"UNIX was designed to run on mainframes and serve dozens, hundreds or even thousands of users."
Actually, UNIX was designed to run as a game platform on a PDP-7 minicomputer.:)
From Origins and History of Unix "Unix began its life on a scavenged PDP-7 minicomputer[14] like the one shown in Figure 2.1, as a platform for the Space Travel game and a testbed for Thompson's ideas about operating system design."
Really nice writing. Just one thing that strikes me as flawed.
(2) Even without understanding something, we can manipulate it in such a way as to achieve the desired affect.
The problem is that neither me, you nor anybody else have so far been able to reliably predict the effect of treatment in a specific patient. Sure there are statistics, but that does not help predicting reactions in each specific case. Maybe you should say
(2) Even without understanding something, we can manipulate it and hope we achieve the desired affect.
I agree that medicine is not science, but an art. The problem is that most doctors view themselves as scientists.
Doctors think in a different way: do whatever is necessary, and whatever you can, to keep the patient alive and as healthy as possible
I would say that most of my colleagues have disease as their focal point, not the patient. The patient is just a battlefield where the disease and the doctor fights the war.
You would be surprised how many people actually come out of surgery thinking that the operation was successful even though the patient died.
Is it possible to "intelligently guide" a chaotic system? Well, maybe someday we will be able to, but definitely not right now...
Two examples, from the "real" world:
1. Researchers wanted to increase the starch content of potatoes. Simple, since they had the whole genome and biochemistry mapped. So, genetically, they engineered the potatoes to their needs. Strangely enought, when they measured the starch levels it was 1/6th of the original!?! Hmmm....a biochemical remapping showed unexpected results. Well, nothing that can't be fixed genetically, right? Another modification and another measurement. 1/6th, again? Damn, now they are down to 1/36th of the original levels. The leading researcher finished off the article by stating something along the lines that it is impossible to "intelligently guide" even something as simple as a potatoe. (I think it was American Scientist that published this, but I might remember this incorrecty. I know I have a copy stashed somewhere at home though)
2. Another set of researchers wanted to genetically modify salmonds so that the color of their flesh would become "naturally" pink (ie. without food colorings). Simple thing, right? Wrong! Locating the right genes was easy, changing the genes was easy and growing them was easy. Did they become pink? No. But they did grow bigger than "normal" salmond. The leading researcher stated that this was indeed a good thing.
However, more and more researchers today realise that: - Predictability and chaotic systems don't match - Genes do not have a 1:1 relationship with functions. (and before you ask....no, not a 1:1 with proteins either)
So, am I saying that we shouldn't genetically modify organisms? No. But I do think that calling it genetic engineering is misleading at best. Pretending that we know what we are doing is plain stupid...
If you read his email, he's saying exactly that - he DOESN'T WANT OR NEED a mail account with Bostream.
No, sorry, I did not read his email. I did read his/. post though. Did you? If he "DOESN'T WANT OR NEED a mail account with Bostream" why did he order one, for $2.5 a month? Maybe you should read his post.
Maybe because "his own server" (like the University account he mentioned) won't relay for him when he's not connected to it's network, and (since it's a university server) he doesn't have the authority or ability to change it.
Well wiseguy, we are talking Bostream now, an ISP. I so happens that I have Bostream as well, and there is absolutely nothing stopping me from relaying through my own server. I have done so for over a year now.
Please come back when you know what you are talking about.
As always, I am confused. If you have your own domain and run your own mail server (Postfix), why do you need a mail account with Bostream? Why not relay all mail (regardless of domain) from your own server?
1. The ISP AOL begins bouncing all e-mail from the ISP Telia due to large amounts of SPAM from some of Telias DSL customers.
2. Telia blocks all of their DSL customers (companies and individuals) outgoing SMTP (port 25) traffic.
3. eddy states (correctly) that: Telia is mostly known for their suckage over here. They've made several false starts, including blocking SMTP completely at their border making it impossible to host ones own mail server.
4. BetterThanCaesar asks (regarding Telias SMTP blocking): What would you have done?
5. I answer: Maybe they (clarification for the clueless: "they" is a reference to the ISP Telia) should have blocked the ones sending out SPAM, instead of everybody! Do you honestly think that innocent companies (another clarification for the clueless: these "companies" are customers of Telia) and individuals should be punished? Oh, and without notice by the way.
6. You claim that: The ISP is not innocent; it is their job to enforce policies and to be a good citizen on the net. Unfortunately to block an ISP you do block customers by extension, but this is the only way to get ISPs to do something.
7. We conclude that you are clueless, and apparently/. as well since you been modded to a score of 2....eh, hmmm....well I guess we knew the last bit, but I expected more from you.
Yes, but if I was Bostream and you have "licensed" the right to use the address somebody@bostrem.com, why should I let you send any other mail via my SMTP-server?
Maybe they should have blocked the ones sending out SPAM, instead of everybody! Do you honestly think that innocent companies and individuals should be punished? Oh, and without notice by the way.
The way I see it, Bostream takes a very simple approach to mail. Either you set up your own SMTP-server or you buy an e-mail account from them. If you buy an e-mail account from them, why should you be able to set the "MAIL FROM"-header?
Actually, last year (2002-10-29, if I remember correctly) they closed down all SMTP traffic from DSL accounts without any type of notice. Yes, you did read that correctly. Without notice!
A lot of companies and individuals switched other companies like Bostream and Bredbandsbolaget. I don't think anyone ever regretted this. Because Telia mostly....hm, is not that good.:)
This had one amusing side effect thou. Telias customer support service used DSL and could not send any mail to their clients. Nice going...
Slashdot Mirror
Oh no, wait! Sorry, my mistake...
Now I know what to look for in job applications for our hardware division.
"UNIX was designed to run on mainframes and serve dozens, hundreds or even thousands of users."
:)
Actually, UNIX was designed to run as a game platform on a PDP-7 minicomputer.
From Origins and History of Unix
"Unix began its life on a scavenged PDP-7 minicomputer[14] like the one shown in Figure 2.1, as a platform for the Space Travel game and a testbed for Thompson's ideas about operating system design."
Type I - Ferro
Type II - Chrome
Type IV - Metal
The difference is usually something like:
Frequency response
Type I 30Hz-14kHz
Type II 30Hz-15kHz
Type IV 30Hz-16kHz
Overall signal to noise ratio
Type I 51dB
Type II 52dB
Type IV 52dB
Unicomp
supposed to be cool. If you want warmth buy Intel, and if you want to get hot go for a 12" PowerBook
I know this is /. but it would be nice if someone for once actually read the pages linked to. Oh wait, I actually read them. Wow, first time on /. !!!
Anyway, IE7 uses htc which is mostly JavaScript.
I think we fared pretty well over our lifetimes. Haven't we?
/.? Man, wake up!
Haven't you realized that you are on
Really nice writing. Just one thing that strikes me as flawed.
(2) Even without understanding something, we can manipulate it in such a way as to achieve the desired affect.
The problem is that neither me, you nor anybody else have so far been able to reliably predict the effect of treatment in a specific patient. Sure there are statistics, but that does not help predicting reactions in each specific case. Maybe you should say
(2) Even without understanding something, we can manipulate it and hope we achieve the desired affect.
I agree that medicine is not science, but an art. The problem is that most doctors view themselves as scientists.
Doctors think in a different way: do whatever is necessary, and whatever you can, to keep the patient alive and as healthy as possible
I would say that most of my colleagues have disease as their focal point, not the patient. The patient is just a battlefield where the disease and the doctor fights the war.
You would be surprised how many people actually come out of surgery thinking that the operation was successful even though the patient died.
Stop the Slashdot Effect! Don't read the articles!
Hello! This is Slashdot. Nobody RTFA. What we do is reload the article constantly until the site goes down. Then we can't RTFA anyway.
Next site, please!
The US ignores these resolutions entirely seeing them for what they are.
About time you guys see things for what they are. Can you apply this to other areas as well?
Stupidity drives evolution today!
If we shouldn't do that, then we wouldn't be able to. == "We should do that, if we are able to."
Is it possible to "intelligently guide" a chaotic system? Well, maybe someday we will be able to, but definitely not right now...
Two examples, from the "real" world:
1. Researchers wanted to increase the starch content of potatoes. Simple, since they had the whole genome and biochemistry mapped. So, genetically, they engineered the potatoes to their needs. Strangely enought, when they measured the starch levels it was 1/6th of the original!?! Hmmm....a biochemical remapping showed unexpected results. Well, nothing that can't be fixed genetically, right? Another modification and another measurement. 1/6th, again? Damn, now they are down to 1/36th of the original levels. The leading researcher finished off the article by stating something along the lines that it is impossible to "intelligently guide" even something as simple as a potatoe.
(I think it was American Scientist that published this, but I might remember this incorrecty. I know I have a copy stashed somewhere at home though)
2. Another set of researchers wanted to genetically modify salmonds so that the color of their flesh would become "naturally" pink (ie. without food colorings). Simple thing, right? Wrong! Locating the right genes was easy, changing the genes was easy and growing them was easy. Did they become pink? No. But they did grow bigger than "normal" salmond. The leading researcher stated that this was indeed a good thing.
However, more and more researchers today realise that:
- Predictability and chaotic systems don't match
- Genes do not have a 1:1 relationship with functions. (and before you ask....no, not a 1:1 with proteins either)
So, am I saying that we shouldn't genetically modify organisms? No.
But I do think that calling it genetic engineering is misleading at best. Pretending that we know what we are doing is plain stupid...
Hm, I think I'll stop now before I go on a rant.
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That's much fun is it?
If you read his email, he's saying exactly that - he DOESN'T WANT OR NEED a mail account with Bostream.
/. post though. Did you? If he "DOESN'T WANT OR NEED a mail account with Bostream" why did he order one, for $2.5 a month? Maybe you should read his post.
No, sorry, I did not read his email. I did read his
Maybe because "his own server" (like the University account he mentioned) won't relay for him when he's not connected to it's network, and (since it's a university server) he doesn't have the authority or ability to change it.
Well wiseguy, we are talking Bostream now, an ISP. I so happens that I have Bostream as well, and there is absolutely nothing stopping me from relaying through my own server. I have done so for over a year now.
Please come back when you know what you are talking about.
As always, I am confused. If you have your own domain and run your own mail server (Postfix), why do you need a mail account with Bostream? Why not relay all mail (regardless of domain) from your own server?
Chain of events:
/. as well since you been modded to a score of 2....eh, hmmm....well I guess we knew the last bit, but I expected more from you.
1. The ISP AOL begins bouncing all e-mail from the ISP Telia due to large amounts of SPAM from some of Telias DSL customers.
2. Telia blocks all of their DSL customers (companies and individuals) outgoing SMTP (port 25) traffic.
3. eddy states (correctly) that: Telia is mostly known for their suckage over here. They've made several false starts, including blocking SMTP completely at their border making it impossible to host ones own mail server.
4. BetterThanCaesar asks (regarding Telias SMTP blocking): What would you have done?
5. I answer: Maybe they (clarification for the clueless: "they" is a reference to the ISP Telia) should have blocked the ones sending out SPAM, instead of everybody! Do you honestly think that innocent companies (another clarification for the clueless: these "companies" are customers of Telia) and individuals should be punished? Oh, and without notice by the way.
6. You claim that: The ISP is not innocent; it is their job to enforce policies and to be a good citizen on the net. Unfortunately to block an ISP you do block customers by extension, but this is the only way to get ISPs to do something.
7. We conclude that you are clueless, and apparently
Yes, but if I was Bostream and you have "licensed" the right to use the address somebody@bostrem.com, why should I let you send any other mail via my SMTP-server?
Maybe they should have blocked the ones sending out SPAM, instead of everybody! Do you honestly think that innocent companies and individuals should be punished? Oh, and without notice by the way.
The way I see it, Bostream takes a very simple approach to mail. Either you set up your own SMTP-server or you buy an e-mail account from them. If you buy an e-mail account from them, why should you be able to set the "MAIL FROM"-header?
Honestly, I am curious.
Actually, last year (2002-10-29, if I remember correctly) they closed down all SMTP traffic from DSL accounts without any type of notice. Yes, you did read that correctly. Without notice!
:)
A lot of companies and individuals switched other companies like Bostream and Bredbandsbolaget. I don't think anyone ever regretted this. Because Telia mostly....hm, is not that good.
This had one amusing side effect thou. Telias customer support service used DSL and could not send any mail to their clients. Nice going...
Windows 95, Windows 98, Windows 98 SE, Windows ME, Windows 2000 and Windows XP. What's your problem?