Jordy Verrill: "That's an Ipod, I'll be dipped in shit if that ain't an Ipod. I wonder how much they'd pay for it up the college?"
Dream sequence --
Professor: "Two hundred dollars? For a broken Ipod? Mr. Verrill, you must be joking! I WOULDN'T GIVE YOU TWO CENTS FOR IT!"
True true. Unions are needed. Arguably needed in every profession skilled or unskilled.
The only place where this is true is developing nations. America is being destroyed by Unions.
How about this scenario: Every 5 to 10 years or so a company could lay off a few top level programmers with 10+ years experience each then hire new programmers just out of school. Could even increase head-count at a lower cost if needed. Not to mention that it's easier to con younger engineers usually work longer hours because they don't have families yet.
This is called 'business', they taught it at a school I went to once. If the company in your scenario is able to lose the experience and talent of those programmers with 10+ years of experience and still be profitable and effective, then they are DUTY BOUND to their shareholders to do it and reduce costs, not to do so would be wrong.
Not that it's all gravy in our industry right now. It's pretty scary when I think of all my techie friends and techie ex-coworkers (and techie people that I meet on the street for crying out loud) that have been out of work for 6-12 months or more.
Then they either:
1)Suck
2)Live in some area with no tech demand anyway
3)Are not looking properly
The only people I've ever heard of out of work for more than a month are paper MCSEs and people in very narrow vertical markets. As demand shifts in the market, you sometimes have to make changes in YOURSELF as well, though people often deny this.
While I haven't been laid off, sometimes I feel like I could loose my job at any day without notice. I sure wouldn't be surprised if it happened (but I'd be in shock of course). I don't think I could prevent that from happening if it was to happen. I don't feel that it would be linked to my performance in any way. It'd just be a cost cutting measure. So all I can do is save my money and quietly prepare for it to happen some day.
Years ago, when the guy that drove the Ice truck saw that Sears was selling a refrigerator with a freezer, he should have started thinking about a change. Five years later, there were no longer any jobs delivering Ice in most places, and if this guy didn't take care of himself, he was out. Is that the fault of the Ice company? The fact that there wasn't a union? If you think there is a real possibility you could be laid off any day AND it would have nothing to do with your performance, you should be working on keeping your resume up to date and going on interviews at least once a month, just to stay 'warm' and get a feeling for the local market.
Or you could just wait to get laid off and bitch about it like all these union guys.
You can think of a practical situation where the location on your cell will be used against you??
Yes. Due to the fact that humans put way too much faith in technology in general AND humans are still allowed on jurys, this is a huge problem. If you look like the guy that robbed the bank AND your phone says you were in the area at the time, you end up guilty until proven innocent.
a) Ticket for talking while driving?
That's illegal, and I personally think you're an asshole for doing it, and think you deserve to have a ticket, with a three strike no license policy.
Sorry, its not illegal. Not sure where you live, but in the US there's only a few places where it is illegal to use a hand-held phone without a headset, but there is no place in the US where it is illegal to USE a phone while driving with a headset. In fact, a few years ago there was talk about making it part of the drivers test in Hawaii.
b) Where were you on the night of BLAH?.. Oh yeah, well your phone says you were HERE!.
So you are suggesting that police with a warrant should not have this information? This ties in with...
Correct, they should not have this information without your consent. This is a fifth amendment issue.
c) A text message saying "Would you like to buy some CRAP?" as you walk by the CRAP store.
Once again you are assuming anyone has it. Damn boy.
The information is owned by a private company, so they can do whatever they please with it, including selling some or all of it to the CRAP store for the purpose described. As soon as someone figures out how to market it properly, anyone with the $$ will have it.
Yeah, just what the world needs, a tech union. So I can pay 5% of my wages to support the bottom 30% who screw up every job the touch because the honestly suck. No thanks, competition and quality speak, stay out of their way.
Yeah, and 25 years ago, we had something called "Weekly Reader" and the Science page was always my favorite, it talked about how the Earth was getting progressively Colder year-by-year and how there would likely be another Ice Age in a few thousand years as the trend continues. Of course now we're all going to boil in a mixture of carbon monoxide and melted iceberg. I look forward to picking up my grandchildren from school in my SUV in 25 years, hearing them tell tales of vanishing fossil fuels and global cooling. I think Carbs will be back in by then too.
Quick! Piss off 50 hippies! Oh, crap, you already did. As usual, slashdot runs so far to the left my monitor is crooked again. For more fun, talk about how global warming doesn't exist.....
Like most things computer-related, if you know what you're doing, you don't install a steady stream of downloaded crap, and you get a working configuration and leave it alone - it can run for great periods of time quite reliably. Perhaps not approaching the mutli-year uptimes of BSD servers, but it ain't a server, so a few weeks between reboots is reasonable. This is still the only OS with better device support than Linux...
Respectfully.
1. There's no reason whatsoever to guarantee the heirs of stockholders as many economic benefits as they currently receive.
They're not. They are at the mercy of the market, nothing is guaranteed.
2. Workers should receive equity stakes in companies as well as wages. Intended for retirement, these stakes could only be sold early at a substantial loss.
Since I'm sure you're suggesting this in lieu of a portion of their existing wages, not in addition to, what's to stop them from doing this now? People are free to buy stock if they want with part of their salary. Those who choose not to aren't forced to. You want to take away that freedom? (Which comes with the ability to choose the investment, Tobacco employees may NOT want to invest in their company long-term for example).
3. Management should definitely receive the majority of their compensation in long-term equity stakes to inhibit actions which only serve the short-term interests of shareholders.
So then manager's get the same salary as those they manage for some far-off gain? Twice the responsibility for the same compensation, where do I sign?
4. Remove the farm subsidies in the U.S., Europe, Japan that not only cost taxpayers and consumers, but also prevent 3rd world nations from competing on a level playing field and providing an opportunity for them to raise their standard of living out of the subbasement.
Where do we bury the farmers? Most of them are at subsistance levels right now, you want to tell them they're now going to make 1 to 4 cents on the dollar of their current income? This would have to be phased out over a long, long time, but I agree it is fundamentally a bad economic idea.
No its not exponential (doubling every 18 months is 2x not x^2). See Ray Kurzweil, Age of Spiritual Machines, whatever replaces silicon semis will have a growth rate _greater_ than that which it replaces, so the next phase will be greater than 2x every 18 months just as the current rate was faster than that which it replaced.
Not sure what school you go to, but I believe this statement is true only for the subset of women who can successfully answer the question "Do you know the name of a Prussian mathematician?"
Also, you can have the 3.0 Enterprise product by compiling the source yourself, so if you don't want to pay for support, dont. Somebody posted a link to a site that tells you how to do it. Maybe they could again......
Admittedly, I've talked to only a few that we've done work with since this has happened, but the CxO's we have spoken to have welcomed this differentiation as "the thing that makes it a real product". Non-technical management doesn't want their kid's MP3 server running the same OS as their Oracle server - and if they see it, they're not going to question the kid. This has been a problem in the past with our suggestion of Linux in the past, its too cheap. The biggest stumbling block is the mistaken belief that something Free cannot possibly be as good/reliable/stable as a commercial product. They're happier now. The only people running don't matter to RedHat the company, because if those people get into a position to recommend a commercial solution to a client, they'll be back to it in a heartbeat.
At this point its worth defining what we mean by "connection".
1) All machines can be connected at the same time even with the power off if you're looking at the physical "connections"
2) A TCP/IP "connection" can be maintained with great amounts of downtime between packets, so a non-stop data flow is not required in this case.
3) An application "connection", such as a map drive, can be maintained much longer than this without communication between the end nodes, yet it is still a valid connection.
4) Even with multiple PCI buses supporting the ethernet cards, system RAM is shared, so aspects of the lowest "connection" levels are handled serially unless you're REALLY lucky memory-bus-wise
We need to resolve these important semantic issues before we can really get into the meat of this thing.
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That's why we SHOULD put the reactor there. If something goes horribly wrong nobody will be too upset.....
Jordy Verrill: "That's an Ipod, I'll be dipped in shit if that ain't an Ipod. I wonder how much they'd pay for it up the college?" Dream sequence -- Professor: "Two hundred dollars? For a broken Ipod? Mr. Verrill, you must be joking! I WOULDN'T GIVE YOU TWO CENTS FOR IT!"
The only place where this is true is developing nations. America is being destroyed by Unions.
How about this scenario: Every 5 to 10 years or so a company could lay off a few top level programmers with 10+ years experience each then hire new programmers just out of school. Could even increase head-count at a lower cost if needed. Not to mention that it's easier to con younger engineers usually work longer hours because they don't have families yet.
This is called 'business', they taught it at a school I went to once. If the company in your scenario is able to lose the experience and talent of those programmers with 10+ years of experience and still be profitable and effective, then they are DUTY BOUND to their shareholders to do it and reduce costs, not to do so would be wrong.
Not that it's all gravy in our industry right now. It's pretty scary when I think of all my techie friends and techie ex-coworkers (and techie people that I meet on the street for crying out loud) that have been out of work for 6-12 months or more.
Then they either: 1)Suck 2)Live in some area with no tech demand anyway 3)Are not looking properly The only people I've ever heard of out of work for more than a month are paper MCSEs and people in very narrow vertical markets. As demand shifts in the market, you sometimes have to make changes in YOURSELF as well, though people often deny this.
While I haven't been laid off, sometimes I feel like I could loose my job at any day without notice. I sure wouldn't be surprised if it happened (but I'd be in shock of course). I don't think I could prevent that from happening if it was to happen. I don't feel that it would be linked to my performance in any way. It'd just be a cost cutting measure. So all I can do is save my money and quietly prepare for it to happen some day.
Years ago, when the guy that drove the Ice truck saw that Sears was selling a refrigerator with a freezer, he should have started thinking about a change. Five years later, there were no longer any jobs delivering Ice in most places, and if this guy didn't take care of himself, he was out. Is that the fault of the Ice company? The fact that there wasn't a union? If you think there is a real possibility you could be laid off any day AND it would have nothing to do with your performance, you should be working on keeping your resume up to date and going on interviews at least once a month, just to stay 'warm' and get a feeling for the local market. Or you could just wait to get laid off and bitch about it like all these union guys.
Yes. Due to the fact that humans put way too much faith in technology in general AND humans are still allowed on jurys, this is a huge problem. If you look like the guy that robbed the bank AND your phone says you were in the area at the time, you end up guilty until proven innocent.
Sorry, its not illegal. Not sure where you live, but in the US there's only a few places where it is illegal to use a hand-held phone without a headset, but there is no place in the US where it is illegal to USE a phone while driving with a headset. In fact, a few years ago there was talk about making it part of the drivers test in Hawaii.
b) Where were you on the night of BLAH?.. Oh yeah, well your phone says you were HERE!. So you are suggesting that police with a warrant should not have this information? This ties in with...
Correct, they should not have this information without your consent. This is a fifth amendment issue.
c) A text message saying "Would you like to buy some CRAP?" as you walk by the CRAP store. Once again you are assuming anyone has it. Damn boy.
The information is owned by a private company, so they can do whatever they please with it, including selling some or all of it to the CRAP store for the purpose described. As soon as someone figures out how to market it properly, anyone with the $$ will have it.
Yeah, just what the world needs, a tech union. So I can pay 5% of my wages to support the bottom 30% who screw up every job the touch because the honestly suck. No thanks, competition and quality speak, stay out of their way.
Yes, use something that's wrong as justification for doing something wrong. That will make everything right.
Yeah, and 25 years ago, we had something called "Weekly Reader" and the Science page was always my favorite, it talked about how the Earth was getting progressively Colder year-by-year and how there would likely be another Ice Age in a few thousand years as the trend continues. Of course now we're all going to boil in a mixture of carbon monoxide and melted iceberg. I look forward to picking up my grandchildren from school in my SUV in 25 years, hearing them tell tales of vanishing fossil fuels and global cooling. I think Carbs will be back in by then too.
That would be useful: BsD+Qmail is always a day for me since I do it once a year & am too lazy to write all that funky shit down!
Quick! Piss off 50 hippies! Oh, crap, you already did. As usual, slashdot runs so far to the left my monitor is crooked again. For more fun, talk about how global warming doesn't exist.....
Like most things computer-related, if you know what you're doing, you don't install a steady stream of downloaded crap, and you get a working configuration and leave it alone - it can run for great periods of time quite reliably. Perhaps not approaching the mutli-year uptimes of BSD servers, but it ain't a server, so a few weeks between reboots is reasonable. This is still the only OS with better device support than Linux...
They're not. They are at the mercy of the market, nothing is guaranteed.
2. Workers should receive equity stakes in companies as well as wages. Intended for retirement, these stakes could only be sold early at a substantial loss.
Since I'm sure you're suggesting this in lieu of a portion of their existing wages, not in addition to, what's to stop them from doing this now? People are free to buy stock if they want with part of their salary. Those who choose not to aren't forced to. You want to take away that freedom? (Which comes with the ability to choose the investment, Tobacco employees may NOT want to invest in their company long-term for example).
3. Management should definitely receive the majority of their compensation in long-term equity stakes to inhibit actions which only serve the short-term interests of shareholders.
So then manager's get the same salary as those they manage for some far-off gain? Twice the responsibility for the same compensation, where do I sign?
4. Remove the farm subsidies in the U.S., Europe, Japan that not only cost taxpayers and consumers, but also prevent 3rd world nations from competing on a level playing field and providing an opportunity for them to raise their standard of living out of the subbasement.
Where do we bury the farmers? Most of them are at subsistance levels right now, you want to tell them they're now going to make 1 to 4 cents on the dollar of their current income? This would have to be phased out over a long, long time, but I agree it is fundamentally a bad economic idea.
Thank you Mr. Dean. Perhaps there is another option.....
"I'd love to install Linux, but I can't so much as format a floppy a without a 27b-6...."
Found it! This link http://www2.uibk.ac.at/zid/software/unix/linux/rhe l-rebuild.htm shows you that you CAN build RHEL by compiling from source.
They'll be happy because they can then talk about how they're using their own laboUr and a bunch of other words with no "z" and extra "u"'s.
Yeah, like if it was a truly independent system the US gov wouldn't figure out what frequency it was on and how to jam it anyway. Welcome to Earth.
Besides, the US doesn't attack countries that use systems as sophisticated as GPS......
No its not exponential (doubling every 18 months is 2x not x^2). See Ray Kurzweil, Age of Spiritual Machines, whatever replaces silicon semis will have a growth rate _greater_ than that which it replaces, so the next phase will be greater than 2x every 18 months just as the current rate was faster than that which it replaced.
Not sure what school you go to, but I believe this statement is true only for the subset of women who can successfully answer the question "Do you know the name of a Prussian mathematician?"
Also, you can have the 3.0 Enterprise product by compiling the source yourself, so if you don't want to pay for support, dont. Somebody posted a link to a site that tells you how to do it. Maybe they could again......
Admittedly, I've talked to only a few that we've done work with since this has happened, but the CxO's we have spoken to have welcomed this differentiation as "the thing that makes it a real product". Non-technical management doesn't want their kid's MP3 server running the same OS as their Oracle server - and if they see it, they're not going to question the kid. This has been a problem in the past with our suggestion of Linux in the past, its too cheap. The biggest stumbling block is the mistaken belief that something Free cannot possibly be as good/reliable/stable as a commercial product. They're happier now. The only people running don't matter to RedHat the company, because if those people get into a position to recommend a commercial solution to a client, they'll be back to it in a heartbeat.
At this point its worth defining what we mean by "connection". 1) All machines can be connected at the same time even with the power off if you're looking at the physical "connections" 2) A TCP/IP "connection" can be maintained with great amounts of downtime between packets, so a non-stop data flow is not required in this case. 3) An application "connection", such as a map drive, can be maintained much longer than this without communication between the end nodes, yet it is still a valid connection. 4) Even with multiple PCI buses supporting the ethernet cards, system RAM is shared, so aspects of the lowest "connection" levels are handled serially unless you're REALLY lucky memory-bus-wise We need to resolve these important semantic issues before we can really get into the meat of this thing.
How do you launch the pager?
Suppose that I want to switch between two windows in the same application Then you use ctrl-tab, which cycles open windows within an app.
Stratospheric jets don't destroy ozone.....people destroy ozone. -- card carying member of the NSJA, supporting the people's right to keep and bear stratospheres