There is a growing momentum though for corporate versions of IM software. While I know AOL is not the only one, it is a quick and easy example. AOL has info about its corporate IM service. With a overview of what they offer here.
While total security will never be achieved, I feel that there are efforts that can be made to minimize the effects of hackers.
The internet will never have total security. There will always be ways around any programing that was made. There will always be bugs, loop-holes, etc. We are not perfect in our ability to program, and subsequently are coding is not perfect.
But with this being said that doesnt mean that we cant do anything to help protect ourselves. We can make effective practices of protecting systems by physical methods. If you dont want people to hack your system dont connect it up to the internet. While I know that those nuclear technicians love to surf the web while at work, but that doesnt have to be the same system that runs the reactor.
Virus writers will always exist, just like music sharing, and ads. The key is just how you will negate their effects.
yes but watch how quickly if spam starts to spreading to cell phones their will be a quick outcry of people on this. It is illegal for telemarketers to call cell phones so sending unsolicited text messages in theory would fall under the same guidelines.
just like how all the software companies should be held liable for thier faults. The only thing is no matter how good a programing job one does there is always a way around it.
Oh its much much worse than that. With the growing trend of electronics being networked and intigrated into a bigger system think of the fun a virus could have.
Your fridge goes crazy and starts attacking you with ice cubes.
Your coffee machine makes something tasting like crap.
Your garage door shuts on the car as it backs out.
And the laundry machine fills the house with soap suds.
Oh what a virus writers dream. A whole house on the fritz.
The internet is not the only thing being used as critical infrastructure. Look at cell phones. People use them everyday, and they are becoming the norm. It is even becoming the standard with number portability moving land lines to cell phones and not vice-versa. But are they reliable. One power outage and they fail, one emergency and the cell towers get overwhelmed. Oh well just another piece of technology we are addicted to that could easily fail us.
Just let the Red Cross run the whole thing. They are the protectors of the Geneva Convention, and headquartered in switzerland. That way we have an unbias group running it.
well, I dont know if I would call it failing. But lets just look at their business model.
Students pay thousands of dollars to go to the school.
University installs big brother system
They dont have to worry about the RIAA coming after the university now.
Students get the shaft
University sells out
so do they make money or just loose their soul?
agreed, especially since none of the gestures they have listed have any form of real interaction with the website. They all the fuctions seen in the standard button.
The question is what precident is their for the FBI to demand that the OnStar be FBI friendly. I easily see teh FBI demanding this, and this going to court with OnStar saying they dont have to do that.
This is an interesting approach that may prove to be effective. The problem in the past in fighting viruses is that you have to have each individual computer updated. Most computers just were not updated regularly, despite the development of automatic systems. But by placing stragic routers across the internet and having them filter through these you could effectively fight viruses as effectively as any AV software could. I know my university scans all incoming e-mails and cleanses them, i think i have only once in my career here then recieved an infected e-mail. You do get into some ethical dilemas if you implement this on a global scale though. is it ok for the backbone of the internet to filter content? Its one thing for an ISP to do this, but what if a country like china wants to deam certain traffic dangerous and have them cleansed by the routers as well. (maybe not the best example since they do have the great china firewall, but you get the picture)
besides it should be common sense that if you want true security you need to develop it your self. Otherwise you are trusting people like microsoft to make you secure.
I had a friend back in high school made his own encryption program, thing works like a charm. Not that hard to make an undecypherable encryption scheme.
The price will eventually go down, give it time. But as for tapping, it does create a problem for the agencies that would want to listen in. They of course would not publish if there is a back door, and maybe all you need to listen is the software running on the listening device? That information would be highly secretive.
I find it funny that the Netherlands tap more phones a year. I wonder if that is true or just because half of what agencies do over here is classified. There no oversight of how many people actualy are tapped. Remember for the longest time the NSA was a very classified organization and no one even knew of its existence.
Military already has these. While most information about them is classified, thy are about palm size and are little planes not helicopter like devices. They also done work with miniblimps. and they do just that they have little video cameras. Its not very pratical to use these means for bombing. You cant get that much explosive on one of them and still have them undetectable. Also, when the military likes to make things go boom, they do it with a little more panache.
Its like saying the gamecube is better than a playstation 1. There years appart good thing they made a product that is more advance than something that has been out for a couple years.. Go progress.
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touche.. good job with your rebuttle. I definetly agree that the US market will not be affected by this.
Oh well, maybe i should just work in the US, and live in like some asian nation where i can buy stuff cheap.
Or in this case, get free software, that doesnt work well and is not reliable. Oh the dilemna.
Maybe this will cause the price of microsoft products to drop, just like we saw with Playstation in China.
There is a growing momentum though for corporate versions of IM software. While I know AOL is not the only one, it is a quick and easy example. AOL has info about its corporate IM service. With a overview of what they offer here.
yes because people are just so intelegent and capable of handling their computers on their own.
I think this sums it up.
While total security will never be achieved, I feel that there are efforts that can be made to minimize the effects of hackers.
The internet will never have total security. There will always be ways around any programing that was made. There will always be bugs, loop-holes, etc. We are not perfect in our ability to program, and subsequently are coding is not perfect.
But with this being said that doesnt mean that we cant do anything to help protect ourselves. We can make effective practices of protecting systems by physical methods. If you dont want people to hack your system dont connect it up to the internet. While I know that those nuclear technicians love to surf the web while at work, but that doesnt have to be the same system that runs the reactor.
Virus writers will always exist, just like music sharing, and ads. The key is just how you will negate their effects.
yes but watch how quickly if spam starts to spreading to cell phones their will be a quick outcry of people on this. It is illegal for telemarketers to call cell phones so sending unsolicited text messages in theory would fall under the same guidelines.
just like how all the software companies should be held liable for thier faults. The only thing is no matter how good a programing job one does there is always a way around it.
Oh what a virus writers dream. A whole house on the fritz.
The internet is not the only thing being used as critical infrastructure. Look at cell phones. People use them everyday, and they are becoming the norm. It is even becoming the standard with number portability moving land lines to cell phones and not vice-versa. But are they reliable. One power outage and they fail, one emergency and the cell towers get overwhelmed. Oh well just another piece of technology we are addicted to that could easily fail us.
Just let the Red Cross run the whole thing. They are the protectors of the Geneva Convention, and headquartered in switzerland. That way we have an unbias group running it.
well, I dont know if I would call it failing. But lets just look at their business model.
Students pay thousands of dollars to go to the school.
University installs big brother system
They dont have to worry about the RIAA coming after the university now.
Students get the shaft
University sells out
so do they make money or just loose their soul?
Is it Coincidence that the article has a picture that references microsoft. I think we found the principal virus source. Well they did their job fast.
agreed, especially since none of the gestures they have listed have any form of real interaction with the website. They all the fuctions seen in the standard button.
The question is what precident is their for the FBI to demand that the OnStar be FBI friendly. I easily see teh FBI demanding this, and this going to court with OnStar saying they dont have to do that.
only thing i use aol cds for is putting them into the microwave.
yeah but nothing is 100%.
this will help with dealing with the large scale problem, you still have viruses that will get around these.
This is an interesting approach that may prove to be effective. The problem in the past in fighting viruses is that you have to have each individual computer updated. Most computers just were not updated regularly, despite the development of automatic systems. But by placing stragic routers across the internet and having them filter through these you could effectively fight viruses as effectively as any AV software could. I know my university scans all incoming e-mails and cleanses them, i think i have only once in my career here then recieved an infected e-mail. You do get into some ethical dilemas if you implement this on a global scale though. is it ok for the backbone of the internet to filter content? Its one thing for an ISP to do this, but what if a country like china wants to deam certain traffic dangerous and have them cleansed by the routers as well. (maybe not the best example since they do have the great china firewall, but you get the picture)
besides it should be common sense that if you want true security you need to develop it your self. Otherwise you are trusting people like microsoft to make you secure.
I had a friend back in high school made his own encryption program, thing works like a charm. Not that hard to make an undecypherable encryption scheme.
let me see if that works on my computer. I have been looking for some good encryption. *(%$ #$&$* #$@ F* Fh982345*#%hds
The price will eventually go down, give it time. But as for tapping, it does create a problem for the agencies that would want to listen in. They of course would not publish if there is a back door, and maybe all you need to listen is the software running on the listening device? That information would be highly secretive.
I find it funny that the Netherlands tap more phones a year. I wonder if that is true or just because half of what agencies do over here is classified. There no oversight of how many people actualy are tapped. Remember for the longest time the NSA was a very classified organization and no one even knew of its existence.
And didn they just come out with some ethernet cards for the commodore 64. Which way are we going 64 bits or 8 bits.
Military already has these. While most information about them is classified, thy are about palm size and are little planes not helicopter like devices. They also done work with miniblimps. and they do just that they have little video cameras. Its not very pratical to use these means for bombing. You cant get that much explosive on one of them and still have them undetectable. Also, when the military likes to make things go boom, they do it with a little more panache.
Its like saying the gamecube is better than a playstation 1. There years appart good thing they made a product that is more advance than something that has been out for a couple years.. Go progress.
i give you 150 for that set up and pay for shipping and handling.