Perhaps when we will continue to see violence in our world after the most of it has been wiped out from our entertainment (and that goes for sex, and profanity as well)
Heh...they always seem to forget that violence and profanity existed way before most people could read. Are we forgetting the crusades, the inqusition and a host of other wars?
Granted, the speed limit thing was a poor analogy.
However, you and the other poster that took issue with it failed to address my last point; are there any movies that if you remove all of the violent part, but keep the story and message of the movie intact? I never said it was censorship.
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2. Directors. If I was a director, I would be pretty upset with 3rd party disruption of my vision of a movie even if it doesn't fit one's approriate maturity level. The "If you can't handle it don't watch it" rule applies here, which I can totally empithize with. Refer to the Simpsons episode on censoring museums.
I agree here. Should we lower all speed limits to 25, become some people don't want to drive fast (or can't and still be safe)?
I also don't see the point. You watch an action flick, with all of the action removed, what are you left with?
They give examples of movies that would have violence left in b/c it would change movie too much, but what movie wouldn't be altered like that if the violence was removed?
Excessive is in the eye of the beholder. They could have made it $.01 and 1 day of jail per MP3/OGG, who is to say that's not excessive?
You're right, lets just make things simple; break any law, and you're executed. After all, who's to say what's excessive?
Perhaps some common sense will tell us. If someone downloads an entire album worth about $18, then it'd seem to follow that you are punished the same as if you had stole $18. So 1 year in jail plus $1000 fine is exessive.
I mean is a $1000 fine excessive for people who throw litter on the highways?
Ya, it is.
A number had to be picked, $1000 is what the people we voted for chose.
A number did have to be picked, but it shouldn't be arbitrary or exessive.
Oh, sorry. Just over a year. Not much different. My point stands, they are marking something only a few months old dead at the end of this year. I can under stand them dropping 6.2 this year, but not 8.0.
Hmm...well on the 2nd cd, i don't see much jumping around. There's some of the back and forth about his ex, a song about his mom, a couple of songs on gov't / recent events, a few about his kid(s) and the rest are about sex or how he think he made it. Don't hear much contradiction in there..
I can under stand Redhats actions as well. I think most people get upset because the MS upgrades happen so frequenctly.
I'm actually a bit suprised; the EOL for 8.0 (the CURRENT release) is only until the end of THIS year? Didn't the damn thing just come out last Sept?? So its total life time is less then one year. WTF?
Could also be that over time someones views change. You've never been mad at an ex-girlfriend, then missed her, then been mad again, and then ultimatly not care? I doubt that he writes the lyrics for all of his songs at once, and maybe his feelings on things change *gasp*.
Eminem is a perfect example of what's wrong with the current music industry.
What exactly is wrong w/him? I think his music is good (well, the 2nd cd...not the first). Just because he's a new artist and you happen not to like his music doesn't mean he's 'whats wrong with the industry.'
While i agree with the rest of your post, i think that piece is way off base.
If you people had a cop in the family or for a friend, you'd know that they the vast majority of them aren't nightsticking thugs or hellbent on invading your privacy. Yes, if you dig deep enough you will always find dirt and there are always a few rotten apples in the basket.
I did have a cop as a friend of the family. He confirmed that most ARE 'rotten apples', as you put it. That, coupled with the stories people have for being pulled over without cause leads me to belive the old saying: 'Power corrupts.'
Depends on what you buy. The video card i just got will keep me set for the next few years. Its also far better then then what comes in a ps2 or xbox...the graphics are already hampered by the fact that they are on a tv and not a monitor.
I'd rather update drivers then spend 75 for the 3 controllers they don't give you, 50 for the privledge of playing online, with 9.99 / month to keep a subscription (on top of the 50 i already pay for broadband), another $30 to watch dvds, another 25 for the hd connection, and 25 for a memory card.
Note that MS isn't to blame for this most likely; i had to wait quite a while for GTA3 on pc. I think its the fault of all these dopes that buy a console thats outdated a few minutes after you get home.
Yes, but they don't have a system that can very easily read all this stuff (except the ezpass tag). As far as the ezpass tag goes, i could always leaveit home if i watned to, or do what a friend of mine did, and leave it wrapped in foil under the seat.
Ya...i've heard of that. I thikn at first when they split 215 into 215 and 610 (the first time they added an area code) they said it wouldn't be long distance to call across the street if that was a different area code.
From what i heard though, this isn't the case. Different 215 to 610 is charged as intralata...regional long distance, as opposed to state to state long distance. Screwy, i know.
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Perhaps when we will continue to see violence in our world after the most of it has been wiped out from our entertainment (and that goes for sex, and profanity as well)
Heh...they always seem to forget that violence and profanity existed way before most people could read. Are we forgetting the crusades, the inqusition and a host of other wars?
Granted, the speed limit thing was a poor analogy.
However, you and the other poster that took issue with it failed to address my last point; are there any movies that if you remove all of the violent part, but keep the story and message of the movie intact? I never said it was censorship.
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2. Directors. If I was a director, I would be pretty upset with 3rd party disruption of my vision of a movie even if it doesn't fit one's approriate maturity level. The "If you can't handle it don't watch it" rule applies here, which I can totally empithize with. Refer to the Simpsons episode on censoring museums.
I agree here. Should we lower all speed limits to 25, become some people don't want to drive fast (or can't and still be safe)?
I also don't see the point. You watch an action flick, with all of the action removed, what are you left with?
They give examples of movies that would have violence left in b/c it would change movie too much, but what movie wouldn't be altered like that if the violence was removed?
Excessive steel until you're being shot at...
Some numbers had to be put down.
Excessive is in the eye of the beholder.
They could have made it $.01 and 1 day of jail per MP3/OGG, who is to say that's not excessive?
You're right, lets just make things simple; break any law, and you're executed. After all, who's to say what's excessive?
Perhaps some common sense will tell us. If someone downloads an entire album worth about $18, then it'd seem to follow that you are punished the same as if you had stole $18. So 1 year in jail plus $1000 fine is exessive.
I mean is a $1000 fine excessive for people who throw litter on the highways?
Ya, it is.
A number had to be picked, $1000 is what the people we voted for chose.
A number did have to be picked, but it shouldn't be arbitrary or exessive.
Oh, sorry. Just over a year. Not much different. My point stands, they are marking something only a few months old dead at the end of this year. I can under stand them dropping 6.2 this year, but not 8.0.
Hmm...well on the 2nd cd, i don't see much jumping around. There's some of the back and forth about his ex, a song about his mom, a couple of songs on gov't / recent events, a few about his kid(s) and the rest are about sex or how he think he made it. Don't hear much contradiction in there..
Might be splitting hairs, but its important.
In democracy, its mob rules.
A republic is mob rules, but with protections for the minority as well...so that its not really mob rule.
At least, thats how its supposed to work i believe.
It may be theft, but doesn't a year in prison and a $1000 fine a bit excessive, for sharing 1 mp3?
I can under stand Redhats actions as well. I think most people get upset because the MS upgrades happen so frequenctly.
I'm actually a bit suprised; the EOL for 8.0 (the CURRENT release) is only until the end of THIS year? Didn't the damn thing just come out last Sept?? So its total life time is less then one year. WTF?
Could also be that over time someones views change. You've never been mad at an ex-girlfriend, then missed her, then been mad again, and then ultimatly not care? I doubt that he writes the lyrics for all of his songs at once, and maybe his feelings on things change *gasp*.
Eminem is a perfect example of what's wrong with the current music industry.
What exactly is wrong w/him? I think his music is good (well, the 2nd cd...not the first). Just because he's a new artist and you happen not to like his music doesn't mean he's 'whats wrong with the industry.'
While i agree with the rest of your post, i think that piece is way off base.
If you people had a cop in the family or for a friend, you'd know that they the vast majority of them aren't nightsticking thugs or hellbent on invading your privacy. Yes, if you dig deep enough you will always find dirt and there are always a few rotten apples in the basket.
I did have a cop as a friend of the family. He confirmed that most ARE 'rotten apples', as you put it. That, coupled with the stories people have for being pulled over without cause leads me to belive the old saying: 'Power corrupts.'
But breaking encryption on something that is out of copyright means you've also broken encryption to something still under copyright.
Depends on what you buy. The video card i just got will keep me set for the next few years. Its also far better then then what comes in a ps2 or xbox...the graphics are already hampered by the fact that they are on a tv and not a monitor.
I'd rather update drivers then spend 75 for the 3 controllers they don't give you, 50 for the privledge of playing online, with 9.99 / month to keep a subscription (on top of the 50 i already pay for broadband), another $30 to watch dvds, another 25 for the hd connection, and 25 for a memory card.
then it would cost more than it's worth..
Then we make it more expensive to just throw it out.
Your home isn't at risk, because you don't have a master lock..
Now only on XBox, with Mac and PC ports still nowhere in evidence.
Um.. Look here.
Note that MS isn't to blame for this most likely; i had to wait quite a while for GTA3 on pc. I think its the fault of all these dopes that buy a console thats outdated a few minutes after you get home.
Lets not forget the Pontiac Aztec.
Did i just sell that to you? :-)
Its fairly easy to search the web to find recalls for all cars. A friend of mine at work knows a site that has info for every car.
Its just one of those things that you do to maintian your car safely.
Yes, but they don't have a system that can very easily read all this stuff (except the ezpass tag). As far as the ezpass tag goes, i could always leaveit home if i watned to, or do what a friend of mine did, and leave it wrapped in foil under the seat.
Your dealer typically mails you these things.
My dealer has a website that i can log into and recalls will also posted there.
Ya...i've heard of that. I thikn at first when they split 215 into 215 and 610 (the first time they added an area code) they said it wouldn't be long distance to call across the street if that was a different area code.
From what i heard though, this isn't the case. Different 215 to 610 is charged as intralata...regional long distance, as opposed to state to state long distance. Screwy, i know.