Actually, my plan is to have a windows xp, solaris 10, some flavor of BSD and a flavor of Linux, all running (and networked). I'd like to have the linux pc acting as a PDC, although I'm not entirely sure the bsd or solaris 10 machines would be able to act as clients on the samba network (since samba emulates a windows network?). I'm not really a network guy (mostly software dev) but figure it would be a nice project and a way to learn stuff, if I'm ever collecting unemployment for any length of time.
I've got two monitor system at home and 3 pc's hooked up into a KVM switch. Only one machine gets to use the second monitor in the current setup. Even if my other machines had the video output for multiple monitors I wouldn't be able to pipe them all through the kvm switch. Can this device sit outside the kvm switch and allow all three pc's access to both (or even all three if I bought another monitor)?
If so this would definitely beat buying video cards that allow 3 monitors (or 2 monitors) for all three pcs.
I guess I should RTFA and find out.
My objection to the original post isn't based on semantic games, but on the parent poster's skipping over the important step of explaining why "man-made" behavior should be stopped. He seems to think that simply the fact that it's man-made is reason enough, but I'm not buying it. I want a better justification than that.
A valid point the original post should have explained why/how large human-managed herds of cattle is detrimental, but I think he/she was merely responding to someones sly comment that methane gas from these herds was "natural" and so global warming is "natural". And your response seemed to home in on the semantics more than anything else. It's my personal opinion that industrial farming is just as bad (maybe even worse) than other more "artificial" industries for maintaining a favorable ?balanced? environment for the health/happiness of humans.
So try on this "vision". You are a desktop company, so connect your desktops. What would really distinguish your company and provide "added-value" is to make a Xandros-Domain Controller by integrating Samba, a Directory Server (perhaps using the now open-source Redhat/Netscape DS), along with a slick admin gui. Provide support for an office running mixed Xandros and windows clients. It could be based on Linux, but it's linux-ness should be almost invisable and irrelavent.
Thats similiar to what I'm trying to setup on my home network... being a programmer and not a network admin-type this is proving to be a little painful (I'm trying to use samba on a debian machine as a PDC). Ultimately I want to be able to connect a windows xp pro, windows 2000(on vmware on the xp machine) and then a few other machines (possibly solaris 10, a BSD and if I suddenly get rich an OS X machine).
I'm wondering if a different linux distro would be easier to setup as a pdc?
Words mean whatever the speaker and audience take them to mean. The majority of people will agree that a woodland scene with deer and bunnies and a stream qualifies as a natural scene and conversely that a busy downtown street with cars is not natural.
Yes I can arbitrarily decide what words mean... everyone does it. Words are arbitrary, but if you want to communicate with the populace at large its best use them the way most people expect them to be used. Definitions change they mean what they mean to the audience and the speaker.
I already said I agree with you, man is part of the "circle of like" kumatata and all that shit. Still natural vs manmmade mean two different things in the popular colloquialism whereas you pedantically point out that anything manmade is natural.
I realize there are several definitions to the word "natural."
I agree with your sentiment, but you're just playing a semantic game. What the GP post is saying that our mass production of cattle which causes an increase in pollutants is no more natural than burning fossil fuels. She/he has a valid point. If you want to take your definition of natural to the logical extreme, it ceases to have any useful meaning. The fact of the matter is however downtown chicago is not a natural preserve, and neither is an industrial farm.
I went through k through 12 and then college. I didn't see anything that bad. I would think some places are worse than others, and your place sounds worse than others. Or maybe it's just the Baby boomers (both my parents are 5-10 years too old to be baby boomers) sounds like another reason to hate baby boomers =P
Now girls will be compelled to bore you with meaningless conversation.
oh-wait this is slashdot must make retarded qualifier here about nerds and girls.
I don't get it... would you entrust the public highways city streets etc to private corporations? I don't see why the "information highway" should be any different. The transmission lines for this information has to cross all sorts of boundaries, private and public. It should belong to the people in much the same way streets/highways do now. If someone wants to lay down a toll road, go for it if they can do it with out using eminent domain. The internet is becoming every bit as important to "free markets" as actual roads are. If neither is readily available to the public there is no free market.
http://www.wireheading.com/roboroach/index.html
Notice the date (2001), so why again are r.c. cockroaches with audio/video feeds such a stupid idea?/would think the most difficult part would be the audio/video feed
"The complaint accuses Google, as the dominant provider of Web searches, of violating KinderStart's constitutional right to free speech by blocking search engine results showing Web site content and other communications"
This is a bullshit suit. I'm sorry you don't have a constitutional right to have your message/voice broadcast/printed/served/displayed by others.
"(which BTW amounts to burping from time to time, while you're almost depicting me like a serial rapist) "
Your whole argument rests on the fact that burping is no different than serial rape. That neither is inherently worse than the other and any sort of system that judges an individual's behavior and imposes its will on you is somehow wrong, when according to your own arguments shouldn't be judged.
"Oh and you should really try to chill out. The mockery and attempted subtlety found in your post reek of repressed anger from miles away."
mmm... I love the smell of irony in the morning besides I'm probably the most "chill" person you'll talk to all day, you just wouldn't know b/c you haven't even talked to me =)
So you're an anarchist? We have a "tyranny dictated by this 'society'" its called government. All sorts of laws are derived this way, welcome to the real world.
"There's no point asking questions like 'how would you feel if X happened to you?' and trying to derive some kind of law or norm from the answer "
You couldn't be more wrong and thankfully.
" Letting everyone free to behave as they like is the only sensible way to handle (actually... *not* to handle) the situation."
Wow just wow. That sounds really nice in theory to bad it isn't that way and certainly isn't sensible. You really think people should be free to rape/murder/rob? I guess were lucky that people in society decided to "freely behave" in such a manner to create an agreement amongst themselves such as to not tolerate certain behaviors and derive laws/norms from their conceptions of "how they felt if X happened to them."
You're free (everyone is) to behave however you want, you're just not going to be free from the consequences (no one is).
"I will do what I think is ok and you can do what you think is ok. So if scientist habitually breed strange mice and kill them, or if cruel kids stomp on mice and kill them... they're free to do it. Maybe I won't do the same, maybe I will."
Thats pedantic and obvious. The question is do you feel the same about both situations? and does society? It doesn't, which is why one is legal and the other isn't. Do you feel the same if oh say your mother was raped by a stranger as you would about your father having sex with your mom, or possibly your mother having sex with strangers at a truckstop? What I am and was trying to express was their is a whole range. And that the GGP post was missing out on that completely.
What color is the sky in your world? Black or white?
Really, when Cthulhu comes to swallow your soul and the only thing you can do is contort your face in terror and scream like a helpless girl, I hope you remember you have no rights.
An animal is no more an "object" than a person is an "object." You lack any sort of scale, or sense of insight. Some animals exhibit more altruistic behaviors than your post does. Moral absolutism like yours is not the only way. I can decry stepping on mice for nothing more than relieving stress as unethical and still feel its ok for a cat (or desparate human) to kill one to eat it. There's a whole "scale" truly unethical to mildly unethical to thats ok, to thats a really good thing to do.
Animals do exhibit sentient behaviors on a varying scale (just like people do) it's loosely proportional to the size complexity of its brain, but its there. Have you never read any Douglas Adams or any Lovecraft or any thing that has caused your imagination wonder for a moment what if? Have you ever even questioned your own beliefs?
I agree completely, I own the movie (watched it as a child in the theatre, watched it in college as a... um yeah) and now watch it for nostalgia. I just don't see a reason for a sequel, I think prequel might be interesting.
And I also want to add, watching it w/o the sound while listening to Shpongle's Are you Shpongled? is a rather interesting experience.
Are you just trolling? Appearently, you don't understand how evolution works... you don't evolve "powers." Random mutations are selected for or against. You say why then and not now... it still happens, its just not like going to the store to buy coffee, most evolution occurs on a timescale that would not be possible to view in your lifetime. We haven't "evolved with the thought of..." anything. Our appreciation of music, art and beauty are not unique. Dolphins blow bubbles of rings and swim through them and create them for eachother. Whales, birds, frogs, insects all make music. One could argue its not made for the sake of enjoyment but for reproduction, marking territory, etc, I would argue human music is made for the same reasons. Music is often used extensively in courtships and AFAIK every nation has its anthem.
"Animal don't sit and stare and enjoy only humans."
Never shared a window sill with a cat eh?
I'd like to add who says the UAV's don't have pilots? I'm fairly certain its possible to pilot the predator drones we have now from halfway across the world. Given a simple enough interface training would be minimal err I mean to say we've already been training our little boys (aw heck girls too its not real combat! if it is happening thousands of miles away) to pilot these things since they were old enough to hold an arcade controller. Heck you could have one person pilot, another navigate and several others operate the weapons/targetting all assisted by auto-pilot/targeting etc.
You know... I keep hearing that, but I wouldn't know. I'm not about to shell out my own personal money for an IDE when free ones are abundant (and I'm familiar with them). I have a hard time talking management into spending money on an IDE that I've never used when there are free ones that I'm familiar with all around. I went on one job interview where the interviewer showed me some of their stuff, the used IntelliJ so I finally saw it in action. Looked like most other IDE's except somehow the developer had broken the code completion aspect (he didn't know how). I wasn't impressed... I'm sure thats largely impart to the user, and my limited experience, but I still can't talk anyone into buying it for me.
Well for a large part of my last developement project I used nb 3.6 and used Java 5. I avoided most of the new language features b/c nb wouldn't recognize the syntax but as long as you go in and change the compiler you can compile your Java 5 code in NB 3.6. I upgraded to 4.1 and like it a lot better, I had absolutely no problems importing the source libraries/projects but it was a j2se app.
I've often wondered the same thing why.NET? At my job I'm being pushed to develop my next project in.NET (VB no less, sigh even though the "advantage" of.NET is you pick your language right?). Well I haven't used VS since in 4-5 years so I'm watching all the beginner lesson on the msdn site. And I think I know the why the push for.NET the IDE/platform makes creating web apps brain-dead so brain dead the boss's son and his highschoo/college friends can produce reasonably professionally looking products in short amount of time. There is a trade off however. The end result is probably not very maintainable (no documentation, no real design or the coders don't understand the design) and forget about documentation (hell why would they document stuff they didn't even really write). Ok maybe I'm just a little bitter. Still I guess it will ad more marketability to my resume.
Download the Express editions of visual XXX.NET and then go watch the streaming multi-media lessons.
http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/express/vwd/lear ning/default.aspx
If you've done any real programming it seems fairly straight forward and the express software is similiar enough to the real stuff. The beginning lessons do a fairly decent job of showing you how to use the IDE which I think is probably just as tricky (if not trickier) than learning a new syntax.
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Actually, my plan is to have a windows xp, solaris 10, some flavor of BSD and a flavor of Linux, all running (and networked). I'd like to have the linux pc acting as a PDC, although I'm not entirely sure the bsd or solaris 10 machines would be able to act as clients on the samba network (since samba emulates a windows network?). I'm not really a network guy (mostly software dev) but figure it would be a nice project and a way to learn stuff, if I'm ever collecting unemployment for any length of time.
I've got two monitor system at home and 3 pc's hooked up into a KVM switch. Only one machine gets to use the second monitor in the current setup. Even if my other machines had the video output for multiple monitors I wouldn't be able to pipe them all through the kvm switch. Can this device sit outside the kvm switch and allow all three pc's access to both (or even all three if I bought another monitor)? If so this would definitely beat buying video cards that allow 3 monitors (or 2 monitors) for all three pcs. I guess I should RTFA and find out.
My objection to the original post isn't based on semantic games, but on the parent poster's skipping over the important step of explaining why "man-made" behavior should be stopped. He seems to think that simply the fact that it's man-made is reason enough, but I'm not buying it. I want a better justification than that. A valid point the original post should have explained why/how large human-managed herds of cattle is detrimental, but I think he/she was merely responding to someones sly comment that methane gas from these herds was "natural" and so global warming is "natural". And your response seemed to home in on the semantics more than anything else. It's my personal opinion that industrial farming is just as bad (maybe even worse) than other more "artificial" industries for maintaining a favorable ?balanced? environment for the health/happiness of humans.
So try on this "vision". You are a desktop company, so connect your desktops. What would really distinguish your company and provide "added-value" is to make a Xandros-Domain Controller by integrating Samba, a Directory Server (perhaps using the now open-source Redhat/Netscape DS), along with a slick admin gui. Provide support for an office running mixed Xandros and windows clients. It could be based on Linux, but it's linux-ness should be almost invisable and irrelavent. Thats similiar to what I'm trying to setup on my home network... being a programmer and not a network admin-type this is proving to be a little painful (I'm trying to use samba on a debian machine as a PDC). Ultimately I want to be able to connect a windows xp pro, windows 2000(on vmware on the xp machine) and then a few other machines (possibly solaris 10, a BSD and if I suddenly get rich an OS X machine). I'm wondering if a different linux distro would be easier to setup as a pdc?
Words mean whatever the speaker and audience take them to mean. The majority of people will agree that a woodland scene with deer and bunnies and a stream qualifies as a natural scene and conversely that a busy downtown street with cars is not natural.
Yes I can arbitrarily decide what words mean... everyone does it. Words are arbitrary, but if you want to communicate with the populace at large its best use them the way most people expect them to be used. Definitions change they mean what they mean to the audience and the speaker.
I already said I agree with you, man is part of the "circle of like" kumatata and all that shit. Still natural vs manmmade mean two different things in the popular colloquialism whereas you pedantically point out that anything manmade is natural.
I realize there are several definitions to the word "natural."
You're playing semantic games, and it doesn't really add anything useful to the discussion.
I agree with your sentiment, but you're just playing a semantic game. What the GP post is saying that our mass production of cattle which causes an increase in pollutants is no more natural than burning fossil fuels. She/he has a valid point. If you want to take your definition of natural to the logical extreme, it ceases to have any useful meaning. The fact of the matter is however downtown chicago is not a natural preserve, and neither is an industrial farm.
I went through k through 12 and then college. I didn't see anything that bad. I would think some places are worse than others, and your place sounds worse than others. Or maybe it's just the Baby boomers (both my parents are 5-10 years too old to be baby boomers) sounds like another reason to hate baby boomers =P
Maybe you should move? Everywhere can be pretty rough, but I certainly wouldn't want to raise children in the environment you're describing.
Now girls will be compelled to bore you with meaningless conversation. oh-wait this is slashdot must make retarded qualifier here about nerds and girls.
I don't get it... would you entrust the public highways city streets etc to private corporations? I don't see why the "information highway" should be any different. The transmission lines for this information has to cross all sorts of boundaries, private and public. It should belong to the people in much the same way streets/highways do now. If someone wants to lay down a toll road, go for it if they can do it with out using eminent domain. The internet is becoming every bit as important to "free markets" as actual roads are. If neither is readily available to the public there is no free market.
http://www.wireheading.com/roboroach/index.html Notice the date (2001), so why again are r.c. cockroaches with audio/video feeds such a stupid idea? /would think the most difficult part would be the audio/video feed
"The complaint accuses Google, as the dominant provider of Web searches, of violating KinderStart's constitutional right to free speech by blocking search engine results showing Web site content and other communications"
This is a bullshit suit. I'm sorry you don't have a constitutional right to have your message/voice broadcast/printed/served/displayed by others.
From TFA:
"aggressively defends the secrecy of its patented search ranking system"
Is it patented or secret? I mean it can't be both.
"(which BTW amounts to burping from time to time, while you're almost depicting me like a serial rapist) " Your whole argument rests on the fact that burping is no different than serial rape. That neither is inherently worse than the other and any sort of system that judges an individual's behavior and imposes its will on you is somehow wrong, when according to your own arguments shouldn't be judged. "Oh and you should really try to chill out. The mockery and attempted subtlety found in your post reek of repressed anger from miles away." mmm... I love the smell of irony in the morning besides I'm probably the most "chill" person you'll talk to all day, you just wouldn't know b/c you haven't even talked to me =)
So you're an anarchist? We have a "tyranny dictated by this 'society'" its called government. All sorts of laws are derived this way, welcome to the real world. "There's no point asking questions like 'how would you feel if X happened to you?' and trying to derive some kind of law or norm from the answer " You couldn't be more wrong and thankfully. " Letting everyone free to behave as they like is the only sensible way to handle (actually... *not* to handle) the situation." Wow just wow. That sounds really nice in theory to bad it isn't that way and certainly isn't sensible. You really think people should be free to rape/murder/rob? I guess were lucky that people in society decided to "freely behave" in such a manner to create an agreement amongst themselves such as to not tolerate certain behaviors and derive laws/norms from their conceptions of "how they felt if X happened to them." You're free (everyone is) to behave however you want, you're just not going to be free from the consequences (no one is).
"I will do what I think is ok and you can do what you think is ok. So if scientist habitually breed strange mice and kill them, or if cruel kids stomp on mice and kill them... they're free to do it. Maybe I won't do the same, maybe I will." Thats pedantic and obvious. The question is do you feel the same about both situations? and does society? It doesn't, which is why one is legal and the other isn't. Do you feel the same if oh say your mother was raped by a stranger as you would about your father having sex with your mom, or possibly your mother having sex with strangers at a truckstop? What I am and was trying to express was their is a whole range. And that the GGP post was missing out on that completely.
What color is the sky in your world? Black or white?
Really, when Cthulhu comes to swallow your soul and the only thing you can do is contort your face in terror and scream like a helpless girl, I hope you remember you have no rights.
An animal is no more an "object" than a person is an "object." You lack any sort of scale, or sense of insight. Some animals exhibit more altruistic behaviors than your post does. Moral absolutism like yours is not the only way. I can decry stepping on mice for nothing more than relieving stress as unethical and still feel its ok for a cat (or desparate human) to kill one to eat it. There's a whole "scale" truly unethical to mildly unethical to thats ok, to thats a really good thing to do. Animals do exhibit sentient behaviors on a varying scale (just like people do) it's loosely proportional to the size complexity of its brain, but its there. Have you never read any Douglas Adams or any Lovecraft or any thing that has caused your imagination wonder for a moment what if? Have you ever even questioned your own beliefs?
I agree completely, I own the movie (watched it as a child in the theatre, watched it in college as a ... um yeah) and now watch it for nostalgia. I just don't see a reason for a sequel, I think prequel might be interesting.
And I also want to add, watching it w/o the sound while listening to Shpongle's Are you Shpongled? is a rather interesting experience.
Are you just trolling? Appearently, you don't understand how evolution works... you don't evolve "powers." Random mutations are selected for or against. You say why then and not now... it still happens, its just not like going to the store to buy coffee, most evolution occurs on a timescale that would not be possible to view in your lifetime. We haven't "evolved with the thought of..." anything. Our appreciation of music, art and beauty are not unique. Dolphins blow bubbles of rings and swim through them and create them for eachother. Whales, birds, frogs, insects all make music. One could argue its not made for the sake of enjoyment but for reproduction, marking territory, etc, I would argue human music is made for the same reasons. Music is often used extensively in courtships and AFAIK every nation has its anthem. "Animal don't sit and stare and enjoy only humans." Never shared a window sill with a cat eh?
I'd like to add who says the UAV's don't have pilots? I'm fairly certain its possible to pilot the predator drones we have now from halfway across the world. Given a simple enough interface training would be minimal err I mean to say we've already been training our little boys (aw heck girls too its not real combat! if it is happening thousands of miles away) to pilot these things since they were old enough to hold an arcade controller. Heck you could have one person pilot, another navigate and several others operate the weapons/targetting all assisted by auto-pilot/targeting etc.
You know... I keep hearing that, but I wouldn't know. I'm not about to shell out my own personal money for an IDE when free ones are abundant (and I'm familiar with them). I have a hard time talking management into spending money on an IDE that I've never used when there are free ones that I'm familiar with all around. I went on one job interview where the interviewer showed me some of their stuff, the used IntelliJ so I finally saw it in action. Looked like most other IDE's except somehow the developer had broken the code completion aspect (he didn't know how). I wasn't impressed... I'm sure thats largely impart to the user, and my limited experience, but I still can't talk anyone into buying it for me.
Well for a large part of my last developement project I used nb 3.6 and used Java 5. I avoided most of the new language features b/c nb wouldn't recognize the syntax but as long as you go in and change the compiler you can compile your Java 5 code in NB 3.6. I upgraded to 4.1 and like it a lot better, I had absolutely no problems importing the source libraries/projects but it was a j2se app.
I've often wondered the same thing why .NET? At my job I'm being pushed to develop my next project in .NET (VB no less, sigh even though the "advantage" of .NET is you pick your language right?). Well I haven't used VS since in 4-5 years so I'm watching all the beginner lesson on the msdn site. And I think I know the why the push for .NET the IDE/platform makes creating web apps brain-dead so brain dead the boss's son and his highschoo/college friends can produce reasonably professionally looking products in short amount of time. There is a trade off however. The end result is probably not very maintainable (no documentation, no real design or the coders don't understand the design) and forget about documentation (hell why would they document stuff they didn't even really write). Ok maybe I'm just a little bitter. Still I guess it will ad more marketability to my resume.
Download the Express editions of visual XXX.NET and then go watch the streaming multi-media lessons. http://msdn.microsoft.com/vstudio/express/vwd/lear ning/default.aspx
If you've done any real programming it seems fairly straight forward and the express software is similiar enough to the real stuff. The beginning lessons do a fairly decent job of showing you how to use the IDE which I think is probably just as tricky (if not trickier) than learning a new syntax.