He wasn't that interested in Firewire becuase it was something that only went in Camcorders.
At the time it pretty much was.
It is the job of anyone that introduces a new technology to write the drivers for linux and other OS' and make a compelling case for why it should be included.
I saw an interesting posting on some of the Stock boards yesterday. The people were wondering why their shares went up $2.3 or so on VERY heavy volume. 360K if I rember.
Considering there is 12.6Mu shares outstanding and 40% directly owned by Canopy and 20% indirectly, yesterdays volume is 8% or so of "normal" outstanding tradebable shares.
So question arrises WHO IS BUYING especilly after the code snippet flap earlier in the week.
Consensus, most likely MS' investment arm.
It's the quid pro quo for SCO committing legal suicide.
MS stole an idea from ICQ (bought by AOL later) and tried to muscle in on something that would have functioned perfectly without them.
What did they add that we didn't have from ICQ/ AOL?
Now they think ther are big enough to go it alone using it's Windows monopoly to "Reduce choice"
It's like the phone companies after the break-up of Bell suddenly decided not to allow other carries on their turf. Back to the good old day where you had multiple phones in the house depending on carrier. It did happen (mostly in Europe I believe)
There are three pieces of good news for SCO about the evidence they revealed on 18 August 2003. One is that the evidence does support a claim of code-copying; the second is that GPL is not in this case a usable defense; and the third is that BSD probably doesn't save us either. But the rest of the news is all bad for SCO: most of the supposedly infringing code was (a) released as open source by SCO/Caldera in 2002, (b) didn't come through IBM or Sequent, (c) isn't present in 90% of all running Linux distributions, and (d) was removed from Linux 2.5 in June 2003 on grounds of being too ugly to live. If this is representative of the quality of SCO's evidence, their case is dead on arrival.
This is somewhat good as this will make it much harder for SCO to touch the GPL.
They have Dirty Hands in the eyes of a judge and will have a hard time arguing against GPL (In addition to all the other comments about GPL mentioned umpteen times at/.)
Does not matter what any judge states anywhere. Any code deemed to be infringing will be rewritten and life will go on.
RH, SuSE, IBM can die but not Linux as such.
If you have contributed code to Linux kernel file a suit in small claims court. Little ant bites like this multiplied all over the world will bring SCO down faster than any major legal attack.
Interview today. I have posted the interview here rather than make a link to CRN as they are sponsoring SCOForum and do not deserve the Hits.
SCO CEO Darl McBride met Monday with CRN
senior editor Paula Rooney to talk about the company's Unix crusade and
product plans. The interview took place at the SCO Forum 2003 in Las
Vegas. CRN is a sponsor of the conference.
CRN:
SCO attorneys say if there is no settlement, a trial would begin in
April 2005 and last roughly five weeks. Following that, there could be
appeals. Is there any chance SCO can expedite this case to free up
customers, partners and vendors so that the Linux industry doesn't get
hurt?
McBride:
We tried to move this along, but IBM kept asking for delays. Now with
the counterclaim and patent infringement, it could go even longer. IBM
can put this on a slow track [with additional legal moves]. But IBM
might be throwing hard balls to [get ready] for the soft pitch [to
settle].
CRN:
Why do you say that? What's happening behind the scenes? Might this
case be resolved quietly, rather than become the intellectual property
[IP] case of the century?
McBride:
They're putting this on a [slow, legal] path. But customers have been
putting pressure on IBM to get this resolved. This is not a case IBM
can get knocked out on -they'd be filing motions to dismiss the case
[if they thought they could win]. Our case is up to $3 billion- they'd
have to come up from a few hundred million dollars to settle. Every
month, we keep finding more and more [Linux code that violates out Unix
System contract]. We'd want a settlement and royalty [on Linux] going
forward.
CRN:
Have you met with Linus Torvalds yet, especially since he has become an
OSDL fellow? What is your assessment of the open source community
activities?
McBride:
I've talked to him via e-mail. He's very pragmatic and tends to be a
racehorse with blinders on..he doesn't want to know about IP or
[commercial issues] He readily admits that IBM has put a lot of code in
Linux and says if you want to pursue it ]legally], go ahead. But I said
to him, 'I appreciate you didn't create the problem, but you have
inherited it. But he won't sign an NDA. There's a lot of discussion
going on at the OSDL, IBM and open source community they're working
though.
CRN:
Many in the open source community are upset about the impact of this
case on the Linux industry. Open source guru Eric Raymond-among many
others - say they are respectful about IP issues but they are
challenging SCO to specify exactly which code it believes to be
infringing, by file and by line number, and on what ground it is
infringing.
Raymund
says the open source community is not willing to sit idly by while SCO
asserts proprietary control, and the right to collect license fees,
over the entirety of Linux. What do you say to that? Why doesn't SCO
just leave Linux customers, partners and developers alone and out of
its dispute with IBM?
McBride:
That's like if someone comes into your house while you're sleeping,
takes your jewels, and as you start chasing them down [to retrieve your
property], and now they want to say you're the one doing the bad thing.
I have to read [Eric Raymond's letter] and am meeting with [The Linux
Show's]Jeff Gerhardt on it later.
CRN:
SCO shares, as you mentioned during your keynote, have soared from less
than a $1 to over $10 since you took the reigns and since the case
began. There have been some reports of SCO executives recently trading
shares. This casts some doubt in the minds of some about the integrity
of SCO's allegations against IBM.
McBride:
I personally haven't sold any shares. [laughter]Look, Red Hat
executives have sold over 500,000 shares just since January. [Other SCO
execs sold shares to offset tax losses but does not know more than
that.
"Doesn't the 32 bit compatibility need a reboot to use, then another reboot back to 64?"
On a serious note since it's based on LinuxBIOS they have a system where you can launch another Kernel without taking the system down. It is quite clever and you can optimize alternative kernels for the program you are running, incl 32 vs 64 bit.
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At the time it pretty much was.
It is the job of anyone that introduces a new technology to write the drivers for linux and other OS' and make a compelling case for why it should be included.
Considering there is 12.6Mu shares outstanding and 40% directly owned by Canopy and 20% indirectly, yesterdays volume is 8% or so of "normal" outstanding tradebable shares.
So question arrises WHO IS BUYING especilly after the code snippet flap earlier in the week.
Consensus, most likely MS' investment arm.
It's the quid pro quo for SCO committing legal suicide.
Java Anonymous Proxy was backdoored by Court order. Here is a link.
MS stole an idea from ICQ (bought by AOL later) and tried to muscle in on something that would have functioned perfectly without them.
What did they add that we didn't have from ICQ/ AOL?
Now they think ther are big enough to go it alone using it's Windows monopoly to "Reduce choice"
It's like the phone companies after the break-up of Bell suddenly decided not to allow other carries on their turf. Back to the good old day where you had multiple phones in the house depending on carrier. It did happen (mostly in Europe I believe)
Executive summary:
There are three pieces of good news for SCO about the evidence they revealed on 18 August 2003. One is that the evidence does support a claim of code-copying; the second is that GPL is not in this case a usable defense; and the third is that BSD probably doesn't save us either. But the rest of the news is all bad for SCO: most of the supposedly infringing code was (a) released as open source by SCO/Caldera in 2002, (b) didn't come through IBM or Sequent, (c) isn't present in 90% of all running Linux distributions, and (d) was removed from Linux 2.5 in June 2003 on grounds of being too ugly to live. If this is representative of the quality of SCO's evidence, their case is dead on arrival.
Funny Sorry I do not have mod points.
OT
By the way go get the new Athlon64 movie from AMD and watch while you are getting Matrix trailer
It is called adding insult to injury FYI
Guess what happened!
Jokes aside the idiots buying SCOX are more likely to visit Yahoo boards and the like.
When I run out of SCO stuff here I go to Yahoo for daily dose of Vitriol.. Very entertaining
They have Dirty Hands in the eyes of a judge and will have a hard time arguing against GPL (In addition to all the other comments about GPL mentioned umpteen times at /.)
I only avoid movies where they use another finger.
Does not matter what any judge states anywhere. Any code deemed to be infringing will be rewritten and life will go on.
RH, SuSE, IBM can die but not Linux as such.
If you have contributed code to Linux kernel file a suit in small claims court. Little ant bites like this multiplied all over the world will bring SCO down faster than any major legal attack.
as in "you're Anal Retentive"
This adds to the damages that RedHat can claim. Trick or not they are harming Redhat by stating something that is a lie.
Think about the RedHat suit, They are suing for damages to their business.
Lying at a public forum knowing this will boost your share price at the expense of the credibility of a competitor is Bad News.
Any jury (remember this is in Federal court not in the Mormon hinterland) will award damages.
Boies himself skipped the SCOForum despite being on the Agenda.
SCO CEO Darl McBride met Monday with CRN senior editor Paula Rooney to talk about the company's Unix crusade and product plans. The interview took place at the SCO Forum 2003 in Las Vegas. CRN is a sponsor of the conference.
CRN: SCO attorneys say if there is no settlement, a trial would begin in April 2005 and last roughly five weeks. Following that, there could be appeals. Is there any chance SCO can expedite this case to free up customers, partners and vendors so that the Linux industry doesn't get hurt?
McBride: We tried to move this along, but IBM kept asking for delays. Now with the counterclaim and patent infringement, it could go even longer. IBM can put this on a slow track [with additional legal moves]. But IBM might be throwing hard balls to [get ready] for the soft pitch [to settle].
CRN: Why do you say that? What's happening behind the scenes? Might this case be resolved quietly, rather than become the intellectual property [IP] case of the century?
McBride: They're putting this on a [slow, legal] path. But customers have been putting pressure on IBM to get this resolved. This is not a case IBM can get knocked out on -they'd be filing motions to dismiss the case [if they thought they could win]. Our case is up to $3 billion- they'd have to come up from a few hundred million dollars to settle. Every month, we keep finding more and more [Linux code that violates out Unix System contract]. We'd want a settlement and royalty [on Linux] going forward.
CRN: Have you met with Linus Torvalds yet, especially since he has become an OSDL fellow? What is your assessment of the open source community activities?
McBride: I've talked to him via e-mail. He's very pragmatic and tends to be a racehorse with blinders on ..he doesn't want to know about IP or
[commercial issues] He readily admits that IBM has put a lot of code in
Linux and says if you want to pursue it ]legally], go ahead. But I said
to him, 'I appreciate you didn't create the problem, but you have
inherited it. But he won't sign an NDA. There's a lot of discussion
going on at the OSDL, IBM and open source community they're working
though.
CRN: Many in the open source community are upset about the impact of this case on the Linux industry. Open source guru Eric Raymond-among many others - say they are respectful about IP issues but they are challenging SCO to specify exactly which code it believes to be infringing, by file and by line number, and on what ground it is infringing.
Raymund says the open source community is not willing to sit idly by while SCO asserts proprietary control, and the right to collect license fees, over the entirety of Linux. What do you say to that? Why doesn't SCO just leave Linux customers, partners and developers alone and out of its dispute with IBM?
McBride: That's like if someone comes into your house while you're sleeping, takes your jewels, and as you start chasing them down [to retrieve your property], and now they want to say you're the one doing the bad thing. I have to read [Eric Raymond's letter] and am meeting with [The Linux Show's]Jeff Gerhardt on it later.
CRN: SCO shares, as you mentioned during your keynote, have soared from less than a $1 to over $10 since you took the reigns and since the case began. There have been some reports of SCO executives recently trading shares. This casts some doubt in the minds of some about the integrity of SCO's allegations against IBM.
McBride: I personally haven't sold any shares. [laughter]Look, Red Hat executives have sold over 500,000 shares just since January. [Other SCO execs sold shares to offset tax losses but does not know more than that.
If you get CRN, do as I cancel your freeCRN subscription as they sponsored this POS-forum
Businesses needs to learn that if they support SCO they wil be treated like pariahs.
1. How many PS2 consols have sold to date
Approx 60Mu (4.5mu/ qtr Last Qtr slow at 2.9Mu
2. How many Xbox consols have sold to date
9.4Mu
3. How many Gamecubes have sold to date
9.6Mu
Not to mention what the males erection must be like
It is not anyone famous since I normally include the source on Sigs if I know it.
A while ago I started to collect Sigs I see and like for one reason or other. Posted below for your enjoyment. Cheers
What's another word for "thesaurus"?
Knowledge is knowing a street is one way. Wisdom is still looking in both directions
Old age is too high a price to pay for maturity.
Man will never be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last priest - Diderot
That that is is that that is not is not
War doesn't prove who's right, just who's left.
My potato gun was confiscated by the United Nations. They said I wasn't allowed to have weapons of mash destruction
Timing must be perfect now. Two-timing must be better than perfect.
Television is a medium because anything well done is rare. -- attributed to both Fred Allen and Ernie Kovacs
Si jeunesse savait, si vieillesse pouvait
What upsets me is not that you lied to me, but that from now on I can no longer believe you. -- Nietzsche
Always remember that you are unique. Just like everyone else.
He who knows not and knows he knows not is a wise man. He who knows not and knows not he knows not is a fool.
Tis more blessed to give than receive; for example, wedding presents. -- H.L. Mencken
I don't use drugs any more . . . than the average touring funk band. -Bill Hicks
Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend. Inside of a dog, it's too dark to read - Groucho Marx
On a serious note since it's based on LinuxBIOS they have a system where you can launch another Kernel without taking the system down. It is quite clever and you can optimize alternative kernels for the program you are running, incl 32 vs 64 bit.
Let me suggest you all email HP