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Educational Consortium Will Control .edu Domains
PxT writes: "According to this Reuters story, the U.S. government is going to hand over control of .edu to an association of 1800 college IT departments. Anything is better than Verisign ..." I wonder how long VeriSign cried over this move, considering that it probably wasn't very lucrative to administer .edu names. (It would be very nice to see .edu domains that aren't only 4-year colleges, too, so I hope that happens.)
Corporations control .COM? No shit!
Perhaps we should turn it over to a non-profit coalition of porno-spammers?
After a domain name that was registered with them expires, they hold onto it themselves, presumably to auction off at a later date.
Urban legend.
Not an urban legend. I can confirm they did this to one of my domains. They also screwed up my password so they would not permit me to edit my nameserver addresses. They refused to believe my photo ID and company letterhead I faxed them in order to try to get it back under my control. My domain was immediately sold to a domain squatter/speculator three full days before it expired and I still haven't been able to get it back... this happened two years ago.
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I have a .edu address at work... @getty.edu
.edu
We are a non-profit arts and education organization, not a school, and we operate under a
Posted that one already, but here it is again
www.toronto.edu
That would just require registration with whoever owns ny.us, not .us.
My universities slogan is "Ball State University, Everything You Need." Yeah, i'ts everything you need, well, if you need a big penis bell tower that is being built for the sole purpose of being taller than purdue's, and as long as you don't need a well respected degree. :P
And our best radio station is at wber.monroe.edu!
(small world)
Search first, ask questions later.
There are astronomical institutions which are not degree-granting, but are in the .edu domain.
www.noao.edu, www.stsci.edu, www.nrao.edu...It would be very nice to see .edu domains that aren't only 4-year colleges, too, so I hope that happens.
.edu than would a high school.
I don't know about these restrictions you speak of, but my high school has had a domain name since 1992.
We also probably have the best high school connection to the Internet, with a dedicated 100MBit line, courtesy of Cablevision.
I'd say the lack of 2-year colleges with domain names is just a reflection of their IT departments' interest in the Internet. I don't imagine they'd have any more trouble registering a
A school doesn't have to be "4-year" to be accredited.
Another thing to think about: The transfer of .com/.net/.org required the involvement of ICANN (and unfortunately NSI too). Yet, here the DoC is making policy decisions on their own without any ICANN involvement. So, why couldn't the DoC make the decision about the VeriSign agreement? Or even better - why can't the DoC decide to add new TLDs without ICANN??
Many high schools have .edu's (andover.edu), as do other educational institutions. Check out www.nols.edu and www.cobs.edu.
How about Linuxgruven.edu?
I don't know why others don't, though. I wouldn't have trouble believing that it is harder for a 2 year college to get a
Don't you people watch TV?? You think the "DeVry Institute" is a 4 year college?
There's also lacademy.edu--Lawrence Academy in Groton, MA. Great hockey program. Not a lot else, though.
Well, we aren't a 4-year school and we have an edu domain (scripps.edu). However, we got our domain way before Network Solutions took over administration of domains. Then again, we grant PhD degrees which take more than 4 years usually.
But I am sure glad that the edu domain is not in the hands of a commercial entity any longer. Let's hope that the rules for getting an edu domain will be relaxed to allow any accredited degree granting institution.
they held one of my domains for 5 months until a cybersquatter picked it up. and no - i couldnt register it again either.
Me too. Perhaps I should have said 'formal high school'?
My high school has an edu domain. 4 year colleges??
http://www.bxscience.edu/
it.edu belongs to a danish university.
Unable to read configuration file '/bigassraid/htdig//conf/14229.conf'
Geocrawler error message.
mpyfc.edu
.edu domain, and they aren't even a school.
Metro Pittsburgh Youth for Christ was able to sevure an
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I am the webmaster for a high school and I've had a very hard time trying to register a new domain. Our existing web site has a really long url. This is much too long for anybody who is normal to remember. Thus we would like to reserve ourschool.edu. It is available, and I have tried to register online twice. It has been like I have never even tried; I received no mail whatsoever. When I called their 800 number, I was put on hold for an extended time and punted around to different numbers. Ultimately, I was told that high schools cannot register .edu domains when I know this to be false. I know of many schools much like my own which have this type of domain. They include but are not limited to stuy.edu, bxscience.edu, bhs.edu, mbhs.edu, tjhsst.edu, bths.edu, and damien.edu. http://www.wednet.edu/ and lane.edu aren't even real schools. It is completely unfair that elite schools like Stuyvesant and Bronx High School of Science get to be at the forefront of this technology revolution.
I sent an email to them and never actually got a response either. Maybe this new initiative will allow other schools to get domains.
Oh well, more people can lurch in on the .edu domain. Maybe some colleges should switch to .com, then. Makes sense, we're giving them money for a service they provide...
Is there an OldSchool tie?
Or check out http://www.gia.edu, which is basically a trade school.
Oh, British students do that too. I had an extra special snigger about that when, at school, we were browsing brochures selecting universities for applications.
In the UK, we have separate domains for schools and colleges/universities. Schools are in schoolname.borough.sch.uk *, while universities are at universityname.ac.uk. This seems to work quite well, I think, especially since there are lots of schools with the same name, especially those named after christian saints.
* A borough is an area governed by a particular local council, although in the case where a county is quite small, a whole county may have the same council and I presume share the same school domain.
Yeah, but you can't get a "trusted" Verisign cert for a .us domain--only for .com, .net, and .org (last I looked; I suppose they're prolly allowing some other domains now). For that reason, my high school went from .pvt.k12.me.us to .org. The CIO there is pretty big into standards, which is prolly why we didn't get the .com (which was open at the time of the .org purchase) or the .edu (which, at least according to some RFCs I've seen but am too lazy to look up, is supposed to be only for four-year, accredited, post-secondary institutions).
or a museum?
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don't forget NCSSM and IMSA. There really are a lot of high schools that got their .edu's early. I think I remember hearing that sometime after '95 or something that .edu would only be given to colleges and universites, and the high schools that already had .edu registrants would be grandfathered and could keep them.
My first internet account was through our local community college which was a 2 year college with a .edu domain. It recently turned 4 year, but it had a .edu domain for years before that was even planned. Did the rules change at some point?
there is also www.stgeorges.edu my esteemed high school. Seems only the Private schools got the pull (or cash) to get the .edu
There are several joke posts about non-4-year college programs getting .edu names. Sadly, to some of us, this isn't a joke. I am a high school webmaster. I've tried several times to get an xyz.edu name. I am always rebuffed by the registrar; they say I must be a 4-year college to apply. Yet, non-colleges like stuy.edu and bxscience.edu have their names, and even less-reputable things like data centers have a .edu. My question is, do you have to know somebody at internic/verisign to get a .edu name? Because I sure have been trying, and it sure hasn't been working.
I always wanted to register edu.edu and start a school to educate people on their education options. Meta-education is the perfect net.cause!
Yes, I realize it's taken. But that happened between this posting and your reading. Someone clearly just read my post and registered it to make millions off my idea. Luckily, I patented it first.
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I go to a 2 year community college (for about 6 more weeks, and then I transfer to a real college) here in Columbus (Columbus State Community College) and they have cscc.edu. I wonder how that slipped by their 4 year college rule. Actually I'm not really going to lose sleep over it, but the article piqued my attention for a few seconds :)
My high school (Loyola High School of Los Angeles) has a .edu...
.edu
www.loyolahs.edu
Of course.. the only reason we have it is because we were so (excuse the cliche) "ahead of the times," that we registered it before the whole 4 year college rule came about... As a result, we have the distinct privilage of being one of the few non 4 year colleges with a
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a) because america invented the internet b) uhh wait a minute www.planet.edu isnt in america, wtf you talking about willis?
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I've got a friend who's been trying to get "hardknocks.edu" for years, but he couldn't since he isn't a school. :) Since they are apparently relaxing restrictions, does anyone know what it will now take to qualify for a .edu?
Look at andover.edu, exeter.edu, choate.edu, deerfield.edu, and sps.edu Private High Schools all. That's 9-12. Not 4 year colleges by any stretch.
How about the .edu domain name for every school in the world ?
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How long till the wall up all the .edu servers behind drywall? I can see the press release now "Novel Assists Colleges in tracing location of .edu domain...."
Well its been running fine for four years.....
Hrm amusing the local community college here has a .edu monroecc.edu.
Our county k-12 system has a .edu also monroe.edu
Check your facts please 8)
I think that it's more that the policy has not been enforced, rather than it having been repealed. I know that their are now primary and secondary schools with .edu domains, as well as non-American institutions. I suspect that this is basically keeping with the spirit of the original naming convention, rather than the letter. After all, when the TLDs were first created nobody would have considered that any school but a fairly serious university would even be able to connect to the net, much less want to have their own address. I'm sure that the idea of kindergardeners needing their own address was the last thing on the designers mind when they were coming up with the naming scheme way back when.
There's no point in questioning authority if you aren't going to listen to the answers.
Here at the University of Louisville we have the (advertising) slogan "Dare to be Great". This has sparked parodies such as "Dare to be Stupid".
Some how those parodies don't have the irony of "America's Next Great University". It brings a message of "Eeehh, we are not so great yet. But by the time you graduate, we will really kick ass!"
Besides, we have Pitino now. So I don't think that UK deserves basketball.edu. Although we might get pitino.edu and rename the school to University of Pitino.
The state of Delaware hosts spaces for high-schools... For example, here's the clunkily designed webpage for my old high school. It looks like other states do the same things -- here, for example, is the homepage for the football team of Butte, Idaho -- the BUTTE PIRATES.
Small potatoes make the steak look bigger.
I'm one of the network admins for ECPI, an information tech school (like ITT only better) on the east coast. We're not a 4-year institution. The longest program we have takes only two years, and that's if you take night classes (16 months for day classes). We have an .edu suffix. Look us up at www.ecpi.edu.
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Heh... the Exploratorium rules! :)
Actually it's pretty simple. It's because we here in America pioneered the Internet. Or at least our Government and Higher Learning Institutions spearheaded its development. So we got to pick the names. So neener to all you foreigners. - W
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What the hell do you think the current system is? http://www.vusd.solanocoe.k12.ca.us/Wood/
Were that I say, pancakes?
Then how does Foothill-De Anza Community College have it's own site?
2+2=4, silly.
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I used to be the webmaster for a junior college (ie. an AA/AS degree college). I tried to register the .edu variation but couldn't. TJHS must have been grandfathered in before the JBTs at Network$olutions changed the policy to a minimum standard of being an accredited four-year BA/BS degree school.
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Time to break internic's rules: Wouldn't be the first time. Some time back there was a guy who managed to pull off registering "Miskatonic.edu" Dunno if they ever figured it out and pulled it, tho. "You dare to skip my lecture! To the bottomless pit with you!"
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santarosa.edu is the page of "the harvard of the west," or the Santa Rosa Junior College...a great two year school. Check out gracie.santarosa.edu.
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Milwaukee Public Museum (NOT a 4-year college) fyi
.EDU is not limited to american universities. In fact my university here in portugal has a .EDU (www.ist.edu) registered since a long time ago, as well as the more usual www.ist.utl.pt
You cannot proceed from the informal to formal by formal means
Looks like the same entity controlls all of the state.us domain. Take a look at www.nic.us Looking at the page closer... "The US Domain Registry is administered by VeriSign, Inc." Hmm...
Stupid like a fox!
some charge outrageous fees (>$400/yr) to register
.us domain for free. I'm not sure exactly, but I know a friend of mine owns chinatown.ny.us or some such, and registered it for free (no dirty hacking involved).
Actually, I believe you can reigster a
Stupid like a fox!
For those of you who are big H.P.Lovecraft fans, it's interesting to note that Miskatonic.edu has been taken since before '96....
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Right now, there is a descrepancy in the .edu domain. Once upon a time, community colleges could get a .edu, and I think something like 25% were able to do so before a restriction was put in place limiting edu to 4 year universities and colleges.
EDUCAUSE (the group taking over), has stated that they intend to open the space back up to smaller colleges like community and county.
I hope these new people loosen up. Right now to get a .edu domain name you need to be a like 4 year college or something. Our K-12 school district *doesn't* count. So we have to get a special organization to give us a virtual host that we have to run the whole district off of. Instead of each school having a sub domain. But I still hope they dont go too far to where people can get "crack_is_good_for_you.edu".
If they run it like my school runs our IT department this is a scary proposition.
http://www.vusd.solanocoe.k12.ca.us/Wood/ so in the uk it would be http://www.school_here.range_of_education.whatever _the_fuck_you_divide_your_regions_into.uk/Wood/
dumbass
wow you really are slow aren't you? just change the correct parts. Last I checked every country that wanted one, has a country code. therefore you just change the correct parts. so the .us or .uk could become .in or .ca or .tv, there now that I've explaned it in simple terms do you understand?
That's just it, every .us region/state/whatever is different, and can set whatever policies they want, good or bad.
If people are "so used" to .com, they're morons. The internet is a rich quilt of variation, not a mindless drone of profitmaking enterprises. A .org address is for a non-profit organization. A school is not a non-profit organization, it is an educational organization. If you want to take the extra time to be right, there is a K-12 heirarchy in the .us TLD that is the correct place for most American primary and secondary schools. Taking the quick and easy way out sets a bad example, pollutes the namespace even more, and leads to the Dark Side.
How's that for nasty?
That's not true. They're currently holding two of my domains. They say that I'm the last person to register them, nobody else has registered them, yet I can't register the domain names again through any other registrar.
And I agree that they're not a monopoly. The poster just asked why everybody hates Verisgn/NS. They did screw me over for a while, but I've since stopped using them, so I generally don't bitch about them any more. They lost all of my business.
What every one has failed to notice, is that .edu is a a "global
TLD", just like his brethren .com, .org, .net, and their
kid brother .int. Just take a look at
RFC 1591
for the definitions. This is the section about .edu:
I wonder what will DoC's decision mean to universities outside US who use their--
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I assume that not every single one of them will look at applications, but still, it sounds as if we'll have beuracratic peoples dealing with domains now. I mean, at University At Buffalo, Clubs can't even sell tickets to their own events. They have to go through the student assoc. to sell them.
Is endless red-tape something we want to invite to the internet? Or did I just waste my breath?
01101001 01100001 01101101 01101110 01101111 01110100 01100001 01101100 01100001 01110111 01111001 01100101 01110010
Isn't .edu domains controlled by NCSA, and not Verisign?
"correcting" TLD's to have true classifications is a Bad Thing ®. IMO, it will create more problems than it fixes. Was Andover.net really a network provider? Slashdot probably doesn't make any profit, so couldn't they technically remain a .org, and if not for that reason, be grandfathered because the original intent was nonprofit?
As far as I'm concerned, there should be dozens of generic TLD's with no REAL classification, and just a handful that are actually meaningful -- .edu and .sex (or .xxx) come to mind right away for me.
Furthermore, to make these rules even handed, wouldn't this also mean that .edu's would be ineligible to register other TLD's?
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Well, since I've disabled cookies, I guess I can't read Law.com's website from my work computer. Guess I'll just have to skip yet another interesting read, all because someone wants to know what I read online. Anyone know of a .edu website with a mirror of the page? ;)
'nuff sed
Same with sunyacc.edu
I think it is just a good idea to get things like that out of the hands of people like Verisign and ginving the power to the people who are using the domains. After all, Micro$oft has enough of a hand around all college computer labs across the US.
IMHO the UK has done it better. You cannot register an educational domain (ac.uk / sch.uk) by yourself. They are automatically created by the local education authority for schools, and by JANET for universities. Your domain is provided when your establishment is founded, and most schools / unis are under state funding. The only downside is the fact that some places have got the wrong order, a domain but not a website
IT is not only 4 year colleges, my scholl system has a .edu along with atleast 3 schools in my county.
georgewashingtonhs.edu
georgewashingtonhs-springfield.edu
georgewashingtonhs-springfield-oh.edu
georgewashingtonhs-springfield-il.edu
etc. etc.
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(It would be very nice to see .edu domains that aren't only 4-year colleges, too, so I hope that happens.)
.edu site. And of course all the strip-mall storefront academys of hairdressing.
.edu domain, even if they are just get-rich schemes to capture the money from people not even qualified for a MSCE.
Yeah. There's a 'School of Massage' in Northeast Minneapolis that should get an
And all those ads on late night TV. They should point to an
Uh-huh.
greatest books??
uh....
Since I have Katz articles blocked on my account, I guess I assumed he'd already written several articles examining the ramifications of this change.
Scrap all the .edu, .net, .com, .gov and .mil TLDs and bring on the .us TLD!
Last time I looked, .edu was for educational institutions anywhere in the world just like .com, and .org
www.palomar.edu It's a two-year community college that operates in northern San Diego, CA.
FWIW, the Thomas Jefferson High School for Science and Technology serves a 900 square-mile area of Northern Virginia outside of Washington, D.C. (three counties and several cities -- some cities may have bailed on the program since it started in 1986). When the first class graduated in 1989, many had problems getting into college because their geeky courses had non-standard names (POT -- principles of technology; POM -- principles of mathematics; plenty of us freaked out our folks when we said we had POT for third period ;-). This place is/was geek heaven -- I think there were only three or four fights during my time there, no one was ever picked on unless they really asked for it. I graduated from the third class (1991), back when I only had to beat out two or three kids for one of the 400 spots in my class. I hear that somewhere between 10 and 20 kids now compete for a spot since everyone's parents make them apply these days. When I graduated, my class split into four quarters: those going to UVA, those going to Virginia Tech, those going to William & Mary, and those going to other big name schools. Before the trolls start saying, "So? Like this matters?" I should roll out the quick laundry list of selling points. They had a supercomputer in 1988 (the county didn't have the money to fix the fiber optic line when the roof started leaking about five years ago and I'm not sure if they ever fixed it). Two of the guys who won the supercomputer placed in the state wrestling tournament (one kicked my butt regularly for two years). My buddies were doing insane things with 3D graphics back when most of the world hadn't seen Windows yet. Everyone has to take four years of math (with AP calculus to graduate), four years of science (bio, chem, physics, geoscience), they get their history and English combined into humanities (what a concept ... teach both at the same time with two teachers), and I believe TJ was one of the pioneers of the activity period. Also, imagine going to odd classes on one day for twice as long and even-numbered periods on another day for twice as long. The American education system could learn quite a bit from good ole' TJHSST.edu. Anyone from TJ on /.? Drop me a line. I wouldn't be surprised if they were on the Internet before most colleges, but that was after my time.
Even superheroes once were losers
Who cares about tlds? What you should be complaining about are the Class A subnets!
I work for a private school that has a .edu.
So it's not been limited all the time to higher ed.
crimeny. We agree to mix our
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hawk
fernbank.edu - a science center.
There are others I can't think of right now that are not colleges, but major education type places (like...you know - starting to sound like totatally a val girl)
Somewhere deep within NSI's web pages, nigh impossible to find, is something that says you must be an accredited 4 year school to get an .edu. (Or you must grant bachelor degrees - usually 4 years)
.edu as well as .org.
.EDU Web Address?
.EDU domain are reserved for colleges and
.EDU Web Address. Graduate programs, remote campuses, etc.,
.EDU Web Address of their own. Instead, they should obtain
.EDU TLD register their Web Addresses under the .ORG
.US.
Below is what it said when I last found it, as our music hall attached to our campus wanted to get
14. What are the guidelines for registering an
Registrations in the
universities that grant degrees at the bachelor, master and doctoral
level, or its foreign equivalent. Each college or university may register
only one
cannot obtain a
a third-level domain beneath the second-level domain of their institution.
Inquiries should be directed to the registrant of the second-level domain.
If the college or university registering the Web Address meets this
criteria, it must provide a brief explanation of the kinds of degrees
awarded under "Purpose/Description" on the registration form.
Many foundations, institutions, consortia, centers, etc., that have
educational missions but don't meet the criteria for a Web Address
registration in the
TLD. K-12 schools and community colleges are typically registered under
country domains such as
Check out www.toronto.edu
Wonder how that one slipped through...
Verisign receives part of your registration fee, no matter what registrar you use. I think it's something like $7 per year per domain, which is probably mostly profit for Verisign.
(It would be very nice to see .edu domains that aren't only 4-year colleges, too, so I hope that happens) My older and twin brothers go to this community school http://www.mdcc.edu/ I guess they did not get thier facts straight
If I will be able to register Armageddon .edu now?
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I assume you already knew about Hamburger University, but hey, just in case you didn't..
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Hamburger University
I've cruised the campus before, it's very nice--even has a full golf course. They actually do have courses on Working the Fry Basket, although they don't offer them as distance-learning
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this
My question then becomes what happens to places like Stuy which are not four years colleges but which do have a
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Check out www.exeter.edu
This is a prep high school, sister school to Andover of Bush family fame...
wake up and find out that you are the eyes of the world.
universities are at universityname.ac.uk
This gave us a small amount of amusement when as (American) university students, we would download things from a mirror at Imperial College. Spoken aloud, of course, their domain is "Ick Ack Uck". :-)
You cannot apply a technological solution to a sociological problem. (Edwards' Law)
...assigned according to their geographic location, if you're talking about high schools and the like. Something like nameofschool.city.state.us seems to be common. Likewise for community colleges.
Putting anything that calls itself a school into an .edu domain would be utterly chaotic. Even leaving aside Dimator's very good point about how .edu ought to mean something (frex, accredited schools), you're still faced with half a kazillion public schools all named "Central High School," all of which will be offended if they aren't www.central.edu.
You cannot apply a technological solution to a sociological problem. (Edwards' Law)
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My two-year college had an .edu TLD, as do many others.
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High schools can use .edu. Check out Thomas Jefferson High School.
You mean like a museum?
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What a concept. That means that .net should be given to network admin consortiums and .gov should be given to the government. Oh .gov already is. So it's only the 'little guy' that is still under the control of corporations? Figures.
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Alumnists include just about everyone. And we have campuses all around the world. Although, not a 4 year college, more like a lifetime one. Credit transfers are automatic, and you do not need a thesis to graduate!
Too me,it seems that "teaching" someone to think is a bit of an oxymoron. Teaching seems to be a type of manipulation, no matter how well intentioned, seems to be be incompatable with the idea of indepedent thought.
That is, when you teach people to think, you are always going to teach them, in some subtle way, to think how(and by extension, what) to think. And thus you aren't teaching thought at all.
Hopefully I didn't put any [] around my words.
I actually modded you up for that first post for Katy a few weeks ago...as offtopic and ridiculous as it was, young love (or old love,for all I know) is so sweet+cute, I really had to reward you. I got metamodded down for it, too.
Hopefully I didn't put any [] around my words.
Am I really that ignorant of the English language? Where, when and how did the word "education" come to mean "accredited 4 year university"? What, exactly did all these accredited four year universities do to lay sole claim to the title of "education"? Unless "education" now means "bullshit, more bullshit, date rape and drunk driving" I don't think that the four year universities should be in sole possesion of the .edu
So, to put it more mildly, I don't see why four year universities should have sole rights to the .edu domain. I am happy that four year colleges and non-traditional schools may also be able to get it.
Hopefully I didn't put any [] around my words.
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It also notes how Verisign does state that it was eager to give up the domain.
You honestly think a group of 1800 college IT departments is going to do something better than a single government agency? First, remember that a high percentage of this group will be state schools. Second, have you read some of the horror stories here in recent months about the Use Policies and the behavior of some of these instititutions? At least at the State schools the local state constitution has some bearing on their behavior but a private school...
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Don't you mean IMHO? On Slashdot (oops, I mean /.) you're supposed to use acronyms whenever possible!
The .us TLD is extremely hard to get domains registered into. Many contacts refuse to answer email regarding their areas of responsibility, and some charge outrageous fees (>$400/yr) to register. All in all, the .us TLD is a bust, in my humble opinion.
I'm glad only accredited 4-year institutions are supposed to get .edu domains. I was once requested to register an .edu for an MCSE-generating mill, one of the places that promises if you spend $5000 on its classes, that you will pass the MCSE exam or your money back, plus you got a free palm III for registering. I tried to register it with Internic (the only registrar at the time), and was asked to provide documentation for their accreditation status. I let the salesdroid know about it, and the customer ended up getting the same name with a .com instead. Entirely more appropriate, in my opinion.
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NinjaTux(.edu): the low latency attack software of the millenium of hackers. Access it now at www.kernel.org via the hypertext transfer protocol. Tuxedo not included, Although one will look good on you at your trial.
(oh, and please, mod up the article I responded to. It is funken funny stuff!)
Please remove BOOGERS when sending me eMail. Thankyou...
Sincerely,
But I'm sure you already Gnu that.
hey nobody has perl.edu y'know... If I had the resources to build such a site I would but I don't so maybe someone else should...
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The way to see by faith is to shut the eye of reason. --Ben Franklin
that's right, www.krustyclowncollege.edu
It's about time he got the recognition he deserves for his contributions to American comedy...
Given the changes, I'm petitioning the board for my domain to register my college's domain: sex.edu
:)
And yes, I will be providing a four-year degree.
Invisible Agent
Invisible Agent
This post is a mirror; when a monkey stares in, no hacker gazes out.
Uh.... do a whois on oxford.edu, glasgow.edu, kingston.edu, mcgill.edu
Sorry - that's about my limit on non-us college knowledge - not even enough for a full Jeapordy category.
There have been many institutions over the years with .edu domains that are not accredited 4-year academic institutions. Museums, research facilities, schools without 4-year programs, there are numerous examples of all of these (thank you, we don't need every /.'er noting the dozen closest to them.)
Either Reuters has simply gotten their 'facts' wrong (gee - a misreported tech story? Never!) or the enforcement of the 4-year policy has been innefectual.
Frankly I'm inclined to believe that either this supposed policy is a relatively recent one or there's a lot of details that have been omitted. In any case the Reuters story is clearly innacurate.
I don't read ACs: If a post isn't worth so much as a nom de plume to its author then I wont bother either.
Well, the internationalization of TLDs such as COM has been only a relatively recent development. In fact, several of the top-level TLDs are reserved for the United States, in particular, GOV, MIL, and (as you pointed out) EDU. The others (COM especially) have traditionally been dominated by US organizations.
Furthermore, the administration of the US domain is a bureaucratic mess, despite the (in my mind) wonderful structural scheme that's present in it. Also, it doesn't quite have the accessibility of the top-level TLDs. (Was that .ny.us or .nv.us?)
One could go on and on about whether or not the US has the right to claim such exclusive access, but the history remains the same. ^_^
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Is it all journey, or is there landfall?
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Since then, we've run stories on
I have a blog.
Why is there a second America-only tld? Why isn't this .ac.us (in the uk we use .ac.uk for educational institutions). I always thought the main tlds were supposed to be international, with only the country codes being restricted by country... Evidently not, though...
(It would be very nice to see .edu domains that aren't only 4-year colleges, too, so I hope that happens.)
.edu has come to signify something, just like .com has. If you start giving it to every other "online university" or other sillyness, then you diminish the .edu title, and soon you'll have things like www.hard-knox.edu.
I'd like to see it given to only accredited universities, actually.
I could be crazy though....
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I would so love to have hardknocks.edu! I know just about a bazillion people that would be qualified to have an alumni.hardknocks.edu email address (myself included, if having your kidneys fail when you're 20 counts as a hard knock ;-) ).
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Time to break internic's rules:
Registrant:
The Old School (OLDSCHOOL7-DOM)
1111 Karlstad Drive
Sunnyvale, CA 94089
US
Domain Name: OLDSCHOOL.EDU
Administrative Contact, Technical Contact, Billing Contact:
Bell, Wade (WB216) wbell@BEST.COM
8oz. Publishing
2432 Karen Dr #1
Santa Clara, CA 95050
408 249 1557
Record last updated on 08-Mar-2001.
Record created on 12-Oct-1998.
Database last updated on 12-Apr-2001 06:35:00 EDT.
Domain servers in listed order:
NAME.ROC.GBLX.NET 209.130.187.10
NAME.PHX.GBLX.NET 206.165.6.10
NAME.IAD.GBLX.NET 204.152.166.155
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this
for evilmedical.edu. After all, he didn't spend 8 years in Evil Medical School to be called "Mr. Evil".
I've wanted since the begining of all this, and every time i've applied (at multiple places) when asked by the person 'is this a 4 year school', i patiently reply 'One cannot become a ninja with only 4 years. ha! ha! ha!' and then they hang up on me, I think cause of the mocking tone.
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"Nothing the god of biomechanics wouldn't let you into heaven for.." -Roy Batty