I have a screen shot on a computer around here someplace of a browser alert window pointing out the cert domain doesn't match the domain. It was about 2-3 years ago. I can't remember for sure but I think it was www.paypal.com (the cert) didn't match paypal.com (which is what I type in).
The points remain: 1) People don't care if the cert is valid or not or in many cases if it's even signed by a root auhority the browser knows about 2) There are lots of errors in certs the browsers ignore; if they didn't damn few, if any would work.
In a world where even PayPal can't get it right (and nobody cares) what does it matter?
"Oh, it's an https site. It's encrypted. Cool". Next.
Some time when you're really bored look at the low level ssl stuff (with openssl or something) and notice all the errors. The browsers ignore so many of these I think it's all a big joke.
" willing to live up to that level of professionalism"
Funny. The day after email was invented the snooping began. I've seen it since the 70s. I knew a sysadmin of a well known california site that read EVERYTHING; absolutely nothing is safe.
If you don't want somebody else to see it, never type it.
Thank you for one of the most human, inspirational and poignent posts on slashdot ever and for pointing out in this crazy world that we know nothing from the rubbish that pretends to be news and that is is possible to find peace. Good for you. I'm impressed.
Cameroon. I have some Dutch friends that go trapzing all over Africa and South America to collect weird little fish (killifish) and these are not short trips. They tell me Cameroon or Uruaguay are the places they'd most like to retire to.
"The same thing is in place for registering.us domain names"
You must give verifiable (in theory) information for ALL domain names in the ICANN/US Government controlled root. Proof your identity is bogus is grounds for losing the domain.
Fair comment. People want stuff to work and with mapquest no longer working witn windows 98 because of this (even with the latest Opera) one is forced to believe he cure is worse than the disease.
Flashy is good. Working is better.
Hopefully in the next 10 years they'll get the bugs out.
I take it there's no sugar in this crap. I assume it's got Aspartame in it. This meands migraine sufferes and epileptics cant drink it.
When diet coke came out I drank a bunch. And had a seizure. "But I'm not epileptic" says I. "You are now" says the doctor. "Aspartame is well known to aggrivate epilepsy and migrains but they wat they pushed Aspartame through the FDA was unsusual and we didn't find out till later. There will be no warning labels".
It used to be you could look for the pink Nutra-Sweet (sic) swirl but that's gone and now you have to be really careful this crap is in everything from most gum to nearly all soft drinks whether they say diet or not: case i point that new coffee/coke drik coke makes. Sugar ana Aspartame.
I've been using Mapquest since it came out. It's really pretty good. I tried it a few days ago and it's been web 2.0'ized and no longer works on my W98 box.
Stop laughing, all I want windows to do is launch Opera and SSH and nothing more, and on a dial up line out here in the (dialup only) countryside it makes more sense than XP that can't update itself fast enough before getting trashed.
Mapquest will no longer show me a map as their Web 2.0 nonsense doesn't work in the latest Opera (it should) or last weeks IE. Thanks guys.
Other annoyances: goons that insist a "go" or "submit" button be a graphic. I just wasted some drustrating minutes doing the stupid annual address verification thing for some clients domains. I sit there waiting for the graphic for the "go" button to show up. Come on baby, you can do it, any day now, nice ads, uh huh, yeah come on OH there it is! Click.
Twits.
I swear the web is a lot less usable than it was 5 years aho. Everybody wants to be as slick as Google which is fine, but don't break your app in trying (and failing) to achive that.
In 1983 I mentioned to our European head of marketing I'd just improved the floppy formatting program; we worked for a computer manufacturor.
"How?" says he.
"I took out the verification step".
"You fucking moron. People don't care how fast, people care it actually WORKED".
Oh, good point.
This is a point needs to be written on a cluebat and hammered home to all those Dilberteque managers throught the kingdom. Pretty is nice, but working is better. At least make it a frigging option.
But don't do it like google - you can selete "plain html" (instead of web 2.0) in gmail, which works, but try to manage any options and you're told "this doesn't work in plain html". Hello?
The problem as I see it is the developers and their bosses are technodweebs but those pesky things out there we call "users" have decepid crifty old technology. But they are our customers. They in a large part, occupy the part of the ecosystem that have direct control over our paychecks. And not only are they dumb as a bag of hammers, but they have computers salvaged from the Spanish American war. That's why I like to assume their technology when developing stuff, just as I liked to used to prefer to develop from a floppy way back when before hard drives were ubiquitous: I wanna be able to count disk accesses and I want it to be small.
Know they customer. Know (exactly!) what your program is doing.
I'm not much of a (book) reader any more (damn net) but I couldn't put this 900 page international best seller down. And if you like this story you'll really enjoy this book.
"This comes to a price of 12 cents per kilowatt hour. I don't know about you, but I pay substantially more than that for my electricity."
Here in Ontario it's 5.8 cents a kilowatt hour and it's about to go down a (little) bit as the jerks that privatized it let the prices double in the past few years and there was some discontent about this.
And Ontario is NOT the place for solar power, trust me on this.
But, there's more microhydro setups in this immediate area than anywhere in the world. A quick and dirty wooden paddle wheel driving a car alternator and it'll charge a trolling motor battery.
Windpower is also reasonable here. Somplace on the net there's instructions for building a 5 kilowatt one out of disk drive magents and an airplane propellor (but I've lost track of if and am too lazy at the moment to spend some quality time with google looking for it).
As for why there isn't more of this stuff I'm reminded of what John Klensin told me when I asked him as an MCI employee why long haul circuits were still so expensive. Grinning, he said "lets' just say that those of us in a position to do something about it have the least economic incentive to do so".
Why do I get the impession this is like people that drive all over town to save a penny on the price of gas then spend twice as much as they should on say, bell peppers and underwear cause they just aren't careful.
IMO you should worry about this chit AFTER you've coverted every light bulb in your house to CFL. Until then you're just pissing money away.
Whoever advised spamhaus to ignore this suit had a really bad case of poor judgement. "Your honour here's where they spammed, and we choose to list them in our database which people choose to pay attention to" is all it would have taken. (Unless I'm missing something, but I don't think so).
If e360 persues this they will and can eventually get any domain pulled for which there is a registrar.
I'm not sure if they can get their.arpa name pulled though, if in fact they own one.
But, it's probbaly easier to just break down the organization and start again as something with a different legal personality.
Even cooler: post the list to usenet with a proper cryptographic signature and let e360 suck on that for a few decades.
"Considering e360 lied and claimed that Spamhaus has a place of business in Illinois, and they are based in the UK with NO US offices, I hardly think an Illinois judge has the right to strip them of their domain. And even if it does happen, big whoop. In under 5 minutes, Spamhaus.co.uk will be up and running - lets see a US judge take that domain away...."
Oh what lack of faith in lawyers have you.
You're missing the point that every (legacy) domain name on the planet is under the aegis of ICANN, which is a California corporation. As a single point of failure it's been pointed out many times that this sort of thing might happen. It still might.
If people agree this is how it should work no court in the world will ever be able to do again what the illinois court is about to do. The first criticism that shows up will be "but this use of an alterative domain balkanizes the net" to which my response would be "anybody useing spamhaus is already using a balkanized net".
The implementation of this is left as an exercise to the reader but there are many way to do it and many organizations that will help. Of course, aw always, the mere threat of this happening may be enough for ICANN to not force their domain to be shut off.
"Not trying to troll, but even WMP has better playlist functionality"
Is it frame accurate? If something is to go to air at "midnight" you have to hit it within 1/30th of a second. You cant afford one frame-time error. Ever.
People have mentioned failover. Probbaly overkill as it's really really expensive to get right and the premise is you have a human in the booth than can cut to a "we're experiencing technical difficulties" page, err screen.
Disclaimer: I used to work at Sony and developed the CBC's dubreel compilation system.
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"paypal gets a lot right"
I have a screen shot on a computer around here someplace of a browser alert window pointing out the cert domain doesn't match the domain. It was about 2-3 years ago. I can't remember for sure but I think it was www.paypal.com (the cert) didn't match paypal.com (which is what I type in).
The points remain:
1) People don't care if the cert is valid or not or in many cases if it's even signed by a root auhority the browser knows about
2) There are lots of errors in certs the browsers ignore; if they didn't damn few, if any would work.
In a world where even PayPal can't get it right (and nobody cares) what does it matter?
"Oh, it's an https site. It's encrypted. Cool". Next.
Some time when you're really bored look at the low level ssl stuff (with openssl or something) and notice all the errors. The browsers ignore so many of these I think it's all a big joke.
" willing to live up to that level of professionalism"
Funny. The day after email was invented the snooping began. I've seen it since the 70s. I knew a sysadmin of a well known california site that read EVERYTHING; absolutely nothing is safe.
If you don't want somebody else to see it, never type it.
I use the phone a lot.
"Running away is the wrong reaction."
What about that Mayflower/King George thing?
"Move to another country? Hell no. Regardless of what Administration is running this country there isn't another I would rather live in."
Just out of curiosity have you lived anywhere else?
A Sala'am Alakim.
Thank you for one of the most human, inspirational and poignent posts on slashdot ever and for pointing out in this crazy world that we know nothing from the rubbish that pretends to be news and that is is possible to find peace. Good for you. I'm impressed.
"Did I miss any?"
Cameroon. I have some Dutch friends that go trapzing all over Africa and South America to collect weird little fish (killifish) and these are not short trips. They tell me Cameroon or Uruaguay are the places they'd most like to retire to.
"Canada is another option, but it doesn't really seem all that different than the US."
You're out of your fucking mind. Just drive across the border. The Detroit/Windsor one is most noticable but any one will do.
"That alone is worth spending one's life here"
Modulo the fact every form of indiginous life form is highly lethal and wants to kill you. Bad.
"The same thing is in place for registering .us domain names"
You must give verifiable (in theory) information for ALL domain names in the ICANN/US Government controlled root. Proof your identity is bogus is grounds for losing the domain.
Fair comment. People want stuff to work and with mapquest no longer working witn windows 98 because of this (even with the latest Opera) one is forced to believe he cure is worse than the disease.
Flashy is good. Working is better.
Hopefully in the next 10 years they'll get the bugs out.
"NAFTA ruling, and how our new PM bent over."
Hey, that's Vice President Harper to you, buddy.
"but look for the PHENYLKETONURICS: CONTAINS PHENYLALANINE"
That's US only. Not in Canada.
I take it there's no sugar in this crap. I assume it's got Aspartame in it. This meands migraine sufferes and epileptics cant drink it.
When diet coke came out I drank a bunch. And had a seizure. "But I'm not epileptic" says I. "You are now" says the doctor. "Aspartame is well known to aggrivate epilepsy and migrains but they wat they pushed Aspartame through the FDA was unsusual and we didn't find out till later. There will be no warning labels".
It used to be you could look for the pink Nutra-Sweet (sic) swirl but that's gone and now you have to be really careful this crap is in everything from most gum to nearly all soft drinks whether they say diet or not: case i point that new coffee/coke drik coke makes. Sugar ana Aspartame.
Enough already.
Nice timing.
I've been using Mapquest since it came out. It's really pretty good. I tried it a few days ago and it's been web 2.0'ized and no longer works on my W98 box.
Stop laughing, all I want windows to do is launch Opera and SSH and nothing more, and on a dial up line out here in the (dialup only) countryside it makes more sense than XP that can't update itself fast enough before getting trashed.
Mapquest will no longer show me a map as their Web 2.0 nonsense doesn't work in the latest Opera (it should) or last weeks IE. Thanks guys.
Other annoyances: goons that insist a "go" or "submit" button be a graphic. I just wasted some drustrating minutes doing the stupid annual address verification thing for some clients domains. I sit there waiting for the graphic for the "go" button to show up. Come on baby, you can do it, any day now, nice ads, uh huh, yeah come on OH there it is! Click.
Twits.
I swear the web is a lot less usable than it was 5 years aho. Everybody wants to be as slick as Google which is fine, but don't break your app in trying (and failing) to achive that.
In 1983 I mentioned to our European head of marketing I'd just improved the floppy formatting program; we worked for a computer manufacturor.
"How?" says he.
"I took out the verification step".
"You fucking moron. People don't care how fast, people care it actually WORKED".
Oh, good point.
This is a point needs to be written on a cluebat and hammered home to all those Dilberteque managers throught the kingdom. Pretty is nice, but working is better. At least make it a frigging option.
But don't do it like google - you can selete "plain html" (instead of web 2.0) in gmail, which works, but try to manage any options and you're told "this doesn't work in plain html". Hello?
The problem as I see it is the developers and their bosses are technodweebs but those pesky things out there we call "users" have decepid crifty old technology. But they are our customers. They in a large part, occupy the part of the ecosystem that have direct control over our paychecks. And not only are they dumb as a bag of hammers, but they have computers salvaged from the Spanish American war. That's why I like to assume their technology when developing stuff, just as I liked to used to prefer to develop from a floppy way back when before hard drives were ubiquitous: I wanna be able to count disk accesses and I want it to be small.
Know they customer. Know (exactly!) what your program is doing.
Mapquest fails this test.
Or worse, John Conway's "Game of Life"
You might wanna go read The Swarm
I'm not much of a (book) reader any more (damn net) but I couldn't put this 900 page international best seller down. And if you like this story you'll really enjoy this book.
"Microsoft already has solar power on its campus.
Something seems odd about installing solar panels in a city famous for grey overcast skies, but the panels work nonetheless. "
Solar power in Washington, like Windows, does work. Just not very well.
"This comes to a price of 12 cents per kilowatt hour. I don't know about you, but I pay substantially more than that for my electricity."
Here in Ontario it's 5.8 cents a kilowatt hour and it's about to go down a (little) bit as the jerks that privatized it let the prices double in the past few years and there was some discontent about this.
And Ontario is NOT the place for solar power, trust me on this.
But, there's more microhydro setups in this immediate area than anywhere in the world. A quick and dirty wooden paddle wheel driving a car alternator and it'll charge a trolling motor battery.
Windpower is also reasonable here. Somplace on the net there's instructions for building a 5 kilowatt one out of disk drive magents and an airplane propellor (but I've lost track of if and am too lazy at the moment to spend some quality time with google looking for it).
As for why there isn't more of this stuff I'm reminded of what John Klensin told me when I asked him as an MCI employee why long haul circuits were still so expensive. Grinning, he said "lets' just say that those of us in a position to do something about it have the least economic incentive to do so".
Why do I get the impession this is like people that drive all over town to save a penny on the price of gas then spend twice as much as they should on say, bell peppers and underwear cause they just aren't careful.
IMO you should worry about this chit AFTER you've coverted every light bulb in your house to CFL. Until then you're just pissing money away.
Whoever advised spamhaus to ignore this suit had a really bad case of poor judgement. "Your honour here's where they spammed, and we choose to list them in our database which people choose to pay attention to" is all it would have taken. (Unless I'm missing something, but I don't think so).
.arpa name pulled though, if in fact they own one.
If e360 persues this they will and can eventually get any domain pulled for which there is a registrar.
I'm not sure if they can get their
But, it's probbaly easier to just break down the organization and start again as something with a different legal personality.
Even cooler: post the list to usenet with a proper cryptographic signature and let e360 suck on that for a few decades.
"Considering e360 lied and claimed that Spamhaus has a place of business in Illinois, and they are based in the UK with NO US offices, I hardly think an Illinois judge has the right to strip them of their domain. And even if it does happen, big whoop. In under 5 minutes, Spamhaus.co.uk will be up and running - lets see a US judge take that domain away...."
Oh what lack of faith in lawyers have you.
You're missing the point that every (legacy) domain name on the planet is under the aegis of ICANN, which is a California corporation. As a single point of failure it's been pointed out many times that this sort of thing might happen. It still might.
The answer? http://spam.haus/
If people agree this is how it should work no court in the world will ever be able to do again what the illinois court is about to do. The first criticism that shows up will be "but this use of an alterative domain balkanizes the net" to which my response would be "anybody useing spamhaus is already using a balkanized net".
The implementation of this is left as an exercise to the reader but there are many way to do it and many organizations that will help. Of course, aw always, the mere threat of this happening may be enough for ICANN to not force their domain to be shut off.
DNS policy is a weird little ecosystem.
I have (and still have) seril #11 of the A1000.
Some feller called Matt Dillon ported bash to the Amiga very early on.
"Not trying to troll, but even WMP has better playlist functionality"
Is it frame accurate? If something is to go to air at "midnight" you have to hit it within 1/30th of a second. You cant afford one frame-time error. Ever.
People have mentioned failover. Probbaly overkill as it's really really expensive to get right and the premise is you have a human in the booth than can cut to a "we're experiencing technical difficulties" page, err screen.
Disclaimer: I used to work at Sony and developed the CBC's dubreel compilation system.
Now if they can only breed out the other annoying undesirable traits cats have. Should only take about a thousand years.
"Down kitty, no I'm not a scratching post AAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEE"
And to think some people PAY for vasectomies.
Fucking cat.
"Problem is, this requires surgery so it is not a DIY project."
Wimp.