It's time for Google to put their 'information available to everyone' and 'do no evil' mantra to work here. Build some DNS infrastructure, and start their own DNS system ending in.google, or maybe.fuckicann.
WTF? Is this another SMS is better proclamation? Email works fine. I want a record of my conversations, thats why I use email. I also want to use a full sized keyboard and decent spelling and grammar, which is why I don't type on my phone.
Yes, that's why it's absolutely okay that companies made profit from collaboration with the Nazi-Regime in Germany. Melting jewish golden teeth into bars is a good deal to improve shareholder value.
I learned at school in Germany that companies are responsible for the politics they support by their actions and that this is one of the lessons to learn from my countrys past.
But obviously my teachers were wrong.
Obviously. What you should have learned about the history of your country is to not allow a dictator to take power. Of course your socialist state wouldn't own up to it's own faults, much easier to put the blame squarely on capitalism.
Maybe some lessons on how placing the blame on others instead of owning up for your own mistakes guarantees you continue to repeat them would be of use. I mean come on here, you started, fought, and lost World War One, so you have to go and do it all over again with the sequel.
You let a dictator take power on a platform of hate and racism, and the lesson your schools teach you is that it's the companies faults for going along with it. Brilliant.
I'll go investing into some company dealing with the organs of executed chinese people now.
You do that.
Last I checked, no German company started the holocaust because on day an actuary said "Hey, there is an untapped metal resource in people's teeth! Hans, run the numbers, whats the ROI on slaughtering an ethnic group here!"
It's the governments. If the US government wants to stop US Based companies from doing this sort of thing with oppressive foreign powers, it should take a look at it's foreign policies and trade agreements and also laws regulating corporate duties to foreign powers. The US government hasn't done a whole lot to restrict US business activity in China yet it has the power to do so. Pulling Yahoo and Google execs before Congress to testify about why they followed the lawful instructions of a foreign government on data housed in that country was just slack jawed political grandstanding.
Just to clarify, it's a companies job to increase shareholder value. To take risks and return value based on those risks. Getting kicked out of China would immensely damage Yahoo's stock, and therefore it made the right decision. The US Government is the body to blame here, and it is short sighted to place the blame elsewhere.
that this is also why Apple's hardware is more expensive? Windows went with the intel platform and it spread like wildfire because there was an open set of standards and anyone could make a video card, controller, sound card, etc.
Apple closed its standards so it can of course not have to be backward compatible.
And of course lets not forget that windows has software that is actually worth being backward compatible with. There's a few reasons a mac version of a game or program takes a few years to to be written from when it was released to the PC.
I have to second this. Our daughter was very easy to deal with as far as tantrums and so forth go and my wife and I attribute a lot of it to a lack of frustration with communication. If she wanted something or was interested in something, she had a method of expressing herself and it seemed to make her much happier.
Signing seemed very intuitive for her to pickup and she learned very rapidly to sign for things she liked. She just turned 2 and has been able to do 5 word sentences already, so I don't think it's negatively impacted her verbal learning either.
Peretz writes "NASA has a confirmed a theory of what took place post-Big Bang and time expansion. They claim: 'Over the course of millions of years, gravity exploited the density differences to create the structure of the universe---stars and galaxies separated by vast voids.' Thereby creating a 'structure' to the universe -- a kiddush cup. '...finds that the first stars---the forebears of all subsequent generations of stars and of life itself---were fully formed remarkably early, only about 400 million years after inflation. This is called the era of reionization, the point when the light from the first stars ionized hydrogen atoms, liberating electrons from the protons.'"
Era of reionization? Time expansion? Doesn't Nasa know this is friday afternoon, time to go drinking and chase skirts? I can't think about this now!
I doubt it is too. I suspect rather that the entire unit including the file system falls under a patent and DCMA and a windows EULA (as another poster suggested).
Combine that with the other post commenting that this company enjoys filing lawsuits, and what do you think will happen to Mr. Reverse Engineer when he rolls out his Linux client and source to the world?
If you don't see a problem here, you are a naive person. Which is nice in a way, it's refreshing to find someone with a simple innocent mind out there from time to time.
Just don't take any candy from strangers and I'm sure you'll go far.
You are sorely ill-informed on the patent issues between NTP and RIM. I guess it doesn't matter to you that the US patent office has revoked all of NTPs patents?
I think it's highly doubtful that their filesystem is patented (see how quickly it was reverse engineered) -- and that's all his software deals with. Their chance for dictating terms to him was when he requested documentation on the system; they've declined to provide it to him, so he reverse-engineered it. If he can get legal advice indicating that the risk from releasing his software is permissible, then I don't see any reason for him to offer Alesis another chance at determining how *his* software will be used.
The "honest route" was exactly the route he took (at least, based on his submission) -- writing the driver without using any NDA-restricted documentation. The fact that the driver is used for reading their filesystem is next to irrelevant. The driver is his, and his decision should be based upon his level of commitment to Free software, and on the legal risks, as determined by someone qualified to give such advice.
Because something was easy to reverse engineer does not mean it isn't patented. Do you think a safety pin or a hair net or screw driver with detachable heads is complicated?
The problem I see here is that you aren't developing something new and giving back to the OS community with this, you are reverse engineering a (presumably) patented product and wanting to release that knowledge into the OS community.
If I were you I'd be awfully careful with what you are doing. Maybe you could just release some sort of closed source linux tool to allow access to this device so your needs are met, and even send it to them so they can release a linux client if they want.
No matter what your feelings are on patent and IP, you still need to tread lightly with their stuff. Esp since you probably contacted them with email so they have documented proof that you went and asked 1st, knew they didnt want to release one, so then set out to reverse engineer it anyway.
But, kudos to you. I'd go the honest route with them, send them your source, say here ya go, I did this cause I LOVE your product and want to use it with Linux, I hope you can appreciate that, and make this available to your customers like me.
I could see the developer who had this project fall in his lap say "this is fucking stupid, lets teach them a lesson on integrating spyware with their cds" and violating this license (which will give them a black eye) and then write it in such a way that people can easily use it as a virus/trojan vector.
The more I think about it, it really smells of dissention from within.
Either that or it looks to me like this is a mix of business people not understanding their market, customers, or technology and sloppy code work. I mean, what asshat would grab some open source code and not adhere to the license? It is either a tremendous faux pas on Sony's part, or there was some intentional act here to make this as reprehensible as possible.
Sort of like watching the music industry test the waters on this sort of thing and finding them extremely chilly.
Instead of the siren from a smoke detector, use a tape loop of my 20 month old crying becase we won't let her continue to throw things down our stair case. Or maybe some britanny spears really loud, or any boy band music at all (NYKOB for teh win).
It's interesting to think of how software has slowly gained more and more control over our lives. I mean, cell phones used to come in a satchel case, now they play videos. The more complex, the more risk in our tech it seems. It really paves the way for open source inititives (I can see how that code slapped together by a guru would have been fixed by open source).
It almost seems like peer review should be required in critical software like phone switches, medical equipment, etc. I mean, scientists need peer review for their work, how about some practical real world peer review going on? Maybe some sort of non-profit gets setup, or an international body formed like the IEEE or something, to review this sort of thing.
I also wanted to throw in my 2 cents and say that this was a great article. Lots of stuff on slashdot you have to wonder what they were thinking, but this was pretty interesting.
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What if my 12 millisecond sample of audio is of me cutting some grade A American cheese? Will I get an ad for gas-x?
this sounds like bullshit to me.
It's time for Google to put their 'information available to everyone' and 'do no evil' mantra to work here. Build some DNS infrastructure, and start their own DNS system ending in .google, or maybe .fuckicann.
You got a guide or faw describing what you've done?
I wonder, this have anything to do with these drugs becoming mainstream?
Education in the US is teh suq
Like a big 120mm shell converted into a roadside bomb.
Or a stick of TNT dipped in superglue and then bb's
In conclusion, bite me, it's friday.
I learned at school in Germany that companies are responsible for the politics they support by their actions and that this is one of the lessons to learn from my countrys past. But obviously my teachers were wrong.
Obviously. What you should have learned about the history of your country is to not allow a dictator to take power. Of course your socialist state wouldn't own up to it's own faults, much easier to put the blame squarely on capitalism.
Maybe some lessons on how placing the blame on others instead of owning up for your own mistakes guarantees you continue to repeat them would be of use. I mean come on here, you started, fought, and lost World War One, so you have to go and do it all over again with the sequel.
You let a dictator take power on a platform of hate and racism, and the lesson your schools teach you is that it's the companies faults for going along with it. Brilliant.
I'll go investing into some company dealing with the organs of executed chinese people now.
You do that.
Last I checked, no German company started the holocaust because on day an actuary said "Hey, there is an untapped metal resource in people's teeth! Hans, run the numbers, whats the ROI on slaughtering an ethnic group here!"
Just to clarify, it's a companies job to increase shareholder value. To take risks and return value based on those risks. Getting kicked out of China would immensely damage Yahoo's stock, and therefore it made the right decision. The US Government is the body to blame here, and it is short sighted to place the blame elsewhere.
Apple closed its standards so it can of course not have to be backward compatible.
And of course lets not forget that windows has software that is actually worth being backward compatible with. There's a few reasons a mac version of a game or program takes a few years to to be written from when it was released to the PC.
I have to second this. Our daughter was very easy to deal with as far as tantrums and so forth go and my wife and I attribute a lot of it to a lack of frustration with communication. If she wanted something or was interested in something, she had a method of expressing herself and it seemed to make her much happier. Signing seemed very intuitive for her to pickup and she learned very rapidly to sign for things she liked. She just turned 2 and has been able to do 5 word sentences already, so I don't think it's negatively impacted her verbal learning either.
Era of reionization? Time expansion? Doesn't Nasa know this is friday afternoon, time to go drinking and chase skirts? I can't think about this now!
On the product page [alesis.com] it specifically says "patent-pending method of writing to the hard drive"
Combine that with the other post commenting that this company enjoys filing lawsuits, and what do you think will happen to Mr. Reverse Engineer when he rolls out his Linux client and source to the world?
If you don't see a problem here, you are a naive person. Which is nice in a way, it's refreshing to find someone with a simple innocent mind out there from time to time.
Just don't take any candy from strangers and I'm sure you'll go far.
k thx
The "honest route" was exactly the route he took (at least, based on his submission) -- writing the driver without using any NDA-restricted documentation. The fact that the driver is used for reading their filesystem is next to irrelevant. The driver is his, and his decision should be based upon his level of commitment to Free software, and on the legal risks, as determined by someone qualified to give such advice.
Because something was easy to reverse engineer does not mean it isn't patented. Do you think a safety pin or a hair net or screw driver with detachable heads is complicated?
No? Didn't think so.
Your point being?
If I were you I'd be awfully careful with what you are doing. Maybe you could just release some sort of closed source linux tool to allow access to this device so your needs are met, and even send it to them so they can release a linux client if they want.
No matter what your feelings are on patent and IP, you still need to tread lightly with their stuff. Esp since you probably contacted them with email so they have documented proof that you went and asked 1st, knew they didnt want to release one, so then set out to reverse engineer it anyway.
But, kudos to you. I'd go the honest route with them, send them your source, say here ya go, I did this cause I LOVE your product and want to use it with Linux, I hope you can appreciate that, and make this available to your customers like me.
That's Navier-Stokes
The more I think about it, it really smells of dissention from within.
Either that or it looks to me like this is a mix of business people not understanding their market, customers, or technology and sloppy code work. I mean, what asshat would grab some open source code and not adhere to the license? It is either a tremendous faux pas on Sony's part, or there was some intentional act here to make this as reprehensible as possible.
Sort of like watching the music industry test the waters on this sort of thing and finding them extremely chilly.
Instead of the siren from a smoke detector, use a tape loop of my 20 month old crying becase we won't let her continue to throw things down our stair case. Or maybe some britanny spears really loud, or any boy band music at all (NYKOB for teh win).
It almost seems like peer review should be required in critical software like phone switches, medical equipment, etc. I mean, scientists need peer review for their work, how about some practical real world peer review going on? Maybe some sort of non-profit gets setup, or an international body formed like the IEEE or something, to review this sort of thing.
I also wanted to throw in my 2 cents and say that this was a great article. Lots of stuff on slashdot you have to wonder what they were thinking, but this was pretty interesting.