I don't believe they should keep any by default, other than those pertaining directly too their localized network.
I believe that the option to have whatever type of logging is possible should lie with a given client, and that all clients should be told expressly what logs are being kept by their ISP. One of an ISP's main responsibilites should be the privacy of their clients.
An ISP is a road that leads out too the world. Some people choose to live in gated communites where a physical log of everyone who passes through the enterence gates is kept and suspicious looking fellows are detained by a security guard. Other people buy a plot of land right next to the highway, and don't care who goes by.
And as such, it's still in a state where teething problems overwhelm content.
Absolutely... however, the fact that these snops are taking place during the teething period make them far more interesting. Periods of change offer far more insight and interesting data reflective on a given society than studying it's finished product ever has/will.
<i>Research carried out my both my consultancy group and others all indicate that the majority of people able to use the web are white, middle-class and certainly in higher than average tax brackets...</i>
Two comments here... First, are you throwing out the entire archive because this particular demographic is not important or something? Or maybe because it's not a politcally correct one it shouldn't be considered relevent for societal inquary? Second Throughout history, recorded history has almost always been about the more affluent classes... A dark ages serf really doesn't have the resources to commission an expose on his life. However there are long and well practiced methods of studying one class to determine how another lived. Historians aren't so ignorant that if all the information they have is on white middle class suburbia, they assume that white middle class suburbia is all that existed. Don't edit or discard information because <b>you</b> don't think it's relevent. That type of historical auditing forever cripples the studies of future generations. Additionally, enough random people for very different demographics are also up and running on the internet that alot of their information is also recorded. Historical studies unlike politcal ones (and your points are all politcal, none historical) are not an exercise polling the statistical data of the given information in order to appeal too the politcally correct, or the politcal majority at any given moment. You are being far to arrogant yourself and way undereastimating historians who haven't even been born yet.
<i>Anyway, any study that attempts to categorise how we live at the moment using the web is doomed to be prejudiced and incomplete...</i>
Any study based on any single source is always doomed to be incorrect. However, there is no absolutely correct histories anywhere, which is why there is always on-going historical study.
You take far to much upon yourself, and far too much credit from those who do this for passion and for living.
If you are involved in the development of any of the new programming tools or IDE's, you'll notice that visual studio is closely studied. It is the benchmark for a development environment.
Anyone who approaches working with visual studio with an open mind will find that it is the most flexible and powerful development environment out there. you can even use your makefiles and gnu tools with a custom build process if you so desire. Sure you have the limitations of the system you are programming on, however, don't use that to attack the tool.
For a person who is used to working within visual studio, moving to a vi(m)/ or (x)emacs development environment is literally moving back into the stone age.
As to changing an SDI app into an MDI app, no you don't have to create a new project,
Add a CMainWin class which inherits from CMDIFrameWnd, Migrate all your toolbars and non-document specific menu's.
Then change your other windows to inherit CMDIChildWnd make a few changes in theApp class and you have an MDI program.
Thats won't give you a complete program though and the project will still require a lot of major hacking, mostly to deal with mutiple instances of child windows and what not.
-T
Re:this would save me seconds a week!
on
Linux BIOS
·
· Score: 1
Except that NT takes just as long to boot as linux...
Unfortunately, the situation is not as simple as that... The scientists themselves are often unable to deal with their advancements, or the systems in which the advancements are made implement them in a less than wonderful way.
Humanity and technology are inseperable, and one creates the other which effects the first... claiming luddite zealotry or it's opposite serves no purpose but to infuriate everyone.
Change on the sort of level implied here is something that should happen at least as slowly as it is... Look out our history, every major technological break through has been followed by a massive human toll, in the forms of human abuse, war, pollution etc... Assuming that sufficiently advanced sience will solve these problems is infintile... as much as we've managed to solve any of these problems, the solution has come from human structures, planning, and understanding, not from a magical miracle invention that makes it all better.
Sience is a discipline, and it's offspring, technology, is a tool that is historically very powerful, and very unreliable.
New technology and it's implications have NEVER been understood before implemented by those that look to ever advancing science and technology as the new messiah... and the price has always been paid in human or environmental suffering.
If you are the first too poor your soul into a new metal body, i wish you luck. But i won't have sympathy for you when it's discovered that something wasn't put together quite right and your brain.... crashes?
They can _attempt_ to do anything they want... and that sort of restriction is something that our wonderfuly technologically knowledgable courts might not find unreasonable....
You're forgetting the ambigous placement of the word _only_... which seems to imply that is the _only_ way you can distribute it though it could mean you can distribute it in executible _only_ form...
What it comes down too is it's just a really really poorly written statement.
remember, Sparrow and Pheonix AAM's have been in use since the early 80's... Tamahawk cruise missles were designed in the 70's and most were manufactured in the mid to late 80's... that kinda precludes G4's doncha think...
Anyway, i was specifically referring to the fly-by-wire subsystem of the F-16, which is infact... an 8086.
No.... This is not what goes into a jetfigher, at least not any of the current production ones. The F-16 runs of what is basically an 8086.
Hunh, whodathunk your XT could star in iron eagle XII.
Anyway, that's one of the reasons for all of the slashdot dubbed insane US export restrictions... because some of the most powerful "modern" war machines are laced together from "old" technology.
A plethora of strong opinoins is what makes a contraversy.
There is a plethora of strong opinions concerning the inclusion of reiserFS, thus there is a reiserFS contraversy.
What would you rather have it called... T reiserfs strongly worded discussion, the reiserfs mild issue or some other suitibly politically correct euphamism?
To talk about 'i don't like that line about the resier fs "conttraversy"' is so inane.
Lets, for the sake of argument, assume that your are infact raping the music industry when you trade "illeagle" mp3's.
Lets examine how that effects the artist. One could point out that if you have the entire cd, or, as much if it as you want, on mp3, you don't buy the cd. So what. You've just deprived the artist of *gasp* slightly less than a 1 cent. If they would sell a million records, and don't... thats a whopping 10,000 dollars. Gee, your improvishing them. The rest of the money goes to the record studios, who incidently, charge the artists for their studio time -- you know all that hard effort of writing and recording songs. Oh incidenlty, most of the (c) for those songs are held by.... GASP the record company!!! so you can't even make money on your music by performing it without rc approval.
It's the record companies themselves that consistantly rape artists, from behind, with rusty baseball bats. The proliferation of mp3 and the greatest amount of damage it could possibly do, doesn't compare with an arists interaction with their label.
I hate it when people scream 'protecting the artists' when that is complete and utter bullshit. It's protecting the labels.
-Tilde "I'll kill you and everyone you've ever met starting with.... Me!" and
Delphi would be a huge contribution to the community.
One of the largest things holding linux back in not tech centric companies is the lack of a RAD. Alot of services companies (insurance companies, book stores, buisness devisions of retailers etc.) will not use linux because much of their internal development requires insane fast turnarounds of pretty gui custom apps. As an example, there's an app we use that reads your login, uses it to autheticate you off a database, waits for your input then goes back to that database to pull up forms and other matching data then dynamically generates partially or completely filled out service and order forms in pdf format and feeds it back to the user for inspection and printing. This app was built from existing components in about a day by one developer using visual basic. The gui is kinda ameturish, but it's pretty and everything works as expected, sure the program is redardedly slow and you need runtime libraries but it went through its entire development cycle in less than a week.
Thats not something you can currently do on Linux. Not the app itself but the end to end development time. Tools like VB, Delphi, Centura, and Java to an extent, are vital to non-tech companies that do inhouse development.
Having Delphi on Linux would upon that market, which is far larger than the tech market, up to opensource. The exposure alone is more than worth the drawbacks.
Was in incorrect. Not according to any comment i've read yet.
The specific monarchies i was referring too were actually the ottoman empire, and the austro-hungarian empire, and the british empire.
The austrian empire was wracked by interanal conflict over land rights and rulership to the point where it officially changed it's name.
The ottoman empire, despite the sultancy (is that a word, i'm sure you'll correct me) was pretty much run by it's predominantly greek merchant class.
The british empire. Not on the continent? rofl. I guess manhatten's not part of new your because it floats off the coast. Personally, i think i'll move to the state of... long island? Anyway to get back to my point, and away from your attempt at one, remember the magna carta?
No offense... but you really don't know what a mainframe is, what it does, or why they are used.
TERRABYTES of data pass through in mainframe every couple of hours. there are times when there are over ten thousand concurrent connections to the db2 database all doing inserts and reads, then asking for processing, then getting huge volumes of output back.
a PC cluster using ANY os, just doesn't have the I/O links, either inside the machine or too it's outside world, it just ain't there.
As to your comment about apps and what they use, you have never played with serious apps. Try using cp to backup your harddrive to anouther one on the same bus, and set the threads priority to real time and then go and do something else. thats a very simple example, and doesn't even come close to the type of data handling mainframes (even those from the 60's and 70's) routinely handle without a problem.
Thats kind of a bad example. Those uh... great monarchies of continental europe had already lost almost all of their power buy that time and formally "gifting" power to the (more or less) democratic institutions that had already taken all/most of the power away from the monarchy was mostly a prosaic show to maintain the good faith of "the masses."
The specific centralization of power in a monarchy was a battle thats been raging since man instituted social structures. The centralization of power at all is a fight that will continue to rage as long as man has social structure.
I really get sick of these tirades against religion. Religion in itself is not anyone's enemies. Sure, particular religions each have their particular faults, but so does living in any given country for example.
In addition, this grouping of all people with religious beliefs into some mass to be derided is exactly the kind of ignorant fascist stereotyping that so many geeks and nerds strugle so hard against. It's ignorant and hypocritcal.
You can not blame a religion (or anything else for that matter) for a given persons action. It's exactly the same as blaming quake for the actions of columbine shooters. And we know what road that leads down.
It's no skill of the designer. The cycle goes something like this:
Programmer(s) hack something up. I yell at him. He fixes it. It goes to testing.
hundreds of idiots fiddle over it, and make comments, sometimes insightfull, sometimes useless, but most of good use.
Management burns them and tells me what they are like.
Me and the programmer(s) sit down and and appease management to keep our jobs.
The consistancy of those other commercial GUI's comes mostly from the fact that 90% of the heavy volume applications come from the company that wrote the gui. That's good design by default, not by implementation. I have a specific comment on the macOS GUI. Specifically not aqua etc from macosX. It's intuitiveness and ease of use comes only from it's simplicity. When it comes down too it the macOS interface is essentially bland. There are a limited number of elements that do a limited number of things and interact in very limited ways. I have hope for them with aqua... but if their structure remains as rigid and their attempt at a "theme" engine is as week as they're previous attempts then they'll just have anouther bland interface that looks nice for the first few days.
You are like one of those people i knew in highschool that were all into a certain band untill all of a sudden it was popular then that band sucked because they were sell outs....
Your missing the point entirely. How about going back and reading what Linus wrote and then posting a specific criticism rather than spewing the outsiders angst.
I've been using @home for maybe 5 months now. And i'm quite happy with it.
I think that it does have alot to do with your actualy middleman provider. Mine happens to be suburban cable in north delaware.
I routinely see 250k+ downloads, and though uploading is not quite on par with that it's still outrageously faster than dialup.
Additionally, it's dirt cheap in comparison as suburban offers a huge discount if they are also your regular cable provider. I pay about 15 bucks a month for cable modem service which is tacked on to my $40 cable fee which i'd be paying anyway.
As far as service problems - I've only had one, my actual cable modem had an overheating problem that was quickly resolved with a replacement, gratis.
Pay attention to your area, your provider, etc. etc. All @home as stated earlier, is not the same. It's just like choosing a good ole pots provider -- a massive headache. But if you do your homework you can find quality highspeed service through @home.
But guess what. i've never eaten a chalupa, and there is no balogna in my house, oscar meyer or otherwise.
The idea that TV is a _cause_ of violence or even balogna consumption is utter bullshit.
If i happened to like balogna, and i was shopping for balogna, and the oscar meyer song happened to stick in my head, i might get oscar's balogna.
Guess what, i play quake too. If i ALREADY had it in my mind to go nuts one day and kill a bunch of people, i might think hey, let's use a shotgun, like in quake.
But neither the oscar meyer song, nor quake were _causes_ of what i was doing. They might concievably influence my method, but even thats unlikey because a prefer capacola, and unreal.
Movies, Television, and Radio do not put ideas in peoples heads, they only influence what people were already going to do. The assertion that playing quake (or anything else) makes people violent is just as true as wthe assertion that watching richy rich makes people wealthy.
Slashdot Mirror
I don't believe they should keep any by default, other than those pertaining directly too their localized network.
I believe that the option to have whatever type of logging is possible should lie with a given client, and that all clients should be told expressly what logs are being kept by their ISP.
One of an ISP's main responsibilites should be the privacy of their clients.
An ISP is a road that leads out too the world. Some people choose to live in gated communites where a physical log of everyone who passes through the enterence gates is kept and suspicious looking fellows are detained by a security guard. Other people buy a plot of land right next to the highway, and don't care who goes by.
-T
There is also alot of really crappy C/C++ code wandering around out there. A tool does not bad code make, only a bad programmer makes bad code.
And as such, it's still in a state where teething problems overwhelm content.
Absolutely... however, the fact that these snops are taking place during the teething period make them far more interesting. Periods of change offer far more insight and interesting data reflective on a given society than studying it's finished product ever has/will.
<i>Research carried out my both my consultancy group and others all indicate that the majority of people able to use the web are white, middle-class and certainly in higher than average tax brackets...</i>
Two comments here... First, are you throwing out the entire archive because this particular demographic is not important or something? Or maybe because it's not a politcally correct one it shouldn't be considered relevent for societal inquary? Second Throughout history, recorded history has almost always been about the more affluent classes... A dark ages serf really doesn't have the resources to commission an expose on his life. However there are long and well practiced methods of studying one class to determine how another lived. Historians aren't so ignorant that if all the information they have is on white middle class suburbia, they assume that white middle class suburbia is all that existed. Don't edit or discard information because <b>you</b> don't think it's relevent. That type of historical auditing forever cripples the studies of future generations. Additionally, enough random people for very different demographics are also up and running on the internet that alot of their information is also recorded. Historical studies unlike politcal ones (and your points are all politcal, none historical) are not an exercise polling the statistical data of the given information in order to appeal too the politcally correct, or the politcal majority at any given moment. You are being far to arrogant yourself and way undereastimating historians who haven't even been born yet.
<i>Anyway, any study that attempts to categorise how we live at the moment using the web is doomed to be prejudiced and incomplete...</i>
Any study based on any single source is always doomed to be incorrect. However, there is no absolutely correct histories anywhere, which is why there is always on-going historical study.
You take far to much upon yourself, and far too much credit from those who do this for passion and for living.
-T
There needs to be a new version of
RPM sometime soon, the RPM database
needs to be in XML.
So there.
If you are involved in the
development of any of the new
programming tools or IDE's,
you'll notice that visual studio
is closely studied. It is the
benchmark for a development
environment.
Anyone who approaches working with
visual studio with an open mind will
find that it is the most flexible
and powerful development environment
out there. you can even use your
makefiles and gnu tools with a
custom build process if you so
desire. Sure you have the
limitations of the system you
are programming on, however,
don't use that to attack the tool.
For a person who is used to
working within visual studio,
moving to a vi(m)/ or (x)emacs
development environment is
literally moving back into the
stone age.
As to changing an SDI app
into an MDI app, no you don't
have to create a new project,
Add a CMainWin class which
inherits from CMDIFrameWnd,
Migrate all your toolbars and
non-document specific menu's.
Then change your other windows
to inherit CMDIChildWnd make a
few changes in theApp class
and you have an MDI program.
Thats won't give you a complete
program though and the project
will still require a lot of
major hacking, mostly to deal with
mutiple instances of child windows
and what not.
-T
Except that NT takes just as long to boot as linux...
Unfortunately, the situation is not as simple as that... The scientists themselves are often unable to deal with their advancements, or the systems in which the advancements are made implement them in a less than wonderful way.
Humanity and technology are inseperable, and one creates the other which effects the first... claiming luddite zealotry or it's opposite serves no purpose but to infuriate everyone.
Change on the sort of level implied here is something that should happen at least as slowly as it is... Look out our history, every major technological break through has been followed by a massive human toll, in the forms of human abuse, war, pollution etc... Assuming that sufficiently advanced sience will solve these problems is infintile... as much as we've managed to solve any of these problems, the solution has come from human structures, planning, and understanding, not from a magical miracle invention that makes it all better.
Sience is a discipline, and it's offspring, technology, is a tool that is historically very powerful, and very unreliable.
New technology and it's implications have NEVER been understood before implemented by those that look to ever advancing science and technology as the new messiah... and the price has always been paid in human or environmental suffering.
If you are the first too poor your soul into a new metal body, i wish you luck. But i won't have sympathy for you when it's discovered that something wasn't put together quite right and your brain.... crashes?
-T
That's not entirly true...
They can _attempt_ to do anything they want... and that sort of restriction is something that our wonderfuly technologically knowledgable courts might not find unreasonable....
Read up a couple of posts.
The placement of the comma
has a serious legal impact
on the meaning of the sentence.
-Tilde
You're forgetting the ambigous placement
of the word _only_... which seems to imply
that is the _only_ way you can distribute it
though it could mean you can distribute it in
executible _only_ form...
What it comes down too is it's just a really really poorly written statement.
Ground to air, not air to air.
remember, Sparrow and Pheonix AAM's have been
in use since the early 80's... Tamahawk cruise
missles were designed in the 70's and most
were manufactured in the mid to late 80's... that kinda precludes G4's doncha think...
Anyway, i was specifically referring to the
fly-by-wire subsystem of the F-16, which is
infact... an 8086.
Have a nice day.
-T
Yes but thats' because they tried to pull out functionality that the chip already had.
They didn't add any functionality too the chip itself.
-T
No.... This is not what goes into a jetfigher,
at least not any of the current production
ones. The F-16 runs of what is basically
an 8086.
Hunh, whodathunk your XT could star in iron eagle XII.
Anyway, that's one of the reasons for all of the slashdot dubbed insane US export restrictions... because some of the most powerful "modern" war machines are laced together from "old" technology.
-T
A plethora of strong opinoins is what makes a contraversy.
There is a plethora of strong opinions concerning the inclusion of reiserFS, thus there is a reiserFS contraversy.
What would you rather have it called... T reiserfs strongly worded discussion, the reiserfs mild issue or some other suitibly politically correct euphamism?
To talk about 'i don't like that line about the resier fs "conttraversy"' is so inane.
-T
Lets, for the sake of argument, assume that your are infact raping the music industry when you trade "illeagle" mp3's.
Lets examine how that effects the artist. One could point out that if you have the entire cd, or, as much if it as you want, on mp3, you don't buy the cd. So what. You've just deprived the artist of *gasp* slightly less than a 1 cent. If they would sell a million records, and don't... thats a whopping 10,000 dollars. Gee, your improvishing them. The rest of the money goes to the record studios, who incidently, charge the artists for their studio time -- you know all that hard effort of writing and recording songs. Oh incidenlty, most of the (c) for those songs are held by.... GASP the record company!!! so you can't even make money on your music by performing it without rc approval.
It's the record companies themselves that consistantly rape artists, from behind, with rusty baseball bats. The proliferation of mp3 and the greatest amount of damage it could possibly do, doesn't compare with an arists interaction with their label.
I hate it when people scream 'protecting the artists' when that is complete and utter bullshit.
It's protecting the labels.
-Tilde
"I'll kill you and everyone you've ever met starting with.... Me!" and
Delphi would be a huge contribution to the community.
One of the largest things holding linux back in not tech centric companies is the lack of a RAD. Alot of services companies (insurance companies, book stores, buisness devisions of retailers etc.) will not use linux because much of their internal development requires insane fast turnarounds of pretty gui custom apps. As an example, there's an app we use that reads your login, uses it to autheticate you off a database, waits for your input then goes back to that database to pull up forms and other matching data then dynamically generates partially or completely filled out service and order forms in pdf format and feeds it back to the user for inspection and printing. This app was built from existing components in about a day by one developer using visual basic. The gui is kinda ameturish, but it's pretty and everything works as expected, sure the program is redardedly slow and you need runtime libraries but it went through its entire development cycle in less than a week.
Thats not something you can currently do on Linux. Not the app itself but the end to end development time. Tools like VB, Delphi, Centura, and Java to an extent, are vital to non-tech companies that do inhouse development.
Having Delphi on Linux would upon that market, which is far larger than the tech market, up to opensource. The exposure alone is more than worth the drawbacks.
-Tilde
Was my grammer exceptionally bad?
yes.
Was i regurgitating marxism?
Hello no.
Was in incorrect.
Not according to any comment i've read yet.
The specific monarchies i was referring too were
actually the ottoman empire, and the austro-hungarian empire, and the british empire.
The austrian empire was wracked by interanal conflict over land rights and rulership to the point where it officially changed it's name.
The ottoman empire, despite the sultancy (is that a word, i'm sure you'll correct me) was pretty much run by it's predominantly greek merchant class.
The british empire. Not on the continent? rofl.
I guess manhatten's not part of new your because it floats off the coast. Personally, i think i'll move to the state of... long island?
Anyway to get back to my point, and away from your attempt at one, remember the magna carta?
Mutter
No offense... but you really don't know what a mainframe is, what it does, or why they are used.
TERRABYTES of data pass through in mainframe every couple of hours. there are times when there are over ten thousand concurrent connections to the db2 database all doing inserts and reads, then asking for processing, then getting huge volumes of output back.
a PC cluster using ANY os, just doesn't have the I/O links, either inside the machine or too it's outside world, it just ain't there.
As to your comment about apps and what they use, you have never played with serious apps. Try
using cp to backup your harddrive to anouther one on the same bus, and set the threads priority to real time and then go and do something else.
thats a very simple example, and doesn't even come close to the type of data handling mainframes (even those from the 60's and 70's) routinely handle without a problem.
Yeesh.
-Tilde
Thats kind of a bad example. Those uh... great monarchies of continental europe had already lost almost all of their power buy that time and formally "gifting" power to the (more or less) democratic institutions that had already taken all/most of the power away from the monarchy was mostly a prosaic show to maintain the good faith of "the masses."
The specific centralization of power in a monarchy was a battle thats been raging since man instituted social structures. The centralization of power at all is a fight that will continue to rage as long as man has social structure.
-Tilde
I really get sick of these tirades against religion. Religion in itself is not anyone's enemies. Sure, particular religions each have their particular faults, but so does living in any given country for example.
In addition, this grouping of all people with religious beliefs into some mass to be derided is exactly the kind of ignorant fascist stereotyping that so many geeks and nerds strugle so hard against. It's ignorant and hypocritcal.
You can not blame a religion (or anything else for that matter) for a given persons action. It's exactly the same as blaming quake for the actions of columbine shooters. And we know what road that leads down.
-Tilde
Uh... just going out on a limb here....
but uh...
I think he was referring to himself in a
fecious manner...
1480 SAT was good enough for me.
Shruggles.
I do design UI's for a living.
And you know what?
It's no skill of the designer. The cycle goes something like this:
Programmer(s) hack something up.
I yell at him.
He fixes it.
It goes to testing.
hundreds of idiots fiddle over it, and make
comments, sometimes insightfull, sometimes
useless, but most of good use.
Management burns them and tells me
what they are like.
Me and the programmer(s) sit down and
and appease management to keep our jobs.
The consistancy of those other commercial GUI's comes mostly from the fact that 90% of the heavy volume applications come from the company that wrote the gui. That's good design by default, not by implementation. I have a specific comment on the macOS GUI. Specifically not aqua etc from macosX. It's intuitiveness and ease of use comes only from it's simplicity. When it comes down
too it the macOS interface is essentially bland. There are a limited number of elements that do a limited number of things and interact in very limited ways. I have hope for them with aqua... but if their structure remains as rigid and their attempt at a "theme" engine is as week as they're previous attempts then they'll just have anouther bland interface that looks nice for the first few days.
-T
Whoa there slow down.
You are like one of those people i knew
in highschool that were all into a certain
band untill all of a sudden it was popular
then that band sucked because they were
sell outs....
Your missing the point entirely. How about
going back and reading what Linus wrote
and then posting a specific criticism rather
than spewing the outsiders angst.
I've been using @home for maybe 5 months
now. And i'm quite happy with it.
I think that it does have alot to do with
your actualy middleman provider. Mine happens
to be suburban cable in north delaware.
I routinely see 250k+ downloads, and though
uploading is not quite on par with that
it's still outrageously faster than dialup.
Additionally, it's dirt cheap in comparison
as suburban offers a huge discount if they
are also your regular cable provider. I
pay about 15 bucks a month for cable modem
service which is tacked on to my $40 cable
fee which i'd be paying anyway.
As far as service problems - I've only had
one, my actual cable modem had an overheating
problem that was quickly resolved with
a replacement, gratis.
Pay attention to your area, your provider,
etc. etc. All @home as stated earlier, is
not the same. It's just like choosing a good
ole pots provider -- a massive headache.
But if you do your homework you can find
quality highspeed service through @home.
-T
Of course information has an effect on people.
But guess what.
i've never eaten a chalupa, and there is no
balogna in my house, oscar meyer or otherwise.
The idea that TV is a _cause_ of violence or even
balogna consumption is utter bullshit.
If i happened to like balogna, and i was
shopping for balogna, and the oscar meyer
song happened to stick in my head, i might
get oscar's balogna.
Guess what, i play quake too. If i ALREADY
had it in my mind to go nuts one day and
kill a bunch of people, i might think hey,
let's use a shotgun, like in quake.
But neither the oscar meyer song, nor quake
were _causes_ of what i was doing. They
might concievably influence my method, but
even thats unlikey because a prefer capacola,
and unreal.
Movies, Television, and Radio do not put ideas
in peoples heads, they only influence what people
were already going to do. The assertion that
playing quake (or anything else) makes people
violent is just as true as wthe assertion that
watching richy rich makes people wealthy.
I, for one, do both, and alas, am neither.
Yeesh.
-Tilde