The thing is, they didn't even fake the screenshots well enough to hide the fact they've ripped off WINE and/or Crossover Office. Does that say something about their competance?
Indeed, this is almost certain proof that it's WINE-derived. If you look at the list of files that are shown in winbridge.lst icon, then we have (with my guesses in brackets):
Much as I'm pissed off with Microsoft for putting out software with so many holes, I think virus writers still have a lot to answer for.
I reckon he should get 10 minutes of prison time for every machine his trojan infected, since this is the time it probably takes someone on average to clean up the mess.
1,000,000 * 10 minutes = 166,667 hours = 6944 days = 19 years.
The technology is almost certainly patented so don't expect it to show up in Linux any time soon. Hopefully some of the MIT or Berkley researchers will come up with an even better way of doing this and have it in oss in no time.
That's like, what, a five click install process? No offense, but it doesn't strike me as the ideal software for doing this, let alone hard to set up. You haven't even customised it. You haven't even bought a domain name for this site. It's an interesting idea, but you really need to work on your web marketing skills. But it won't matter, since on a shared server with a MySQL backend I expect the site will be/.ed in about T-minus five minutes.
GNOME stands for GNU Network Object Model Environment (or something), so they haven't really taken it over because the GNU is still there. If you want to be pedantic, we'd better start calling our operating systems GNOME/XFree/GNU/Linux.
I've never had problems with my sound cards in recent years. I am not a big audio afficionado - a basic 2.1 speaker setup plugged in to the motherboard's onboard sound chip is all I need, so I don't really know. The extent of my experience is that the intel8x0 ALSA driver seems to work okay. Has anyone had bad experiences with modern cards and ALSA?
What you don't seem to realise is that most of these vulnerabilities would fall into the realm of "third party products" on a Microsoft-powered box. Linux may get more security advisories, but if you compare the number of packages a Linux security advisory site covers compared with what's included in an out of the box Windows install (certainly no professional quality Web Server with XP, for example), the number is still proportionally lower.
Sounds like the advertisers have to be running out of slants on this web advertising thing soon.
Much as I dislike Web Advertising, I sure hope the industry doesn't collapse again. Adverts provide a valuable (and sometimes the sole) source of income for large numbers of sites (including open source sites, like kde-look.org).
If webmasters suddenly lost the money they receive, and had to pay out of donations or their own pocket, I think you'd see many more sites simply going under.
I really hope that pop-ups and pop-unders dissapear (and it's likely this form of advertising will be smashed to bits by Microsoft's pop-up blocker going in to IE6 in XP SP2, like most people here I already have a browser that does this) but you're not going to get rid of them entirely. In an ideal world web space would be free and unlimited and we wouldn't need adverts, but the Internet is controlled and financed by corperations in capitalist economies, and as such there's no such thing as a free lunch.
By proprietary, is he talking about Trolltech's Qtopia? I'm glad Trolltech are putting out GPL'd versions of QT these days, but this is certainly not the case with their other products. Much as I'm for the advancement of Linux in embedded markets, I can't stand this particular platform. The most annoying thing is that IMO, it looks awful - not very pretty at all compared with the slick interfaces you see on Palm Powered and Windows CE Powered machines. Plus I bet it's pretty expensive to license.
It's amazing, because what seems like only a few short months ago I made this very joke (not on Slashdot) and the figures actually worked out too (i.e. the X-Box cluster was cheaper). I agree it's pretty amazing progress we've seen in the last two years... heck the last 20 years of computing. The X-Box seems positively expensive by comparison, especially when you have to go and fiddle them to boot Linux;)
GTK is much prettier than QT..
But seriously, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. There are just as many people who prefer Gnome's look over KDE's as there are who prefer KDE's over Gnome's.
I don't rate $1000 per seat as a reasonable price when I could give each developer Windows XP and bulk-licensed Visual Studio for a much lower price. I think QT is a great toolkit and am glad it's licensed under the GPL, however their closed-source version is much too expensive and I have to wonder whether many people actually buy it when there are equally as valid business models that involve GPL'd products these days anyway.
Whatever they say in the FAQ is bollocks. They have released their code under the GPL, hence you follow the GPL, not any "extra rules" they've come up with. The GPL says nothing about whether software is "commercial" or "non-commercial", it only states you must make available and distribute the source under the GPL. They've violating their own software license if they try and enforce extra rules (see clause 4). I agree that the Windows think is a big PITA, however IIRC there is a project attempting to write a GPL'd port of QT for Windows.
Erm no. Gnome is LGPL. Also there's no legal way that Trolltech can prevent you from selling apps you write with QT, provided you publish the source code under the GPL.
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Timay and Taco have anyone who has a star after their name ;)
I too discovered an incredible thing about the Microsoft Windows OS, it's right here!
The thing is, they didn't even fake the screenshots well enough to hide the fact they've ripped off WINE and/or Crossover Office. Does that say something about their competance?
Indeed, this is almost certain proof that it's WINE-derived. If you look at the list of files that are shown in winbridge.lst icon, then we have (with my guesses in brackets):
/etc/rc.d/init
/etc/wine
/usr/bin/notep[ad.exe]
/usr/bin/progm[an.exe]
/usr/bin/reged[it.exe]
/usr/bin/regsv[r32.exe]
/usr/bin/unins[tall.exe]
/usr/bin/wcmd
/usr/bin/wine
/usr/bin/wine-[???]
/usr/bin/wine-[???]
If that's not a WINE ripoff I can't imagine what else it is.
Much as I'm pissed off with Microsoft for putting out software with so many holes, I think virus writers still have a lot to answer for.
I reckon he should get 10 minutes of prison time for every machine his trojan infected, since this is the time it probably takes someone on average to clean up the mess.
1,000,000 * 10 minutes = 166,667 hours = 6944 days = 19 years.
Seems fair to me, anyways...
It's, erm, just resting in my account. Honest!
The technology is almost certainly patented so don't expect it to show up in Linux any time soon. Hopefully some of the MIT or Berkley researchers will come up with an even better way of doing this and have it in oss in no time.
... and these guys claim to be a security company?
That's like, what, a five click install process? No offense, but it doesn't strike me as the ideal software for doing this, let alone hard to set up. You haven't even customised it. You haven't even bought a domain name for this site. It's an interesting idea, but you really need to work on your web marketing skills. But it won't matter, since on a shared server with a MySQL backend I expect the site will be /.ed in about T-minus five minutes.
GNOME stands for GNU Network Object Model Environment (or something), so they haven't really taken it over because the GNU is still there. If you want to be pedantic, we'd better start calling our operating systems GNOME/XFree/GNU/Linux.
I've never had problems with my sound cards in recent years. I am not a big audio afficionado - a basic 2.1 speaker setup plugged in to the motherboard's onboard sound chip is all I need, so I don't really know. The extent of my experience is that the intel8x0 ALSA driver seems to work okay. Has anyone had bad experiences with modern cards and ALSA?
You can run QT if you pay Trolltech $1,000,000.
What you don't seem to realise is that most of these vulnerabilities would fall into the realm of "third party products" on a Microsoft-powered box. Linux may get more security advisories, but if you compare the number of packages a Linux security advisory site covers compared with what's included in an out of the box Windows install (certainly no professional quality Web Server with XP, for example), the number is still proportionally lower.
If webmasters suddenly lost the money they receive, and had to pay out of donations or their own pocket, I think you'd see many more sites simply going under.
I really hope that pop-ups and pop-unders dissapear (and it's likely this form of advertising will be smashed to bits by Microsoft's pop-up blocker going in to IE6 in XP SP2, like most people here I already have a browser that does this) but you're not going to get rid of them entirely. In an ideal world web space would be free and unlimited and we wouldn't need adverts, but the Internet is controlled and financed by corperations in capitalist economies, and as such there's no such thing as a free lunch.
By proprietary, is he talking about Trolltech's Qtopia? I'm glad Trolltech are putting out GPL'd versions of QT these days, but this is certainly not the case with their other products. Much as I'm for the advancement of Linux in embedded markets, I can't stand this particular platform. The most annoying thing is that IMO, it looks awful - not very pretty at all compared with the slick interfaces you see on Palm Powered and Windows CE Powered machines. Plus I bet it's pretty expensive to license.
... and they say that BSD is dying! ;)
I've been on Kernel 2.6 for several months now, and am currently running Kernel 2.6 + udev 023 + hotplug . You really ought to try Gentoo.
It's amazing, because what seems like only a few short months ago I made this very joke (not on Slashdot) and the figures actually worked out too (i.e. the X-Box cluster was cheaper). I agree it's pretty amazing progress we've seen in the last two years... heck the last 20 years of computing. The X-Box seems positively expensive by comparison, especially when you have to go and fiddle them to boot Linux ;)
50 x $150 = $7500
This gives me 35000MHz of processor power and 3200MB of RAM. That'd be a pretty nice setup.
GTK is much prettier than QT.. But seriously, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. There are just as many people who prefer Gnome's look over KDE's as there are who prefer KDE's over Gnome's.
The point is that if it's going to win out over Winodws and Mac OS X, it will need shareware. I can't seem them paying $1000 for Trolltech's toolkit.
I don't rate $1000 per seat as a reasonable price when I could give each developer Windows XP and bulk-licensed Visual Studio for a much lower price. I think QT is a great toolkit and am glad it's licensed under the GPL, however their closed-source version is much too expensive and I have to wonder whether many people actually buy it when there are equally as valid business models that involve GPL'd products these days anyway.
Whatever they say in the FAQ is bollocks. They have released their code under the GPL, hence you follow the GPL, not any "extra rules" they've come up with. The GPL says nothing about whether software is "commercial" or "non-commercial", it only states you must make available and distribute the source under the GPL. They've violating their own software license if they try and enforce extra rules (see clause 4). I agree that the Windows think is a big PITA, however IIRC there is a project attempting to write a GPL'd port of QT for Windows.
... erm, never mind.
Erm no. Gnome is LGPL. Also there's no legal way that Trolltech can prevent you from selling apps you write with QT, provided you publish the source code under the GPL.