Part of research, though, is taking almost any hare-brained idea, and running with it, with the idea that you'd get some useful insight with it. You'd gotta think that a multinational corporation that doesn't even think about doing something unless it's a potentially billion-dollar market has somewhere a bit of cash that it can toss on "fun" stuff.
Although, committing some of that cash on improving system security and performance would be useful, especially with a UI that will require a SGI supercomputer to process...
The only reason why I can see is for the corporate boardroom types... think a PHB elevated to the status of a God. They may understand the point that UNIX is what runs their mainframes, and it isn't just a sexless person, but some computer software. However, many people I talk to seem to not be able to grasp that the same OS I'm trying to hack onto my iPaq is the same one that runs on the shiny new IBM mainframes, and SGI supercomputers. In other words, they've wrapped "UNIX = big computer stuff, everything else = little computer stuff" around their minds finally, and being able to say "GNU/Linux = Unix" would prolly give it a boost.
To run with the PHB-as-God view, lots of business that don't really "do" computers (like, say, a farming megacorp) would most likely have the upper execs as people who understand the companies focus and business in general first and formost, and would just love having certifications up the butt for everything else, just so that if something goes down the tubes, they can point to the certifications and say "you certified it to work as perscribed, so fix it." IT-related things like Yahoo prolly would never need the certifications because their entire corporate focus is essentially computing. However, some midwest dairy corporate types would prolly sleep easier knowing their big computer investment is "certified", whatever that entails.
I work front-line tech support, and I've had someone explain to me 7 times in 5 minutes how they're a Professor Emeritus of fuss-'n'-bubbles while I'm trying to explain to them how to enter a web address into their browser.
"Alright, sir, now see the big blue lowercase "e" on your desktop? Yes, double-click that. With your mouse, yes. The button on the left. Sir, I know you're a professor emeritus..." Pretty much the only quote from that support call I remember.
I suppose for those in the high-end deep research fields (like my abovementioned professor), they might be afraid to admit to not knowing something "as simple as that", them with their PhDs. For most doctoral programs, the knowledge base requires depth, not width, of knowledge, so they often forgo learning new things to learn more about what they need to. Also, many of these people grew up when using a typewriter and correction fluid was the spiffy-high-tech way to go. I suppose they're just being like any guy who feels inadequate, but more in a educational, rather than... *ahem* physical sense.
Agreed. I have a friend who really doesn't give a crap as to what happens on his computer, as long as it remains working. And when it dies, all it takes is a reformat to fix it.
A democratic government is truly only answerable to its electorate. If an entire group of people got up and decided not to vote, the remaining voters get to put people who agree with them (the voting people) in office; if all the Democrats decided to boycott the election one time, then the United States would end up with a very Republican government, which the people in power (the Republicans) and the people who put the people in power (the voters who didn't join in the boycott, a.k.a., the Republicans) wouldn't mind, and therefore nothing would get done about it.
IIRC, many more of those who would most likely have liberal leanings and would tend to vote Democrat, like inner city minorities, tend to vote much less than those with traditionally more consertive leanings and would likely vote Republican, like rich, wealthy, whites.
To sum it up: If you don't vote, you're helping the side you don't want to win.
I think DNS is the most simple solution to the issue that it solves; otherwise, we'd need to all get DVD-ROMs on a weekly basis containing our newly updated global/etc/hosts file.
They do have real concerns about losing control. Usually, without too much hassle, Java can live up to its write once, (test and then) run everywhere. Will this be so if there are forked projects?
Hasn't Sun made Java an open standard, as in you can run a Java app on any VM that lives up to the standard? Thus, you can implement the standard however the devil you please.
Please correct me if I'm just talking from the ass.
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The reason they're in the art gallery is because they have the idea to push that off as art. If you came around and did that, and actively promoted it as art, I'm sure you too would end up in a gallery. Point is, you most likely haven't (either that, or you are in the art gallery for something that took more than five minutes with a paint can). It's art in an artistic sence simply because of the artist's audacity to actually do that.
Dude... would an english major even read Slashdot???
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Speaking of monkeys on typewriters, I once thought I saw a sig on/. saying about cat/dev/random being much more efficient or something...... what about a/dev/random poetry contest?:)
For a lot of Americans, "security" means "looks alright," and for others, security is just something to get in the way. I work front-line tech support staff for the IT department at the U of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign (the university that Telnet and Mosiac came from), and we require a secure master password, and different and secure passwords on everything else (such as email, Active Directory services, etc). I routinely have to deal with customers who are irate because they can't put in their dog's name as the one and only password for everything, and that the master password expires in a year. Our guidelines are here. Do they seem too much to ask?
To sum up, most people just don't want security, because of the "it won't happen to me" mentality. Give some of these people an RSA card, and they've just gotten something else to yell about because they can't get into things as easy as they want. (One man started complaining about "First my bank wanted me to use some PIN number on my bank card, and now this!" in all seriousness while stumbling through setting his emails)
Linux sucks!! AIX rules!!!!! Er, wait... that's just because I can't get Linux working with my RS/6000 530H:-P (FYI, the 530H is from '92, with a 33(?) MHz POWER processor, so don't flame me about the pSeries)
Perhaps Sun sees Java as an open standard (which it is), and hopes Solaris can work in a similar way (a la MS-DOS, PC-DOS, DR-DOS, etc.) Granted, if Solaris is made into a open standard as an OS, we most likely won't have things like "Dos isn't done till Lotus won't run"
You can take an ISO C++ program and compile it on just about any standards compilant compiler across multiple computers of different makes / models. For example, I can write code in C++, and compile it with Sun CC on a SPARC, gcc on a FreeBSD Alpha box, and icc on an Linux x86 box. MS Visual C++ was designed to lock you into the Windows x86 platform, and force you to use Visual Studio tools to boot.
Where in the Bible does it say, for a fact, that evolution cannot coexsist with creationism?
Hell, the timeline for the Book of Genesis and the big bang theory more or less coinside, just the scales are different.
Oh, and I'm sure I'll end up believing in something after I die. It's just what that's the problem. Most of my Hindu friends think this talk of heaven and hell is quite funny... "if at first you don't succede..."
OH, so I suppose this will tank my stock in Linux.:-P
OK, so first of all, wasn't the GNU project underway by the time Linux was written, thus making RMS much more of the "Father"?
In addition, according to the article: "Brown suggests the invention of Unix is an integral part of the Linux story," but isn't that the point of a Unix-like OS developed for the PC?
OK, so I was falling asleep at the keyboard when I wrote the post, and things just didn't come out right. To clarify:
I didn't mean Clinton as a criminal. I more or less meant that Clinton's accusers likely would look just as bad under the same light, but political / legal analysts were focused on Clinton.
My take on Groklaw is that is provides a different, and (what seems to be) less biased view on the law. If Groklaw had reported on actual proof of SCO code in Linux, I would think just as highly of them- they'd most likely give the necessary details without the FUD.
In otherwords, I would have rather had Groklaw during any major court case with FUD actions taking place of any sort.
Side note: I never get modded up on posts I'm concious for. Odd.
... we had GrokLaw for Watergate, Rodney King, Clinton, and OJ, the world would be a much better place. WAIT- no way to get/. "discussions" on Watergate as-it-was-happening. Pity.
My old Yahoo email account was getting ~50 emails a day. I don't know what UIUC uses, but once I started attending here, and switched to my UIUC email, I don't get any spam, at all. Props to anyone who can bring spam-free living to the masses better.
Part of research, though, is taking almost any hare-brained idea, and running with it, with the idea that you'd get some useful insight with it. You'd gotta think that a multinational corporation that doesn't even think about doing something unless it's a potentially billion-dollar market has somewhere a bit of cash that it can toss on "fun" stuff.
Although, committing some of that cash on improving system security and performance would be useful, especially with a UI that will require a SGI supercomputer to process...
The only reason why I can see is for the corporate boardroom types... think a PHB elevated to the status of a God. They may understand the point that UNIX is what runs their mainframes, and it isn't just a sexless person, but some computer software. However, many people I talk to seem to not be able to grasp that the same OS I'm trying to hack onto my iPaq is the same one that runs on the shiny new IBM mainframes, and SGI supercomputers. In other words, they've wrapped "UNIX = big computer stuff, everything else = little computer stuff" around their minds finally, and being able to say "GNU/Linux = Unix" would prolly give it a boost.
To run with the PHB-as-God view, lots of business that don't really "do" computers (like, say, a farming megacorp) would most likely have the upper execs as people who understand the companies focus and business in general first and formost, and would just love having certifications up the butt for everything else, just so that if something goes down the tubes, they can point to the certifications and say "you certified it to work as perscribed, so fix it." IT-related things like Yahoo prolly would never need the certifications because their entire corporate focus is essentially computing. However, some midwest dairy corporate types would prolly sleep easier knowing their big computer investment is "certified", whatever that entails.
I work front-line tech support, and I've had someone explain to me 7 times in 5 minutes how they're a Professor Emeritus of fuss-'n'-bubbles while I'm trying to explain to them how to enter a web address into their browser.
"Alright, sir, now see the big blue lowercase "e" on your desktop? Yes, double-click that. With your mouse, yes. The button on the left. Sir, I know you're a professor emeritus..." Pretty much the only quote from that support call I remember.
I suppose for those in the high-end deep research fields (like my abovementioned professor), they might be afraid to admit to not knowing something "as simple as that", them with their PhDs. For most doctoral programs, the knowledge base requires depth, not width, of knowledge, so they often forgo learning new things to learn more about what they need to. Also, many of these people grew up when using a typewriter and correction fluid was the spiffy-high-tech way to go. I suppose they're just being like any guy who feels inadequate, but more in a educational, rather than... *ahem* physical sense.
Or Tarballs to compile from source... no, wait, they do make tarballs! Slackware Telephone!!!
Agreed. I have a friend who really doesn't give a crap as to what happens on his computer, as long as it remains working. And when it dies, all it takes is a reformat to fix it.
*sigh*
A democratic government is truly only answerable to its electorate. If an entire group of people got up and decided not to vote, the remaining voters get to put people who agree with them (the voting people) in office; if all the Democrats decided to boycott the election one time, then the United States would end up with a very Republican government, which the people in power (the Republicans) and the people who put the people in power (the voters who didn't join in the boycott, a.k.a., the Republicans) wouldn't mind, and therefore nothing would get done about it.
IIRC, many more of those who would most likely have liberal leanings and would tend to vote Democrat, like inner city minorities, tend to vote much less than those with traditionally more consertive leanings and would likely vote Republican, like rich, wealthy, whites.
To sum it up: If you don't vote, you're helping the side you don't want to win.
I think DNS is the most simple solution to the issue that it solves; otherwise, we'd need to all get DVD-ROMs on a weekly basis containing our newly updated global /etc/hosts file.
Didn't one of the previous MS funded studies compare Windows Server .NET to Red Hat 6 Download Edition?
I'm saying that art has and can = audacity, but does not in many (or most) cases.
Please correct me if I'm just talking from the ass.
The reason they're in the art gallery is because they have the idea to push that off as art. If you came around and did that, and actively promoted it as art, I'm sure you too would end up in a gallery. Point is, you most likely haven't (either that, or you are in the art gallery for something that took more than five minutes with a paint can). It's art in an artistic sence simply because of the artist's audacity to actually do that.
Dude... would an english major even read Slashdot???
Speaking of monkeys on typewriters, I once thought I saw a sig on /. saying about cat /dev/random being much more efficient or something... ... what about a /dev/random poetry contest? :)
For a lot of Americans, "security" means "looks alright," and for others, security is just something to get in the way. I work front-line tech support staff for the IT department at the U of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign (the university that Telnet and Mosiac came from), and we require a secure master password, and different and secure passwords on everything else (such as email, Active Directory services, etc). I routinely have to deal with customers who are irate because they can't put in their dog's name as the one and only password for everything, and that the master password expires in a year. Our guidelines are here. Do they seem too much to ask?
To sum up, most people just don't want security, because of the "it won't happen to me" mentality. Give some of these people an RSA card, and they've just gotten something else to yell about because they can't get into things as easy as they want. (One man started complaining about "First my bank wanted me to use some PIN number on my bank card, and now this!" in all seriousness while stumbling through setting his emails)
Wow...
I think I just felt my brain collapse upon itself, thus creating a black hole in my skull just pondering your statement. Good job.
Wait, isn't that MS's idea?
Linux sucks!! AIX rules!!!!! Er, wait... that's just because I can't get Linux working with my RS/6000 530H :-P (FYI, the 530H is from '92, with a 33(?) MHz POWER processor, so don't flame me about the pSeries)
Quick thought:
Perhaps Sun sees Java as an open standard (which it is), and hopes Solaris can work in a similar way (a la MS-DOS, PC-DOS, DR-DOS, etc.) Granted, if Solaris is made into a open standard as an OS, we most likely won't have things like "Dos isn't done till Lotus won't run"
You can take an ISO C++ program and compile it on just about any standards compilant compiler across multiple computers of different makes / models. For example, I can write code in C++, and compile it with Sun CC on a SPARC, gcc on a FreeBSD Alpha box, and icc on an Linux x86 box. MS Visual C++ was designed to lock you into the Windows x86 platform, and force you to use Visual Studio tools to boot.
Where in the Bible does it say, for a fact, that evolution cannot coexsist with creationism?
Hell, the timeline for the Book of Genesis and the big bang theory more or less coinside, just the scales are different.
Oh, and I'm sure I'll end up believing in something after I die. It's just what that's the problem. Most of my Hindu friends think this talk of heaven and hell is quite funny... "if at first you don't succede..."
"But this oven goes to 11!"
Automated install disk over network. Take the hard drive out, and image it in another machine.
Take a small army of microscopic trained monkeys, and have them arrange the magnetic particles on the hard disk just so to get the OS installed.
OH, so I suppose this will tank my stock in Linux. :-P
OK, so first of all, wasn't the GNU project underway by the time Linux was written, thus making RMS much more of the "Father"?
In addition, according to the article: "Brown suggests the invention of Unix is an integral part of the Linux story," but isn't that the point of a Unix-like OS developed for the PC?
Oh, wait. I'm supposed to buy in to FUD tactics.
OK, so I was falling asleep at the keyboard when I wrote the post, and things just didn't come out right. To clarify: I didn't mean Clinton as a criminal. I more or less meant that Clinton's accusers likely would look just as bad under the same light, but political / legal analysts were focused on Clinton. My take on Groklaw is that is provides a different, and (what seems to be) less biased view on the law. If Groklaw had reported on actual proof of SCO code in Linux, I would think just as highly of them- they'd most likely give the necessary details without the FUD. In otherwords, I would have rather had Groklaw during any major court case with FUD actions taking place of any sort. Side note: I never get modded up on posts I'm concious for. Odd.
... we had GrokLaw for Watergate, Rodney King, Clinton, and OJ, the world would be a much better place. WAIT- no way to get /. "discussions" on Watergate as-it-was-happening. Pity.
My old Yahoo email account was getting ~50 emails a day. I don't know what UIUC uses, but once I started attending here, and switched to my UIUC email, I don't get any spam, at all. Props to anyone who can bring spam-free living to the masses better.