It doesn't actually mention [people who horde game money and then sell it for real money, on ebay, etc], but it's pretty well accepted that [people who, in the game, monopolize a perticular spot (not allowing anyone else there) to kill monsters that drop a lot of gil (game money) are gil sellers (people who sell game money for real money)].
Does that make any more sense now?
gil = game money gil sellers = people who sell game money for real money NM spawns = monsters that drop a lot of gil
Given the popularity of expensive toys such as iPods, Xboxes, and PS2s on college campuses -- yes they can. Hell, it's what -- a few month's worth of a cell-phone plan?
Maybe I live in freaksville, but none of the college students I know can afford cell phones. Actually, most of my friends had to drop out of college because they couldn't afford it anymore. So I guess I just know really poor college students.
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f you gave your friends the original media, as well as any archival/backup copies you made, then no, that's not illegal. If on the other hand you gave them a copy or retained a copy for yourself, then you have broken copyright law and are subject to =1 year in jail and =250K fine.
Ah, so if I back up my DVDs and then loan one to a friend, I am a criminal? What kind of retarded shit is that?
If the parent was the one going into the game store to buy the game (and see the flyers and posters), the law wouldn't matter anyhow.
All the big game retailers (Gamestop, EB, Walmart, etc) and probably most if not all of the small retailers have policies against selling games to kids without their parents there. So, no, the law doesn't matter anyways. I used to work at Gamestop, and I can't tell you how many parents ignored me as I tried to explain to them why they shouldn't buy GTA for their 8-year old. I blame parents 100% for their kids haveing inappropriate games, the industry does plenty to inform any parent who cares.
The industry has not made it a priority to educate people explicitly on the ratings system
Yes, they have. Look around your local game store. You'll see multiple signs advertising the ratings. They put ads in game magazines explaining the ratings. They frequently have fliers for the game stores to give out as well. And the rating is displayed on both the front and back of every game. What else do you think the ESRB can do?
The ESRB has screwed up with there ratings before (Compare DOA Vollyball with DOA 3 sometime). Yet, they're only human. I'm sure people disagree with movie and TV ratings, too. It also might have helped the editorial if the author didn't admit at the beginning that he has no idea what his games were rated. Should the ESRB really respond to criticism by someone who only spent a couple of minutes looking at their ratings?
Also, what this "Government Intervention" concept? Would the government really take over the ESRB? No, that would be stupid, and I'm sure they'ld do an even worse job anyways.
Really the PS2 is the platformer console of choice this generation. Sly Cooper series, Ratchet & Clank series, all of the multiplatform platformers... pretty much every non-Nintendo platformer is on it.
The PS2 does have a comparable library of platformers to the Cube, but I think Cube's exclusives are much better than PS2's. Ratchet & Clank didn't impress me at all, and I've heard Sly isn't all that good. Maybe you like them better, but I think lacking the Nintendo platformers leaves a pretty big hole in a platformer fan's library.
... give me examples of other games like Spyro I might enjoy that are exclusive to Gamecube.
First, there's the other Spyro that's not on Xbox. There's also the Sonic series, Super Mario/Wario, and Viewtiful Joe. And if you have a GBA player on your Cube, that's another 4 Spyro games that Xbox doesn't have. While not all of the good platformers on Cube are exclusive, I've seen very few good platformers that were not on it. So I'ld say the Cube is the system for platformer fans.
Now - this is the definition of target deomgraphic. all age 18-25, Male
I'm sick of this target demographic bullshit. As if other people don't buy games. I have more games than probably anyone in your dorm, yet I don't fit your stupid demographic so I guess I don't count.
I'm also sick of this bullshit idea that girls don't play games. I asked my dad for a video game for christmas, and he gave it to my boyfriend. When I play my SP in public, people assume it a book. How the fuck does someone confuse an SP for a book? I don't fucking know. I just wish people would wake the fuck up and realize that not all gamers are "age 18-25, Male".
I'm with you on that. I've been wishing ever since FFVII that Square would do the same thing with FF games that they do with so many of their others, and barely make enough US copies to cover the preorders (Can you say Valkyrie Profile?)
Why would you want them to make less games? Do you want games to be more expensive (so they can make as much while selling less) or do you want to have to pre-order games because otherwise you may never get the opportunity to play them ever? What kind of logic is that?
Should game designers put an option in their "options" menu for "sex of player" then?
Yes! I mean, sometimes it's not practical, but when it is practical, you should be able to choose the gender of your charactor. And Square-enix needs to have more games with female main charactors. So many girls play their games, and yet they just ignore this. I, personally, am sick of playing (Final Fantasies) as some dumb boy who spends most of the game trying to get together with the girl. Can't I play as the girl? And no, X-2 did not count, because they forgot to give it a storyline.
And would most women want a small-breasted woman on the computer screen?
Uh, why not? I think most women gamers don't care about that, as long as the charactor on screen isn't too badly disproportionate.
Personally I think small-breasted woman are fine (as long as they are my age, 25-30).
So you think all women who are not 25-30 should have large breasts? Huh?
Big boobed girl - "duh like totally want to go to the mall"
Small-boobed girl - "whoa lets play 100 more rounds of KOF 2002 and then we will know who kicks ass!"
Uh, yeah, those boobs are really filled with brain matter. Right.
Stores can do that now, but if they make a law against selling minors mature games, I highly doubt they'll be able too. It would be like signing a form saying your kid ca buy all the alcohol s/he wants.
Which is another reason not to have laws against it. Mature video games should be treated like mature movies, not like alcohol.
From what I've heard the ESRB is trying to increase public awareness to silence complaints (since nobody complains about movies as they are rated already).
I don't understand why movies aren't complained about since they're already rated already, but video games are already rated as well but people complain about them. They've been rated for over a decade, it's not like this is a new thing.
have a feeling that replacing those idiotic rating names with actual numbers would help parents to understand them. Maybe if the markings were more visible it would help, too.
Idiotic names? Everyone, Teen, and Mature are too complicated for you? And wouldn't it confuse people more to have an established ratings system scraped for something else?
And to the sister post: or on French TV, the green circle, yellow triangle, and red square that appear in the bottom-right corner of shows/movies (during the entire thing, as opposed to the black/white notices before shows in the US)
I would hate that. First of all, symbols sound even more confusing than a rating of "Teen" or whatever. Second of all, I'ld really be annoyed at something sitting on the screen all the time while I play my games. And is it really that hard for parents to come in, ask what the kid is playing, and watch them for a little bit to see what the game is like? Rating companies *do* make mistakes, and I can't imagine blinding accepting whatever a rating says is ok for my (potential) children without checking it out in some way. No offense, but your idea is the worst I've heard for game ratings.
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Well, parents can let their kids control their own money without fear of them spending it all on booze, cigarettes and GTA: San Andreas.
If parents are afraid their kids are going to spend their money on booze and cigarettes and anything else the parents don't want the kid to have, then either the parents shouldn't let the kids have money or they have bigger problems than the kid is playing San Andreas.
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I'm glad they didn't let you delete her account. That would have been so mean. How would you feel if she had destroyed your games when she moved out?
Bush did, and for everyone (Not just the "wealthy") =)
Everyone? Then how come I only know one person who got their taxes cut? And, big surprise here, he's the wealthiest person I know.
Bush lowered taxes for the wealthy and cut programs that help the not wealthy. That's a fact.
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It doesn't actually mention [people who horde game money and then sell it for real money, on ebay, etc], but it's pretty well accepted that [people who, in the game, monopolize a perticular spot (not allowing anyone else there) to kill monsters that drop a lot of gil (game money) are gil sellers (people who sell game money for real money)].
Does that make any more sense now?
gil = game money
gil sellers = people who sell game money for real money
NM spawns = monsters that drop a lot of gil
Given the popularity of expensive toys such as iPods, Xboxes, and PS2s on college campuses -- yes they can. Hell, it's what -- a few month's worth of a cell-phone plan?
Maybe I live in freaksville, but none of the college students I know can afford cell phones. Actually, most of my friends had to drop out of college because they couldn't afford it anymore. So I guess I just know really poor college students.
f you gave your friends the original media, as well as any archival/backup copies you made, then no, that's not illegal. If on the other hand you gave them a copy or retained a copy for yourself, then you have broken copyright law and are subject to =1 year in jail and =250K fine.
Ah, so if I back up my DVDs and then loan one to a friend, I am a criminal? What kind of retarded shit is that?
One goes to graphic design college and gets the pro version of Photoshop at student discount, $99. Duh.
Yes, students can easily afford to pay $99 for one piece of software. Duh.
Since I'm 17, I'm not supposed to be able to buy GTA:SA.
"Mature" means rated for people 17 and up. So, you're fine to buy GTA.
If the parent was the one going into the game store to buy the game (and see the flyers and posters), the law wouldn't matter anyhow.
All the big game retailers (Gamestop, EB, Walmart, etc) and probably most if not all of the small retailers have policies against selling games to kids without their parents there. So, no, the law doesn't matter anyways. I used to work at Gamestop, and I can't tell you how many parents ignored me as I tried to explain to them why they shouldn't buy GTA for their 8-year old. I blame parents 100% for their kids haveing inappropriate games, the industry does plenty to inform any parent who cares.
The industry has not made it a priority to educate people explicitly on the ratings system
Yes, they have. Look around your local game store. You'll see multiple signs advertising the ratings. They put ads in game magazines explaining the ratings. They frequently have fliers for the game stores to give out as well. And the rating is displayed on both the front and back of every game. What else do you think the ESRB can do?
I like old-style adventure games! And I still buy new games. Who else does? I can't be the only one.
The ESRB has screwed up with there ratings before (Compare DOA Vollyball with DOA 3 sometime). Yet, they're only human. I'm sure people disagree with movie and TV ratings, too. It also might have helped the editorial if the author didn't admit at the beginning that he has no idea what his games were rated. Should the ESRB really respond to criticism by someone who only spent a couple of minutes looking at their ratings?
Also, what this "Government Intervention" concept? Would the government really take over the ESRB? No, that would be stupid, and I'm sure they'ld do an even worse job anyways.
Really the PS2 is the platformer console of choice this generation. Sly Cooper series, Ratchet & Clank series, all of the multiplatform platformers... pretty much every non-Nintendo platformer is on it.
The PS2 does have a comparable library of platformers to the Cube, but I think Cube's exclusives are much better than PS2's. Ratchet & Clank didn't impress me at all, and I've heard Sly isn't all that good. Maybe you like them better, but I think lacking the Nintendo platformers leaves a pretty big hole in a platformer fan's library.
I'm sure it was out before Christmas in the UK
I'm sorry, I should have stated I was talking about the US.
Please explain what benefit would come from selling less Final Fantasies than people would buy, for either the gamers or for Square.
... give me examples of other games like Spyro I might enjoy that are exclusive to Gamecube.
First, there's the other Spyro that's not on Xbox. There's also the Sonic series, Super Mario/Wario, and Viewtiful Joe. And if you have a GBA player on your Cube, that's another 4 Spyro games that Xbox doesn't have. While not all of the good platformers on Cube are exclusive, I've seen very few good platformers that were not on it. So I'ld say the Cube is the system for platformer fans.
Now - this is the definition of target deomgraphic. all age 18-25, Male
I'm sick of this target demographic bullshit. As if other people don't buy games. I have more games than probably anyone in your dorm, yet I don't fit your stupid demographic so I guess I don't count.
I'm also sick of this bullshit idea that girls don't play games. I asked my dad for a video game for christmas, and he gave it to my boyfriend. When I play my SP in public, people assume it a book. How the fuck does someone confuse an SP for a book? I don't fucking know. I just wish people would wake the fuck up and realize that not all gamers are "age 18-25, Male".
Even if you don't like Halo 2, I've spent the weekend playing Spyro the Dragon (yeah, I'll admit to that) and it's fun as hell.
If you like games like Spyro, Gamecube is your system, not Xbox.
I'm with you on that. I've been wishing ever since FFVII that Square would do the same thing with FF games that they do with so many of their others, and barely make enough US copies to cover the preorders (Can you say Valkyrie Profile?)
Why would you want them to make less games? Do you want games to be more expensive (so they can make as much while selling less) or do you want to have to pre-order games because otherwise you may never get the opportunity to play them ever? What kind of logic is that?
Minish Cap was released January 10th.
Should game designers put an option in their "options" menu for "sex of player" then?
Yes! I mean, sometimes it's not practical, but when it is practical, you should be able to choose the gender of your charactor. And Square-enix needs to have more games with female main charactors. So many girls play their games, and yet they just ignore this. I, personally, am sick of playing (Final Fantasies) as some dumb boy who spends most of the game trying to get together with the girl. Can't I play as the girl? And no, X-2 did not count, because they forgot to give it a storyline.
And would most women want a small-breasted woman on the computer screen?
Uh, why not? I think most women gamers don't care about that, as long as the charactor on screen isn't too badly disproportionate.
Personally I think small-breasted woman are fine (as long as they are my age, 25-30).
So you think all women who are not 25-30 should have large breasts? Huh?
Big boobed girl - "duh like totally want to go to the mall"
Small-boobed girl - "whoa lets play 100 more rounds of KOF 2002 and then we will know who kicks ass!"
Uh, yeah, those boobs are really filled with brain matter. Right.
Stores can do that now, but if they make a law against selling minors mature games, I highly doubt they'll be able too. It would be like signing a form saying your kid ca buy all the alcohol s/he wants. Which is another reason not to have laws against it. Mature video games should be treated like mature movies, not like alcohol.
You know, if some service were available that allowed me to subscribe to certain shows, and download them on demand, I might consider dropping cable.
You know, if that service existed, I might consider not pirating cable shows.
Besides, it's impossible to watch your child 24/7 and it shouldn't be that dangerous to leave your child alone for a few hours.
Maybe it shouldn't be, but it is. And buying a a videogame you don't approve of is one of the less dangerous things kids can do when left alone.
From what I've heard the ESRB is trying to increase public awareness to silence complaints (since nobody complains about movies as they are rated already).
I don't understand why movies aren't complained about since they're already rated already, but video games are already rated as well but people complain about them. They've been rated for over a decade, it's not like this is a new thing.
have a feeling that replacing those idiotic rating names with actual numbers would help parents to understand them. Maybe if the markings were more visible it would help, too.
Idiotic names? Everyone, Teen, and Mature are too complicated for you? And wouldn't it confuse people more to have an established ratings system scraped for something else?
And to the sister post:
or on French TV, the green circle, yellow triangle, and red square that appear in the bottom-right corner of shows/movies (during the entire thing, as opposed to the black/white notices before shows in the US)
I would hate that. First of all, symbols sound even more confusing than a rating of "Teen" or whatever. Second of all, I'ld really be annoyed at something sitting on the screen all the time while I play my games. And is it really that hard for parents to come in, ask what the kid is playing, and watch them for a little bit to see what the game is like? Rating companies *do* make mistakes, and I can't imagine blinding accepting whatever a rating says is ok for my (potential) children without checking it out in some way. No offense, but your idea is the worst I've heard for game ratings.
Well, parents can let their kids control their own money without fear of them spending it all on booze, cigarettes and GTA: San Andreas.
If parents are afraid their kids are going to spend their money on booze and cigarettes and anything else the parents don't want the kid to have, then either the parents shouldn't let the kids have money or they have bigger problems than the kid is playing San Andreas.