Well, that's further confirmation that Apple's about to release a 7" tab. Sue everyone else for a design you don't even have a product for yet.
Interesting they've gone after the 7.7 and not the old first Tab perhaps (maybe just what's being sold still I guess). 7.7 + Jellybean is probably going to compete very favourably with whatever Apple brings out at that size too.
I just hope that when it IS released, the media holds up existing tablets and says 'Apple's done a great job of copying other 7" tablets here' and point things out for what they are. They won't of course, it'll only be all the tech sites making the 'does it come with sandpaper for your finger' jokes! But it'd be nice to call out Apple at the same time as the product is released for being derivative of existing hardware.
If we're changing it from the steering wheel, instead of a joystick, can we use a mouse and WASD? That should work far better for a vehicle that only operates in a 2D plane.
Agreed.
As is, the back button makes sense, (and even better when it changes to shrink keyboard, it worked like that before, but it's good the UI shows it clearer now).
A standardised location to move back, and if you really want to override it, well, there's ways to handle that in your own app (and have a 'are you sure' on the final back to close, with holding it down being a task kill override).
The task switch functionality is duplicated from holding the home button down, so... why is there another button needed? Have it shown as the tooltips the very first time you log into Android, then don't worry about it. Press once, back to home. Press and hold, taskswitch menu.
So... What does the taskswitcher need to be there for?
I'd prefer this to be optional. Some settings to control the functionality/visibility of these buttons. I'd drop the taskswitcher, and have the menu button replace it.
Totally. Samsung just need to come up with a marketing campaign based on this NOW.
Showing vapid fashionistas wandering along with diamond studded iDevices (or iSheeple outside an Apple store)
cut to laid back semi-hipster taking a pic, hitting the share button, posting an update, getting a notification the bus is 3 minutes away so he's got time to play a single level of randomAngryBirdsCloneThing, whilst listening to some music that's not 'too' hip that he's streaming.
When the sheeple comment 'whoa, that's cool' the semi-hipster says 'not really, it just does what I want it to do the way I want it to do it'
Samsung. Not cool, just functional.
The current Samsung adverts aren't a million miles from that. I think they've got the angle, just need to keep working on it.
That 100million would be hard to lose for any company, but in this case, it's just helping their competitor's products look better. It'd hurt, but to sell your services to a company that's then turning around suing you for using your own services on YOUR platform has got to be something that an exec high up should say 'why are we helping our competitor this much?'
If you can browse the web, answer emails, play games, remote into a server, edit txt documents, email out those docs, work on spreadsheets, and generally load up programs onto storage, run them, use them, on your washing machine like you can on phones these days, then yes, that'd be a computer too. I can make phone calls on my computer, that doesn't change what it is.
I've tried to make phone calls on my washing machine, but I find it's better voice clarity if I use the dryer, the dishwasher plays a great AngryBirds too.
JooJoo Tablet came out before the iPad was even announced I believe. I keep hearing 'well, there wasn't anything like the iPad before the iPad came out' but there were devices that worked like it (though cheap and bad Chinese Android tablets), and tablets that/looked/ like the iPad (JooJoo tablet).
Samsung had similar designs in other places, I don't think it's a stretch of imagination to use those same designs in your own products, that someone else just happens to have also used. Though even then, hold a Samsung Android Tablet and an Apple tablet, and the difference is obvious.
Think this is the closest Apple's come yet to going after core Google. It's the search patent that appears to have snagged them. If they get this, they get every android phone currently out there and serve a continual warning to every potential Android licensee that if they even think of entering the Phone Market, they WILL be sued out of existence. Don't think even MS back in the day was ever as obviously aggressive as this.
For something that I've always suspected started as a way to negotiate cheaper component prices out of Samsung, Apple's really stirred up a poo storm.
Samsung? Contacts be damned, now's the time to stop shipping anything to your competitor who only wants to see you destroyed the second they can replace you. Apple started the nerf bat swinging, never know who it'll take out in the end.
It's filled a gap, but with better apps, chrome being integrated now, time to let it retire gracefully. Sure there'll be a way to sideload it just in case it is needed for something in particular.
That's the thing, when Jobs said it should die, many agreed, but to not (at the time) offer an alternative, wasn't the best way to handle it. The web moves on, html5 (and the browsers) are more common, standards are just about standardised.
Bye flash. Take a chair next to the blink tag over there.
As one of the techies there as things were being created daily in the last days of the FAA/early days of the TSA, I should write a book of my own from the trenches. The view from above really didn't match what was actually happening in the training, and many of the problems we face now are down to just a few chance events from the early days that became embedded in methods. Such a chaotic time in my life, but worked with some of the hardest working people who were dedicated to the best job they could do (with the chaotic nature of the program trashing many a traditional project manager).
But it IS a decent book, well worth a read. Learned a lot myself. Just by mid 2002 onwards, anyone joining wasn't helping the madness going on, just layering on another level. It was far too late for any changes to effect positive change.
And, as hinted, to have this as an option in ALL laptops(heck, even desktops) that if you boot up with a phone attached, it passes control over to that. And/or, have an image to boot from the phone that runs inside Windows/MacOs/Linux. self contained VM that launches and uses phone resources (well, not a VM, a transposed machine).
The NZ authorities didn't have this information before? They've destroyed a company, cost the 'innocent until proven guilty' person great harm, and NZ hasn't even seen the evidence yet to allow the raid? Good grief.
Must be an odd position to be in where your competitor can take down the main thing you do. Ok, infringement obviously needs to be taken down quickly, but I can see there being a huge issue here later. Is there something that matches this in Bing? And if there is, wonder how quickly Google will take down pirate apk sites.
Ok, had to pause a moment there. Doing a search for; "free pirate android apps" on google/bing produces wildly different results as you'd imagine. Wonder how this will go.
Not a lawyer here, but isn't that WHEN the rate is offered, you can't charge crazy amounts? Is there something that FORCES you to sell to your competitor? ie, to stop FRAND applying, simple telling Apple 'sorry, we don't want you as a customer for our patents' is the thing the sammy lawyers are arguing here?
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Well, that's further confirmation that Apple's about to release a 7" tab. Sue everyone else for a design you don't even have a product for yet. Interesting they've gone after the 7.7 and not the old first Tab perhaps (maybe just what's being sold still I guess). 7.7 + Jellybean is probably going to compete very favourably with whatever Apple brings out at that size too. I just hope that when it IS released, the media holds up existing tablets and says 'Apple's done a great job of copying other 7" tablets here' and point things out for what they are. They won't of course, it'll only be all the tech sites making the 'does it come with sandpaper for your finger' jokes! But it'd be nice to call out Apple at the same time as the product is released for being derivative of existing hardware.
If we're changing it from the steering wheel, instead of a joystick, can we use a mouse and WASD? That should work far better for a vehicle that only operates in a 2D plane.
Thank you! As I was scrolling down I had that tune in my head.
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Agreed. As is, the back button makes sense, (and even better when it changes to shrink keyboard, it worked like that before, but it's good the UI shows it clearer now). A standardised location to move back, and if you really want to override it, well, there's ways to handle that in your own app (and have a 'are you sure' on the final back to close, with holding it down being a task kill override). The task switch functionality is duplicated from holding the home button down, so... why is there another button needed? Have it shown as the tooltips the very first time you log into Android, then don't worry about it. Press once, back to home. Press and hold, taskswitch menu. So... What does the taskswitcher need to be there for? I'd prefer this to be optional. Some settings to control the functionality/visibility of these buttons. I'd drop the taskswitcher, and have the menu button replace it.
Totally. Samsung just need to come up with a marketing campaign based on this NOW. Showing vapid fashionistas wandering along with diamond studded iDevices (or iSheeple outside an Apple store) cut to laid back semi-hipster taking a pic, hitting the share button, posting an update, getting a notification the bus is 3 minutes away so he's got time to play a single level of randomAngryBirdsCloneThing, whilst listening to some music that's not 'too' hip that he's streaming. When the sheeple comment 'whoa, that's cool' the semi-hipster says 'not really, it just does what I want it to do the way I want it to do it' Samsung. Not cool, just functional. The current Samsung adverts aren't a million miles from that. I think they've got the angle, just need to keep working on it.
I miss this type of stuff on /,
Great to see actual geek stuff.
That 100million would be hard to lose for any company, but in this case, it's just helping their competitor's products look better. It'd hurt, but to sell your services to a company that's then turning around suing you for using your own services on YOUR platform has got to be something that an exec high up should say 'why are we helping our competitor this much?'
If you can browse the web, answer emails, play games, remote into a server, edit txt documents, email out those docs, work on spreadsheets, and generally load up programs onto storage, run them, use them, on your washing machine like you can on phones these days, then yes, that'd be a computer too. I can make phone calls on my computer, that doesn't change what it is. I've tried to make phone calls on my washing machine, but I find it's better voice clarity if I use the dryer, the dishwasher plays a great AngryBirds too.
I believe him.
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JooJoo Tablet came out before the iPad was even announced I believe. I keep hearing 'well, there wasn't anything like the iPad before the iPad came out' but there were devices that worked like it (though cheap and bad Chinese Android tablets), and tablets that /looked/ like the iPad (JooJoo tablet).
Samsung had similar designs in other places, I don't think it's a stretch of imagination to use those same designs in your own products, that someone else just happens to have also used. Though even then, hold a Samsung Android Tablet and an Apple tablet, and the difference is obvious.
Think this is the closest Apple's come yet to going after core Google. It's the search patent that appears to have snagged them. If they get this, they get every android phone currently out there and serve a continual warning to every potential Android licensee that if they even think of entering the Phone Market, they WILL be sued out of existence. Don't think even MS back in the day was ever as obviously aggressive as this.
For something that I've always suspected started as a way to negotiate cheaper component prices out of Samsung, Apple's really stirred up a poo storm.
Samsung? Contacts be damned, now's the time to stop shipping anything to your competitor who only wants to see you destroyed the second they can replace you.
Apple started the nerf bat swinging, never know who it'll take out in the end.
It's filled a gap, but with better apps, chrome being integrated now, time to let it retire gracefully.
Sure there'll be a way to sideload it just in case it is needed for something in particular.
That's the thing, when Jobs said it should die, many agreed, but to not (at the time) offer an alternative, wasn't the best way to handle it. The web moves on, html5 (and the browsers) are more common, standards are just about standardised.
Bye flash. Take a chair next to the blink tag over there.
As one of the techies there as things were being created daily in the last days of the FAA/early days of the TSA, I should write a book of my own from the trenches. The view from above really didn't match what was actually happening in the training, and many of the problems we face now are down to just a few chance events from the early days that became embedded in methods.
Such a chaotic time in my life, but worked with some of the hardest working people who were dedicated to the best job they could do (with the chaotic nature of the program trashing many a traditional project manager).
But it IS a decent book, well worth a read. Learned a lot myself. Just by mid 2002 onwards, anyone joining wasn't helping the madness going on, just layering on another level. It was far too late for any changes to effect positive change.
Odd it's written the way it was. Luckily, everyone on this site will understand Yoda speak.
Yup, we're going to go back to how things used to be, and much money was spent to get there.
The UK is to Europe as Florida is to TheSouth. Technically, geographically but culturally?
And, as hinted, to have this as an option in ALL laptops(heck, even desktops) that if you boot up with a phone attached, it passes control over to that. And/or, have an image to boot from the phone that runs inside Windows/MacOs/Linux. self contained VM that launches and uses phone resources (well, not a VM, a transposed machine).
You'd have the dock powered, charging the phone. (maybe even using the corporate wired network for security/speed reasons).
Check XDA, been running it for a fair few months now, it's very impressive (Cyanogenmod9)
The NZ authorities didn't have this information before? They've destroyed a company, cost the 'innocent until proven guilty' person great harm, and NZ hasn't even seen the evidence yet to allow the raid? Good grief.
Must be an odd position to be in where your competitor can take down the main thing you do. Ok, infringement obviously needs to be taken down quickly, but I can see there being a huge issue here later.
Is there something that matches this in Bing? And if there is, wonder how quickly Google will take down pirate apk sites.
Ok, had to pause a moment there. Doing a search for;
"free pirate android apps"
on google/bing produces wildly different results as you'd imagine. Wonder how this will go.
Not a lawyer here, but isn't that WHEN the rate is offered, you can't charge crazy amounts? Is there something that FORCES you to sell to your competitor?
ie, to stop FRAND applying, simple telling Apple 'sorry, we don't want you as a customer for our patents' is the thing the sammy lawyers are arguing here?
I think you can get a blue pill for that.
ANNNDD... it's now been reworded. Hope someone had a copy of the original page.