"Though other reports indicates that taikonauts abroad SZ 7 will return to Earth on September 28, the official said the ship will remain in the orbit to be docked with unmanned Shenzhou 8 and 9. Finally, the manned spaceship Shenzhou 10 will be launched and dock with the other three, completing the space station."
If they fly each ship up and, "Snap", it with another, how are the Taikonauts getting home?!?
Are they going to make those folks hoof it back? Hitch a ride with the shuttle? Some cool new parachute technology they have been holding back?:)
Part of the point of this is that it takes an incredible amount of time and money to send something into space. Adding one more flight will not be a huge issue, because there is a rescue flight scheduled for the last current shuttle flight. But after that to add a flight would be a ton of work. With the knowledge that the shuttle program was coming to an end the ability to make the antique parts that the shuttle flies on is diminished, as no one makes them anymore. (To give an idea of how old the hardware is, the navigation system runs on something like 512 K) It would cost in the order of $400 million dollars per additional flight. Also, to speed up Constellation it would cost hundreds of millions of dollars per month, and even with expanded funding there is a limit to how fast it can be realized. In short, everyone is asking for money, NASA included, and lots of people question how important manned space flight actually is.
I hear you and hear what the figures say. I think though it's hard for people to let go.
For my parents generation it was the Gemini and Apollo missions.
I was born in '70 so I was too young, but the shuttle missions! That's what I remember and still think of when 'NASA' is mentioned.:)
"Personally I think what is needed in IT is some form of apprenticeship program, a way to bring in new people who are interested but who don't come pre-equipped with a master's in CE."
Well, yeah... that was my point for citing my start as in, "It was called, "Supplemental Student", employment. I am not afraid to say that I eventually left school to learn via OJT. 15 years later I am now on an Network Architect team."
I was a CS major at one time.:)
I just don't want to see the options go away by having a cut and dried requirement to be degreed before entering the field.
I think a lot needs to said for self starters who want to pursue their training outside of a class room.:)
I agree with what you said, except for one small nitpick..Which is to say Joe Bob with his Master Electrician badge is more fit to wire your house than a guy with a PhD in electrical engineering who has 20 years experience in the field
Joe Bob may be better qualified. Code changes from year to year, and I doubt an electrical engineer is going to be up one specifics of what gauge wire is appropriate for a given number of electrical outlets to feed, or how far the circuit breaker must be from the gas line. The electrical engineer undoubtedly would have a better theoretical understanding, but I would not want him wiring my house.
But I think a valid point is many of us in the IT field are, "Joe Bob", to some extent.
I learned my craft by jumping through the hoops starting in the early 90s with my fist IT position in a data center. Things moved a whole lot faster outside the classroom than in and I would say much of the same is true.
It was called, "Supplemental Student", employment. I am not afraid to say that I eventually left school to learn via OJT. 15 years later I am now on an Network Architect team.
How many others are, "Joe Bob"? How many got there start this way and put there time in without that degree? How many of us would even had gotten a start if the requirements were different?
I am also not saying, "Joe Bob" rules or being degreed is the way to go. I am just saying in this field you have options on how to get your education and training and I would hate to see that changed by those who don't know their way to the raised floor.
Thanks... Joe
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Perhaps my original post was a bit too salty?:)
At any rate I do find it troubling to see this on the horizon.
I do not really care for my web browser to do anything other than display useful information and be efficient at doing it.
I also do not want my browser to be a flashing billboard on the information super highway.:)
Whether it's on my desktop or on my smart phone. I would prefer that be executed as quickly and quietly as possible without any crashes, hangs, or complaints.
Perhaps I am showing my age, but once upon a time browsers did that you know, before they became something like the those annoying billboards in, "Minority Report".
I honestly think IE should have stopped at 6.X, 7.X has been constant trouble for me.
Thank you for the discussion! Joe
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Ok, so In a consumer market that's headed toward mobile devices that can deliver a decent web experience and are getting smaller and smaller each quarter.
These two Leaders of industry come out with new browsers that would only be suitable for a multi core desktop?
Speaking of those multi core machines. When was it ever written that just because the hardware gets better and cheaper that applications get fatter and more resource hungry?
I hadn't thought about drawning a comparison between spamming and armed robbery.
I could however see equating it with the strategy the Goverment has taken with Terrorist organizations and the charities that fund them.
I could see the headlines now...."The Acme company has had it's assets frozen by the IRS after it was learned they invest heavily in spamming organizations."
"On July 28th the informant gave his handlers proof that their own sensitive documents were circulating in the underground marketplace they'd been striving to destroy. He'd obtained a log of an IRC chat session in which a hacker named "Myth" copy-and-pasted excerpts of an internal Secret Service memorandum report, and a Mutual Legal Assistance Treaty from the Russian Federation. Both documents are described in the Secret Service affidavit as "highly sensitive information pertaining to ongoing USSS criminal cases."
At the agency's urging, the informant made contact with Myth, and learned that the documents represented just a few droplets in a full-blown Secret Service data spill. The hacker knew about Secret Service subpoenas relating to government computer crime investigations, and even knew the agency was monitoring his own Microsoft ICQ chat account. "
This wasn't just a few, "Hey Bill how ya doing, are you free for lunch!" messages...
You NEVER go production without rolling it out on the test box first. Then if there's a problem address it if it's within your realm or go back to the developers with the dump.
I guess my point was, logisticaly it would be a huge effort to glean useful information unless you had a specific target and even then your talking about many man hours to spend still.
IBM has had the same feature for many years with it's Mainframes, NCPs, and 317X controllers.
They would run a POTS line to the equipment and if it encountered a, "Condition", it would phone IBM Service. Then you have dispatch send out a CE to investigate.
Linux Market share? Well, I am more interested in the fact that Linux gives me market freedom.
If it weren't for Linux, I never would have learned that there is a whole different life waiting for users outside of the, "Windows".:)
So for me, freedom comes before cost...
Just my.02:)
Although I like what Jackson has done with the movies, I am not totaly in agreement with what is being done/said about Faramir.
I think Boromir and Faramir are opposite sides of the same coin. Boromir is the more action oriented, while Faramir tends to think first.
That's probably why he isn't on Denethor's good side at all. Denethor wanted the ring and in the book I don't recall Boromir asking too many questions as too why? He told Boromir to go and it was good... and Boromir went to the council for the sole purpose of recovering the ring to be used by Gondor, errr Dad.:)
To me, Boromir was more glory minded than Faramir. Yes, they both have good intentions and wanted to do whatever to save Gondor. However, I think Boromir also saw the reward of personal glory as a big bonus. That's how I saw the ring getting to him in the end.
Faramir on the other hand, asked plenty of questions and tried to see the big picture. Whereas Boromir tended to live in the moment more.
Faramir didn't have the same blind obedience that Denethor saw in Boromir. Denethor wanted action not council, nor someone second guessing him.
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"Though other reports indicates that taikonauts abroad SZ 7 will return to Earth on September 28, the official said the ship will remain in the orbit to be docked with unmanned Shenzhou 8 and 9. Finally, the manned spaceship Shenzhou 10 will be launched and dock with the other three, completing the space station."
If they fly each ship up and, "Snap", it with another, how are the Taikonauts getting home?!?
Are they going to make those folks hoof it back? Hitch a ride with the shuttle? Some cool new parachute technology they have been holding back? :)
Take care all,
Joe
Part of the point of this is that it takes an incredible amount of time and money to send something into space.
Adding one more flight will not be a huge issue, because there is a rescue flight scheduled for the last current shuttle flight. But after that to add a flight would be a ton of work. With the knowledge that the shuttle program was coming to an end the ability to make the antique parts that the shuttle flies on is diminished, as no one makes them anymore. (To give an idea of how old the hardware is, the navigation system runs on something like 512 K)
It would cost in the order of $400 million dollars per additional flight. Also, to speed up Constellation it would cost hundreds of millions of dollars per month, and even with expanded funding there is a limit to how fast it can be realized.
In short, everyone is asking for money, NASA included, and lots of people question how important manned space flight actually is.
I hear you and hear what the figures say. I think though it's hard for people to let go.
For my parents generation it was the Gemini and Apollo missions.
I was born in '70 so I was too young, but the shuttle missions! That's what I remember and still think of when 'NASA' is mentioned. :)
Take care....
I think OS/2 suffered from a warp core breach.
And how!
Just after they were caught by the Borg leader Gerstner and resistance was futile. :)
Couldn't resist!
Take care.
Ahh show some respect. :)
Long before there was talk of Linux supplanting Windows, it was OS/2.
I was one of them, from version 2 through Warp 4. Let the Star Trek puns rain down on me for that one! :)
Take care all.
Just my .02 worth :)
"Personally I think what is needed in IT is some form of apprenticeship program, a way to bring in new people who are interested but who don't come pre-equipped with a master's in CE."
Well, yeah... that was my point for citing my start as in, "It was called, "Supplemental Student", employment. I am not afraid to say that I eventually left school to learn via OJT. 15 years later I am now on an Network Architect team."
I was a CS major at one time. :)
I just don't want to see the options go away by having a cut and dried requirement to be degreed before entering the field.
I think a lot needs to said for self starters who want to pursue their training outside of a class room. :)
Thanks.
Joe
I agree with what you said, except for one small nitpick. .Which is to say Joe Bob with his Master Electrician badge is more fit to wire your house than a guy with a PhD in electrical engineering who has 20 years experience in the field
Joe Bob may be better qualified. Code changes from year to year, and I doubt an electrical engineer is going to be up one specifics of what gauge wire is appropriate for a given number of electrical outlets to feed, or how far the circuit breaker must be from the gas line. The electrical engineer undoubtedly would have a better theoretical understanding, but I would not want him wiring my house.
But I think a valid point is many of us in the IT field are, "Joe Bob", to some extent.
I learned my craft by jumping through the hoops starting in the early 90s with my fist IT position in a data center. Things moved a whole lot faster outside the classroom than in and I would say much of the same is true.
It was called, "Supplemental Student", employment. I am not afraid to say that I eventually left school to learn via OJT. 15 years later I am now on an Network Architect team.
How many others are, "Joe Bob"? How many got there start this way and put there time in without that degree? How many of us would even had gotten a start if the requirements were different?
I am also not saying, "Joe Bob" rules or being degreed is the way to go. I am just saying in this field you have options on how to get your education and training and I would hate to see that changed by those who don't know their way to the raised floor.
Thanks...
Joe
Perhaps my original post was a bit too salty? :)
At any rate I do find it troubling to see this on the horizon.
I do not really care for my web browser to do anything other than display useful information and be efficient at doing it.
I also do not want my browser to be a flashing billboard on the information super highway. :)
Whether it's on my desktop or on my smart phone. I would prefer that be executed as quickly and quietly as possible without any crashes, hangs, or complaints.
Perhaps I am showing my age, but once upon a time browsers did that you know, before they became something like the those annoying billboards in, "Minority Report".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQbVD5hlddk
Also, but not to start a flame here, I cite the following sources as to where things appear to be going for the average consumer.
http://www.healthcareitnews.com/story.cms?id=9575
http://news.cnet.com/Mozilla-aims-for-mobile-browser-market/2100-1032_3-5483683.html
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2006/aug/21/business.newmedia
I honestly think IE should have stopped at 6.X, 7.X has been constant trouble for me.
Thank you for the discussion!
Joe
Ok, so In a consumer market that's headed toward mobile devices that can deliver a decent web experience and are getting smaller and smaller each quarter.
These two Leaders of industry come out with new browsers that would only be suitable for a multi core desktop?
Speaking of those multi core machines. When was it ever written that just because the hardware gets better and cheaper that applications get fatter and more resource hungry?
Just my .02
I think your damned if you do and damned if you don't.
Your damned if you disclose, Black Hats can read the Kernel News groups, Butraq, and other popular outlets just like the rest of us do.
Your damned if you don't disclose and a breach occures. The public will cry, "Security through Obscurity!"
I hadn't thought about drawning a comparison between spamming and armed robbery.
I could however see equating it with the strategy the Goverment has taken with Terrorist organizations and the charities that fund them.
I could see the headlines now...."The Acme company has had it's assets frozen by the IRS after it was learned they invest heavily in spamming organizations."
They talk about going after spammers, but maybe what they need to do is go after these companies that invest in them.
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If the spammers didn't have these companies funding them, then I dare say they wouldn't last very long.
just
Gee, I hope Gmail wasn't the secret service's plan B option for email use.7 50227&tid=172&tid=215&tid=158
http://yro.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/01/12/0
Forgive the formatting... :) Hit submit before changing to plain text! Doh!
"On July 28th the informant gave his handlers proof that their own sensitive documents were circulating in the underground marketplace they'd been striving to destroy. He'd obtained a log of an IRC chat session in which a hacker named "Myth" copy-and-pasted excerpts of an internal Secret Service memorandum report, and a Mutual Legal Assistance Treaty from the Russian Federation. Both documents are described in the Secret Service affidavit as "highly sensitive information pertaining to ongoing USSS criminal cases." At the agency's urging, the informant made contact with Myth, and learned that the documents represented just a few droplets in a full-blown Secret Service data spill. The hacker knew about Secret Service subpoenas relating to government computer crime investigations, and even knew the agency was monitoring his own Microsoft ICQ chat account. " This wasn't just a few, "Hey Bill how ya doing, are you free for lunch!" messages...
Why on earth is the Secret Service of the United States using T-Mobile as an ISP/Email provider?
What's next? The FBI, CIA, etc is compromised while using hotmail, Yahoo, or Google mail?
Are Gov IT cutbacks so severe they have to turn to places like this to send messages?
Err...That's why we have test boxes.
You NEVER go production without rolling it out on the test box first. Then if there's a problem address it if it's within your realm or go back to the developers with the dump.
Thanks for the info.. :)
I guess my point was, logisticaly it would be a huge effort to glean useful information unless you had a specific target and even then your talking about many man hours to spend still.
Sure, that's how to obtain the information.
.02
How do you filter it down to something to get to the interesting stuff?
I remember experimenting with promiscuous ethernet cards and a sniffer on my home lan.
I could grab all the traffic, but to sift through it looking for something useful? Very tedious.
Are there legions of US Gov folks scanning this? Or some monster software app doing it automagicaly? Carnivore comes to mind....
Just my
The IT staff will probably be enjoying Mr. Herns, "Donations", for quite some time.
IBM has had the same feature for many years with it's Mainframes, NCPs, and 317X controllers. They would run a POTS line to the equipment and if it encountered a, "Condition", it would phone IBM Service. Then you have dispatch send out a CE to investigate.
Yeah, I am still waiting for my flying car and domestic robot to all my chores. :)
Linux Market share? Well, I am more interested in the fact that Linux gives me market freedom. If it weren't for Linux, I never would have learned that there is a whole different life waiting for users outside of the, "Windows". :)
So for me, freedom comes before cost...
Just my .02 :)
If I were Autozone, I'd just ask Jesse James to go help Darl McBride get in the, "Zone". :)
Then maybe SCO would come to their senses?!#& :)
I have been, "Reloading", Windows for years. I don't need a new version for that just for that purpose. :)
Although I like what Jackson has done with the movies, I am not totaly in agreement with what is being done/said about Faramir.
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I think Boromir and Faramir are opposite sides of the same coin. Boromir is the more action oriented, while Faramir tends to think first.
That's probably why he isn't on Denethor's good side at all. Denethor wanted the ring and in the book I don't recall Boromir asking too many questions as too why? He told Boromir to go and it was good... and Boromir went to the council for the sole purpose of recovering the ring to be used by Gondor, errr Dad.:)
To me, Boromir was more glory minded than Faramir. Yes, they both have good intentions and wanted to do whatever to save Gondor. However, I think Boromir also saw the reward of personal glory as a big bonus. That's how I saw the ring getting to him in the end.
Faramir on the other hand, asked plenty of questions and tried to see the big picture. Whereas Boromir tended to live in the moment more.
Faramir didn't have the same blind obedience that Denethor saw in Boromir. Denethor wanted action not council, nor someone second guessing him.
Just my