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Calorie Burning Coke Coming Soon
The Fun Guy writes "Coca-Cola and Nestle are getting together to introduce a new beverage "proven to burn calories". Enviga will be in the U.S. Northeast in November, nationwide in January 2007. How does it burn calories? With green tea extracts, calcium, and caffeine. No word on how many milligrams caffeine per can. "
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In a world of acronyms, the words are the real victims.
"Enviga increases calorie burning. It represents the perfect partnership of science and nature," said Dr. Rhona Applebaum, chief scientist, The Coca-Cola Company. "Enviga contains the optimum blend of green tea extracts (EGCG), caffeine and naturally active plant micronutrients designed to work with your body to increase calorie burning, thus creating a negative calorie effect.
Oh man this is such a lie..... Did they perform metabolic chamber analysis? Where is the published paper? Why do people *always* seem to fall for marketing nonsense like this? Look, the only way to lose weight is to burn more calories than you consume. It's calories in versus calories out and Enviga, metabolically will not let you magically burn more calories by consuming it unless it can somehow short circuit the electron transport chain or mitochondrial respiration and that is dangerous as hell. (Think poisons like dinitrophenol or proteins in brown fat like thermogenin).
It's too bad, because I like Coca Cola products, but this claim that it will burn excess or extra calories is simply a marketing lie. And yes, I *do* have a PhD in physiology and am calling out Dr. Rhona Applebaum to back up her words with some scientific evidence that shows these claims are more than specious marketingspeak designed to increase the bottom line.
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"Optimum blend of green tea extracts (EGCG)"
Nearly every single word on here is marketing buzz speak. Boo.
I don't know what University Dr. Applebaum threw money at to call herself a doctor but I certainly hope I never attend it. Call me a hardass but Applebaum just lost any respect from me that 'doctor' & 'chief scientist' could have given her.
Did anyone else notice that this sounded like a 3 am infomercial for Bowflex?
My work here is dung.
Drink enough acid, it will melt off the calories (so long as you have somewhere to excrete out the sludge).
Enviga + Viagra = Senior Citizen Health Plan
It's called water. If this works, this will be coca-cola's greated scam.
Coke will never be part of a healthy diet and should stop pretending.
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It looks to be a spoonerism away from "vagina".
Danke tres mucho, tovarishch.
No one here cares just how much caffeine is in the drink.
'Cause its never enough.
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Diet Coke already has zero calories and a "safe" amount of caffeine. If you're not immune or allergic to the effects, it should provide a temporary stimulation that encourages you to get up and move, thus burning calories... right? I think this one burns more calories because they intend to only sell it at stores that are uphill from you, so you have to walk uphill and burn more calories...
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Does anyone remember that SNL skit w/ Jim Carrie... he was doing some infomercial about some weightloss product and catch phrase was "ride the snake". I have a vauge recollection of Will Ferrel, the devil, and bleeding from the eyes. Anyways... this product reminds of that... bleeding from the eyes.
I see. The John Belushi and Robin Williams diet?
Where were you when the voynix came?
So here's a picture of the cans.
On another note I can think of one beverage that is zero calories and makes you feel great. Just plain old water. I started drinking a couple liters of it a day about 2 years ago and I've never felt better. No more dehydration to make me feel sluggish and tired. That's way better than any caffiene buzz (which just exacerbates dehydration by the way). I love caffiene, but I think it's overused.
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We've had calorie burning coke for a while. Apparently this new product isn't as hard on the nose.
Similes are like metaphors
The can weighs over 50 lbs and periodically yells slogans at you.
"Feel the burn!"
"Go for it!"
And soforth.
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The flavors seem to be Berry, Peach and Green Tea... not cola. So calling it a new coke is like saying that minute maid is coke. Which it isn't. Not even Sprite is Coke. Sorry to bust all of your bubbles.
As a fan of green tea, I'll certainly give this a shot. But they'd probably better lay off of the calorie burning claims lest they run afoul of the FDA in the US at least. So if Red Bull gives you wings, will this drink burn your handles, (love handles that is)?
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I'm taking those speed pills of yours, and I'm wearing the vibrating heat beads, and by "Riding your Snake", not only have I lost 65 pounds in four days, but guess what? I found out I'm the Devil! And I will wash over the Earth, and the seas will run red with all the blood of all its sinners! I am reborn! And I've got YOU to thank, Jimmy Tango! http://snltranscripts.jt.org/95/95ttango.phtml
This proves it, Wired magazine really does find artifacts from the future
(see pg 176 Wired 14.8)
I can't wait for someone to invent al the other stuff they've found!
Even if the claims are true, this new softdrink would burn only a few calories more than a glass of cold water.
"The can weighs over 50 lbs and periodically yells slogans at you. "Feel the burn!" "Go for it!" And soforth."
ugh.
Where were you when the voynix came?
Looks like the only thing they know it does is cause people who are already too thin to get thinner.
What do you mean they cut the power? How can they cut the power, man? They're animals!
Put it in a 20lb can and voila! you burn calories with every swig!
Even without a PhD in physiology I would agree that it burns extra calories. This is however not so hard to achieve, so why should it be a marketing lie?
You are certainly right that you have to burn more calories than you consume but why should there be no "magic" thing that increases the amount of burned calories without having so much calories itself? I think this is exactly what is happening here. Lets say the drink contains 50 calories, increases your metabolism to burn 20 extra calories per hour through caffeine, green tea or something else. After three hours this drink has the claimed "negative calorie effect".
is supposed to burn more calories than it contains, so would be a "calorie burning food" but this is a drink, so... is it supposed to increase your metabolism or something?
It is better to light one candle than to curse the darkness.
http://www.gizmodo.com/gadgets/gadgets/enviga-fat- burning-tea-snake-oil-scam-just-as-you-predicted-2 08488.php
Maybe if you got a few more editors there, you would have known that every other news site on the face of the internet reported AND debunked the claims over a week ago.
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A limited November release followed by a full January 2007 release sounds pretty close to Vista's schedule. Hopefully this won't suck as badly.
I drink green tea - sometimes with milk! Much cheaper.
meh
...of this article from a few months ago, and seems to warrant little more credibility.
I left my wallet in El Sigundo!
Funny how, as others have mentioned, one can never get a copy of any of the supposed studies which 'prove' whatever it is the product claims. Like Kevn Trudeau and his scam or the now discredited DHEA claim, this too will be shown to be a false promise of getting something for nothing.
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Drinking any cold drink lowers your body temperature, thus burning a few calories in the process. Thus any cold drink which itself has zero calories (such as cold water or any diet soda) effectively has "negative" calories, albeit just a few. Reference: http://health.howstuffworks.com/question447.htm/
A government big enough to give you everything you want is big enough to take away everything you have.
It looks to be a spoonerism away from "vagina".
Well, yeah -- and who wouldn't want to buy one of those?
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If it is ice cold then your body must burn calories to warm it up to 98.2 F / or 36.8 C (the REAL average human body temperature - 98.6 is what you get when you round 36.8C upto 37C then convert Farenhiet).
One calorie (phyics) will raise one gram of water one degree. 454 grams = 16 ounces. So to raise 16 ounces of ice cold water from 0.8 C to 36.8 takes 36*454= 16,344 calories. But please note when talking about food, what we call a calorie is actually what a physicist calls a KILOcalorie, so we do the conversion and:
Drinking one nearly ice cold water 16 ounce bottle of water will burn about 16 calories.
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Does it taste right when mixed (with liqour)? If so, I think I have my new workout plan!
- Kal`Goblez
Basically, they say if you drink 3 of these a day and get some mild exercise you will burn x number of calories. When, in truth, drinking a current zero calorie beverage and getting the same amount of exercise will give you an almost equivilant result, and it will be $1 cheaper per can.
You are who you are, let no one tell you different. But, never close your mind to a new point of view.
Lets say the drink contains 50 calories, increases your metabolism to burn 20 extra calories per hour through caffeine, green tea or something else."
I'm assuming that you threw 20 calories per hour out there without really thinking through the implication. That would be 480 calories per day, or the equivalent of 45 minutes of cardio for many people... all by drinking a can of pop.
Even heart-hammering, ephedrine-based monsters used by bodybuilders can't claim that kind of result. All you'd do is sit around, twitch, and sweat all day.
It comes in a very heavy can.
The secret ingredient is furniture varnish. When you drink it, the varnish coats your intestines with an impermeable layer of lacquer that prevents any nutrients from entering your bloodstream for the next 72 hours. The result: eat anything you like, everything will have "zero calories"! (Side effects may include projectile diarrhea and starvation)
I don't care if it's 90,000 hectares. That lake was not my doing.
I honestly don't know if this drink does what it claims or true or not, but I find it amusing that so many people here find the idea of a drink that causes you to burn more calories than the drink provides to be outlandish. It's not at all. A glass of cold water does the exact same thing. Water has 0 Calories and if it's cold then your body burns calories to generate heat to warm the core of your body back up. Thus, cold water is a calorie burning beverage. This really isn't a crazy idea people. But, again, I don't know if this drink does the same thing or not, I'm just commenting on the other comments.
Wired had a similar product featured in "Found: Artifacts from the future" back in August. This is probably the fastest time between Wired imagining a product and it actually hitting the market.
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http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/14.08/images/f
Every month in wired there's an "found: artifacts from the future" picture. a few months ago it featured a soft drink product with negative calories.
Also there is a food already available that for all intents and purposes contains negative calories: Celery
All misspellings and grammatical errors in the above post are intentional and part of my artistic expression.
Just for reference, in the linked article they estimate that drinking an ice-cold (0 deg C), 16-oz glass of water "burns" about 17 Calories due to the energy required to heat it up to body temperature.
So as long as you wash down that 200 Calorie can of Coke with twelve glasses of ice water (and it really has to be borderline freezing -- no cheating!), you'll be running a net energy deficit.
I'm waiting for someone to recommend just turning the temperature in your house down and walking around naked as a form of exercise. What, shivering isn't aerobic?
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or The KFC 30 days to lower cholesterol program. What frickin' BS!
I'm sure it'll be both nutritious and delicious (note the sarcasm).
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1. Coca Cola delivery trucks are not, to my knowledge, equipped with Tesla-coil like devices capable of illuminating light bulbs by some kind of electrical induction the moment that they drive past them - even during the Christmas holiday period.
2. Having performed an experiment with a dead goldfish and a can of Coke, I can confirm that it indeed does not, as you so like to state, "add life".
3. I just wondered how the "Teaching The World To Sing" campaign is getting on since the heady days of the 70s? I realise that this vast undertaking will take a long time to complete but could I ask that you bump Britney Spears up the list a bit?
Having said all that, I'm afraid I must ask that you prepare yourselves for something of a shock - after many years of analysis and experimentation I'm afraid I have to conclude that you product is nothing more than a fizzy drink.
Kind Regards
A. Consumer
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Diet Pepsi Slurpees have been out for about three years now. A 32-ounce drink has essentially zero calories, and since it's mostly ice, it should take about 100 calories to drink one:
900 grams of Slurpee * 80 cal/g (to melt the ice to 0 celsius) = 72000
900 grams of Slurpee * 1 cal/g/degree * 37 degrees (to raise the fluid to body heat) = 33596
total 105596 calories or 105 Kcal (the food calorie)
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Too bad it's bogus. You probably can burn calories while drinking this, provided you're running a marathon at the time, but even when the Coke PR flack was on NBC's Today, she was careful not to say definitively that it did.
But wouldn't it be cool if it did?
...an article on coal gasification or something like that. By the way, how many calories do you get by burning coke?
"How to Do Nothing," kids activities, back in print!
Celsius (warning, PR link) is the same idea, is already on the market and has a cola flavor. I've yet to locate some, but I do get tired of berry-flavored drinks. No idea how good Celsius is or Enviga will be, but that's what taste tests are for.
The Coke site says that you'll need to drink three cans in order to burn between 60 and 100 calories.
A male weighing about 180 pounds burns off about 60 calories with 15 minutes of mild walking activity.
Hmm... that sounds like about the time it takes to make 3 trips to the drink machine, doesn't it?
I take it there's no sugar in this crap. I assume it's got Aspartame in it. This meands migraine sufferes and epileptics cant drink it.
When diet coke came out I drank a bunch. And had a seizure. "But I'm not epileptic" says I. "You are now" says the doctor. "Aspartame is well known to aggrivate epilepsy and migrains but they wat they pushed Aspartame through the FDA was unsusual and we didn't find out till later. There will be no warning labels".
It used to be you could look for the pink Nutra-Sweet (sic) swirl but that's gone and now you have to be really careful this crap is in everything from most gum to nearly all soft drinks whether they say diet or not: case i point that new coffee/coke drik coke makes. Sugar ana Aspartame.
Enough already.
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I thought the cans had a little speaker inside and when you crack it open it says "Run a mile, fatass!"
Small potatoes make the steak look bigger.
Oh, you mean that Coke.
"There has to be some calories lost with its caffeine and diuretic qualities"
Diuretics do not lead to increased calorie use. Diuretics lead to weight loss through water loss. Caffeine happens to do both.
Sure the green tea extracts and the caffeine will nominally speed up your metabolism...too bad they neglect to remember that carbonation slows it down.
Doesn't food take energy to digest? If the food takes more energy to digest then it provides you, isn't that a net loss? I'm assuming that humans could not function if digesting anything took a couple hundred calories, which would be the only way you could even have much of an impact by drinking this.
Calorie burning Coke:
*sniff* go ravin' and dancin' like crazy for about an hour you'll burn about 600-800 calories
The only teeth strong enough to eat other teeth!
... of marketing buzzwords
the more they over-think the plumbing the easier it is to stop up the pipe
Did anybody notice when something ridiculous like this happens, there's always an Onion story written about it previously? http://www.theonion.com/content/node/37491/
So this crap costs $1.49 a can. A BigMac has, like 800 calories?
So you have to drink twelve bucks worth to burn off the effects of a your BigMac while sitting on your ass.
I'm proud to be an American! We are such clear thinkers!
Give a man a fish and you have fed him for today. Teach a man to fish, and he'll say "WHERE'S MY FISH, YOU IDIOT?"
Also there is a food already available that for all intents and purposes contains negative calories: Celery.
And there's already a soda made from it: Dr. Brown's Cel-Ray. Been featured in a song too.
Of course, since I cannot remember the source, this is mere hearsay....
twm
You intensive clod!
Is this not a dirty rumor that is spreading? Somebody should be fined.
"I bought a humidifier and a dehumidifier, then I put them in the same room and let them fight it out"
There have been many, many studies about green tea (which contains a lot of EGCG) and obesity. This data is years old too... EGCG being useful in obesity isn't even news. Magic? Not hardly. Yes, 2,4-DNP is still the king of obesity drugs, but it hasn't been legal since 1930 in humans for a reason.
There are many ways to fight obesity, upregulating the metabolism is one of them. Decreasing the effeciency of processing/storing food, which results in more calories excreted in feces, is another. (think leptin signalling, hypothalamic setpoint, PPARalpha agonists, Xenical/chitosan... oh and EGCG does this with carbs) Changing behavior underlying emotional eating (low serotonin), food compulsions (neuropeptide Y), or lack of energy/desire to exercise is another. (antidepressants, stimulants) Changing hunger/fed signalling by improving leptin sensitivity/transport, insulin sensitivity, etc makes a difference too. (omega-3 fatty acids, oh and EGCG improves insulin sensitivity...)
EGCG:
1. Inhibits fatty acid synthase
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?db=p ubmed&cmd=Retrieve&dopt=AbstractPlus&list_uids=164 04708&query_hl=165&itool=pubmed_DocSum
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?db=p ubmed&cmd=Retrieve&dopt=AbstractPlus&list_uids=166 11078&query_hl=165&itool=pubmed_docsum
2. Upgrades hypothalamic AMPK to suppress adipogenesis and induce apoptosis of adipocytes
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?db=p ubmed&cmd=Retrieve&dopt=AbstractPlus&list_uids=162 36247&query_hl=165&itool=pubmed_DocSum
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?db=p ubmed&cmd=Retrieve&dopt=AbstractPlus&list_uids=159 76140&query_hl=165&itool=pubmed_DocSum
3. Increases fat oxidation, metabolism (likely through COMT inhibition and indirect gene expression)
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?itoo l=abstractplus&db=pubmed&cmd=Retrieve&dopt=abstrac tplus&list_uids=10584049
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?itoo l=abstractplus&db=pubmed&cmd=Retrieve&dopt=abstrac tplus&list_uids=10702779
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?db=p ubmed&cmd=Retrieve&dopt=AbstractPlus&list_uids=157 38931&query_hl=165&itool=pubmed_DocSum
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Any liquid that have less calories that is needed to bring its temperature to body temperature can be considered ...calorie burning... is it a significant amount of calories ? no
Ah marketing...
anybody willing to advertise cold water as calorie burning ?
Faster metabolism = faster aging.
The life-extension successes found with mice and rats all consisted of slowing down the metabolism, causing the little critters to triple their lifespans, at the risk of hypothermia if caught unprotected in a cold room.
So yeah, metabolic boosters will let you eat more for a given level of exercise, but they are aging your body in innumerable minor ways. Google for "eat less live more" for the same data I am speaking from.
I am a libertarian and a serious post-Objectivist, but I will admit that corporations are sociopaths: they simply maximize profits, with all else held secondary. Every individual employee of Coca-Cola might say 'I would never touch the stuff, no freaking way', and yet the incentive structure (stockholders, promotions, and the like) cause the overall organization to still vigorously and cheerfully produce and promote the product.
FATMOUSE + YOU = FATMOUSE
Every month in wired there's an "found: artifacts from the future" picture. a few months ago it featured a soft drink product with negative calories.
Drink cold water. Your body will burn calories to keep you warm. For that matter, these fad-ists should just go soak their heads in a bucket of cold water.
Also there is a food already available that for all intents and purposes contains negative calories: Celery
Mushrooms, too, IIRC. Love the taste of celery in soup, particularly the green leafy bits. :9
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Yeah. Would you choose a neurosurgeon who pokes around people's brains in his spare time? I wouldn't.
As far as I know, there has never been a study that shows that Diet soda leads to weight loss.
t m
But the opposite has been shown.
http://www.webmd.com/content/article/107/108476.h
Unless I greatly misunderstand the M.O. of a tapeworm, the reason you lose weight is because the tapeworm is eating your food. So the net effect is the same thing, you are taking in less calories. It's just rather than actually having to eat less, you feed some of them to a worm.
And hair. And teeth. And skin tone. And vitals, if you kept at it long enough..
I don't know about the rest of you, but my farts already smell like bakery fresh cinnamon rolls
A week from Sunday I'm running in the Marine Corps Marathon. At my weight/speed, that's about 3700 calories or 14 regular Snickers (51 fun-size Snickers). Of course, when I finish the race, I'm not really in a Snickers kind of mood. I'm always in the mood for oranges. Don't know why, though.
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The Bowflex actually works.
Drinking coke is associated with lower bone density in women. So if you don't like the prosprect of brittle bones in old age (osteoporosis), you may want to drink something else.
This is not my sig.
I work in a pharmacology department and several people here look at at EGCs so I was positive this guy was, at best, dramatically over-simplifying. A simple compound that reduces caloric absorption from food was the first thing that came to mind. Thank you for taking the time to PubMed it all and provide a great summary.
http://www.webmd.com/content/article/107/108476.ht m
Diet soda is more about marketing.
Switching to chemical drinks or chemical food will not magically make you loose weight. If it did, you should be alarmed.
If your body/mind craves sugar/fat, and you give it fake sugar or fake fat, not only will it taste bad, but your body/mind will find other foods to make up for the false foods.
Moderation would be the key thing to learn. If you switch to diet soda, and then find your self up-sizing to the half-gallon diet soda, then obviously you have not figured out moderation.
I don't know if this new drink is just the latest fake food from coke, but I am pretty sure it's not going to magically make skinny people.
The caffeine shakes that you get after drinking this will be the exercise that will cause you to lose the weight.
As long as it's primary ingredient is still High Fructose Corn Syrup, it'll still make you a fat ass. That's all there is to it. That shit is the bane of modern processed food.
Some of the comments of this article mirror the GitS:SAC episode plotline last night on adult swim (yes, I watch it, if only for Futurama, Family Guy, Ghost in the Shell and others). Someone from some nanomachine company (didn't catch who he was and what he did) was kidnapped again by the laughing man and was questioned as to why he didn't keep his promise after 6 years (the promise was to issue a press release saying that the nanomachines didn't do what they outlined in the patent they submitted).
"Beware of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart he dreams himself your master."
It's called coffee with artificial sweetener and non-dairy creamer. It's pretty revolutionary.
And I would know because I'm British and you Americans just need to *look* at our teeth!
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I ran the Marine Corps Marathon in '03 (4:39) and '04 (4:06). After the first one, my first thought was that I'm never running another marathon. Then I found out my time and realized that Oprah ran it faster than I did. Couldn't go down like that. This year, I'm hoping to beat W's PR (3:44).
Speaking of "Semper Fi", I once heard someone read aloud "Semper Fi, Dough or Dee". Think about it, it'll come to you. :)
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Otherwise known as a slashvert.
Just like this one from a while back (also posted by Taco), it's nothing but links to press releases on the Coca-Cola site.
Hey Taco... didn't you get your car from them yet?
...Rob
The American Dream isn't an SUV and a house in the suburbs; it's Don't Tread On Me.
...post-graduate work?
First off, your sentence is broken because you inserted "obtained" recklessly. Secondly, your position disagrees with Snopes.
Thirdly, your use of the thermic effect of food is a bit wonky. 10% is, first off, an average estimate. Protein can cost you as much as 30%. Fat costs you very little. Secondly, TEF describes how many calories you will spend consuming the food in question. Conversely, it can be used to calculate how many calories of a given type of food one would need to recover from expenditure. What a bomb calorimeter gets from food is clearly not the same as what a human body gets from it. There are plenty of things that humans can eat that cannot sustain them calorically. Just ask Metamucil...
Fourthly (never had to go that far before), just think about it:
Even drinking cold water causes you to burn calories. Your body ends up doing the work to bring the water up to body temperature. How would digesting a highly fibrous water-stalk not take effort?
Yes, celery has a few digestible kcals per stalk, but you more than outstrip that in digestion. Will those extra burned calories make a marked difference? God no, but you're still on the wrong side of the argument. Whipping out your PhD just shows how much trouble you are having defending your position. I certainly hope I never need any of your work. To be considered right in an argument, it helps to actually be right. I don't have a PhD, but if the point of getting one is to have something to wave around when you're clearly wrong, I think I'll pass.
In Soviet Russia...the worm eats you?
One of the Four Horsemen of the Apocolypse, Famine, was in the food business.
They talked about two of his finest products, F.O.O.D. and M.E.A.L.S., apologies for what the acronyms stood for. The general gist was something you could eat that made you fat, unhealthy, and malnourished. Or perhaps one of the products helped you waste away. For the character Famine, the desired result was a corpse, over whichever path.
The conclusion and relevance is obvious.
The living have better things to do than to continue hating the dead.
The astute will note that while they promote the heck out of Coke Zero and this new thing, they take the only mass distributed sugarfree/nutrasweet-free caffeinated cola off the market -- at least up here, Splenda coke has always been hard to find (grocery stores only) and you can no longer buy it in 2-liter bottles now, only cans, at that.
Splenda not having the same effects on the "comfort food" cycle, Splenda Coke probably already did have a negative total caloric impact and relatively moderate negative health impact.
While soda is pretty much never healthy, it's important to have intermediate products so that those who lack the willpower to change their ways can make incremental improvements. In this respect even neotame is better than nutrasweet (less of it used) but if companies insist on only marketing fad products that they only keep around until their ad buys are done, we'll stay stuck in aspartame-land forever.
Someone had to do it.
True, but it is a very, very, very small amount that it burns. Calorie vs calorie is a few orders of magnitude difference.
Forsooth! But these claimed negative calorie beverage are most likely to operate in the little-c range than the big-C range.
500 mL of my Xtal Geezer bubble water, raised from room temp (18C) to body temp (37C), that's about 19 degrees x 500g of water = 9,500 calorie or 9.5 Calorie, about the amount of energy in one Lifesaver candy, IIRC.
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What it's doing is exactly what Caffiene already does taken in large quantities.
It gets you wired. If you actually get up and move around to work off that sensation, yeah, you'll burn fat. DUH.
But if you don't, and you just sit around being wired, you won't burn a damn thing. Because the drink is not altering your metabolism.
Chas - The one, the only.
THANK GOD!!!
Now with extra coca!
I make my own drink: plain, unsweetened green tea with black pepper. I drink it on my 7-mile bike ride to work while fasting. My body has no choice but to burn fat - my wife loves the result. I suspect the sugar in Enviga is the problem. Also, the proven energy burning benefits of green tea require exercise - swigging Enviga while sitting in a chair is certainly not going to help.
Its nothing new.... only about 60 a gram from your "local neighboorhood pharmecutical specialist"
http://drinkcelsius.com/
Calorie burning energy drink. Been available at Target for quite some time now.
Tastes absolutely horrible, smells worse, and flies off the shelves faster than they can stock it.
"We've seen a shift in consumers' attitudes toward diet and health and wellness, with more consumers seeking product choices that support active lifestyles, rather than just eliminating things from their diet"
Potential English translations:
1. Some people want to be healthier, so they have stopped (or limited) their consumption of coca-cola products. Now coke needs another avenue of income.
2. Other people want to be healthier, but don't want to do it the right way, so coke needs to find a way to cash in on that.
Myself? I just drink water and tea and juice most of the time. I avoid things like high fructose corn syrup, caffeine and elevators.
When it comes to pastry theft, I take the cake.
I head about this...that white powder stuff that was huge in the 80s, right?
Drank too much coffee or coke and now you are feeling jittery?
I switched to drinking Yerba Mate in the mornings and never felt better. And it burns calories too because mateine suppresses your appetite and makes you feel full of energy so that you want to workout. Well, at least it does that to me.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mate_(beverage)
I buy 500 grams of dried leaves for $1 here in Brazil. Shouldn't be so much more expensive in the States.
You don't need a tropical climate to get sugar. Sugar beets grow quite nicely in states like Michigan.
It helps people clean their apartments too!
"Enviga" the vaginal disease drink
tasty!
It's how they get it to burn calories for you, Injected with tape worms and dysentary (sp, i know). I'm just tired of Coke getting free advertising from News Stations talking about this "unique" drink. Maybe coke sent out preformatted reports that everybody just read on the air.
Whether or not there is some sort of god, I'm not supposed to say/god is a word and the argument ends there-Smog
How's it taste with vodka?
Thats why I wear a tinfoil hat, keeps the parasites outta me head. Also prevents MRI machine from beaming "instruction" into my cortex. :P Seriously though, brain parasites just sound nasty (and are probably a real pain to get rid of I bet).
It was supposedly proven that smoking fags would help someone to lose weight. Yeah smokers lose weight, by a lung or two, but that's all.
hooorayy!
Columbia developed a product that sounds similar to this. You can read all about it here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cocaine/
just drink Green tea, and take Calcium. Or have Hot Green tea with Skim milk in it (I know your not supposed to, but its for the sake of the children, the fat children!). Or even better, have ice cold Green Tea, and maintain Calcium in your diet.
Better yet, eat less and better food fatty and move around every once in awhile. Its pretty simple, its not rocket science, its a lifestyle thing. Eat less food. Eat food that is good for you. Be active as you can. Thats my ultra secret formula, and it is patent pending so if any of you lose any weight, I will sue you.
Out.
I've been up for 164 hours, completed 7 projects for work, brought my orc mage to level 1029, and lost 34 lbs! Thanks, Coke!!
Power to the Penguin!
you burn calories any time you drink a cold water. cause warming up a liter of water by 10 deg Celsium takes 10 calories http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Calorie. so it's enough to drink a lot of ice-cold coke zero over long time, to get you really slim ;).
OCO is Loco
The beverage is basically flavored iced green tea which has been shown to promote weight loss. All teas (oolong, black, green) will promote weight loss to some extent but you still need to eat sensibly and excercise to maintain optimum health.
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BTW, I drink a cup of green tea a day either hot or iced and this is where I buy mine from:
http://www.denstea.com/index.php?main_page=index&
Lets say my can of Pepsi has 150 calories in it and does nothing good for me other than taste good and gimme sugar.
If some new Pepsi can has 150 calories in it, and has enough random crap in it to make me burn the 150 calories I just consumed, and it tastes the same or better, then I'm all for it.
I don't need a Pepsi that will make me burn more calories than I consumed, I don't even need a pepsi that makes me burn half the calories in the pepsi.. But if I can drink a pepsi that has 150 calories in it, and have it only net out to 100 calories since the stuff in it helped me burn 50 calories.. then that is good science.
taste fried ?
Drink a Coke product and go from looking like the comic book guy from the Simpsons, to a svelte lady's man while playing Everquest.
Now THAT would be great weight loss tool! Wishfull thinking I suppose...
Seriously, though, even if Coca-Cola was allowed to use the "original" formula, containing cocaine hydrochloride, they would still blow it with their lame marketing...
Is it just me, or did someone else read enviga and think it was a generic viagra at first?
Like these yummie fried coke nuggets?
d cokeoffbeat
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20061016/od_afp/usfoo
Prof. Farnsworth - "Oh a lesson in not changing history from Mr I'm-My-Own-Grandpa!"
A few months back Wired already had this as a prediction.
First I've heard of it (black pepper in green tea), but it doesn't appear to be his own invention:
http://www.whfoods.com/genpage.php?tname=foodspice &dbid=146
Goodie, I want more EGCG in my diet!
check out the name on the can. That's Nestea, not Nestle. I was wondering why a chocalate candy company would be making a tea product.
Greens contain healthy low molecular weight oils. More here.
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It's called "diet soda". If it contains no calories and it takes energy to ingest, it will lead to a net loss of energy.
If you can read this sig, you're too close.
I don't know how you define "inhuman" but, until recently, my body showed a clear metabolic rate of over 4500 calories a day, measured by counting my calorie intake and noting the point when weight started to drop, and without adding any activity to my normal sedentary lifestyle. That metabolic rate slowed when I attempted to move toward a more "healthy" diet. Instead of losing, I gained all the weight back that I had lost during the previous high-metabolism period, plus a bit, and my metabolic rate is now lower than before (~3000 calories a day).
In the case of humans, it's been proven more times than I can count, that obesity has many causes. Sure, metabolism plays a role, but it can also be caused by mental strain (depression, eating disorder, stress), sleep apnea in severe cases, some sort of organ dysfunction, certain medications, and most of all, the types of foods we eat. Think of the foods pushed at us today: breads, pasta, fruit juices, salty snacks, and so on. Now consider what's IN those foods - sugar, high fructose corn syrup, artificial colors/sweetners, preservatives, occasionally residual hormones and pesticides, and so on. Does anyone honestly believe these things are healthy??
Now, I've already said this once before weeks ago, but since there are already posts spouting off about exercise, and no one heard me last time, let me remind everyone once again:
Using figures I got from a recent seminar I went to on weight loss (which mostly correlate with my previous research), one pound of pure fat equals about 3800 calories. The average 250-pound human body burns at least 2000 calories a day during normal operation, plus some 400 calories per hour doing moderate-to-heavy exercise. Heavier people burn more, but the increase is not linear. Assuming you eat just enough to counter your body's "baseline" metabolic rate, if you wanted to lose just one pound, that means about 9.5 hours doing something relatively difficult like rapid stairclimbing, fast jogging/running, rafting, skiing, relay swimming, etc. Sure you could work off that 9.5 hours' worth over the course of a week, but that still works out to about 81 minutes a day, seven days a week. After a while, your metabolic baseline will rise, sure, but it would only barely make a dent in these numbers.
Now let's extend this. Last I knew, the US government says 2-3 pounds a week is a reasonably safe rate to lose weight. That's 7600 to 11400 calories, which works out to 19 to 28.5 hours a week or 2.7 to 4.1 hours per day, to burn those 2-3 pounds. My body has shown an ability to lose about 6 pounds a week, continuously, when I can afford to stay on a diet that actually works. If I stuck with these traditional figures and the standard philosophy of exercising to lose weight, that translates to 22800 calories, or 57 hours' a week (about 8.1 hours a day) of heavy exercise.
I'm sorry, but no matter how you slice it, that's just not a reasonable amount of exercise for anyone but a trained athlete, not matter how much you weigh. Whatever it is that the chemicals in green tea (and Coke's product) do, metabolism is still the process of turning food and body fat into energy, and if that energy isn't being used, it gets lost as excess body heat and chemicals in your urine (ketones) and stool. Increase the metabolism and something has to be burned, which results in an increase in waste heat and waste chemicals. That is not an opinion, that is a solid fact I had to find out for myself. When I'm losing, I run hotter as my rate of weight loss increases, I sweat more, and I have to drink more water to keep from dehydrating, plain and simple, and without adding any
Okay, so figure -32 Calories for each Diet Pepsi Slurpee. So, to lose 1 pound a month (a nice safe pace) without changing anything else in your diet...
1 lb fat = 3500 Calories
3500 / 32 = 78 Slurpees a month, or slightly more than 2.5 a day. Hmm. That's actually a lot less than I expected to see. Maybe the "Diet Pepsi Slurpee Diet" is actually reasonable. My 15 minutes of fame awaits!
Already exist here in Japan since more than one year on the market now. I have already been drinking some but it did not make me loose weight ;)
Lars
Dasani > simple purified waters like Aquafina and Alhambra > unfiltered natural spring water > tap water
Not sure why. Mineral content? Bottle?