The concept of increasing Failure rate only applies to companies htat has the resources to do this.
Companies like Intel, HP etc can make blunder after blunder but still come out on top as they have the resources to "wait" for the winner, and more importantly put a lot of resources behind the winner once invented.
Take Intel's Itanic, or the 860 this would have sunk any company but the very large. Intel's Yamhill is waiting in the wing in case The Custoenmrs want it How may companies can do that.
The Venture Capital stragegy centers around this Throw Mud on the wall and see what sticks and should more rightly be seen as Outsourced R&D that business start-up. FYI, More Start-ups get absorbed pre IPO than go public.
The interesting point about the semiconductor market that makes it different from almost anything else is that it pay's to drive down the price as your cost decreases.
The reason being that the market thereby grows at a much faster rate, more than compensating the price drop. Remember Profit in $ is Unit profit * Unit.
Just look at Cell Phones as a good recent example.
Industries has repeatedly learned that artificially holding the price high kills you. If interested in more info Google Clayton Christenson + Disruptive technologies.
Anyone remember MIT's Jay Forester's Limits to Growth issued by the Club of Rome?
Well they were wrong in the sense that what they predicted didn't happen. Or were they?
Well one reason that their prediction didn't pan out was that some of the behaviour / parameters changed due to the political impact of the book and the debate that followed. Same with Carson's Silent Spring.
Now back to current debate. Given the latency in the system, the risk if indeed the Greenhouse effect is real and can run amok, what would a rational person recommend?
1. The damage done to Linux will not come from any court ruling even if unfavorably, so it needs to be countered on the battle field of public opinion.
2. The court case is against IBM and notably on some contractual issues. Again public opinion equates the two but this is wrong. IBM could lose and Linux could be unharmed in theory.
3. Groklaw and to a lesser degree Slashdot is part of an experiment. OpenSource lawsuit. The methodology of OpenSource is being used against SCO.
The debunking of anything SCO claims in hours after they make it public or file it in court is something that is new and will be lethal to SCO in the end.
Hi, This is an excellent analogy. Post it over at Groklaw as the IBM lawyers looks at that.
Analogies are important, as an example when IBM presented their case for discovery here in early december, they printed a HUGE book with thousand of pages and a little book with way fewer.
They then told the judge that SCO tells us that there is some code in here Pointing to the Big book, but will not tell us where it is.
The point of computing is to solve problems, once your problem is solved move on.
Even if I agreed with you, which I do not, you are wrong even on your own premisses.
Problems can be solved in two ways. A point solution and a general solution.
Point solutions as you advocate tend to created further problems down the line so they are sub-optimal when looked at in a larger context.
Since you seem to value the Eco-system comparison, your suggested point solution is like the Koala Bear only being able to eat Eucalyptus leaves.
Not a good idea when the eucalyptus plant is disappearing. Compare this to a Rat that eats anything. FOOS development process secures that mostly Rats is being created not pretty and cuddly proprietary Koalas.
Incorrect. A little thinking would reveal that one is always free to chose a distro with KDE support, such as KNOPPIX.
I know I am responding to an AC so a bit pointless, but the issue at hand is what to do with UserLinux, so mentioning another distributions merits does not make sense for this debate.
Your point is akin to responding to a debate over whether to include Wine in UserLinux with You can always use Windows XP Yes we know this, but does that mean we should include Wine or not?
You make an excellent point. Assuming some Darwinian development pressures at play on Operation Systems, we need a high degree of Chaos or Entropy in the system in order to have rapid development.
In Kurzweils excellent book Age of Spiritual Machines he is referencing some computer experiments on developments of Artificial "Lifeforms".
One of the unexpected things the researchers found (can't remember who it was) was that increasing the "Mutation rate" was not enough. You needed a complex and rapid changing Ecosystem.
OS's that finds it way into new application areas provides presicely such an Ecosystem that the dominant OS might later adapt to.
As an axample we can look at embedded devices. The pressure from Symbian in the Smartphone market causes Linux and Windows for that matter to change and adapt. The adaption does not need to be Monolithic as is the case with Windows but an OS bifurcation is fine and actually more akin to the real world evolution. In that sense OpenBeOS can be a real plus to everyone. User or not
So why wouldn't you want credit for the work to go to the Mozilla group? Would anybody really want the situation where Microsoft are falsely credited with that amount of work?
I was just thinking if people would notice and if they did see something new, what to say so they would not realize that they were using a new browser
Sure I would want Mozilla to get the credit, I was just thinking out loud.
I have found that a good way to show off Mozilla is to use some of the XUL applications. Joe and Jane are really impressed when you play Solitaire in your browser.
I agree. I use a little trick to get books cheap. Use Amazon Wishlist and wait.
When I hear or read about a new book I think might be of interest I just add it to my wishlist. Then once a month I review my list and see what the Used / Almost New price has dropped to.
Just Got Digital Biology published in Jan 2001 for $3 rather than the original $25.
Slashdot Mirror
Check the In the News section . Good source for background info when something happens around the world.
Companies like Intel, HP etc can make blunder after blunder but still come out on top as they have the resources to "wait" for the winner, and more importantly put a lot of resources behind the winner once invented.
Take Intel's Itanic, or the 860 this would have sunk any company but the very large. Intel's Yamhill is waiting in the wing in case The Custoenmrs want it How may companies can do that.
The Venture Capital stragegy centers around this Throw Mud on the wall and see what sticks and should more rightly be seen as Outsourced R&D that business start-up. FYI, More Start-ups get absorbed pre IPO than go public.
You do not have to use Linux to appreciate Vorbis;-)
Yes, It's called Eggn'Ogg
The interesting point about the semiconductor market that makes it different from almost anything else is that it pay's to drive down the price as your cost decreases.
The reason being that the market thereby grows at a much faster rate, more than compensating the price drop. Remember Profit in $ is Unit profit * Unit.
Just look at Cell Phones as a good recent example. Industries has repeatedly learned that artificially holding the price high kills you. If interested in more info Google Clayton Christenson + Disruptive technologies.
Well they were wrong in the sense that what they predicted didn't happen. Or were they?
Well one reason that their prediction didn't pan out was that some of the behaviour / parameters changed due to the political impact of the book and the debate that followed. Same with Carson's Silent Spring.
Now back to current debate. Given the latency in the system, the risk if indeed the Greenhouse effect is real and can run amok, what would a rational person recommend?
Look Here for Strained Silicon Secret.
Mythic: you should have been more original if you wanted something protectable.
Verdict goes to the defendant.
Yes let's remember this when the Court case filed by Microsoft against Lindows will be decided. The name Windows is stunningly original ;-)
Mythic can use every argument MS brings about against Lindows.
2. The court case is against IBM and notably on some contractual issues. Again public opinion equates the two but this is wrong. IBM could lose and Linux could be unharmed in theory.
3. Groklaw and to a lesser degree Slashdot is part of an experiment. OpenSource lawsuit. The methodology of OpenSource is being used against SCO.
The debunking of anything SCO claims in hours after they make it public or file it in court is something that is new and will be lethal to SCO in the end.
Conclusion:
Quote: In other words, I think we can totally _demolish_ the SCO claim that these 65 files were somehow "copied". They clearly are not.
Analogies are important, as an example when IBM presented their case for discovery here in early december, they printed a HUGE book with thousand of pages and a little book with way fewer.
They then told the judge that SCO tells us that there is some code in here Pointing to the Big book, but will not tell us where it is.
Your analogy might play well with a Jury as well.
Even if I agreed with you, which I do not, you are wrong even on your own premisses.
Problems can be solved in two ways. A point solution and a general solution.
Point solutions as you advocate tend to created further problems down the line so they are sub-optimal when looked at in a larger context.
Since you seem to value the Eco-system comparison, your suggested point solution is like the Koala Bear only being able to eat Eucalyptus leaves.
Not a good idea when the eucalyptus plant is disappearing. Compare this to a Rat that eats anything. FOOS development process secures that mostly Rats is being created not pretty and cuddly proprietary Koalas.
I know I am responding to an AC so a bit pointless, but the issue at hand is what to do with UserLinux, so mentioning another distributions merits does not make sense for this debate.
Your point is akin to responding to a debate over whether to include Wine in UserLinux with You can always use Windows XP Yes we know this, but does that mean we should include Wine or not?
If you bothered to read the context of the discussion this is considered a negative in this case.
The stock FOOS arguments does not allways play even in Slashdot, sometime a little thinking is required.
In Kurzweils excellent book Age of Spiritual Machines he is referencing some computer experiments on developments of Artificial "Lifeforms".
One of the unexpected things the researchers found (can't remember who it was) was that increasing the "Mutation rate" was not enough. You needed a complex and rapid changing Ecosystem.
OS's that finds it way into new application areas provides presicely such an Ecosystem that the dominant OS might later adapt to.
As an axample we can look at embedded devices. The pressure from Symbian in the Smartphone market causes Linux and Windows for that matter to change and adapt. The adaption does not need to be Monolithic as is the case with Windows but an OS bifurcation is fine and actually more akin to the real world evolution. In that sense OpenBeOS can be a real plus to everyone. User or not
Well, Your point is well taken
It makes the point you are making and points to how Democrats and notably Dean could seize this winnable Issue
Darl, Put a sock in it!
I was just thinking if people would notice and if they did see something new, what to say so they would not realize that they were using a new browser
Sure I would want Mozilla to get the credit, I was just thinking out loud.
I have found that a good way to show off Mozilla is to use some of the XUL applications. Joe and Jane are really impressed when you play Solitaire in your browser.
I bet if you included the IE theme less than 25% would ever notice.
The Extras like Tabbed Browsing and Pop-up blocking would just be normal MicroSoft Innovations TM
I tried to edit the Knoppix ISO here a few weeks ago but it didn't work.
Suggestions please!
Almost everyone is aware of this, and it is that very fact that makes it so silly that Linux is considered a Munition and on the ban list.
Read the Letter Silicon Valley Linux USer Group put together to the DOD.
Unbelievable, but apparently true
Pathscale by former SGI'er does just that.
When I hear or read about a new book I think might be of interest I just add it to my wishlist. Then once a month I review my list and see what the Used / Almost New price has dropped to. Just Got Digital Biology published in Jan 2001 for $3 rather than the original $25.