Many office product worked just fine before the day of MS Office. Microsoft used the 800 pound gorilla standard as a means of purging the market of all but their own. That is not technical elegance wins the day, that is not ease of use wins the day, that is not fair competition of features, abilities and ideas. and that is certainly not sticking to or even creating a new standard. Novell had perfectly good Apps what crushed the certainly was not a superior product.
And here we go again..
In the beginning the singularity was void and without (much of anything), then BLIND CHANCE said "Let there be Quanta!" and the morning and the evening of the first femtosecond........And the Hawkings radiation begat energy, and the energy begat matter, yea even unto the event horizon... Hey the only Genesis I know well was made by Sega...
unfortunately I cannot quote the source; it was a humor book on legal foolishness I read some 20 years back. but. I do think if you google "hay" and "taxi" you will find that Australian taxi cabs are by law still required to carry a bail of hay in their "boot" to feed the no longer existing horse.. a left over from English law governing 19th cent Hansom cabs in London. Britian HAS repealed it but I think it is still ont he books in other commonwealth countries.
In the early days of automobiles, there were laws written concerning the hay the new transport would consume. Legal systems are by their nature designed to look backward for precedent not forward. Those attracted to this profession share this basic nature.
You seem to be confusing the word "standard" with "defaul..." As I said above: parachutes all have the same release. Explain your semantics to that user between 8 and 6 thousand feet. I am a user, not a programmer. Granted a somewhat well versed user. You can point out your profession's particulars if you like it does nothing to ease the frustrations of the users of your products, I am sure it feels good though to have words and "well documented APIs) that say in a long winded manner "It just don't work"
so...he screws us (meaning consumers) and the Feds take his ill gotten boodle? He is in reality a revenue stream generator for money to a fed alphabet soup? this trend is common in many fields; Steal, relinquish money to a Fed fine, plea bargin, released; start new company, mix and repeat
Yep Standards. they are why parachute releases all look the same... Standards that have meaning, makes sense, can be relied on can be trusted. Standards... like the fixed interface of the right click on the task bar for just one example? Fixed. unchanging. complies with Microsoft standards. any applcation, right click the icon and the bottom option on the menu is "Close" ANY application. . Standards. everyone abides.
Everyone except...Microsoft that is..
Right click the icon for say Active Directory or Computer Managment. or other MS apps
What is the bottom selection here?
"Help topics".
If Microsoft designs a UI in a standard way why do they not obey their own standard? one word: Arrogance. Your argument would apply if it were true, but it is not true. IE 7 is designed the away it is due to arrogance. and maybe a touch of lazy.
This from a "user" not a developer: I just this last week tried IE 7 for the very first time. As a user of IE 6, Opera, Firefox, Safari, and having used Every browser from lynx Cello and Mosaic up through the offerings of today, I am not unfamiliar with various browser styles, feel, ways of doing things. From my early experience with it, I can say that 7... to use a standard automobile analogy: The engineer is 5' 2". He designed the seat fixed in one position and not adjustable. The rearview mirror fixed in positon as well; Seat belt? forget it! He likes the parking brake in the back seat so that's how it is going to be. Microsoft seems to have an irrepressible arrogance when it comes to design. They also seem to have a less then stellar competence in other areas. The former seems to be a fall back for lack ehibited in the later. IE 8 is from the same designers? No thank you
This process only needs water to make the fuel right? Sounds like this is Just the complimentary package we need to accompany MY new invention:
Dehydrated Water!
It comes in this special little pill you see. you just stick it in any tank and add water...
good point. I would suggest reading up on Dr Feynman as a precursor. Or, for those who prefer the flickering screen; there are several video interviews with the great man. One from Horizon called "The Pleasure of Finding Out" is VERY watchable. Also his book "Surely You're Joking Mr Feynman" is a hoot! Highly recomended. Richard Feynman is one of the greatest safe crackers who ever lived and in the top 10 of minds of the 20th Century.
At 28 you have PLENTY enough experience in this quarter and you are quite right. I would venture to guess that as with almost every such ideas in history; events will overtake the planners. Look at the pre WWII plans for a new service rifle in the UK. Look at the pre WWI plans for a rifle in the US; we did field the 1903 Springfield but war called for so many rifles we had to press an alternate design (1917 Enfleld) into service. And those examples are just far less costly infantry weapons. Here we are discussing a more complex and expensive platform. I am sure much money will be spent ont his, but then costly military exercises from the Great Wall to the Majinou Line have always facinated generals, and in the end have all proven not so useful..
----and it is certainly a case of d**ned if you do and dam*ed if you don't:
Recently I had issues with a game I purchased. I finally figured out that the reason it refused to play was the machine I had this game on was not networked in an expected way and the game's DRM wanted to handshake with the company to let me play it. In the process of figuring this out I also figured out a crack for the DRM they were using and passed on my discovery to the company. I paid for the game, I like the company, and thought it neighborly to let them know that the commercial DRM they used was pretty shaky. A week later I received a general email announcing a new delivery system for their games (with new and "improved" DRM). It works even worse then the previous. I also figured a new crack. THink I will shut up this time...
BAH! and you call yourself Scientists! Global Warming only happens to keep the Earth Egg properly nurtured until it cracks open vomiting the spawn of the Old Ones into the chaos. Don't worry though; it will only happen when the middle of the Earth starts thinning measurably and... oh dear...
In the 1980s I spent a while working a night shift job and this weaned me from the televison habit; The only TV available in my off hours was daytime TV. Thus, I read books instead.
Facinating thing reading; you use your mind to generate the special effects and in spite of no ability to run the film fast, change hue and color depth to things never found in reality, and above all: not need to leave a cliff hanger for a general apeal for brighter teeth, or some poorly built automobile.
A few years back I found a device that allowed me to connect my computer directly to a TV and thereby play avi and mpgs. well then. that is more like it! Since my tastes run far more to the documentary, my machines now have terrabytes of storage devoted to how to build a Michelson-Morely interferometer and what it means to the "Ether", how bosons become bozos in Bose-Einstein condensation, or the French perspective on the Lousiana Purchase. Somehow, the drug addictions of Hollyweirdos has no effect on my TV viewing these days... let the strike continue...
the first Firewire drives built to the 1394 standard were firewire direct. Granted they cost a bucketful! FirewireATA, Firewire SCSI and the like interfaces soon came and cut the price since Seagate et al said a big NO to native Firewire in an industrial way.. Now, my point was: Firewire is easy to use, supplies power, can be daisy chained like SCSI (more then one drive on a port) comes in the 400 and 800 flavors, and I have used it for many years on both PC and Mac. External SATA strikes me as similar to the REAL reason behind ISA-EISA-MCA-PCI or FPM-EDO-SDRAM-DDR-DDR2-DDR3 that is: Gee WHiz its faster! , and KA-CHING goes the cash register when a form factor requires buying new. I remember when SATA showed up and was OH SO MUCH FASTER then PATA or when Vista was better then XP.
I know what instant boot is: I used to use a Compact Macintosh SE running System 6. I defy ANY modern opsys to go from power off to up and I can click an app as quickly as that system. Funny thing: A document created on that system, with gee whiz wow fonts and spiffy graphs on a 8.5 X 11 paper sheet, looks just like a modern machine creates. decades later I still get a sheet of paper
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Many office product worked just fine before the day of MS Office. Microsoft used the 800 pound gorilla standard as a means of purging the market of all but their own. That is not technical elegance wins the day, that is not ease of use wins the day, that is not fair competition of features, abilities and ideas. and that is certainly not sticking to or even creating a new standard. ..
Novell had perfectly good Apps what crushed the certainly was not a superior product.
And here we go again
well whatever the outcome, the Moore the merrier. Thats the law.
I for one do NOT welcome our overlords... Three Liberty.... frequent watering required.....
In the beginning the singularity was void and without (much of anything), then BLIND CHANCE said "Let there be Quanta!" .......And the Hawkings radiation begat energy, and the energy begat matter, yea even unto the event horizon... Hey the only Genesis I know well was made by Sega...
and the morning and the evening of the first femtosecond.
unfortunately I cannot quote the source; it was a humor book on legal foolishness I read some 20 years back. but. I do think if you google "hay" and "taxi" you will find that Australian taxi cabs are by law still required to carry a bail of hay in their "boot" to feed the no longer existing horse.. a left over from English law governing 19th cent Hansom cabs in London. Britian HAS repealed it but I think it is still ont he books in other commonwealth countries.
In the early days of automobiles, there were laws written concerning the hay the new transport would consume. Legal systems are by their nature designed to look backward for precedent not forward. Those attracted to this profession share this basic nature.
You seem to be confusing the word "standard" with "defaul..."
As I said above: parachutes all have the same release. Explain your semantics to that user between 8 and 6 thousand feet.
I am a user, not a programmer. Granted a somewhat well versed user. You can point out your profession's particulars if you like it does nothing to ease the frustrations of the users of your products, I am sure it feels good though to have words and "well documented APIs) that say in a long winded manner "It just don't work"
so...he screws us (meaning consumers) and the Feds take his ill gotten boodle? He is in reality a revenue stream generator for money to a fed alphabet soup? this trend is common in many fields; Steal, relinquish money to a Fed fine, plea bargin, released; start new company, mix and repeat
Yep Standards. they are why parachute releases all look the same... Standards that have meaning, makes sense, can be relied on can be trusted. Standards...
like the fixed interface of the right click on the task bar for just one example? Fixed. unchanging. complies with Microsoft standards. any applcation, right click the icon and the bottom option on the menu is "Close" ANY application. . Standards. everyone abides.
Everyone except...Microsoft that is..
Right click the icon for say Active Directory or Computer Managment. or other MS apps
What is the bottom selection here?
"Help topics".
If Microsoft designs a UI in a standard way why do they not obey their own standard? one word: Arrogance. Your argument would apply if it were true, but it is not true. IE 7 is designed the away it is due to arrogance. and maybe a touch of lazy.
This from a "user" not a developer:
I just this last week tried IE 7 for the very first time. As a user of IE 6, Opera, Firefox, Safari, and having used Every browser from lynx Cello and Mosaic up through the offerings of today, I am not unfamiliar with various browser styles, feel, ways of doing things. From my early experience with it, I can say that 7... to use a standard automobile analogy: The engineer is 5' 2". He designed the seat fixed in one position and not adjustable. The rearview mirror fixed in positon as well; Seat belt? forget it! He likes the parking brake in the back seat so that's how it is going to be.
Microsoft seems to have an irrepressible arrogance when it comes to design. They also seem to have a less then stellar competence in other areas. The former seems to be a fall back for lack ehibited in the later. IE 8 is from the same designers? No thank you
This process only needs water to make the fuel right? Sounds like this is Just the complimentary package we need to accompany MY new invention:
Dehydrated Water!
It comes in this special little pill you see. you just stick it in any tank and add water...
good point. I would suggest reading up on Dr Feynman as a precursor. Or, for those who prefer the flickering screen; there are several video interviews with the great man. One from Horizon called "The Pleasure of Finding Out" is VERY watchable. Also his book "Surely You're Joking Mr Feynman" is a hoot! Highly recomended. Richard Feynman is one of the greatest safe crackers who ever lived and in the top 10 of minds of the 20th Century.
problem with Chinese horror movies is.... they are good and all that, but..... an hour later.....
At 28 you have PLENTY enough experience in this quarter and you are quite right. I would venture to guess that as with almost every such ideas in history; events will overtake the planners. Look at the pre WWII plans for a new service rifle in the UK. Look at the pre WWI plans for a rifle in the US; we did field the 1903 Springfield but war called for so many rifles we had to press an alternate design (1917 Enfleld) into service. And those examples are just far less costly infantry weapons. Here we are discussing a more complex and expensive platform. I am sure much money will be spent ont his, but then costly military exercises from the Great Wall to the Majinou Line have always facinated generals, and in the end have all proven not so useful..
----and it is certainly a case of d**ned if you do and dam*ed if you don't:
Recently I had issues with a game I purchased. I finally figured out that the reason it refused to play was the machine I had this game on was not networked in an expected way and the game's DRM wanted to handshake with the company to let me play it. In the process of figuring this out I also figured out a crack for the DRM they were using and passed on my discovery to the company. I paid for the game, I like the company, and thought it neighborly to let them know that the commercial DRM they used was pretty shaky. A week later I received a general email announcing a new delivery system for their games (with new and "improved" DRM). It works even worse then the previous. I also figured a new crack. THink I will shut up this time...
RIAA= Lawyers. Judges= lawyers who got a promotion. Do you see a pattern here? "justice" is what you want, legal is what you get.
BAH! and you call yourself Scientists! Global Warming only happens to keep the Earth Egg properly nurtured until it cracks open vomiting the spawn of the Old Ones into the chaos. Don't worry though; it will only happen when the middle of the Earth starts thinning measurably and... oh dear...
There really ARE Gnomes in Zurich? or is that all still secret...
Can I be the first to call "Godwin's Law?"
In the 1980s I spent a while working a night shift job and this weaned me from the televison habit; The only TV available in my off hours was daytime TV. Thus, I read books instead.
Facinating thing reading; you use your mind to generate the special effects and in spite of no ability to run the film fast, change hue and color depth to things never found in reality, and above all: not need to leave a cliff hanger for a general apeal for brighter teeth, or some poorly built automobile.
A few years back I found a device that allowed me to connect my computer directly to a TV and thereby play avi and mpgs. well then. that is more like it! Since my tastes run far more to the documentary, my machines now have terrabytes of storage devoted to how to build a Michelson-Morely interferometer and what it means to the "Ether", how bosons become bozos in Bose-Einstein condensation, or the French perspective on the Lousiana Purchase. Somehow, the drug addictions of Hollyweirdos has no effect on my TV viewing these days... let the strike continue...
the first Firewire drives built to the 1394 standard were firewire direct. Granted they cost a bucketful! FirewireATA, Firewire SCSI and the like interfaces soon came and cut the price since Seagate et al said a big NO to native Firewire in an industrial way.. Now, my point was: Firewire is easy to use, supplies power, can be daisy chained like SCSI (more then one drive on a port) comes in the 400 and 800 flavors, and I have used it for many years on both PC and Mac.
External SATA strikes me as similar to the REAL reason behind ISA-EISA-MCA-PCI or FPM-EDO-SDRAM-DDR-DDR2-DDR3 that is: Gee WHiz its faster! , and KA-CHING goes the cash register when a form factor requires buying new. I remember when SATA showed up and was OH SO MUCH FASTER then PATA or when Vista was better then XP.
GOSH! they might even invent... Firewire! Who'da think it.
Careful, you might 42 49 4E Hex the whole thing.....
Talking to scientists is can be ever so tiring. Some days you are just too pooped to Pope.....
I know what instant boot is: I used to use a Compact Macintosh SE running System 6. I defy ANY modern opsys to go from power off to up and I can click an app as quickly as that system. Funny thing: A document created on that system, with gee whiz wow fonts and spiffy graphs on a 8.5 X 11 paper sheet, looks just like a modern machine creates. decades later I still get a sheet of paper