I just did a search for 'heavens to murgatroid', because I couldn't remember which of my old cartoon favorites used that line. And guess what I find
This, WTF ?!?!?!?
1. Power Cycle your cable modem
2. Restart your computer
3. if that doesn't work call your ISP's tech support
4. Listen to the pre recorded message saying there are no known network problems.
5. Wait
6. wait
7. by the time you reach tech support, do the 'Broadband Dance', your internet connection should be back up
Broadband Dance - first tier tech support telling you to power cycle your modem, clear your internet cache, restart your machine, asking you how much RAM you have, blah blah blah.
Not only was it crazy but it was a lie
Just points out that The author didn't investigate further. Many people tend to search for information, if they immediately find somehting that bolsters their position, they say 'see told ya so!', and forget to investigate further.
However, It also points out the misleading nature of the MSN website, which may very well just be flaw in the MSN setup (or poor design). I tried 'Highlander', the first number of 'search results' was pretty small. However, upon reaching the end of the 'first' list (about 55 links), there was another that said about 359,000. I'm sure there is not a conspiracy against Immortals or people living in the various Hihlands around the world.
I agree that we wan't to be able to validate the system until trust is earned. Nevertheless, even the paper trail is a BLACK BOX unto itself? Maybe you can look at a list and see (validate)your own vote, but what about a vote from Frank N. Stein - do you know that vote is real?
Maybe an auditing service can match actual votes to registered voters. But that in and of itself would not tell you actually who voted and who didn't. Someone's name could appear as having voted, even though they haven't seen a poll in 20 years (how would we know, how would they know?) Then, you would have to rectify all of the audits in various, counties, districts, states, etc. (for antional elections). And DO THIS BY HAND if you want to eliminate any computer glitches.
Do you trust thousands (?) of ballot counters to not make any mistakes? Are the ballots they are counting genuine? Does Mr. Chad rear his ugly head again? How can the average person verify this? even with a paper trail
To mangle a Matrix quote - 'The Problem is Trust'
There are genuine trust issues with either, system, all I am saying is that BOTH have their BLACK BOX aspects
Keep in mind, I am not for or against either system - whichever works out best is fine for me
As soon as you have any kind of black box whose functionning cannot either be seen, or plainly understood by people, there is room for doubt.
Yes and No. A high level of understanding by a great number of people could help, but don't forget that many (if not all of us) trust many things to 'black boxes' everyday.
How does an ATM add and subtract money from my checking account?
The answer may seem easy, but do I really know the answer?
Do I know the programming involved in the electronic data transfer? The Software? The Hardware? How electrons are transferred via copper wire?
another example would be a calculator
Most people don't know much about most of this, but if the proper result can be proven with a reasonable degree of success, then people will trust the black box
If you do not learn to trust, you will lose
Raiden
That being said, I still don't trust in much of anything anymore
Everyone who pays taxes in the US is a "donor" to the executive branch. Perhaps you mean the Bush campaign? In that case, you may be suprised that most companies actually donate pretty equally to both sides just to cover the bases. What were these companies' total donations to political campaigns compared to just to just Bush's? Without that info, this is a meaninglessly paranoid "article".
Not to mention various soft money contributions, donations to PAC's (political action committees), and party contributions. Also realize that there are dollar limits to a given election. Just because someone does/doesn't give money to the democratic/republican candidate this year doesn't mean they haven't/wont done/do it in the past/future.
Great, just what I want - not only do I get the two songs out of 12 on the album that sound decent. Making the Album 83% CRAP. Now I get BONUS CRAP for the same or even a higher price. w00t!!!!
Knowledge in the form of an informational commodity indispensable to productive power is already, and will continue to be, a major-perhaps the major-stake in the worldwide competition for power. It is conceivable that the nation-states will one day fight for control of information, just as they battled in the past for control over territory, and afterwards for control over access to and exploitation of raw materials and cheap labor.
Gameboys are OK for what they do, but with a PDA and wireless I used to eat (and drink) free every wednesday and thursday when the Local Bars had trivia contests. I could even come in after half of the questions had been asked and still smoke everybody else. Everyone was shocked and amazed at my genius - lol.
Ahh the joys of Ricochet(paid for itself) & a PDA
However, no virus or firewall in the world is gonna stop a cluleless user from clicking on an attachment and screwing their system. Virus scanners are mostly reactionary -- if it isn't in their list of malware, they can't find it. If it is a new way to screw users, and they click it..
I am by no means an Ub3r T3ch13, but I am probably more secure than most. I run a small LAN at my office with 4 computers (3 windows 2k and one XP), one of my boxes has a dual boot with Linux, but I don't have a great deal of time to learn that OS as well.
Anyway, I check for M$ updates almost daily, plus have all my boxes running A Coporate Antivirus, that is updated weekly automatically and which I generally update daily manually, users cannot disable the antivrus. I run a shared Internet connection through a Router/Firewall, and have software firewalls on all machines. Was I safe?
Nope! I admit this was a dumb move, but I couldn't resist, as I thought I was resonably secure. Got an email with an attachment in the form *.scr. I know don't open, but the little voice in my head said open it and if malicious let the virus scanner tell me what it is. Ran the script and nothing happened. Mind you, the AV was updated the day before. Upon updating that day, Discovered that stupid email spam worm (forgot the name)
Even though I have several lines of defense, the enemy slipped through
So I know Joe Schmoe most likely has several infections
For Bill Gates to expect a major target audience to protect itself (i.e. Home Users, small business etc.) is laughable. Most people treat there windoz boxes like the Ronco Showtime (if you remember those commercials) - Set it and FORGET it
Yes users should share responsibility, however, the default settings of the OS out the box should be reasonably secure
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I just did a search for 'heavens to murgatroid', because I couldn't remember which of my old cartoon favorites used that line. And guess what I find This, WTF ?!?!?!?
9. Covad Claims it's a DSL modem problem
10. ISP sends you a new modem
11. x=x+1
12. if x = 1 goto step 4, else goto 13.
13. ISP tells COVAD it's the DSLAM
14. Covad calls Verizon
15. wait 16. wait 17. wait
18. verizon and ISP can't decide where the phone line is installed
19. Verizon attempts to troubleshoot the copper.
20. wait 21. wait.
22. Verizon gives up and just switches you to a new line.
23. ISP says the line is still down
24. You use the internet for a day or so
25. ISP says the line is down
26. Tier I says "hmm that's funny, I can't ping your connection
27. You say "I'm running my DSL router in bridge mode, and have disabled the ping on the WAN side of my NAT/Firewall Router
28. Tech says cool, you say cool, the world is at rest
1. Power Cycle your cable modem 2. Restart your computer 3. if that doesn't work call your ISP's tech support 4. Listen to the pre recorded message saying there are no known network problems. 5. Wait 6. wait 7. by the time you reach tech support, do the 'Broadband Dance', your internet connection should be back up Broadband Dance - first tier tech support telling you to power cycle your modem, clear your internet cache, restart your machine, asking you how much RAM you have, blah blah blah.
I had a "Shrimp Farm" almost three decades ago. But it had a much cooler name, This was truly a great gift.
spent an estimated $50,000,000.00 and look what happened to it. $1 million is a drop in the ocean.
Ahhhh.. the power of Cheese!
So?
All Your Base Are Belong To Us
Sorry Moderators, I couldn't resist
Ethical issues may be one thing, but remember - unethical does not mean illegal
then what does it say about the quality of THIS search
However, It also points out the misleading nature of the MSN website, which may very well just be flaw in the MSN setup (or poor design). I tried 'Highlander', the first number of 'search results' was pretty small. However, upon reaching the end of the 'first' list (about 55 links), there was another that said about 359,000. I'm sure there is not a conspiracy against Immortals or people living in the various Hihlands around the world.
Maybe the ATM wasn't that good of an example
I agree that we wan't to be able to validate the system until trust is earned. Nevertheless, even the paper trail is a BLACK BOX unto itself? Maybe you can look at a list and see (validate)your own vote, but what about a vote from Frank N. Stein - do you know that vote is real?
Maybe an auditing service can match actual votes to registered voters. But that in and of itself would not tell you actually who voted and who didn't. Someone's name could appear as having voted, even though they haven't seen a poll in 20 years (how would we know, how would they know?) Then, you would have to rectify all of the audits in various, counties, districts, states, etc. (for antional elections). And DO THIS BY HAND if you want to eliminate any computer glitches.
Do you trust thousands (?) of ballot counters to not make any mistakes? Are the ballots they are counting genuine? Does Mr. Chad rear his ugly head again? How can the average person verify this? even with a paper trail
To mangle a Matrix quote - 'The Problem is Trust'
There are genuine trust issues with either, system, all I am saying is that BOTH have their BLACK BOX aspects
Keep in mind, I am not for or against either system - whichever works out best is fine for me
Yes and No. A high level of understanding by a great number of people could help, but don't forget that many (if not all of us) trust many things to 'black boxes' everyday.
How does an ATM add and subtract money from my checking account?
The answer may seem easy, but do I really know the answer?
Do I know the programming involved in the electronic data transfer? The Software? The Hardware? How electrons are transferred via copper wire?
another example would be a calculator
Most people don't know much about most of this, but if the proper result can be proven with a reasonable degree of success, then people will trust the black box
If you do not learn to trust, you will lose
RaidenThat being said, I still don't trust in much of anything anymore
Start
Programs
Accessories
Entertainment
Sound Recorder
So that's why I could never get an MP3 or a movie to play---Joe Sixpack
Not to mention various soft money contributions, donations to PAC's (political action committees), and party contributions. Also realize that there are dollar limits to a given election. Just because someone does/doesn't give money to the democratic/republican candidate this year doesn't mean they haven't/wont done/do it in the past/future.
Great, just what I want - not only do I get the two songs out of 12 on the album that sound decent. Making the Album 83% CRAP. Now I get BONUS CRAP for the same or even a higher price. w00t!!!!
Your comment is right on the moneyFinding more than one half! Not of the same worm of course.
Slashdot might be banned, afer all it claims to contain "Stuff that matters" I await my -5 Mod punishment.
Information
Knowledge in the form of an informational commodity indispensable to productive power is already, and will continue to be, a major-perhaps the major-stake in the worldwide competition for power. It is conceivable that the nation-states will one day fight for control of information, just as they battled in the past for control over territory, and afterwards for control over access to and exploitation of raw materials and cheap labor.Jean Francois Lyotard
didn't microsoft release Back Orifice
Then please let me be Microsoft
She can even form a knife to cut pizza with.
Gameboys are OK for what they do, but with a PDA and wireless I used to eat (and drink) free every wednesday and thursday when the Local Bars had trivia contests. I could even come in after half of the questions had been asked and still smoke everybody else. Everyone was shocked and amazed at my genius - lol. Ahh the joys of Ricochet(paid for itself) & a PDA
BlueJacker Gets Jacked, News @ 11
everybody knows This is the internet
However, no virus or firewall in the world is gonna stop a cluleless user from clicking on an attachment and screwing their system. Virus scanners are mostly reactionary -- if it isn't in their list of malware, they can't find it. If it is a new way to screw users, and they click it..
I am by no means an Ub3r T3ch13, but I am probably more secure than most. I run a small LAN at my office with 4 computers (3 windows 2k and one XP), one of my boxes has a dual boot with Linux, but I don't have a great deal of time to learn that OS as well.
Anyway, I check for M$ updates almost daily, plus have all my boxes running A Coporate Antivirus, that is updated weekly automatically and which I generally update daily manually, users cannot disable the antivrus. I run a shared Internet connection through a Router/Firewall, and have software firewalls on all machines. Was I safe?
Nope! I admit this was a dumb move, but I couldn't resist, as I thought I was resonably secure. Got an email with an attachment in the form *.scr. I know don't open, but the little voice in my head said open it and if malicious let the virus scanner tell me what it is. Ran the script and nothing happened. Mind you, the AV was updated the day before. Upon updating that day, Discovered that stupid email spam worm (forgot the name)
Even though I have several lines of defense, the enemy slipped through
So I know Joe Schmoe most likely has several infections
For Bill Gates to expect a major target audience to protect itself (i.e. Home Users, small business etc.) is laughable. Most people treat there windoz boxes like the Ronco Showtime (if you remember those commercials) - Set it and FORGET it
Yes users should share responsibility, however, the default settings of the OS out the box should be reasonably secure