Uhm, no. There's this "Satan"/etc. safety valve that stops people from blaming gods too much. And even if gods are held responsible, it's always: "I wasn't good enough, I wasn't praying enough, gods are testing me, it is beyond our understanding" - they always have some excuse
And please, religious folks understanding medical statistics? Where on Earth have you seen that?
Consider: if they would understand statistics, there would be no miracles. But you hear about one from time to time, when the patient simply managed to be in the very small group that survives serious condition. But...why it's not a miracle when somebody dies from flu? Why? The mechanism is the same.
In a generation the absurd notion that animal testing is bad will die out.
Don't count on it. It doesn't matter if it happens after reproductive period. And such people are among those who usually reproduce, well, like rabbits.
The factors you mention don't play much role in, say, the whole last day of farm animal life. (as a matter of fact, don't traumatic experiences release, among other things, substances that make blood "redder"? Possibly meat looking better?)
As a side note, your place is quite exceptional on the grand scale if it treats farm animals good (even if for better profit). At the least I know how chicken farms look at my place. Plants are treated better.
In far too many cases it's not really about animals. Which is...perfectly natural. Practically all the things we do is either to accommodate internal urges or in relation to other people
Large parts of society can get easily suspicious about what those damned scientists are doing to lab animals. Especially if they are the cute ones. But if some group will actively fight farming in the same way, they will be much quicker to be branded as nutjobs by the same society, who won't like the much more direct connection between "bad things happening to animals" and them.
Humans are easier to blame than gods if something goes wrong. When everything is over (and ended good), humans can be ignored while gods "require" constant attention.
And most importantly, people actively search for confirmations of the influence coming from their chosen / ingrained in childhood deity. And only the kind of influence they would like, the "good" one.
But even in desktops, there are possibly more ARM cores than x86 ones. Something in the monitor. Something in optical drive. HDD controller perhaps. Or WiFi controller.
It is more a matter of intellectual integrity. Especially when it is used in a manner of "no, you can't criticize this, because you can't comprehend enough about it!
One can defend any silliness like that. The matter at hand is, indeed, placed outside the area of knowledge, recourse, debate. Which, as I wrote, makes those using such defense a hypocrites...a bit.
Not sure if I'll decide to continue this topic, but you might at least try to notice to who you are responding to before calling them names...it certainly doesn't encourage me to answer much. Heck, even falls in line with one kind of criticism of religions.
When the Space Race was basically ending, it was clear there won't be so many resources anymore for space travel. And what NASA did for the next 3 decades? Flew a spacecraft wasting almost 100 tonnes of cargo in each launch. A spacecraft that was not only a result of compromise, but properties of which weren't really utilized. Those 100 tonnes wasted in each launch meant no circular space station. No mission further on.
Heck, even Russians got sucked in and wanted to have a spacecraft with comparable capabilities for defensive balance. They actually did slightly better, getting out of it a super-heavy launcher capable of operating independently (what NASA only now does with Ares V), but the whole project bled them financially, possibly even greatly contributing to the death of Soviet Union, and the launcher died with it. If not for their shuttles...who knows, they could have been on Mars by now.
That's not really applicable to Project Natal usage, don't you think? Using MS Robotics Studio to control something is a different thing than using fabulous (for the price) sensors of Natal by putting it on a robot of some sort. And wondering now how easy/hard it will be to access those sensors, what will be required.
You are being a bit hypocritical. Not knowing all the nuances of particular mythology can't be strictly "uninformed state", can't be "without being educated in the matter", because you certainly are one of the first to admit that essential matters are relegated to faith.
Faith which, BTW, causes you to dismiss vast majority of deities that were claimed to exist throughout all of the recorded history. You need to have a heck of a good reason to choose your one deity before you can start any critique of anti-theism (which you also are guilty of, to almost the same degree; excluding only one deity. Why the exception?)
It's not exactly "pretty much just a few cameras and other sensors". Yes, there is RGB cam and microphone array, which will be often useful in their own way.
SDK for Windows might be the best we can hope for indeed, if wanting something usable. Not exactly optimal, you're basically forced to use some Windows netbook (instead of some ARM board) if your creation is supposed to be roving. Still great.
You mean the function of mountain huts/shelters/hostels? (heck, those at my place are even obliged by their own regulations to provide a free sleeping place for the night, in however spartan conditions, and hot water...)
The aspect of how Natal communicates with X360 is most interesting to me, and surely many others.
It seems like it could be mighty fun peripheral for robotics projects... (and who knows, perhaps MS could even promote it, seeing that they have their robotics suite? Certainly small number of Natals not used for gaming wouldn't harm MS financially in any significant way; but they might like good publicity)
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And Europe is UK...since when?
Or people wanting to routinely connect Nintendo DS? ;/
Uhm, no. There's this "Satan"/etc. safety valve that stops people from blaming gods too much. And even if gods are held responsible, it's always: "I wasn't good enough, I wasn't praying enough, gods are testing me, it is beyond our understanding" - they always have some excuse
And please, religious folks understanding medical statistics? Where on Earth have you seen that?
Consider: if they would understand statistics, there would be no miracles. But you hear about one from time to time, when the patient simply managed to be in the very small group that survives serious condition. But...why it's not a miracle when somebody dies from flu? Why? The mechanism is the same.
You simply try very hard to go to another doctor in such case, if circumstances permit it.
In a generation the absurd notion that animal testing is bad will die out.
Don't count on it. It doesn't matter if it happens after reproductive period. And such people are among those who usually reproduce, well, like rabbits.
The factors you mention don't play much role in, say, the whole last day of farm animal life. (as a matter of fact, don't traumatic experiences release, among other things, substances that make blood "redder"? Possibly meat looking better?)
As a side note, your place is quite exceptional on the grand scale if it treats farm animals good (even if for better profit). At the least I know how chicken farms look at my place. Plants are treated better.
In far too many cases it's not really about animals. Which is...perfectly natural. Practically all the things we do is either to accommodate internal urges or in relation to other people
Large parts of society can get easily suspicious about what those damned scientists are doing to lab animals. Especially if they are the cute ones. But if some group will actively fight farming in the same way, they will be much quicker to be branded as nutjobs by the same society, who won't like the much more direct connection between "bad things happening to animals" and them.
Humans are easier to blame than gods if something goes wrong. When everything is over (and ended good), humans can be ignored while gods "require" constant attention.
And most importantly, people actively search for confirmations of the influence coming from their chosen / ingrained in childhood deity. And only the kind of influence they would like, the "good" one.
I think there's something else going on in France, too. They are after all mighty protectionist when it comes to their, uhmm, "culture".
I suspect that piracy helps big acts much more than the small, local ones. We seem to agree here it applies to software. Heck, even MS thinks so...
Well, laptop, actually ;p
But even in desktops, there are possibly more ARM cores than x86 ones. Something in the monitor. Something in optical drive. HDD controller perhaps. Or WiFi controller.
Nitpicking: carbon dioxide emissions. Or, if calling them "carbon", methane falls under them too...
Plus it's not unheard of to count Earth-Moon system as a double planet. Movements of which...
(This only comes into play when compared to very low power devices)
Which of course means "this only comes into play when looking at most widespread devices, shipping at least order of magnitude more units than x86"
It is more a matter of intellectual integrity. Especially when it is used in a manner of "no, you can't criticize this, because you can't comprehend enough about it!
One can defend any silliness like that. The matter at hand is, indeed, placed outside the area of knowledge, recourse, debate. Which, as I wrote, makes those using such defense a hypocrites...a bit.
Not sure if I'll decide to continue this topic, but you might at least try to notice to who you are responding to before calling them names...it certainly doesn't encourage me to answer much. Heck, even falls in line with one kind of criticism of religions.
When the Space Race was basically ending, it was clear there won't be so many resources anymore for space travel. And what NASA did for the next 3 decades? Flew a spacecraft wasting almost 100 tonnes of cargo in each launch. A spacecraft that was not only a result of compromise, but properties of which weren't really utilized. Those 100 tonnes wasted in each launch meant no circular space station. No mission further on.
Heck, even Russians got sucked in and wanted to have a spacecraft with comparable capabilities for defensive balance. They actually did slightly better, getting out of it a super-heavy launcher capable of operating independently (what NASA only now does with Ares V), but the whole project bled them financially, possibly even greatly contributing to the death of Soviet Union, and the launcher died with it. If not for their shuttles...who knows, they could have been on Mars by now.
BTW, one can't help but wonder why do they call it an "orbiter"...
That's not really applicable to Project Natal usage, don't you think? Using MS Robotics Studio to control something is a different thing than using fabulous (for the price) sensors of Natal by putting it on a robot of some sort. And wondering now how easy/hard it will be to access those sensors, what will be required.
You are being a bit hypocritical. Not knowing all the nuances of particular mythology can't be strictly "uninformed state", can't be "without being educated in the matter", because you certainly are one of the first to admit that essential matters are relegated to faith.
Faith which, BTW, causes you to dismiss vast majority of deities that were claimed to exist throughout all of the recorded history. You need to have a heck of a good reason to choose your one deity before you can start any critique of anti-theism (which you also are guilty of, to almost the same degree; excluding only one deity. Why the exception?)
Not only Catholics (which themselves represent majority of Christians). Also Orthodox and Lutheran churches.
Yes, they might differ in theological interpretation of what's going on behind the scenes; but all agree that the faithfull are deity eaters.
So you know it's active, built around this idea: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time-of-flight_camera
I suspect it will be fine.
It's not exactly "pretty much just a few cameras and other sensors". Yes, there is RGB cam and microphone array, which will be often useful in their own way.
But most importantly, there's this:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time-of-flight_camera
And cheaply. Which might be huge for amateur robotics projects.
SDK for Windows might be the best we can hope for indeed, if wanting something usable. Not exactly optimal, you're basically forced to use some Windows netbook (instead of some ARM board) if your creation is supposed to be roving. Still great.
You mean the function of mountain huts/shelters/hostels? (heck, those at my place are even obliged by their own regulations to provide a free sleeping place for the night, in however spartan conditions, and hot water...)
The aspect of how Natal communicates with X360 is most interesting to me, and surely many others.
It seems like it could be mighty fun peripheral for robotics projects... (and who knows, perhaps MS could even promote it, seeing that they have their robotics suite? Certainly small number of Natals not used for gaming wouldn't harm MS financially in any significant way; but they might like good publicity)
The same way 3D photos, available for many decades, made a lasting contribution?