have my nokia for the hardware tho. Nice button feel (assuming you get a model with a sanely designed keypad), no antenna to snag, and damn near indestructible. Only interface feature I routinely use is the one-button speed dial, and I don't even have that filled up (I have to get me a life). Only feature I miss is voice activated dialing (yah the phone's old) ... sometimes the best interface is none at all :)

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    48. Re:Innovation? by lazybeam · · Score: 1

      Heh I've got a circuit that does this - featured in the May 1997 issue of Silicon Chip (which is now Australia's only electronics magazine). :)

      (No real references online anymore, except a highlight of articles and the software to program it available at that site)

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    49. Re:Innovation? by Moofie · · Score: 1

      So why does every review and road test of iDrive equipped cars say something like "This car is great, except for the iDrive user interface, which is ABSOLUTELY MADDENING."

      Who was the moron who decided to go to Microsoft for the UI design? That, I'd really like to know.

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    50. Re:Innovation? by Siniset · · Score: 1

      I guess I was thinking also about interaction as well as just look and feel. Kind of like Apples Ipod Patent.

    51. Re:Innovation? by Fred_A · · Score: 1

      I know what you mean about the Psion machines, I really wish my Revo+ didn't suffer from the infamous battery problem which makes it unuseable... :(

      I haven't looked so far at the Nokia symbian models, I just saw the 7700 when following the link for the article and since I was considering upgrading my aging Palm IIIx, it struck me as being a possible solution. Even more so since it runs Symbian which is supposed to be more or less what the Psion machines used to run. I'm a bit scared of the pricing though. Not to mention that for a Q2 2004 release, they're running late already.

      Now of course if the machines are shabby, I'm not sure it's worth it. I tend to get some fairly high end machines but on the other and I often expect them to last for a while, if that thing doesn't last at least through 4 years of daily use, it definitely won't do...

      Ah well... I'll check it out whenever it comes out.

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    52. Re:Innovation? by dynamo · · Score: 1

      uh, you do know that this LED waving phone has a camera, don't you?

    53. Re:Innovation? by fiannaFailMan · · Score: 1

      Believe it or not it still goes on. Ever seen the NYSE? London Futures Exchange?

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    54. Re:Innovation? by IncohereD · · Score: 1

      You forgot the most important -- storing two copies of firmware means either a) more money spent on flash that is used so very infrequently or b) less memory for cutesy ringtones or another lame-ass game.

      I think you missed the point of storing it in ROM. i.e. READ ONLY memory. Cheap, and useless for anything other than reading its stored image. This is a fairly common feature in routers, motherboards, and many other flashable devices.

    55. Re:Innovation? by IncohereD · · Score: 1

      Except that, historically, look and feel have been unpatentable.

      Didn't Macromedia finally lose to Adobe for ripping off their entire interface? In that case, they really should have. It was blatant.

    56. Re:Innovation? by tzanger · · Score: 1

      Routers and motherboards with a secondary BIOS or firmware are all stored in Flash, my friend... ROM is far too expensive to make -- it's cheap in terms of materials but expensive since you have to mass-produce them to get any kind of value. The more common thing to do is have sectored flash, in which you can lock sectors (usually either the topmost or bottommost sector) and prevent a reflash from screwing it.

      How do you upgrade the locked sector? Typically you don't. You make it small and low-level enough that all it does is loop in an "accept a flash record" routine if it doesn't like the checksum of the main flash body.

      Why yes, I do embedded systems design for a living, how could you tell?

    57. Re:Innovation? by pilgrim23 · · Score: 1

      Remember: Swish and Flick! Swish and Flick!

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    58. Re:Innovation? by wfberg · · Score: 1

      When you check it out, don't rely on the sales pitch, tech specs or your first impression; ask a friend.

      The nokia smartphones they've been making so far aren't too hot. They suffer from quite a lot of glitches in the software (typical nokia operating procedure; rush the hardware out before the firmware is ready, then have people update it -- at service centers, no downloads!).

      The OS isn't straight symbian either - they use an UI called series 60, which is being expanded all the time. Regretably, Nokia is a lot less forthcoming with APIs etc than Psion was.

      The hardware of nokia smartphones is a lot better than the hardware on their normal phones which typically fall apart after a year, or two at the most in my experience. Even their business phone range, the 6110/6210/6310 range had a *known* problem with the battery getting loose (requiring a slip of paper to be put underneath to keep things tight) for years and years. Not good QA.

      I had great hopes for the SonyEricsson P800/900, but they're dog slow :-(

      I've now bought the Qtek 2020, and in less than a day, I've got myself IRC, PocketPutty (ssh, so I can pretend it's linux - works really well!), VNC, a cool homemade theme, and I haven't even begun downloading games.. It's as good as psion was when it comes to third party (free!) software.

      Too bad the underlying OS is so closed (but then, so is Symbian). And "activesync" will only sync to outlook, but I wasn't using any calendering/contacts software yet, I'm sure there's a replacement so you can use something else.

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  2. I had that toy... by soren42 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I used to have toy from Mattel back around 1983 or so that worked on this same concept - it was called a LightStick or some such. It was a long black paddle with a row of leds on the front, and a keyboard on the back. You just typed in a message, and wave the stick wildly back and forth in the air.

    As I recall the problem was, waving this thing around wildly was very taxing on the arms, and the message was sometimes unclear and difficult to read - especially after fatigue set it.

    Hopefully Nokia thought about this, and has made it a little less straining to use.

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    1. Re:I had that toy... by arudloff · · Score: 5, Funny

      They still sell something extremely similar at Disney World. Incrediably cool at first, for about 3 minutes, then you realize how retarded you look waving a plastic stick with mouse ears on. :(

    2. Re:I had that toy... by Guernica+Bill · · Score: 1

      I remember being REALLY disappointed when I got that stupid thing for Christmas. "Innovation" indeed. This is the stupidest cel phone add-on yet. I hated the thing when I was 11, so I really can't see who would want this on their phone. Now, if it had a smoke-signal device, THAT would be innovation.

    3. Re:I had that toy... by YOU+LIKEWISE+FAIL+IT · · Score: 1

      I have a device like this, except mine spins the LED bank in a circle, using a mechanism very similar to a football rattle. The only problem is, because the angle you can sweep through is quite limited ( even less so when you've got to wave your frickin' arm around instead of just spinning it on an axel ), so is the length of the message you can display.

      And thank god for that. The method for programming messages into mine involved entering letters using something like binary representation, and it was a total pain in the arse. I think I programmed it to say "COCKS" at the last party I took it to, but five minutes after someone else started playing with it, it would only say "4J.XWR:"

      Anyway, it's a cute idea, but I certainly wouldn't shell out big money for it on a phone when they can be had for A$20 or so from rave/party supply shops.

      YLFI
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    4. Re:I had that toy... by RTPMatt · · Score: 1

      there was a recent issue of nuts and volts that had one of these as a project, though putting it in a phone is a cool idea. Would be good to have when your stranded, im sure it would be nice to have a small "Got JmprCabls?" sign when needed

    5. Re:I had that toy... by ad0gg · · Score: 1
      As I recall the problem was, waving this thing around wildly was very taxing on the arms, and the message was sometimes unclear and difficult to read - especially after fatigue set it.

      Maybe today's youth will actually loose weight if forced to something that requires little bit of excerise.

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    6. Re:I had that toy... by daeley · · Score: 1

      Incrediably cool at first, for about 3 minutes, then you realize how retarded you look waving a plastic stick with mouse ears on. :(

      You know, in another context, this would be even more disturbing than it already is. ;)

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    7. Re:I had that toy... by nsuccorso · · Score: 0

      Maybe today's youth will actually loose weight if forced to something that requires little bit of excerise.

      Yes, and hopefully they'll loose it in your direction.

    8. Re:I had that toy... by mikael · · Score: 2, Informative

      Maybe your looking for the Skyliner Virtual Message Writer.

      There used to be a road safety wand version, which allowed you to enter a preprogrammed message which would appear when the wand was waved from side to side in the air. However, I could ever figure how anyone would have the time or skill to fiddle around with the programming buttons in order to create a coherent message after an accident.

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    9. Re:I had that toy... by DeXtroMe · · Score: 1

      Actually lately I've seen a toy very similar, but with a cool fix to the whole 'ow my arms hurt from waving this damn stick' problem. I forget where I saw them, Spencer's I believe, but instead ov waving a stick the device spins around on a stick, so you just rotate the stick slowly and you can have the LEDs spin around quite fast. Ummm... ok so my explanation sucks but I'm sure some of you geeks know what I'm trying to see... arg... slashdot+beer=dammit

    10. Re:I had that toy... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Build or buy.

    11. Re:I had that toy... by FiloEleven · · Score: 1

      Seriously. Lord knows we're screwed on spelling.

    12. Re:I had that toy... by CmdrTHAC0 · · Score: 1

      I've seen a toy like it as well; one row of LEDs, limited to 8 letters, with a 2-letter code for each letter. The column of LEDs would display letters-remaining and code-remaining status, but being on the opposite side of the wand from the keypad, it wasn't all that useful.

      At any rate, it took a lot of practice in front of a mirror (make sure it's showing up backwards) to get the rhythm right. Only the guy who owned it could use it with any sort of proficiency.

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    13. Re:I had that toy... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You mean this stupid thing?

    14. Re:I had that toy... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Perhaps you mean the "sky writer". I got one of those as a prize for selling candy bars in 1984. When I selected it, I had grand visions of projecting words into the air. However, all I got was a few crummy led's and a miniature keypad mounted on a stick. *sigh*

    15. Re:I had that toy... by Lord_Dweomer · · Score: 2, Funny
      I've already seen something similar to this used in a club. Some retard was waving one of these LED toys around in the middle of the dance floor that read...I shit you not....

      "Acid??? Rolls???"

      It took less than 10 seconds of this before two large men dressed in nice black suits escorted him off the dance floor and into a back room.

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    16. Re:I had that toy... by s-meister · · Score: 1
      There is a similar gizmo called Hokey Spokes that allows a cyclist to display messages as they ride.

      "Hello ! Yeah, I'm on the bike!"

    17. Re:I had that toy... by Jubilex · · Score: 1

      It was called a "Skywriter". I had one, too. Ah, the cool toys of the 80's...

    18. Re:I had that toy... by rsmeds · · Score: 1

      A friend of mine had one of those back in the day. One of the stranger things about it was that it had a bunch of preset messages, one of which said "HELLO SEXY UFO!"

      I guess it was intended to be used as a UFO-hitchhiking beacon, a la the Electronic Thumb in HGTTG.

    19. Re:I had that toy... by Moofie · · Score: 1

      yeah, because buying a machine that can make a sign that says "Got JmprCabls" makes a lot more sense than buying some jumper cables.

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  3. Prepare for some UGLY ascii art by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Just look at all the ugly ascii art we see from the ./ trolls.

    Now imagine some retarded 15 year old high school loser waving an animated picture in the air in front of you.

    1. Re:Prepare for some UGLY ascii art by somethinghollow · · Score: 5, Funny

      I deleted ./trolls right after I installed Red Hat on my PC. It's really a useless directory that clutters up the file system. It's always spamming dumb things like "first post" to my terminal. It's quite annoying. It kept coming back, so I got a Mac instead.

    2. Re:Prepare for some UGLY ascii art by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Or how about the return of goatse, ASCII-style? If you were brave enough to go past the front page, they had an entire section of IRC chat logs ("just go to goatse.cx to find the info about gcc"), flames, congrats, and an ASCII-art rendering of the famour pic. I can hardly wait for the first time this one shows up in glowing red LED's.

      -paul

    3. Re:Prepare for some UGLY ascii art by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      look on the bright side. if his arms are up in the air, they aren't blocking the punch that's coming towards his nose..

    4. Re:Prepare for some UGLY ascii art by ErichTheWebGuy · · Score: 1

      Now imagine some retarded 15 year old high school loser waving an animated picture in the air in front of you.

      Such a person would be a great candadite for a swift punch in the mouth, or maybe my knife being thrown into his chest, depending upon his distance from me....

      Now that I think about it, roll out these phones en masse! I think this could be fun, if a bit bloody

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    5. Re:Prepare for some UGLY ascii art by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You should have just chmodded ./trolls -111, it automatically renames it to ~/.trolls, and pipes it to /dev/null with nary the ill-effect!

    6. Re:Prepare for some UGLY ascii art by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      it was like bleep bleep bleep...

      it was a good paper. :(

  4. You know what comes next. by sulli · · Score: 5, Funny
    Airborne ascii art.

    Be afraid. Be very afraid.

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    1. Re:You know what comes next. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      8======> O?

      Lameness filter encountered. Post aborted!
      Reason: Your comment looks too much like ascii art.

    2. Re:You know what comes next. by Richard_L_James · · Score: 2, Funny

      /. :-)

    3. Re:You know what comes next. by hendridm · · Score: 1

      That brings to mind an even scarier thought, having seen those ASCII renditions of Goatse while browsing at -1.

    4. Re:You know what comes next. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      =}0{=

    5. Re:You know what comes next. by peterprior · · Score: 1

      I wonder if you can wave "Low Battery" to all of your friends :)

    6. Re:You know what comes next. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wuhuu, airborne Nethack!

    7. Re:You know what comes next. by DickBreath · · Score: 1

      What comes next...

      A miniature laser light show in the phone.

      Laser diode. Couple of voice coil mirrors. Okay, not practical for handheld device.

      Laser diode. A single spinning mirror hologram that has been designed to reflect the light in a raster pattern as it spins. Software merely turns on the laser at the right points. Very much like how the elctron gun in a CRT works. Only one small rotating moving part. Got to be easier to do than the "vibrator" in phones which are an off balance weight that spins.

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  5. Pretty useful by Olaserov · · Score: 5, Funny

    I wonder if it has any pre-programmed messages already? A particularly useful one might be "HELP: HAVING A SIEZURE!"

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    1. Re:Pretty useful by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Except the maximum message length is 15 characters.

    2. Re:Pretty useful by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      nothin2seemovon

    3. Re:Pretty useful by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Or how about OBEY?

  6. reverse mode by eegad · · Score: 5, Funny

    I hope it comes with reverse mode so I can wave messages to the car in front of me. think: "Green is for go"

    1. Re:reverse mode by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I hope it comes with reverse mode so I can wave messages to the car in front of me. think: "Green is for go"

      You seriously believe the drivers you have in mind actually ever look in their mirrors?

    2. Re:reverse mode by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      wow, your drivers are advanced!

      here, we'd need a "right pedal = faster, left pedal = slower, god help you if you have a third pedal."

    3. Re:reverse mode by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And someone can flash at you "Slow Down"

    4. Re:reverse mode by Dav3K · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I was thinking of using it to tell the car beside me that their 'gas cap is open', or to 'check trailer' when the load becomes untied, etc. I can see this as a real hit for the public transport crowd, especially on trains or subway systems.

    5. Re:reverse mode by beatleadam · · Score: 1

      Don't forget "Calling police" or "buckle up your safety belt"

      You have to wonder who is going to pay attention to all of this...Let alone Read it.

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    6. Re:reverse mode by LaForce · · Score: 3, Interesting

      I can't remember what the name of the movie was, but I was watching a spy movie where they had one of these equipped in a car as one of his gadgets. I remember being impressed by how feasable and useful it looked.
      The taillights were LED based, with one of those bars across the entire back of the car for third brake light. It turned into a voice activated scrolling marquee when he spoke into a cb radio style microphone. This was used twice in the movie, once to communicate with the police behind him, and the other to make sarcastic remarks to the bad guys who were chasing him.
      If you were to actually implement this, it would be pretty easy; the trickiest part would be the voice activation. Personally I'd like to be able to send a message to the guy behind me who's trying to push me to go faster, when I'm already 5mph over.

    7. Re:reverse mode by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, because on the highway, on a sunny day, everyone should be doing 45 in the left lane.

      Get your head out of your ass then move over to the right - and stop being a dumbass.

    8. Re:reverse mode by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      And who the hell made you traffic cop?

      Maybe instead of ignoring the guy behind you, you should move over and let the guy behind you do whatever the hell he wants to do.

      Let's think about this. If they're drunk, insane, or just a plain old poor driver, it's better to have them in front of you, where you can easily keep an eye on them and take steps to avoid whatever they're going to do, instead of behind you where they could end up rear-ending you if you have to take any sudden action.

      Because of people like you, Illinois passed a law which made it illegal to be in the left lane unless you're physically passing cars on the right. And boy, it's made such a difference thanks to sanctimonious pricks like yourself, who've taken it upon themselves to slow the entire world down to whatever pace they want to set, whether it's 15mph under or 5mph over.

      You're not a cop, you're not in control, get over yourself, and move over.

    9. Re:reverse mode by Jah-Wren+Ryel · · Score: 1

      Absofuckinglutely. And if it is only a two-lane road, count the cars behind you, some states have laws that say if you are impeding N vehicles, generally in the 4-6 range, you are required to pull over and let them pass.

      And while I am venting, don't fucking turn out into a two lane road if there is approaching traffic moving at or greater than the speed limit if you aren't able to accelerate fast enough to avoid impeding their progress. Holy fucknuts! The number of people who pull out in front of me and then proceed to drive 30- in a 40mph zone is ridiculous. Probably happens at least 50% of the time on my daily commute.

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    10. Re:reverse mode by paiute · · Score: 1

      That was Dean Martin in one of the Matt Helm movies.
      He also had a gun that fired ten seconds or so after the trigger was pulled.

      He used to go to James Bond's yard sales.

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  7. innovation?? i think not by fodi · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ahhh... this is what happens when your R&D dept. can't keep up with the marketing dept...

    gimmiks for the kiddies...

    1. Re:innovation?? i think not by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "What's Your #?" To the hottie in the car on the motorway.

    2. Re:innovation?? i think not by DeXtroMe · · Score: 1

      I would actually think it would be the opposite, considering that some R&D dept. came out with these quite a while ago (they've been around in stores since the 80's), and its the Nokia marketing dept. that had just come up with the idea that these would be a big seller in cell phones...

    3. Re:innovation?? i think not by Fizzl · · Score: 1

      Umm, no.
      This is the unfortunate effect of R&D responsing to marketting without doubts.

    4. Re:innovation?? i think not by scottv67 · · Score: 1

      >"What's Your #?" To the hottie in the car on the motorway."

      And her reply to you...

      PHA Q!

      -scott

    5. Re:innovation?? i think not by Kiryat+Malachi · · Score: 1

      This is what happens when your R&D department is *run* by your marketing department.

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  8. This would be great for... by BodyCount07 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    writing messages to a DJ in a noisy club. I currently request songs by holding up my phone as close as possible, but that isn't always readable.

    1. Re:This would be great for... by Johnathon_Dough · · Score: 4, Insightful
      As a part time DJ, I can say with some authority, that this is a good way to get your phone thrown across the room.

      It's bad enough being surrounded by bouncing people and seizure inducing light shows with out some jackass waving their blinking cell phone at me to play some song I have no intention of playing anyway.

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    2. Re:This would be great for... by gregmac · · Score: 1

      writing messages to a DJ in a noisy club. I currently request songs by holding up my phone as close as possible, but that isn't always readable.

      A lot of times, if you can't talk to the DJ, it's because they don't give a shit about what songs you want to hear ;)

      Granted, some clubs are setup in ways where you can't get near them, but there are also a lot of DJs that just don't take requests (I'm not quite sure why).

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    3. Re:This would be great for... by Rebar · · Score: 3, Insightful

      So far, this is the best use anyone has proposed for this feature, and it is better accomplished with a 50-cent pen and a bar-napkin.

    4. Re:This would be great for... by Monkeyman334 · · Score: 2, Informative

      I've seen these things at raves (here's a pic from a rave site). A lot of times they just put up the name of the dj or something. It wasn't any more obnoxious than the 40 necklaces and bracelets and huge stuffed spongebob pacifier that the candy ravers wear.

    5. Re:This would be great for... by nsuccorso · · Score: 1, Funny

      That's because they're "artists". Next time, remember to throw pennies at them.

    6. Re:This would be great for... by ajayvb · · Score: 1

      how about... using these instead of lighters at rock concerts? I can see 80,000 people doing this at a Metallica concert. Would make one hell of a sight.

    7. Re:This would be great for... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You must have psychic bouncers, because I can't think of a club in DC where you wouldn't be beat senseless before security helped you.

    8. Re:This would be great for... by mr.+methane · · Score: 1

      "Your car is being towed..."

    9. Re:This would be great for... by patniemeyer · · Score: 4, Interesting

      So, I thought that was the rationale for why a D.J. is more than just some poser replacing a CD player... that they somehow responded to the crowd.

      If you don't want input from the jackasses in the crowd then what are you doing up there? Wouldn't you do a better job mixing up your stuff if you did it in a sound room and recorded it?

      Pat

    10. Re:This would be great for... by Lord_Dweomer · · Score: 1
      Whoops, I posted my response to this under the wrong thread. Here is a repost:

      I've already seen something similar to this used in a club. Some retard was waving one of these LED toys around in the middle of the dance floor that read...I shit you not....

      "Acid??? Rolls???"

      It took less than 10 seconds of this before two large men dressed in nice black suits escorted him off the dance floor and into a back room.

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    11. Re:This would be great for... by Lord_Dweomer · · Score: 3, Informative
      You obviously have never been to a real club then.

      REAL club DJs are very busy making cool creative mixes. They have their sets planned out already. And they DO respond to the crowd, however they don't do it through direct input like waving this kind of crap in their faces. They read peoples reactions to what they are playing and decide what to spin next and how to mix it.

      Any pro DJ in a club would be super pissed at you for waving this shit in their face.

      Maybe you should go to an actual club and figure out what club DJs actually do before you post ignorant comments like that.

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    12. Re:This would be great for... by TheMabster · · Score: 1

      I'm glad I go to a club where the DJs aren't super-busy as you suggested above.

      A friend and I are usually out on the floor the longest and quite happy to stop and angrily stare at the DJs when they are doing bad or grin and go crazy when they're doing awesome.

      At my favourite club this has caused quite an energy exchange. The DJs know us there, and they try psyche us up if we're drooping down, or try for harder music, etc. We're like consistent test-subjects they can use to determine how the crowd is going to behave (we do reflect the crowd). They even ask us how their set was afterwards, etc. And it's this reason alone that I still go to the club to this day -- the duality between the DJs and dancers.

      Now I wouldn't go so far as asking for a particular track on one of those LED phones, but I'd certainly like to be able to write a 'THANK YOU!' / 'HARDER :) !' across the air!

    13. Re:This would be great for... by Lord_Dweomer · · Score: 1
      Unless you make up a large number of people there, you do NOT reflect the crowd. That's great that you are regulars and the resident DJs know you, but realize that most DJ's don't have the luxury of not being super-busy.

      I do agree though that these are a good way of SUPPORTING the DJ and not telling them what to do (ie. requesting songs).

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    14. Re:This would be great for... by cluke · · Score: 2, Funny

      how about... using these instead of lighters at rock concerts? I can see 80,000 people doing this at a Metallica concert. Would make one hell of a sight.

      Yeah, as long as they didn't use it to spell out any of their copyrighted lyrics, or Metallica would have them taken to court.

    15. Re:This would be great for... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      that is why many "D.J.'s" are being replaced with a automated system.

      it's cheaper and has a lower "asshole" component.

      if the DJ is not taking input and paying attention to the dance floor.... then he is easily replaced with a fricking pc with winamp set on random.

    16. Re:This would be great for... by vgaphil · · Score: 1

      giving me a seizure.....

      Why does everything have to involve flashing lights?

      I was at Universal Studios last weekend and I couldn't ride any of the rides because they all had a warning about "Side effects may induce seizures for certain people".

      I am supposed to walk around with my eyes closed now so I don't look at one of these stupid phones?

      What a stupid idea.

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    17. Re:This would be great for... by marcelk · · Score: 1

      I currently request songs by holding up my phone as close as possible, but that isn't always readable.

      I just give them my ipod ready to plug in.

    18. Re:This would be great for... by Moofie · · Score: 1

      There are still 80,000 people who like Metallica? Wow. Who knew?

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  9. Freebird by The_Rippa · · Score: 5, Funny

    Nokia said the 3220's air messaging system could be used by friends to talk to each other across crowded rooms or open-air concerts.

    Great, all the artists need are 10,000 people waving "Freebird" in the air

    1. Re:Freebird by artemis67 · · Score: 1

      Great, all the artists need are 10,000 people waving "Freebird" in the air

      Yeah, but it sure beats having some drunken, stoned asshole waving an open flame behind your head...

    2. Re:Freebird by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, being batter by some twats phone, or watching some twat burn after you^Hhe poured Vodka all over himself, and you^Hhe dropped his lighter?

  10. Holey Spokes by stoolpigeon · · Score: 4, Informative

    Kind of like Hokey Spokes but not as big or cool really. But it will sell with the junior high crowd I predict.

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    1. Re:Holey Spokes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Man, talk about garish. Look at the rainbow one...

      Different spokes for different folks, I guess.

    2. Re:Holey Spokes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I doubt even they are that shallow, stupid and gullible. Hopefully it doesn't sell, because if you can't sell something shiney to a junior high kid, you know it's a bad product.

  11. FU by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    cool a better way to flip people off when they cut you off... "FU" should become very popular

  12. Great for in the movies... by ebsf1 · · Score: 2, Insightful

    It's annoying enough having people using cell phones for normal sms messages in movie theatres...imagine the waving of phones in movie theatres that will happen now...of course if the message happened to be a target...

  13. Please mod up... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Please mod up the first person to spell out "Fuck off and die!" with their wavey phone thingy and post a picture.

    1. Re:Please mod up... by BTWR · · Score: 0, Offtopic

      sorry, that's 17 characters... it can only display 15...

    2. Re:Please mod up... by scottv67 · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      >sorry, that's 17 characters... it can only display 15...

      Ok, how about:

      FuckOffnDie

      or

      FOAD

      Personally, I would lean toward the less hostile messages like:

      ShowYerTits!

      -scott

  14. What need does this serve? by ethanrider · · Score: 4, Funny

    When someone developed the flamethrower it was because of the idea "You know, I'd really like to set that person over there on fire"

    I wonder what the analogous thought process was for this product if there was one...

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  15. Short Text Message by ackthpt · · Score: 5, Funny
    "Can't Afford Monthly Payments on Cell Phone - Please Help"

    You notice a cup with a few coins in it at their feet.

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    1. Re:Short Text Message by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Except the maximum message length is only 15 characters.

    2. Re:Short Text Message by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Haha... this discussion has spawned several of these guys that think they're smart by saying "Um, actually, you moron, the character limit is 15"

    3. Re:Short Text Message by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Um, actually, you moron, the character limit is 15

  16. more on that from The Reg by jdesbonnet · · Score: 3, Informative


    http://www.theregister.com/2004/06/02/nokia_shel ls _waving/

    1. Re:more on that from The Reg by BarryNorton · · Score: 1

      Yeah, as I wrote to the (skeptical) guy when he put it up, he's perhaps never been in a nightclub...

      (What? People want to communicate where it's noisy and dark? These kids...)

  17. JUST TALK TO ONE ANOTHER!!!!! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Insightful

    How stupid is this. Just open your mouth and talk the the person you can fricken see. Rediculous. I am sure there will be a plethora of posts about how someway this could be integrated with Linux or a beowulf cluster by a loser sitting at home living with his parents, compiling the latest kernel.

  18. Wait for it... by mbokhari · · Score: 0


    [Insert name of enemy] has a small duck.
    [...] stinks
    and so forth :)

    --
    -=- celibate by popular demand
    1. Re:Wait for it... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, we all know how the farmers with small ducks get ignored by those with big ducks; I can imagine these phones being used by farmers across open farmland to riddicule their neighbors.

    2. Re:Wait for it... by NoData · · Score: 0, Troll

      Everyone knows it's not the size of the duck, it's how much smack in the quack. Er..or the freak in the beak?

  19. WTF! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    WTF! WTF! WTF! (LOL!) Stay away from this guy, he'll be waving his phone in your face ... !!

  20. Finally! by Piranhaa · · Score: 2, Informative

    I've always wondered how long it would take for these things to become available to the average consumer. What I really think should start getting popular are keyboards that shine on the desk, allowing you to type without the need for moving keys. This is a big step into mobile technology, and it can only grow bigger, and better!

    1. Re:Finally! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Not a comment on the type of keyboards you suggested exactly, but have you ever tried to type on something other than a keyboard? Go ahead and type on your desk, it doesn't exactly feel right, does it? A big part of typing is the feel of the keyboard, the springy feedback that you get when you use it. Otherwise, it would be like typing on a block of wood without the little quirks and feel that each button on your keyboard has.

    2. Re:Finally! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

      That's the stupidest idea I've ever heard. And I'm a television producer.

  21. Imagine by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0, Funny

    A beowulf cluster of these!
    Can it show goatse.cx?
    In Soviet Russia the phone lights you up.
    Does it run Linux?

    Oh, and:
    1. Type
    2. Shake
    3. ????
    4. Profit

  22. How about a motion-device that will enter text? by thbarnes · · Score: 2, Interesting

    How about a motion-sensor device that will enter text on your phone (i.e. into a SMS message) as you move the phone. Say making a "J" motion will enter in a J. Kinda like Palm's graffiti just using your hands.

    1. Re:How about a motion-device that will enter text? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I bet you want to be able to spell out YMCA !

    2. Re:How about a motion-device that will enter text? by gclef · · Score: 1

      And if you start "vogue"-ing, you get...what? poetry? (or is that...ahem...Vogue-on poetry?)

      Aaron

    3. Re:How about a motion-device that will enter text? by mlk · · Score: 0, Troll

      Brits (as with the rest of the west) are to fucking fat, anything to make people excerse is a Good Thing (tm).

      --
      Wow, I should not post when knackered.
  23. Reminds me of... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Reminds me of Bob Blick's propellor clock. Except it spins constantly.
    links

  24. What a gimmick by AlphaPB · · Score: 5, Funny
    From the article:

    Nokia said the 3220's air messaging system could be used by friends to talk to each other across crowded rooms or open-air concerts.

    So instead of picking up the phone and calling the other person, you're supposed to type in a 15-letter text message and wave your phone around in the air?! I can see how this can be fun... for 5 minutes.

    1. Re:What a gimmick by Johnathon_Dough · · Score: 4, Funny
      Yes, according to nokia at least

      My friends and I though, have this other method we have been using, I am actually thinking of patenting it:
      We walk across the room and (this is the neat part) hold a conversation using (get this...) only our voices.

      Revolutionary for the times I admit, but just watch, give it a few years, everyone will be doing it, if only so as to not have to try and pick the message directed to them from the sea of waving arms and blinking lights at the concert.

      --
      If you are one in a million, then there are six thousand people who are just like you.
    2. Re:What a gimmick by prockcore · · Score: 1

      My friends and I though, have this other method we have been using, I am actually thinking of patenting it:
      We walk across the room and (this is the neat part) hold a conversation using (get this...) only our voices.


      Your method has a fatal flaw, it doesn't work in clubs or concerts.

      Not that this thing is any better.

    3. Re:What a gimmick by danharan · · Score: 1

      BoingBoing noted that an obvious use for this would be heckling. Probably not something the marketing types thought of... :)

      --
      Information: "I want to be anthropomorphized"
    4. Re:What a gimmick by Johnathon_Dough · · Score: 1
      Actually, I will be including in the instruction video a how to on conversing in loud areas, a free teaser:

      You place your speaking apparatus (mouth) aprox 1-2 inches from the intended recepient's listening apparatus (ear). Increase the volume of your speaking level until the recepient stops saying "WHAT?"

      --
      If you are one in a million, then there are six thousand people who are just like you.
    5. Re:What a gimmick by mlk · · Score: 1

      This is why I went to sign language classes at Uni.

      --
      Wow, I should not post when knackered.
    6. Re:What a gimmick by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      yeah I was at a really loud concert and tried this method and now I have a ringing in my ears that will not go away. Funny that the loud music didn't affect my hearing but people screaming in my ears did. If you let someone yell in your ear make sure you are wearing ear plugs, or put your finger in your ear. You can still hear the person, as their voice travels through your finger.

  25. Short range communication = shouting? by Engineer+Andy · · Score: 2, Interesting

    If you wanted to communicate to someone in a discrete manner you would sms them or phone them. If you wanted to make an indiscrete communication that would get their attention you could shout to them (they are still within vision range and i doubt that you can read the little LED's at 100 metres), so what void does this feature fill?

    I may not be the target market for this, so it could just be my not seeing how these things tend to take on a life of their own beyond the original use.

    --
    "And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the Son to be the Savior of the World" 1 John 4:14
    1. Re:Short range communication = shouting? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      so what void does this feature fill?

      As you say, it's a information broadcast. Kind of like shouting. It does have advantages over shouting. The range is better, especially in noisy places. For example a club while the band is playing.

    2. Re:Short range communication = shouting? by drinkypoo · · Score: 1

      Shouting makes noise. This is relatively quiet, except for the noises you make when you sprain your shoulder/elbow trying to wave this thing fast enough to produce a coherent image.

      --
      "You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
    3. Re:Short range communication = shouting? by Engineer+Andy · · Score: 1

      I agree with your point. As annoying as it would be to see teeny boppers waving their arms around madly to get the latest ascii art up in the air to their buddies, it is not as annoying as people speaking loudly into their phones (what is with the bad design of the microphones in these things that require such raising of the voice?)

      --
      "And we have seen and do testify that the Father sent the Son to be the Savior of the World" 1 John 4:14
    4. Re:Short range communication = shouting? by drinkypoo · · Score: 1
      Shouting improves dynamic range and makes drop-outs less of a problem. The microphones on most cellular phones are excellent (from a sensitivity standpoint) and will pick up sounds from all over the room, but getting a decent signal is fairly rare and that's where you lose quality... Also, if there's noise around you, you have to be louder than it is, partly because the microphones are so sensitive.

      This is why so many asians shout on POTS; The US PSTN used to be only about 8kHz (dunno about now) and in order to express a tonal language you need at least 11kHz - I'm not sure where I got these numbers, but they came from somewhere :)

      --
      "You're right," Fisheye says. "I should have set it on 'whip' or 'chop.'"
  26. How does it know? by DanielMarkham · · Score: 4, Funny

    Whether you are waving your arm in a straght line? Seems like when you wave your arm it makes more of an arc than a line. I wonder if the phone compensates.

    And you wouldn't want to send a long message on a subway -- you'd end up whacking the people around you trying to work it out. Back up, buddy! I've got a phone here!

    1. Re:How does it know? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      [Re: compensation] Short answer: no. Long answer: I'm sure it works just like all the others: it has a single array of leds and a primitive accelerometer that keeps it synchronized with the abrupt jolts (left and right endpoints). Basically, if you wave the device in an arc, the text will also appear as an arc.

  27. Accident waiting to happen... by adam+mcmaster · · Score: 1

    Nokia said the 3220's air messaging system could be used by friends to talk to each other across crowded rooms or open-air concerts.

    Yes, because waiving a phone around in the air in a crowded room is a good idea; how long until someone gets suied for injuring someone with one of these? Or even better, how long until Nokia gets suied? Also, this would be a great way to advertise to muggers just how new and expensive your phone is.

  28. Raver Toy? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I remember seeing a toy at a rave that is essentially the same thing (minus the phone). It was the LEDs on the end of a box, attached to a handle, that you spin around in circles and it prints out messages that you can read if it is spun fast enough. It's a pretty cool trick.

  29. Ugh! by Bill_Royle · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I can see two positive things happening with this technology:

    1. People using this who accidentally hit people in the process will be sued, prompting them to stop using it.

    2. People using this may develop carpal tunnel or dislocations, prompting them to stop using it.

    Enough's enough. Just because you can do something doesn't mean you should - someone throw the engineer that came up with this off a cliff!

    1. Re:Ugh! by MoonBuggy · · Score: 1

      I'm sure the engineer forced to do this has already thrown themselves off a cliff in disgust after the marketing department convinced their boss that it's what the market wanted and that said engineer had to put it into a phone.

      Even worse, there are plenty of people I've come across that would think this is a 'cool feature' and actually waste their money on it :'-(

    2. Re:Ugh! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      someone throw the engineer that came up with this off a cliff!

      BillRoyle: byebye!

      Engineer: ahhhhhhhhh *thud*

      Engineer: *waving* SEND HELP THX!

      BillRoyle: $%^%^%^%!!!!!

  30. It's an addon ... by smk · · Score: 2, Informative

    You have to buy an extra shell to get this silly function (Available in Germany). It's like the old days when you had to buy a special battery to get vibration alarm, but this time the function is kind of useless. Imagine many people waving their mobiles in the air to communicate. Not to mention that you can't type and wave at the same time ...

    --
    * Smile. People will wonder what you think. *
  31. I smell personal injury lawsuits by kyoorius · · Score: 2, Interesting

    I can see tons of personal injury lawsuits resulting from someone wacking the next person in the head while reading their SMS's, or even worse, stabbing someone in the eye with the antenna.

  32. when was it decided by bizpile · · Score: 4, Funny

    I want to know when it was decided that all the most annoying technology would be crammed into one device and then given to basically any idiot. I sure didnt vote on that.

    1. Re:when was it decided by ps_inkling · · Score: 1
      It was decided when the phone industry started giving out profit number which require all cell phone users to replace their phones every two-to-three years.

      The last two paragraphs of this MSNBC article hints at the profit motive. As long as we keep including nifty new features on phones, we can keep consumers extending their phone contracts indefinitely into the future in exchange for phone upgrades.

      Haven't you noticed the advertising for camera cell phones recently? It's time to upgrade! Last time it was color screens. Who knows what it will be next time -- this is just testing the waters.

      FWIW, most people replace their phones because they lost the previous one, and need to get back up and talking in a jiffy.

    2. Re:when was it decided by EvilSporkMan · · Score: 1

      That's called "progress". Contrast with OSS, which is called a "threat to civilization".

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      -insert a witty something-
    3. Re:when was it decided by gcaseye6677 · · Score: 1

      Personally, the only reasons I have replaced my cell (which tends to average every 2-3 years) are because the battery crapped out and a new phone is cheaper than just a new battery, or the piece of junk just doesn't work well anymore. I think the planned obsolescense thing goes all the way back to the phone manufacturers, who don't want to build a phone so well that people end up keeping it for 7 years.

    4. Re:when was it decided by wantknowledge · · Score: 1

      Since when do we vote on what technology we want to be developed? No one is forcing you to buy this phone either. I swear slashdot is full of luddites.

  33. As silly as it sounds... by Humorously_Inept · · Score: 2, Interesting

    You have to admit that it's pretty clever. Especially being able to control the games using the same motion sensing technology. We've spent decades twisting and waving gamepads around in the air in fruitless efforts to produce that extra bit of movement in critical gaming moments - how about it actually working for a change! Why can't my console or PC do this?

    --

    ~Someday, I hope to be an aspiring author.
    1. Re:As silly as it sounds... by John+Hurliman · · Score: 1

      Pretty clever that the same electronics device plays MIDIs of Nelly's "Hot In Here" while strobing through enough LEDs to hold a small rave, causes people to take up two lanes and drive half the speed limit, allows telemarketers to sell you insurance while you use the bathroom, runs out of battery when you might need it for something actually productive, and is small enough to constantly lose?

      Oh yeah, I'm overjoyed.

  34. Spam... by Dieppe · · Score: 1

    The next thing you know this will be used by spammers too.

    "R U BIG ENUF?"

    "V.I.A.G.R.A.!"

    Well.. in 15 characters or less... They'll find a way I'm sure of it!

  35. 15 characters by thatguywhoiam · · Score: 5, Funny

    NOONECARESNOKIA

    --
    If Jesus wants me it knows where to find me.
    1. Re:15 characters by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      NOKIASWEATSHOP!

    2. Re:15 characters by whowho · · Score: 1
      Nokia's Weat Hop?

      I don't get it....

    3. Re:15 characters by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Ref Blows Goats"

    4. Re:15 characters by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nokia's next phone will come with a built-in beer tap, which discharges their trademark "Weat Hop" microbrew at the end of each call. Salespeople are expected to become even more extroverted as a result.

  36. Comment removed by account_deleted · · Score: 1

    Comment removed based on user account deletion

  37. Road Rage! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Imagine someone cuts off someone else in traffic.

    Both drivers taking their eyes off the road to tap obscene messages into their cell phones, and wildly waving their arms around to display it to the other driver.

    Lawyers, start your engines!

    1. Re:Road Rage! by ejaw5 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Well, eventually it'll weed out all the bad drivers who like to use their cell phones while driving. Take your example where Driver A cuts off Driver B:

      Driver A: (taps onto phone) YOU CUT ME OFF
      Then waves phone, then (clears existing message and taps onto phone) YOU MOTHER (screams) AHHH! Truck Tire in the middle of the road! [...] (Crash).

      Driver B: (taps into phone, then waves arms) HA HA HA HA

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      $cat /dev/random > Sig
    2. Re:Road Rage! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Then waves phone, then (clears existing message and taps onto phone) YOU MOTHER (screams) AHHH! Truck Tire in the middle of the road! [...] (Crash).

      Driver B: (taps into phone, then waves arms) HA HA HA HA

      Somebody set up us the tire?
  38. A Cool Mod by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Replace the LEDs with Lasers!

    - Red for a funny effect on the building accross
    the road.
    - Blue to look evil/cool.
    - Carbon Dioxide Lasers to cut steel. ;)

  39. Amateurs by Bin_jammin · · Score: 1

    Bah... let me know when it can do it in three quarters air. That's when I'll be really impressed...

  40. Come on by DanielMarkham · · Score: 1

    Come on, Nokia. Don't we geeks look stupid enough?

    Now you've got us flapping our arms around at concerts trying to spell "Freebird". And just think of that waving around to make the message idea. Fairly soon you can walk into any office in the country and see people acting like a frightened chicken trying to make a point to a person 2-feet away?!?

    What's next, a torso-mounted hoola-hoop that lets you surf the web? A facial-tick reader that checks the weather for you?

    I liked the pocket protectors better.

  41. It's called GSM by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    so I can have one phone to travel with internationally rather than having to keep two or three depending upon the networks

    get yourself a GSM phone from a service provider like T-Mobile (or Cingular IIRC). GSM was designed in Europe to solve the problem of the carrier not being available in every country. Just pop in the sim card that works in the area.

    And the sim card is designed to work not just in cell phones but also, say, in hotel phones/phone booths, so that the bill will go to automatically to the sim card.

    Unfortunately here in the US, GSM phones are locked by the carriers so they wouldn't work easily with other sim cards. You'd have to call customer service to have them unlocked. Or have it unlocked by a third party for a small fee (like we do in the Philippines).

    1. Re:It's called GSM by Kunabomber · · Score: 1

      Not true. In some countries(like Korea and Japan) they use CDMA exclusively, so your GSM worldphone won't do a bit of good. You can however, rent out a special CDMA phone at the airport that accepts your GSM SIM card. But you pay out your ass in roaming charges. I use Cingular, and I'm in Korea. My Ericsson t616 worldphone is rotting away. :(

  42. old stuff... by whowho · · Score: 2, Interesting
    however why didn't I think of this myself before! doh...

    This I actually saw a long time ago in a bar in London, '91 or '92... I was chatting away with some friends and I kept thinking Absolut, Absolut... that feeling like you just saw a sign for it somewhere. After a while of this subliminal pounding I notice a vertical row of bright red lights in a corner. Didn't think twice until I moved my head away from it and saw "Absolut" floating in mid air.

    Essentially just moving your eyes around the room and going past these lights a person would get "Absolut" written in mid-air for them...

    If I ever wanted a gift as much as anything, it was a row of lights like that! Many very useful purposes for an object like that come to mind... spelling out "Go into my bedroom and undress..."

    Shouldn't something like this have some subliminal regulation?

    1. Re:old stuff... by dukeisgod · · Score: 1

      It's been done before. I've seen ceiling fans that had an LED array that spelled "Heineken" as the blades spun.

  43. Please stop.... by vwjeff · · Score: 1

    it has gone far enough.

    This normally is not my mindset however this must stop. It is bad enough to hear a cell phone but now I am FORCED to see your cute little message.

    Punches self. Feels much better.

    1. Re:Please stop.... by Moofie · · Score: 1

      OK. Should we maintain some sort of registry of things you don't like to see and hear in public? Or should I just call you any time I'm going to do something that might piss you off?

      Freedom's a bitch, innit?

      --
      Why yes, I AM a rocket scientist!
  44. What will they think of next? by nytes · · Score: 2, Insightful

    I mean, this is just amazing! A system that lets you send messages by waving your arms!

    Maybe in a few more years they'll invent a system which lets you send a message by entering just dots and dashes.

    --
    -- I have monkeys in my pants.
  45. Nothing New by Planky · · Score: 1

    Aside from being on a mobile phone. I've seen modified metronomes that do this, but can spell out long sentences - of course they aren't designed for long distances. Several slashdotters have already pointed out that Disney had a toy that did the same thing.

    Last thing I want is someone waving their arms about in my face when they could get up and walk over to the person and use that thing called a mouth and utilize their own damn vocal cords.

  46. It's been done by MSG · · Score: 1

    Back in my day, we called them smoke signals.

  47. Wow by BCW2 · · Score: 0, Flamebait

    Now someone can let everyone in the area know they were stupid enough to buy this useless crap.

    And 90% of the messages displayed will be FU

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    Professional Politicians are not the solution, they ARE the problem.
    1. Re:Wow by BCW2 · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      I see the day late and intelligence deprived modder is back with points to waste. If the cowardly pig would indentify himself or just post a reply, we might find out what has his tits in an uproar.

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      Professional Politicians are not the solution, they ARE the problem.
    2. Re:Wow by BCW2 · · Score: 0, Flamebait

      The cowar modder strikes again, and my rating will not change.

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    3. Re:Wow by BCW2 · · Score: 1

      Mod me down all you want. I feel sorry for someone as negative as you. Read the new sig.

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  48. SMS in airplanes by dekeji · · Score: 1

    As far as "messages in mid-air" are concerned, I would find SMS messaging in airplanes a lot more useful than adding a disco light effect from the 1980's to mobile phones.

  49. Good thing... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    most dirty words are 15 caracters.

  50. except for the excercise, of course. by antimatt · · Score: 2, Funny

    christ on a cracker. I'm all for nerdliness, but I cannot think of a more useless non-feature.

    it used to be: phone = phone.

    it is becoming: phone = (verbal communication device) + (textual communication device) + (personal digital assistant) + (voice recorder) + (camera) + (internet access point) + (vibrator) + (portable game closet) + (GPS locator) + (status symbol)

    and now we add: ... + (arm-excercising device)

    basically it is becoming: phone != phone.

    -- --

    dear mobile manufacturers,

    NOT ALL FEATURES ARE GOOD FEATURES.

    love,
    matt.

    1. Re:except for the excercise, of course. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I thought this internet thing was a good enough arm exercising device. Maybe this phone could balance out the other arm...

    2. Re:except for the excercise, of course. by SpamJunkie · · Score: 1

      People get mad when another new feature is added to cell phones. They say stuff like, "it used to be: phone = phone". But that's not the point. The important part about mobile phones is the mobile part.

      Technology is getting smaller so more things can fit into a cell phone. What's happening is that everything people might want to carry with them at all times is being added to cellphones. That's amazing, incredible, and it will only become more impressive as time goes on. Soon your cell phone, iPod, PDA (hell, laptop) will be one device.

      Now think of the other things you carry with you: car keys, house keys, wallet. Those will get added too, eventually. Don't be afraid, the security will be worked out, probably so well that it'll be more difficult to take your phone and steal your car than it currently is to steal your keys and take your car.

      Back when computers were the size of small airplane hangars there were people complaining about all the fancy new features of computers and they said stuff like, "it used to be that computer = calculator".

    3. Re:except for the excercise, of course. by Sneeka2 · · Score: 1
      Soon your cell phone, iPod, PDA (hell, laptop) will be one device. [...]


      Cool, so you will be able to lose your personal data including your address, your house and car keys, your credit card details and/or any kind of money card perhaps + the phone you could use to block access to these things all at the same time.
      And you can't even use your music player to cheer you up...

      I for one greet our new life ruining overlords!
      --
      Bitten Apples are still better than dirty Windows...
  51. It will be a definate improvement in one way... by ImEric12 · · Score: 0

    If anyone has ever tried any of the current devices for creating messages in the air using LED's, namely the one which you swirl around to create the message, you'll know that this is a definate improvement in typing the message.. while text messages are generally painfully slow to type, entering whole sentances having to scroll through the whole alphabet and symbols using 3 buttons is torturously, mind-numbingly slow and annoying.

  52. Pre-programed characters? by astro128 · · Score: 0

    You gotta know where this is going... If it does not use pre-programmed character or if you can import characters, you could give people the virtual finger all night long! I can't wait to use it while driving in my car in the dark when normally people can't see me flip them off. -It is better to have loved and LEARNED than to never have loved at all

  53. Any one heard of I-top ... by auburnate · · Score: 1
    Its a cool spinning top with a row of 8 LEDs. As you spin the top the LEDs light up in different patterns and messages. It has built-in games and uses a magnetic compass to stabilize the messages. The best thing about the tops is its price at Walmart ... under ten bucks!!! I think I want to buy a second to hack the compass.

    Itop Website

  54. ASCII porn by arabagast · · Score: 1

    Imagine flashing some nice ASCII p0rn in public, would make some really nice fun :)
    Old Lady: Henry *roll with eyes* what *is* that thing hanging in the air by that kid, yeah, the one shaking his hand all around his head with one of these teechno things?
    Henry: Ehrm, it seems to be a womans ..erhm.. privates, Edna.

    It`s not about the money, it`s about the things they buy.

    --
    Doolittle : ...What is your one purpose in life?
    Bomb no.20 : To explode of course.
  55. you guys don't get it by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    It's not supposed to be useful. It supposed to be fun. It's phone/toy. Motion sensitive games sounds cool, and you might actually use it to wave your phone number or something.

  56. MOD PARENT -1 IMPOSSIBLE by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny


    face to face communication is years away !

  57. Interesting that... by MarcoAtWork · · Score: 1

    the graphic in the article makes the phone spell out the word 'FUN', my money is on people using this a lot for messages that start out with the same two letters but end up differently, especially in traffic: I mean, come on, even if you scream at somebody who cut you off they won't hear you, now you'll be able to wave the phone at them and let them know how you REALLY feel (I wonder if this comes with a preference to spell things backwards so they'll appear straight up in rearview mirrors).

    It's also definitely quite a possibility that somebody will stand up in the dark movie theatre and wave this thing around to tell nice things to all the folks sitting behind... not to mention the applications in school during tests and so on.

    Jaded? cynical? maybe, but really, come on, this seems really like one of those products where the distruptive uses far outweigh the benefits it can afford...

    --
    -- the cake is a lie
  58. Very useful. by Wolfier · · Score: 0, Redundant

    AT LAST. A sure way to say "F*** You" to another driver on the road.

    1. Re:Very useful. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Try a low-tech method of making a fist and extended a middle finger. Never failed for me. No need to type anything while driving too.

  59. tailgators by the_Bionic_lemming · · Score: 1

    I can't wait to type in F U Tailgator, and wave it while driving into the guardrail since I'm not paying attention to the road...

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  60. Bah... by Afromelonhead · · Score: 1

    This is old news to me. This summer, some of my friends figured out a way to get this to work on a modified fan (i.e. the LEDs were mounted on one of the fan's fins). While I'm not sure how exactly they got it to work (I just saw the final project, but they hooked it up to the computer somehow), it was kinda cool just to see the thing work.

    Besides, it helped to cool you down. What could be better? In fact, these would probably work fairly well at amusement parks with the fans producing subliminal messages (along the lines of "Buy More Pepsi!") as well as cooling the people off.

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    1. Re:Bah... by markxz · · Score: 1

      some of my friends figured out a way to get this to work on a modified fan

      I have seen these in the UK for over a year advertising Guinness Extra Cold

  61. For Sale: one Futurama reference by Rassleholic · · Score: 0, Offtopic

    Top quality exercicle for sale

    /should've been in bold

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  62. Seems familiar.... by Anhaedra · · Score: 0

    I don't know if this was mentioned before, but I'd rather keep looking at porn than read 126+ comments to see if it was. Anyways, devices that do this have been around for several years, I always see them in the Discovery Store in the mall...

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  63. The Future... OF SPAM by TaddS · · Score: 1

    This really seems to me like it could be used in a plethora of really obnoxious ways. I live in San Francisco and we have enough people walking around talking loudly into their cellphones and typing out SMS with their key-tones set on "LOUD AS FREAKIN' POSSIBLE" so I'm sure that very soon I will see two pre-teens standing on opposite street cornors waving "OMG BILLY LOOKED AT ME IN MATH CLASS" and "OMG HE 3 3 3s U" to eachother... I guess it will give people more fodder for The Chronicle's Public Evesdropping section, though.

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  64. VERY USEFUL by Wolfier · · Score: 0, Redundant

    At Last, a sure way to say "F*** You" to another driver on the road!!

  65. and ... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    "fly to this tower"

  66. Tell me they're bluetooth? by bfree · · Score: 1

    I can just picture a beowolf cluster of them .... no wait, before you mod me down, my cricket club could do with a giant led scoreboard so all I have to do is wait til most people wanna dump them, get my hands on a few hundred and build a little bluetooth machine to control them. I'm not insane ... REALLY @~}

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  67. ip over AIR by TheGratefulNet · · Score: 2, Funny

    so, next out will be an RFC about how to packetize IP datagrams and wrap them in this led-air 'transport'. but its one way, so how do you get ack's and stuff? well, that's just a detail, save that for AFTER we get funding.

    IP over ASCII LED air painting.

    at least it will be faster than ip over carrier pidgeon (which IS an actual RFC, btw).

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    1. Re:ip over AIR by ryen · · Score: 1

      http://www.ietf.org/rfc/rfc1149.txt

      finally a use for the little bastards.

  68. I resent that! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I am that drunken, stone asshole!

  69. Mountable Version for Cars by nurb432 · · Score: 1

    I want one to mount in the back of my car to tell tail-gaters to goto hell...

    Saw something like this at the local drugstore, it displayed time via a row of lites on a oscillating wand mounted in a small plastic box..

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  70. Haha - it already exists! by pelrun · · Score: 1

    Nintendo released a device like this last year called the Pokemotion - and I have one. Amongst it's presets are a whole set of ascii smileys (the japanese variant, at least, but still recognisable as such.)

    Scared yet? :)

    1. Re:Haha - it already exists! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      japanese variants? they have '|' for eyes instead of ':'?

  71. I've got a message by Pirow · · Score: 2, Interesting

    "steal me!" The phone has some nice features (XHTML browser for one), but all the LEDs seem to do is advertise to would-be theives that you've got an expensive phone.

  72. Useful 15 letter messages for this device. by ikkonoishi · · Score: 3, Funny

    "HANG UP & DRIVE"
    "U R IN MY LANE!"
    "SAME TO YOU ASS"
    "DAMN TAILGATER!"

    this is a bunch of lower case letters to avoid the lameness filter so you can ignore it if you like or not if it fits your preference.

  73. Brilliant Marketing by Colonel+Failure · · Score: 1, Funny

    What a great idea, a phone that you have to wave wildly in the air to send your message! The marketing people at Nokia are geniuses. It has built in repeat sales all over it. Think of all the extras they can sell too! Impact insurance, bystandard protection plan and of course for the die hards little tethers like on surfboards.

  74. Hmmm, let's see...... by d474 · · Score: 2, Funny

    Nokia said the 3220's air messaging system could be used by friends to talk to each other across crowded rooms or open-air concerts.

    Okay, let me see, I'm in a crowded room, a party let's say, and my drunk friend is trying to get my attention. What takes longer, for drunk boy to pull out the phone, get to the proper menu, drunk type into the phone using T9, press ok, wave the phone like a madman, only to have it slip out of his hand and go flying across the room and hit the hot chick in the head he was trying to point out to me......

    OR, is it easier for him just to yell my name and spare the girl a head injury? Which is easier?

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  75. Maybe you didn't hear me. by xanderwilson · · Score: 1

    I said I wanted BETTER battery life. I must be breaking up, sorry. I'll try you on a landline.

    Alex.

  76. Old, old, old tech by jridley · · Score: 1

    There have been numerous toys that do this; a waving wand thing, a frisbee with programmable message, etc. I built one with a hardcoded logo about 15 years ago.

    Here's another example:
    http://www.luberth.com/analog.htm

  77. Re:/. News for nerds.. and where did they go? by DeXtroMe · · Score: 1

    Ummm... so what exactly do you think you'll enter the message to display with the LEDS with? I would guess probably the phone's 'patheric excuse for a keyboard'...

  78. I want one of this for my car! by Phybersyk0 · · Score: 4, Funny

    If you could make it print the characters in reverse it'd be awesome!

    My first messages would be:

    "Put Down The Phone And Drive"
    "Eat when you get home!"
    "I think you've eaten enough already"
    "Watch TV when you get home."
    "Nice stereo. Turn it down."
    "POLICE"
    "OMG WTF LOL"

    1. Re:I want one of this for my car! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Informative

      A friend of mine once setup a scrolling LED display in his rear window. Before installation he asked local & state police and found that unless you're an emergency vehicle (e.g. police, ambulance, fire truck), you cannot have a sign in your front window that is written backwards so as to be legible in the rearview mirror. LED, printed, anything.

      The idea is that people will be distracted trying to read the message and will get into an accident because they're stupid enough not to simultaneously pay attention to the road and read your message. Your state may have a different law, but it's something to think about.

      In my state, if an accident occurred while you were waving the phone, you would probably get arrested. At least 10 years ago, this was a felony, and with those you don't get a nice little paper ticket to drive away with, you get to experience the joy of having mom/dad/significant-other/good-friend bail you out out jail.

    2. Re:I want one of this for my car! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      i can just see a blonde waving it and throwing it a whole fuicking mile

  79. Nokia ring tone sales? by sploxx · · Score: 3, Funny

    I once heard (maybe an urban legend, but anyway) that Nokia is making 30% of their sales with... ... RINGTONES.

    Maybe someone has the exact numbers availbe?

    Such a gimmick seems to be a very thoughtful addition to the phone for me.
    Now, Nokia could start selling people LED-Messages. And, since they pay alot for ___RINGTONES___...

  80. Gives new meaning to.... by gkuz · · Score: 1

    ...what we used to call, way back when I was in college, a "hand-waving argument" -- which just meant putting a poorly documented line of reasoning up on the board and hoping nobody noticed that the logic to tie it together just wasn't there.

  81. Re:old stuff... not entirely by TekGoNos · · Score: 1

    Well, the principle is old,
    doing it on a static (metronome on a bar counter) or a predictible (like a bikes wheel) device is easy.

    (BTW, the metronome version is available at ThinkGeek if you want it now)

    What's new it that it mesures your (irregular) arm movements and adapts to them. Then again, we'll have to see how well it'll do in real.

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  82. All you Negative Nellys by Fizzl · · Score: 1

    Look. The company is making gazillion products a year. So what if some of them look like a candy bar and have oddball features like this?
    Does that take anything from you?
    No, it's-funny-laugh-debt.

  83. While you're fiddling with your climate control... by nounderscores · · Score: 1

    ...You hit me as I cross the road.

    YouDrive, IDie.

    Tune out the distractions or I end up in traction. The best driver interface should make all nondriving functions of the car inaccessable from the driver's seat unless the car is at rest. What do you think people riding shotgun are for?

    However I am all for tactile feedback gear shifts and drive by wire and head's up displays. Just keep the nonessential stuff out of the driver's hands, until the driver parks. Too hot? Radio station sucks? Put up with it or pull over.

  84. Now, is that cute redhead by the bar... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
    ...waving out 'FUCK YOU' or 'I WANT TO FUCK YOU'?

    Oh, how we laughed at Kirrin Island.

  85. Re:old stuff... not entirely by whowho · · Score: 1

    Well the interesting thing about the absolut LED ad in the bar I saw was that it didn't seem like it was moving itself... If you looked at the LEDs directly you wouldn't see anything. Swinging your vision across the room the writing would appear for a second. Hence even more of a subtle/subliminal effect.

  86. Re:While you're fiddling with your climate control by gcaseye6677 · · Score: 1

    Are you seriously saying that you pull your car over to change a radio station or to turn the heat down? I'm no fan of distracted driving, but I am more than able to hit a preset button without taking my attention off of the road. Driving across flat prairie land does not take much concentration anyway.

  87. Test run by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I got a preview of this myself. I'm much too lazy to wave my arm so what I do is mount it on to my Segway and rock back and forth till the person reads the message.

  88. Survival Tool by ctime · · Score: 3, Insightful

    As much as this feature seems annoying to most people reading slashdot, it might actually come in handy in certain situations:

    That said, this is obviously only going to work in certain situations, namely dark rooms or at night, but what I find interesting is the fact it will be VERY easy and obvious for someone to pick you out of a crowd of people when your waving this around. Imagine emergency situations where it might be difficult to discribe your exact location and someone that is despirately trying to find you (At a concert, park, out lost in the wilderness etc), or even something as simple as alerting someone driving around trying to find you (and have never meet you before perhaps?), you could easily attract their attention, plus include a message they understand.

    Now, granted 99% of the time it's going to be completely useless, but for the fact that the other 1% of the time this allows you to communicate more effectively, I think it's really not a bad idea.

    I would also like to point out that the average slashdot reader should have no problems waving the phone around for extended periods of time (granted they use their right hand).

  89. I'm a DJ, not a jukebox... damnit by b00m3rang · · Score: 1

    DJing is the artform of presenting and combining songs in new ways, setting the mood and telling a story with music (not to mention turntablism). If you just want to pick a song and have it played at your command, buy a Wurlitzer.

  90. This has been done before (but not on a phone) by drewhearle · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Reminds me of propeller clocks (also here, here, here...)
    ...or the similar mechanically scanned displays.
    Spacewriter sells some very cool full-color displays. Their iBall 3D display is also sold at AudioVisualizers - check their site out for more animated demos.
    There's also the Virtual Game System (Google cache) which was amazing; unfortunately the site is down so you'll have to settle for text and no pictures.

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  91. Big Deal by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I am using my shark with a freakn' laser mounted on his head for drawing pictures in mid air for years now.

  92. Over the Air? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    In my opinion, the manufactuers, should develop a short message system, that doesnt carrier text messaging.

    Just finding the user within the little range of the phone in an area where there is no reception, or setting up a message "base station" where places like datacenters wouldnt have to purchase phones with messaging costs, where they can send messages in house.

    But they wont do that any time soon, as it takes money away from the carriers. Although, messaging in a small room, quickly and efficiently with out a carrier would be useful. Theme Parks, Schools(The teeny Boppers), or any large events.

    The event could also send "Broadcasts" informing the device users, that a ride has been closed, or a flight has been delayed. etc.,

  93. yea but... by WormholeFiend · · Score: 1

    can you side-talk with it?

  94. Actually, could be useful by Ambush_Bug · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Pretty much every comment has been disparaging... like "oooh... what do we need this for?"

    I can think of one case where it would be useful: hearing impaired individuals.... Imagine trying to shout across a a street or something to a deaf friend.. not going to work. but if you could wave and message them, then it allows communication over "earshot" distances easier.

    1. Re:Actually, could be useful by Lord_Dweomer · · Score: 1
      True, I imagine with the 15char limit you might see the following:

      "LOOKOUTFORCAR!!"
      "YOURFLYISOPEN"
      "I DIGDEAFCHICKS"

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    2. Re:Actually, could be useful by EnglishDude · · Score: 1

      There's already a communication method employed by deaf people that works very well in loud environments and over very long distances - that's called sign language.

    3. Re:Actually, could be useful by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I hope it's night as nobody can see it in the daylight.

    4. Re:Actually, could be useful by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      How is a cell phone useful to a deaf person?
      They have an alternative, it's called the Sidekick. If they see a friend, they SMS them.

  95. I bought one of those by archnerd · · Score: 1

    I programmed it to say "Get Linux" and wandered down Main Street waving it around. A few people actually made a sign that they knew what I was talking(? blinking? waving?) about.

  96. And, by archnerd · · Score: 1

    in the case of one hardcore Micros~1 fanatic, that sign involved a certain obscene gesture.

  97. Hang up and Drive by ayden · · Score: 1

    People talking on a cell phone while driving is bad enough. Can you imagine some idiot in an SUV waving one of these things at other drivers?

    As Click and Clack say, Drive Now, Talk Later.

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  98. Hacked message by noidentity · · Score: 1

    Yeah and then someone will hack it to show a different message than you entered (you'd only notice if you waved it to yourself or in a mirror).

  99. OMGWTFBBQ by CritterNYC · · Score: 1

    If you're even thinking abou getting one, please just go get it out of your system. Walk into the store. Enter in OMGWTFBBQ. Spin it around. Watch the reactions. Get bored. Leave.

  100. WOW! A 1981 toy in a new phone! by f1ipf10p · · Score: 1

    OK, so now we have a phone based implementation of 1981 toy that is "cutting edge"?

    The Sky-Writer by Ideal was a wand like item that you could program to say whatever you wanted by waving LED's in the air.

    I had one of these as an 11-year-old.

    It was nine years later before I got my first "bag phone" (a Motorola).

    Of course, it could be great now for those times I'd like to tell some D.C. beltway drivers MHO of their skills...

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  101. Already got one? by Doc+Ruby · · Score: 1

    My Treo 600 screen is pretty damn bright. Couldn't I get an app that does what these LED's do? Is the refresh rate fast enough to strobe for the retina persistence effect?

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  102. Hmmm by sbszine · · Score: 1

    So, I thought that was the rationale for why a D.J. is more than just some poser replacing a CD player... that they somehow responded to the crowd.

    Sigh. Normally the way a DJ responds to the crowd is by trying different tracks and seeing which style is getting the best response. For example, if a hard beat makes people leave the dancefloor, you'd play something funkier next. One guy with a phone does not represent the crowd as a whole.

    If you don't want input from the jackasses in the crowd then what are you doing up there?

    Maybe introducing people to some interesting music they haven't heard before? I'm guessing from the anti-DJ slant you're more of a live band kind of a guy. Well, imagine if every band only played covers and requests -- your local music scene would get stale pretty quickly. That's pretty much what you're proposing here.

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    1. Re:Hmmm by Cus · · Score: 2, Informative

      Heartily agree with you - one individual does not represent the crowd. I think the grandparent thinks of club DJs in the same breath as the 'turns' you get who play at wedding receptions.

      Instead, if you treat club DJs the same way you would a live band you'll get more out of it. Trust the DJ :-) When was the last time a live act paid attention to an individual in the crowd shouting for a song?

      If you want to hear the tunes you want all the time, stay at home or go somewhere that has a jukebox :-)

  103. I guess cell phones weren't annoying enough... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    People yell into them...they ring all the time...people answer them while on dates. And now, you can slug someone in the side of the head as you wave your phone back and forth. The only good thing is that I'll bet a zillion of these phones are going to be accidentaly tossed 10 meters!

    Here are a few other ideas I'm sure will appear on every 15 year old's cell phone in the next six months:

    1) laser pointer - for when yelling and waving aren't annoying enough. Now a person with a cell phone can piss off everyone within a hundred meters.

    2) loud WWII-style submarine klaxon

    3) button that releases hydrogen sulfide while the phone yells "Dude! He who smelt it dealt it!"

    4) taser add-on, for when an adult complains about features 1-3

    "I'm Anonymous Coward, and I approved this message."

  104. Isn't there some program out there that.. by shrewmy · · Score: 0

    takes a song and converts it into the nokia ring tone thing that you can text message to yourself for at most 10cents? It's late and I'm TLTG to find out what it was called.

    I don't know, I haven't used my Nokia in a long time. I upgraded to a T616 and have been in happy FREE ringtone heaven sending midi's over bluetooth.

    Is bluetooth expensive to implement or something? I'm suprised most cellphones on the market don't have it yet.

    But then again my friend who has a Motorola camera phone with Verizon just got a $132 bill, which was pretty much just from him mms'ing the pictures he took to his email account... So I can kind of understand why they're resistant to the tooth.

  105. In no vation by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Maybe clippy wasn't such a bad idea after all.

  106. Re:/. News for nerds.. and where did they go? by tarunthegreat2 · · Score: 1

    Pathetic excuse for a keyboard my left foot. T9 works just fine for most messages (in English at least, can't say about other languages). I wouldn't even mind having T9 for use with a computer. It's 5 taps to get 'hello' with a normal keyboard, and 5 taps on a phone with T9. If you've got the need for a keyboard, get the Nokia 6810....

  107. Thanks Nokia by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Great , another way to ruin my movie night.Like laser pointers weren't bad enough.

  108. Parent funny!! Mod up by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    This is probably the funniest thing I've ever read on slashdot.

  109. NOKIA = the worst human factors design extant by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    All I can say is :

    1) why bother posting this to /. ?

    2) a phone is a phone. Secondary functions such as games or crap like this are just an example that the company has run out of useful ideas.

    3) Nokia's ABSURD keypad designs are a glaring example that they should be devoting design efforts elsewhere.

  110. old school.. by idsCypher · · Score: 0

    "A motion sensor in the phone makes the lights blink in a sequence that spells out letters when the handset is waved in the air." thats old school im trying to make smoke signs with my cell phone. :|

  111. Round cabinet by MGrie · · Score: 1

    File under "Useless Nokia invention No. 174432".

    It's actually pretty sad to see Nokia go from "best phones around" to "bad design with useless gimicks" in such a short time.
    Imho the N3210 is one of the best mobiles, that are just phones and nothing more, but after that, Nokia pretty much lost it.

    1. Re:Round cabinet by The+Conductor · · Score: 1

      Imho the N3210 is one of the best mobiles

      A big seller, too. We made 40 million antennas for that model. In those days you could hardly walk around here without stepping on one that fell on the factory floor.

  112. yes, but don't think this is what OP meant by RMH101 · · Score: 0

    ...aside from the bands, on each band there may be a number of service providers you have a roaming agreement with. when i take my uk, vodafone T630 to sweden, i can roam with a number of different phone companies. the phone has the option to manually select, say, vodafone sweden, so you can choose the one with the cheapest roaming.

  113. nothing to do with safety? by RMH101 · · Score: 1

    ...so when i plough into the back of you in my 2 ton 7 series because i was too busy fiddling with idrive trying to change the radio station or use sat nav, then that's ok?

  114. 15 characters? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Since the phone obviously compensates for how fast your arm is waving, wouldn't be just as easy to have it change lines with every wave? Like displaying 15 characters one the first wave, then another 15 until it reaches the end of the message, then back to the begining?

    I only skimmed TFA, but I didn't see anything other than 15 character display. Seems it would be more practical, unless you're writing a book.

  115. Nokia R&D having a slow day by hairykrishna · · Score: 0

    I swear they're stealing ideas from their college electronics lab notes- what's nex? Phone mounted potato clock all the way

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  116. Singapore Airlines does this by Cousin+Dupree · · Score: 1

    Singapore Airlines already offers in-flight SMS.

  117. Nokia Sales Increase? by goughb · · Score: 1

    Imagine though, with everyone waving these phone around and... Ooops there it goes tossed onto the concrete. Time to buy new phone.

  118. Missed opportunity by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Shame it can't translate into l33t.....

  119. How is this different... by BenEnglishAtHome · · Score: 1

    ...from the message wands that were sold as toys starting, oh, about 30 YEARS ago?

    I made a total dork out of myself back then when I bought one and took it to a Heart concert. Every time Nancy Wilson got close to where I was sitting, I'd madly wave the thing in the air spelling out "I LOVE YOU."

    It's nice to see that the supply of dorks in this world is sufficient to support sales of an updated version of that ancient device. It's too bad they haven't figured out that most people can already figure out they're dorks and that they don't need to flail their arms about to draw attention to that fact.

  120. honey.. by manavendra · · Score: 1

    ..i just joined the mile high club!

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  121. S-U-R-R-E-N-D-E-R by OSI7 · · Score: 1

    D-O-R-O-T-H-Y

  122. Re:/. News for nerds.. and where did they go? by Rhubarb+Crumble · · Score: 1
    T9 works just fine for most messages (in English at least, can't say about other languages).

    Only if you're polite, or can be bothered to teach it swearwords. I have a friend who is neither, and have received lots of messages telling me I'm a "ducking aunt" :)

    My favourite grips is that at least on my phone you can't change the order in which word options appear, so "pub" (which features in about 50% of my texts) comes after "sub" and "rub" (which feature in 0%). Sucks....

  123. Exercise by Scodiddly · · Score: 1

    Given the sorry state of physical fitness in the US, I'd think some excuse to wave one's arm wildly would be at least slightly beneficial.

  124. Re:/. News for nerds.. and where did they go? by DeXtroMe · · Score: 1

    Both of these are non-issues for T9 on my phone (Motorola V60i Color) as you can easily add words to the dictionary, and it actually organizes the words that appear by how often you use them. EVen if this isn't the case in your phone, it's what, two extra keypresses to selec 'pub' instead of 'sub' or 'rub'.

  125. Minor quibble by Kiryat+Malachi · · Score: 1

    BOM = Bill of Materials, not Balance.

    And yes. I've personally gotten commended by my boss's boss for cutting about 2 cents off our BOM by getting rid of a resistor; why? Because we know we're going to sell 1 million plus of that particular module.

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    1. Re:Minor quibble by pond0123 · · Score: 1

      That'll teach me to try and expand acronyms for people... ;)

    2. Re:Minor quibble by Kiryat+Malachi · · Score: 1

      If I hadn't spent the last couple days updating a BOM and delta file for a 2000 component system by hand, I probably wouldn't even have thought of it.

      But I've looked at the words Bill of Materials across the title bar for two days straight, damn it.

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  126. I predict repeat sales by Mawbid · · Score: 1

    ...as people start waving their phones without having a firm hold on them, and end up just hurling them at walls, roads, lakes, ...people's heads.

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  127. Re:/. News for nerds.. and where did they go? by Rhubarb+Crumble · · Score: 1
    and it actually organizes the words that appear by how often you use them.

    I wish mine did that, but hey, it's just a nokia 3330, it does NOTHING clever whatsoever...which is the way I like it...(although I can add words)

    EVen if this isn't the case in your phone, it's what, two extra keypresses to selec 'pub' instead of 'sub' or 'rub'.

    Which is just as many (5) as it takes the stupid way (p t->u a->b). :)

  128. Moo by Chacham · · Score: 1

    I remember in the St. Louis Science Museum some time back, they had a vertical row of LEDs on the wall. There were some mirrors, that said to take one, turn around (mirror facing LEDs) and shake back and forth.

    After a bit, I realized that it was the *mirror* that was to be shaken! :) And then, delightedly noticed the message. Of course, i then helped a other bewildered users.

    It is kewl. I just wonder when the first law suits will come in about possible offensive LED lightings....

  129. And after that: by lildogie · · Score: 1

    pr0n

  130. It's been done before by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    There was a hobbyist electronics project in the 80s to make a wand that did this. I think it was in one of the British computer magazines for the BBC micro. Hopefully they don't try to patent it.

  131. old, old idea by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    made this in high school, for physics class. stick with pic16f84 microcontroller and 8 LEDs. i did not know about the toys at the time, though.

  132. Great, but does it run Linux? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Oh well, can you at least change the font?

  133. Re:While you're fiddling with your climate control by nounderscores · · Score: 1

    Ok, maybe not you on flat prarie land. I don't walk there. But I do have to wonder about the people who are vacantly fiddlin with knobs unrelated to driving as they roll over the crosswalk outside outside my local mall regardless of whether I'm there or not.

    Or those people who page through thousands of Mp3 folders while wavering all over their lane behind me on the freeway, so close that I can see them swapping CDs from through my rearview mirror. I always change lanes when that comes up.

    No, I turn on my radio before I disengage the hand brake and it stays tuned until I stop.

    We keep on putting more and more functions at the drivers fingertips... isn't it time that making a car as fun as a living room became a two person job?