Microsoft: Hi, honey.
Mrs. Microsoft: Don't Hi Honey, me! Where were you yesterday?
Microsoft: Yesterday? Nowhere!
Mrs. Microsoft: Don't lie to me! You were with Napster.
Microsoft: I swear, we didn't do anything!
Mrs. Microsoft: Oh, just like you didn't to anything with Corel?! Don't talk to me. I don't even know who you are anymore. I want a divorce.
Human ambition, specifically the one that feeds our need for material wealth, is what has gotten us where we are. Did Ford create cars so he could be a hero, or so he could make wads of cash? Did that one dude that created the portable insulin thingy want to help the world, or did he want to patent it and sell the shit out of it across the globe?
The point is ambition is not evil. Ambition fuels progress.
As for me, money is not the most important thing in my life -- but it ranks up there. Once I have enough to buy one of these, I'll probaly change my tune.
The real reason these guys did well is simply that they were good, fast programmers and their competitors were not. It has nothing to do with Lisp.
Agreed. This was strictly a right-time/right-place situation. We're talking '95 here; I could have started www.pictures-of-buckets-of-shit.com, IPO'ed, and sold-out to Yahoo or AOL and become a millionaire just as easily. EVERYTHING was new and exciting and profitable.
I eagerly read every page of the article trying to determine how exactly Lisp had been used, and I did not find anything. The article is so incredibly vague; the author spends more time touting Lisp then trying to convince the reader of it's specific applicability to the realm of web programming.
If someone has some code they could post, or a web page or two, done in Lisp, that demonstrates it's ultra-coolness, I'd love to see it (not doubting it exists, I just want to see it to make my own judgement).
Side note: the (macros that right micros)* part sounds wicked cool. I never got to that point in my AI class.
Re:Don't anyone remember when we switched to PC?!?
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What was the reason learning DOS, learning to configure interrupts, loading drivers into HighMemory areas, learning to install Soundcards? We all bitched and moaned, but we did it!
Dude, this gave me a Tie Fighter flashback. What an awesome game (game of the year, a few years ago) but damn near impossible to get running! So many hacks and tricks...
the funny thing is that I did not say anything extremely opinionated for someone to disagree with! I was mostly asking a question aimed at those who had experience with it.:/
I have not worked with either (DX or OpenGL) toolkit, but I have seen their syntax differences and code conventions. I know also that DX gives you a slew of interfaces to all parts of a video game's design (sound, joystick, graphics, network) while OpenGL is only for 3d graphics (I know about OpenAL, but as long as they are not in the same package, the same downloadable, it does not matter). Obviously, a developer would rather deal with one library than half a dozen. Does this make DX more popular? (Is it more popular/used?) Is/has opengl losing/lost all of its early momentum? Has DX fixed the problems so many people complained about in it's early incarnations?
There is part of me that thinks that OpenGL would not even exist today (ie, it would not have been supported by card makers) had it not been for Id and Carmack's insistance on using it for the quake* series. How accurate is this?
As far as this announcement is concerned: if it works, great. If it gains acceptance, great. If installing/running games on linux will one day be as easy as it is on windows, great. But this is Wine-based... and how long have we been waiting for Wine to run things slightly more complex than notepad.exe at a decent clip? (No Wine flames, please. I will NOT download it for the billionth time)
All true, but are they really making money? I rarely see an ad there (not banner ad, mind you, but they're own form of search-related targetted ads). So are they still going off of vc, or do the few ads I see cover the bills?
I really like to hear that companies that do so much for so little are doing well, such as google, or trolltech. I just worry for their actual business and the talented developers they employ...
I guess they're doing OK if they added 4000 machines...
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Also this. Small part, but they were in there (and they were disgusting)
If cloning of spare parts is allowed, how many parts == a human? Ie, if a guy has his foot amputated, I can cook him up a new foot. If his leg is amputated, then surely I can cook him up a foot attached to a leg.
Well, how far can I take this? What if the guy is mostly gone, can I make him legs, arms, torso, etc? How many parts can I grow together before someone says "hey!"
I would guess that a brain is what makes a human, but if only a guy's head is left, I doubt the public would buy creating headless human bodies (that would be freaky!) In that case though, why not create the parts one by one to avoid public/congressional objections?
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You can't really compare these two as projects, because they have completely different goals. Mozilla has to work on 3 different platforms. When Mozilla was started, there was no mature widget set that they could use for the Mac, Win, and *nix, so they had to build their own (in the form of XUL/JS) while they were building the app that used it! (Also note that this UI system was built optimized for Win32)
The Mozilla project is also focused on embedding their layout engine into other products, such as the upcoming AOL for linux release. They've also built a really nice email client too, which is on-par with most other free email clients, such as outlook express.
Konqueror, while a really cool web browser, has had just one goal: surf the web, on unix, on X, and on KDE2.
Side note: due to the excellent design of both these projects, we can now expect a mozilla KPart, that we can use to browse the web through konqueror using the mozilla layout/js engines, very soon now! I think it's already in the works...
Just sneak into the movie theaters! If you buy some popcorn while you're in, you're in fact supporting the theater while cheating the movie studio (since theaters make pretty much no money on ticket sales; it's all from $8.50 popcorn)
(It would be very nice to see.edu domains that aren't only 4-year colleges, too, so I hope that happens.)
I'd like to see it given to only accredited universities, actually..edu has come to signify something, just like.com has. If you start giving it to every other "online university" or other sillyness, then you diminish the.edu title, and soon you'll have things like www.hard-knox.edu.
I was just discussing with my friend movies that are so "bad" that they go all the way back around into "good". My key point: Beastmaster (the movie, not the horrendous TV show).
(I dont think Dude, where's my car? made it back into "good" though.)
Duplication of already existing database and HTTP libraries in QT doesn't help the time and thrashing it already takes to load any QT program.
I think it's nice that if my GUI will work on a machine, then I can also be sure that I can do HTTP or DB or everything else non-GUI related in Qt. It's all on the same library, so instead of requiring 8 different libraries for your app, you require 1.
As for the memory requirements, C++, in my experience, is slower/bigger than C, no doubt there. But that has not stopped pretty much EVERY commercial application (I forgot the actual numbers) from using it, because it just lends itself better to good design principles. (I think you're exaggerating anyway, but I'll trade.8 more seconds of start up time for the power of a rich, clean, well-designed, well-documented, object-oriented, portable Qt anyday.)
Awe damn, now look what I've done. I've responded to a toolkit troll with a language troll! Be gentle on me....:P --
Neither is this post, but these too are honest questions:
Why should I choose Vi over Emacs? I mean, more people use Emacs.
Why should I use MySQL over SQL server?
Why should I use Linux over Windows2K? I mean, clearly more companies support windows.
My point: you know damn well when your posts are flame-bait, especially when the reason you give for something is "more people do it than the other", so dont bother saying they are not.
Why would anyone eat pizza? It so incredibly lame, not to mention it's frequent stability problems! People that eat pizza obviously do not want any real food.
I prefer hamburgers. If you haven't tried one lately, I suggest you go get yesterday's or today's version. Very nice!
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Dude, Edit->Preferences->Appearance->
and I quote:
When Mozilla starts up, open
_ Navigator
_ Composer
X Mozilla Mail
end quote.
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Microsoft: Hi, honey.
Mrs. Microsoft: Don't Hi Honey, me! Where were you yesterday?
Microsoft: Yesterday? Nowhere!
Mrs. Microsoft: Don't lie to me! You were with Napster.
Microsoft: I swear, we didn't do anything!
Mrs. Microsoft: Oh, just like you didn't to anything with Corel?! Don't talk to me. I don't even know who you are anymore. I want a divorce.
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I've said it before, I'll say it again: any OS that runs vim, I'll use. After all, I spend most of my 18 hour days staring at.
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I really need some of what you're smoking.
Human ambition, specifically the one that feeds our need for material wealth, is what has gotten us where we are. Did Ford create cars so he could be a hero, or so he could make wads of cash? Did that one dude that created the portable insulin thingy want to help the world, or did he want to patent it and sell the shit out of it across the globe?
The point is ambition is not evil. Ambition fuels progress.
As for me, money is not the most important thing in my life -- but it ranks up there. Once I have enough to buy one of these, I'll probaly change my tune.
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So... do AOL stockholder's know their CEO slept his way to the top?
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Have a look here:
www.digipen.edu
In addition to other media, they have a few courses in game design.
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The real reason these guys did well is simply that they were good, fast programmers and their competitors were not. It has nothing to do with Lisp.
Agreed. This was strictly a right-time/right-place situation. We're talking '95 here; I could have started www.pictures-of-buckets-of-shit.com, IPO'ed, and sold-out to Yahoo or AOL and become a millionaire just as easily. EVERYTHING was new and exciting and profitable.
I eagerly read every page of the article trying to determine how exactly Lisp had been used, and I did not find anything. The article is so incredibly vague; the author spends more time touting Lisp then trying to convince the reader of it's specific applicability to the realm of web programming.
If someone has some code they could post, or a web page or two, done in Lisp, that demonstrates it's ultra-coolness, I'd love to see it (not doubting it exists, I just want to see it to make my own judgement).
Side note: the (macros that right micros)* part sounds wicked cool. I never got to that point in my AI class.
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It's hat-eating time for me...
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What was the reason learning DOS, learning to configure interrupts, loading drivers into HighMemory areas, learning to install Soundcards? We all bitched and moaned, but we did it!
Dude, this gave me a Tie Fighter flashback. What an awesome game (game of the year, a few years ago) but damn near impossible to get running! So many hacks and tricks...
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So... it seems that you disagreed with everything I said. Disagreement != troll.
:)
don't you think it would have been better to bash my points as you've done above, so that others would read that instead and become informed?
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thanks. :)
:/
the funny thing is that I did not say anything extremely opinionated for someone to disagree with! I was mostly asking a question aimed at those who had experience with it.
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Does OpenGL have one foot in the grave?
I have not worked with either (DX or OpenGL) toolkit, but I have seen their syntax differences and code conventions. I know also that DX gives you a slew of interfaces to all parts of a video game's design (sound, joystick, graphics, network) while OpenGL is only for 3d graphics (I know about OpenAL, but as long as they are not in the same package, the same downloadable, it does not matter). Obviously, a developer would rather deal with one library than half a dozen. Does this make DX more popular? (Is it more popular/used?) Is/has opengl losing/lost all of its early momentum? Has DX fixed the problems so many people complained about in it's early incarnations?
There is part of me that thinks that OpenGL would not even exist today (ie, it would not have been supported by card makers) had it not been for Id and Carmack's insistance on using it for the quake* series. How accurate is this?
As far as this announcement is concerned: if it works, great. If it gains acceptance, great. If installing/running games on linux will one day be as easy as it is on windows, great. But this is Wine-based... and how long have we been waiting for Wine to run things slightly more complex than notepad.exe at a decent clip? (No Wine flames, please. I will NOT download it for the billionth time)
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All true, but are they really making money? I rarely see an ad there (not banner ad, mind you, but they're own form of search-related targetted ads). So are they still going off of vc, or do the few ads I see cover the bills?
I really like to hear that companies that do so much for so little are doing well, such as google, or trolltech. I just worry for their actual business and the talented developers they employ...
I guess they're doing OK if they added 4000 machines...
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Also this. Small part, but they were in there (and they were disgusting)
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If cloning of spare parts is allowed, how many parts == a human? Ie, if a guy has his foot amputated, I can cook him up a new foot. If his leg is amputated, then surely I can cook him up a foot attached to a leg.
Well, how far can I take this? What if the guy is mostly gone, can I make him legs, arms, torso, etc? How many parts can I grow together before someone says "hey!"
I would guess that a brain is what makes a human, but if only a guy's head is left, I doubt the public would buy creating headless human bodies (that would be freaky!) In that case though, why not create the parts one by one to avoid public/congressional objections?
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if he didn't want to clean his room or do his homework, neither would his clones
Looks like someone can't control his clones.
My clones will like what I tell them to like!
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Someone should patent patents and then not give any more out.
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Damn, you beat me to it.
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You can't really compare these two as projects, because they have completely different goals. Mozilla has to work on 3 different platforms. When Mozilla was started, there was no mature widget set that they could use for the Mac, Win, and *nix, so they had to build their own (in the form of XUL/JS) while they were building the app that used it! (Also note that this UI system was built optimized for Win32)
The Mozilla project is also focused on embedding their layout engine into other products, such as the upcoming AOL for linux release. They've also built a really nice email client too, which is on-par with most other free email clients, such as outlook express.
Konqueror, while a really cool web browser, has had just one goal: surf the web, on unix, on X, and on KDE2.
Side note: due to the excellent design of both these projects, we can now expect a mozilla KPart, that we can use to browse the web through konqueror using the mozilla layout/js engines, very soon now! I think it's already in the works...
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Just sneak into the movie theaters! If you buy some popcorn while you're in, you're in fact supporting the theater while cheating the movie studio (since theaters make pretty much no money on ticket sales; it's all from $8.50 popcorn)
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(It would be very nice to see .edu domains that aren't only 4-year colleges, too, so I hope that happens.)
.edu has come to signify something, just like .com has. If you start giving it to every other "online university" or other sillyness, then you diminish the .edu title, and soon you'll have things like www.hard-knox.edu.
I'd like to see it given to only accredited universities, actually.
I could be crazy though....
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I was just discussing with my friend movies that are so "bad" that they go all the way back around into "good". My key point: Beastmaster (the movie, not the horrendous TV show).
(I dont think Dude, where's my car? made it back into "good" though.)
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Duplication of already existing database and HTTP libraries in QT doesn't help the time and thrashing it already takes to load any QT program.
.8 more seconds of start up time for the power of a rich, clean, well-designed, well-documented, object-oriented, portable Qt anyday.)
:P
I think it's nice that if my GUI will work on a machine, then I can also be sure that I can do HTTP or DB or everything else non-GUI related in Qt. It's all on the same library, so instead of requiring 8 different libraries for your app, you require 1.
As for the memory requirements, C++, in my experience, is slower/bigger than C, no doubt there. But that has not stopped pretty much EVERY commercial application (I forgot the actual numbers) from using it, because it just lends itself better to good design principles. (I think you're exaggerating anyway, but I'll trade
Awe damn, now look what I've done. I've responded to a toolkit troll with a language troll! Be gentle on me....
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This is not meant to be flame-bait
Neither is this post, but these too are honest questions:
Why should I choose Vi over Emacs? I mean, more people use Emacs.
Why should I use MySQL over SQL server?
Why should I use Linux over Windows2K? I mean, clearly more companies support windows.
My point: you know damn well when your posts are flame-bait, especially when the reason you give for something is "more people do it than the other", so dont bother saying they are not.
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If you like pizza, eat it.
Why would anyone eat pizza? It so incredibly lame, not to mention it's frequent stability problems! People that eat pizza obviously do not want any real food.
I prefer hamburgers. If you haven't tried one lately, I suggest you go get yesterday's or today's version. Very nice!
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