Enabling and encouraging people who don't know programming to write code for your platform is no better than encouraging people who don't know civil engineering to build bridges for your roads.
Yes, but to do otherwise is requiring a civil engineer to paint your house.
The internet is a beautiful example of what happens when power is divulged to the many. You may argure that this isn't really a good thing, but nobody would dispute that the internet will be fading away anytime soon.
That was his point.
The last thing we need is a flood of insecure, buggy crap giving Linux a bad name.
Hello? Ever taken a look a sourceforge? I hate to tell you this, but insecure buggy crap is already prevalent. The argument is whether or not allowing as many people as possible to write code easily will move Linux forward, and I agree with the orignial poster that it will.
If the Linux development community needs anything, it's fundamentals -- a deeper understanding of computer science (as opposed to code monkeying), relational database theory, functional languages, interface design (not that MS is much better)
At it's core the statement is directly against the GPL, and related philosophies. Limiting access to reasources through either hiding the code (ala closed source) or requiring vast amounts of technical know how is directly contradictory to having the freedom to control your own computers your way.
I know I stretched your arguement a little to make a point, but the road you're on is very rocky indeed.
Assuming the thrft analogy (an issue in itself), if I stole a chocolate bar from a store, the owner does not have the right to smash up my car, however justified he may feel himself to be.
The developers recourse is to contact the police/proper authorities, not to inflict harm like some sort of cyber-vigilante.
This is illegal in every sense, whether "just" or not.
Anyone affected by this would do well to file a claim in court.
This is why they don't let people like you near the money.
Do you have any idea how much it costs to hire a person these days, both in up front costs and other employee's (as in HR) time?
Don't you think it would be cheaper to hang on to the person you know and trust by simply retraining them?
Ok so you're probably trolling... but there are many out their that do think exactly like your comment... usually unemployed, because although they know a lot about the computer world, they know nothing of business.
Sorry if it wasn't obvious enough, but I would assume that heavy internet users tend to those that focus their lives around a computer.
Most of these are generally more educated than those who don't, hence the "push" towards broadband.
It's really not a slight at anyone, just a casual observance. The countries on that list have a higher number (% of population) of say, high school grads that the US.
Simply put, the two reasons the US ranks behind is twofold:
Education: As a percentage of population the US, has a smaller "educated" class.
Government Funding: There is a large segment of the popluation that is opposed to taxpayers funding anything that isn't intended on blowing something up.
Because of this, initiatives that aren't purley profit driven are very slow to catch on.
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Enabling and encouraging people who don't know programming to write code for your platform is no better than encouraging people who don't know civil engineering to build bridges for your roads.
Yes, but to do otherwise is requiring a civil engineer to paint your house.
The internet is a beautiful example of what happens when power is divulged to the many. You may argure that this isn't really a good thing, but nobody would dispute that the internet will be fading away anytime soon.
That was his point.
The last thing we need is a flood of insecure, buggy crap giving Linux a bad name.
Hello? Ever taken a look a sourceforge? I hate to tell you this, but insecure buggy crap is already prevalent. The argument is whether or not allowing as many people as possible to write code easily will move Linux forward, and I agree with the orignial poster that it will.
If the Linux development community needs anything, it's fundamentals -- a deeper understanding of computer science (as opposed to code monkeying), relational database theory, functional languages, interface design (not that MS is much better)
At it's core the statement is directly against the GPL, and related philosophies. Limiting access to reasources through either hiding the code (ala closed source) or requiring vast amounts of technical know how is directly contradictory to having the freedom to control your own computers your way.
I know I stretched your arguement a little to make a point, but the road you're on is very rocky indeed.
Considering it's version 1.0, can we upgrade this PR to the vanilla 1.0 when it comes out, or will I have to uninstall it again?
This is a major shortfall for any real deployment: read other that my personal pc.
Assuming the thrft analogy (an issue in itself), if I stole a chocolate bar from a store, the owner does not have the right to smash up my car, however justified he may feel himself to be.
The developers recourse is to contact the police/proper authorities, not to inflict harm like some sort of cyber-vigilante.
This is illegal in every sense, whether "just" or not.
Anyone affected by this would do well to file a claim in court.
This is why they don't let people like you near the money.
Do you have any idea how much it costs to hire a person these days, both in up front costs and other employee's (as in HR) time?
Don't you think it would be cheaper to hang on to the person you know and trust by simply retraining them?
Ok so you're probably trolling... but there are many out their that do think exactly like your comment... usually unemployed, because although they know a lot about the computer world, they know nothing of business.
How about crappy stuff coming IN?
As in trojans, etc getting onto the network because some doofus thought it would be cute to use his ipod as a storage device between home and work...
distance would be in kilometers.
Slashdot's international so you may be excused, but in the US American's do (if they bother) vote directly for their president.
Compared to the rest of the world.
Just because you're comparing them to gun-toting religious freaks doesn't mean they're liberal.
Osama is pretty conservative, does that make him the smartest?
You won't see Chomsky calling bush a liar.
And that's why the average joe knows nothing about Chomsky, or his (very intellegent) opinions.
Moore speaks to the average american.
you try to sound smarter than you are:
It's you're not your when you mean to say you are.
Maybe if yuo find out what the law is you can let us know too.
with whatever replaced the sr-71...
you didn't feel like putting your name on that comment.
At least one teaser link would have been nice
Are you suggesting taxes are theft?
Sorry if it wasn't obvious enough, but I would assume that heavy internet users tend to those that focus their lives around a computer.
Most of these are generally more educated than those who don't, hence the "push" towards broadband.
It's really not a slight at anyone, just a casual observance. The countries on that list have a higher number (% of population) of say, high school grads that the US.
here's a thought:
I know this must be tough for you to understand but government funding of project is neither a "good" nor "bad" thing. It's just a thing.
When people insert their stupid ideologies into single issues nothing gets done.
Or, to use your example:
On what basis do *you* get to take *my* broadband/healthcare/transportation system so *you* can have lower taxes/a ferrari/a mansion?
The state is the people. Welcome to society.
Simply put, the two reasons the US ranks behind is twofold:
Speaking of education, I should learn to proofread.
Simply put, the two reasons the US ranks behind is twofold:
Education: As a percentage of population the US, has a smaller "educated" class.
Government Funding: There is a large segment of the popluation that is opposed to taxpayers funding anything that isn't intended on blowing something up.
Because of this, initiatives that aren't purley profit driven are very slow to catch on.
That's about the same as Canada. $40 CDN a month is average, but you can get it as cheap as $20 sometimes.
Microsoft makes a commercially viable product...
exactly.
Stop visiting sites made by your next door neighbour's 12 year old son.
Up here in Canada, if you're on broadband, you're a tool. Even the most illiterate users are off dial up.
The rest of the first world welcomes you.
Tungsten T3 @ $450 + WiFi card @ $125 = Treo.
And you get a phone and camera with the Treo.