1) It was Locke's insistence that his was was the best way to save Zion that put all their ships (and EMPs) out on the line in the first place. He wanted to stop the machines before they got to the dock, and insisted they'd need all their EMPs to do it. They never would've even had the Neb's at the end if the council hadn't overruled him and sent the 2 ships out to look for Neo and Morpheus.
2) Not really sure about that one...how about "because all the humans dying would've been one hell of a down ending"?;)
I don't know that I'd quite call them masterpieces, but I have to agree with haggar's other points. I did really enjoy Revolutions and Reloaded, and I think they're getting an unfair reputation as "the worst movies of 2003."
There IS philosophy and layered meaning to them, and so what if it doesn't cover these topics as deeply as a college textbook? It's not a textbook! It's entertainment!
Like so many other (over-?)hyped movies lately, you get what you want to get from them. If you go in with lots of preconceptions thinking it's going to revolutionize storytelling and cinema, you'll probably be disappointed. If you just go hoping to be entertained, you'll probably enjoy it - and maybe even find a little more meaning beyond the CG effects and Keannu.
As much as I like the idea of free music myself, there's a big difference between P2P and radio. Radio is funded by advertisements. P2P isn't funded. The point shouldn't have been that "You can't listen to my song until you pay me," but that "If you don't pay me, the only way you can listen to my song is by coming to see a concert or being lucky enough to catch it on the radio, not whenever you happen to feel like firing up an mp3."
Unless this rich person you know dropped roughly $16.5 billion in lottery tickets, they wouldn't have bought a ticket for every possible combination ($1 per ticket, at least 53 numbers to choose from, and assuming once a number is drawn it can't be drawn again)
And you're exactly what's wrong with the newbies coming into the community, thinking of it as obscure and miniscule, which only goes to show you couldn't be bothered getting your facts straight and realising how things work BEFORE coming in and mouthing off at us.
It's this kind of elitist attitude that causes the kind of posts you're replying to. If the open source community really wants adoption on the desktop (and don't mistake me for implying that you or I speak for the community) it's going to have to get over this attitude problem. And it is a problem. As much as I might frown upon their business practices and think their products have WAY too much room to improve, you don't usually call up Microsoft and hear "You didn't bother to read the help or check the newsgroups? Fuckin' newb! [click]"
Just because you're an expert at something doesn't mean everyone else is. Especially when it comes to using something as potentially complex as an operating system, you should always expect the newbies to not know the answers, or even necessarily to know the "proper" way to get them. And if that bothers you so much, maybe you should take a break from your machine and go get some sun or read a book for a while.
Weak in what way? He's an elf, he's supposed to be able to do crazy things like that. He walks on top of the snow in Fellowship while the rest are slogging through hip-deep. While I don't remember it in the book, swinging onto a horse at full gallop is a good visual representation of just how skilled and agile the elves really are. Same with the shield surfing - a human tries to slide down stairs on a shield while firing off arrows, nobody would believe it. But an elf? You're supposed to suspend disbelief and take that as an example of the abilities of that race.
I'd have the same reaction to this whether it was directed at Apple, Microsoft, the White House, my mother, your mother, you name it - I'd think these guys were a couple of immature kids with too much time on their hands.
Sure, it's no fun getting to go through the run-around trying to get tech support. I've had to do it with Apple, I've had to do it with Delta, I've had to do it with Wendy's, you name it. Eventually if you keep doing business with a company long enough you're going to have a problem. That's sadly just the way things are.
When that happens, you can act like an adult, be persistent, and keep going up the chain until you either get the results you want or get denied by someone with authority, find another company (or an independent repair shop) who can give you the service you require, or you can act like a spoiled baby and make a movie documenting your graffiti campaign against the big mean company that slighted you.
First off, why is it that anyone who posts with a differing opinion claims that the topic is "not worthy of discussion"?
Second, in your rant about marketing claims you failed to include in your quote the part about the warranty - a quick check on Apple's site reveals refurbs are covered by a one-year limited warranty (although I didn't look up the specifics). So it's not as though they're picking up replacement iPods out of a box, wiping off the tire marks from where they were run over a few times, and shipping them off.
Sure, they're out to make a buck like anyone else and "consumer beware," but I'd think iPod owners with dead batteries would be happy to have another option than having to buy a new one or trying to crack the thing open and replace the battery themselves. For those owners with never-dropped clean-room-fresh iPods in fear of a replacement, there's always ranting on the web.
The system is designed so that everyone (theoretically) has the same protections against getting railroaded. In reality, it can happen if you have bad counsel, corrupt police, etc., but I have a feeling those aren't as common as TV would make them appear to be. Any system can be taken advantage of by those on the inside. It's like the saying about government goes - ours is the worst system of justice, except for all the others.
It's like the old saying goes: Buy a family a dinner, they eat for a night. Buy a family a water buffalo, they all get trampled and have to be airlifted to the nearest trauma center.
But that's a management problem, not an IT problem.
Pretty much hits the nail on the head there.
From what I've seen, management thought IT would be some kind of miracle cost-cutter, saving money in unimaginable ways. But it turns out, even though it does help, the real problem isn't that IT isn't worth it, it's bad management decisions. Management has such a short-sighted "how much do we have in our pockets right now" attitude that no amount of "miracle IT solutions" will help.
Having never taken a business or management class, I don't know what they're teaching in them, but maybe they should consider a long-term outlook is important in making successful management decisions.
You do make some good points and yes, for the record, if I were to actually eat a McDonald's apple pie I would prefer a slightly burnt tongue to having to clear my plans for the afternoon.:) As I said, my main "beef" (ha!) is with lack of personal responsibility, and I do hate having to argue from the side of the huge company. I'm not saying that they're right, just that I think our society is much too litigious in general.
I'd be willing to bet that they were, in fact, specifically taking into account the specifics of their customer base. You don't think they say around at board meetings saying "You know, we'd sure be a lot happier if we could serve coffee that would scald or burn lots of our customers." I'd be very surprised if they hadn't done all kinds of market research into how hot the average customer liked their food/beverages, how soon after leaving the window they started eating, etc., and were aiming for the middle of the bell curve.
It's hard to stand up and defend a corporation when they do something so slimy as to apparently ignore the suffering of a poor little old lady, but IMO individual responsibility is not something that people seem to want anything to do with these days, when it really should be. If she had taken half a second to think "Coffee is usually served hot. This is coffee. I'm opening it in my lap in the car. This might not be a good idea." maybe we wouldn't have to have this particular discussion.
First off, it's a parent's responsibility not to hand a scalding-hot gooey dessert to their child. Period. That may not be the case in our legal system, but I don't see why McDonald's should be held accountable. Sure it would be nice if they didn't serve incredibly (and I'll even grant you, sometimes dangerously) hot food, but at what point should we, the consumers, have to take responsibility for not hurting ourselves?
Pies are too hot, because when I am too lazy to make sure my child's food isn't going to burn them, they have a chance of getting burned.
McDonald's fries should be soggy, not crispy, because someone could jab themselves in the eye with one.
McNuggets should be much smaller, because if someone swallowed one without chewing they could choke.
Anyway, my point is this: McDonald's might be full of corporate weasel attorneys who will all be the first against the wall when the revolution comes, and maybe they should've offered to float her the medical bills, out of the goodness of their monolithic corporation's cold black heart, but it really was her fault for spilling it on herself.
Except you didn't sign a contract with the music industry, whereas the software developer presumably had a contract with Apple that specifically covered this.
Believe me, I hate the litigious music industry swine as much as the next guy, but let's not go trotting it out in every discussion to try and make a point.
Unless he got the idea from things he heard or saw at work. Some of the rampant rumor/speculation I've read seems to say Apple might have been considering implementing something like this into the next version of Sherlock. Granted, it's only rumor though. I have no idea how true it is...time will tell.
My point was that while there might be great value in it to the ones doing the downloading, there's not great value in the way that I've always understood the courts would view the situation (assuming the downloaders aren't also selling copies and making a profit). And, as has been brought up in many a Slashdot thread, there are already laws on the books that handle this sort of offense.
Does anyone really think that sentencing people to jail time for copyright infringement is a good idea? I don't see how that would be a case of the punishment fitting the crime.
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1) It was Locke's insistence that his was was the best way to save Zion that put all their ships (and EMPs) out on the line in the first place. He wanted to stop the machines before they got to the dock, and insisted they'd need all their EMPs to do it. They never would've even had the Neb's at the end if the council hadn't overruled him and sent the 2 ships out to look for Neo and Morpheus.
;)
2) Not really sure about that one...how about "because all the humans dying would've been one hell of a down ending"?
I don't know that I'd quite call them masterpieces, but I have to agree with haggar's other points. I did really enjoy Revolutions and Reloaded, and I think they're getting an unfair reputation as "the worst movies of 2003."
There IS philosophy and layered meaning to them, and so what if it doesn't cover these topics as deeply as a college textbook? It's not a textbook! It's entertainment!
Like so many other (over-?)hyped movies lately, you get what you want to get from them. If you go in with lots of preconceptions thinking it's going to revolutionize storytelling and cinema, you'll probably be disappointed. If you just go hoping to be entertained, you'll probably enjoy it - and maybe even find a little more meaning beyond the CG effects and Keannu.
Ghandi-O's? I prever Honey Bunches of Vishnu
Naked Lunch....there are at least two things wrong with that title.
Technically, it's the consumer's loss if all the consumer does is complain about the provider instead of finding a way to purchase the product.
As much as I like the idea of free music myself, there's a big difference between P2P and radio. Radio is funded by advertisements. P2P isn't funded. The point shouldn't have been that "You can't listen to my song until you pay me," but that "If you don't pay me, the only way you can listen to my song is by coming to see a concert or being lucky enough to catch it on the radio, not whenever you happen to feel like firing up an mp3."
Unless this rich person you know dropped roughly $16.5 billion in lottery tickets, they wouldn't have bought a ticket for every possible combination ($1 per ticket, at least 53 numbers to choose from, and assuming once a number is drawn it can't be drawn again)
And you're exactly what's wrong with the newbies coming into the community, thinking of it as obscure and miniscule, which only goes to show you couldn't be bothered getting your facts straight and realising how things work BEFORE coming in and mouthing off at us.
It's this kind of elitist attitude that causes the kind of posts you're replying to. If the open source community really wants adoption on the desktop (and don't mistake me for implying that you or I speak for the community) it's going to have to get over this attitude problem. And it is a problem. As much as I might frown upon their business practices and think their products have WAY too much room to improve, you don't usually call up Microsoft and hear "You didn't bother to read the help or check the newsgroups? Fuckin' newb! [click]"
Just because you're an expert at something doesn't mean everyone else is. Especially when it comes to using something as potentially complex as an operating system, you should always expect the newbies to not know the answers, or even necessarily to know the "proper" way to get them. And if that bothers you so much, maybe you should take a break from your machine and go get some sun or read a book for a while.
That guy must be still a student.
Or an exec...
Weak in what way? He's an elf, he's supposed to be able to do crazy things like that. He walks on top of the snow in Fellowship while the rest are slogging through hip-deep. While I don't remember it in the book, swinging onto a horse at full gallop is a good visual representation of just how skilled and agile the elves really are. Same with the shield surfing - a human tries to slide down stairs on a shield while firing off arrows, nobody would believe it. But an elf? You're supposed to suspend disbelief and take that as an example of the abilities of that race.
I'd have the same reaction to this whether it was directed at Apple, Microsoft, the White House, my mother, your mother, you name it - I'd think these guys were a couple of immature kids with too much time on their hands.
Sure, it's no fun getting to go through the run-around trying to get tech support. I've had to do it with Apple, I've had to do it with Delta, I've had to do it with Wendy's, you name it. Eventually if you keep doing business with a company long enough you're going to have a problem. That's sadly just the way things are.
When that happens, you can act like an adult, be persistent, and keep going up the chain until you either get the results you want or get denied by someone with authority, find another company (or an independent repair shop) who can give you the service you require, or you can act like a spoiled baby and make a movie documenting your graffiti campaign against the big mean company that slighted you.
First off, why is it that anyone who posts with a differing opinion claims that the topic is "not worthy of discussion"?
Second, in your rant about marketing claims you failed to include in your quote the part about the warranty - a quick check on Apple's site reveals refurbs are covered by a one-year limited warranty (although I didn't look up the specifics). So it's not as though they're picking up replacement iPods out of a box, wiping off the tire marks from where they were run over a few times, and shipping them off.
Sure, they're out to make a buck like anyone else and "consumer beware," but I'd think iPod owners with dead batteries would be happy to have another option than having to buy a new one or trying to crack the thing open and replace the battery themselves. For those owners with never-dropped clean-room-fresh iPods in fear of a replacement, there's always ranting on the web.
The system is designed so that everyone (theoretically) has the same protections against getting railroaded. In reality, it can happen if you have bad counsel, corrupt police, etc., but I have a feeling those aren't as common as TV would make them appear to be. Any system can be taken advantage of by those on the inside. It's like the saying about government goes - ours is the worst system of justice, except for all the others.
It's like the old saying goes: Buy a family a dinner, they eat for a night. Buy a family a water buffalo, they all get trampled and have to be airlifted to the nearest trauma center.
I want a lunar lander for Christmas. With blackjack...and hookers. In fact, forget the lunar lander and blackjack.
But that's a management problem, not an IT problem.
Pretty much hits the nail on the head there.
From what I've seen, management thought IT would be some kind of miracle cost-cutter, saving money in unimaginable ways. But it turns out, even though it does help, the real problem isn't that IT isn't worth it, it's bad management decisions. Management has such a short-sighted "how much do we have in our pockets right now" attitude that no amount of "miracle IT solutions" will help.
Having never taken a business or management class, I don't know what they're teaching in them, but maybe they should consider a long-term outlook is important in making successful management decisions.
You do make some good points and yes, for the record, if I were to actually eat a McDonald's apple pie I would prefer a slightly burnt tongue to having to clear my plans for the afternoon. :) As I said, my main "beef" (ha!) is with lack of personal responsibility, and I do hate having to argue from the side of the huge company. I'm not saying that they're right, just that I think our society is much too litigious in general.
I'd be willing to bet that they were, in fact, specifically taking into account the specifics of their customer base. You don't think they say around at board meetings saying "You know, we'd sure be a lot happier if we could serve coffee that would scald or burn lots of our customers." I'd be very surprised if they hadn't done all kinds of market research into how hot the average customer liked their food/beverages, how soon after leaving the window they started eating, etc., and were aiming for the middle of the bell curve.
It's hard to stand up and defend a corporation when they do something so slimy as to apparently ignore the suffering of a poor little old lady, but IMO individual responsibility is not something that people seem to want anything to do with these days, when it really should be. If she had taken half a second to think "Coffee is usually served hot. This is coffee. I'm opening it in my lap in the car. This might not be a good idea." maybe we wouldn't have to have this particular discussion.
Don't forget lawsuits against copyright-infringing eunuchs as well.
First off, it's a parent's responsibility not to hand a scalding-hot gooey dessert to their child. Period. That may not be the case in our legal system, but I don't see why McDonald's should be held accountable. Sure it would be nice if they didn't serve incredibly (and I'll even grant you, sometimes dangerously) hot food, but at what point should we, the consumers, have to take responsibility for not hurting ourselves?
Pies are too hot, because when I am too lazy to make sure my child's food isn't going to burn them, they have a chance of getting burned.
McDonald's fries should be soggy, not crispy, because someone could jab themselves in the eye with one.
McNuggets should be much smaller, because if someone swallowed one without chewing they could choke.
Anyway, my point is this: McDonald's might be full of corporate weasel attorneys who will all be the first against the wall when the revolution comes, and maybe they should've offered to float her the medical bills, out of the goodness of their monolithic corporation's cold black heart, but it really was her fault for spilling it on herself.
I call dibs on the email tax revenue!
Except you didn't sign a contract with the music industry, whereas the software developer presumably had a contract with Apple that specifically covered this.
Believe me, I hate the litigious music industry swine as much as the next guy, but let's not go trotting it out in every discussion to try and make a point.
What he does in his spare time is his, period.
Unless he got the idea from things he heard or saw at work. Some of the rampant rumor/speculation I've read seems to say Apple might have been considering implementing something like this into the next version of Sherlock. Granted, it's only rumor though. I have no idea how true it is...time will tell.
I believe it's "What were them computers like?"
My point was that while there might be great value in it to the ones doing the downloading, there's not great value in the way that I've always understood the courts would view the situation (assuming the downloaders aren't also selling copies and making a profit). And, as has been brought up in many a Slashdot thread, there are already laws on the books that handle this sort of offense.
Does anyone really think that sentencing people to jail time for copyright infringement is a good idea? I don't see how that would be a case of the punishment fitting the crime.