Also, when was the last time you saw a laptop with "Microsoft" on the case? Microsoft *still* doesn't make their own laptops, they will *still* be selling laptops from Dell, HP, Lenovo, Asus, etc.
I think the strategy is not too dissimilar to donut chains selling "premium coffee". Instead of selling the usual low-grade commercial blends, they'll sell mediocre-grade coffee but tart up the cups and store displays and use an espresso machine to output crappy coffee.
In short Microsoft's strategy is to give people the impression they're in an Apple Store buying high-quality Apple Products.
Stupidity at its finest indeed.
I expect the real stupidity will be found at the Genius Bar -- "Did you try rebooting?"
the crusades happened how many centuries ago?... we have to learn from history, not be trapped by history. history should teach you, not lock you in mindless recrimination
And if we choose to learn from history, we'll discover that the thinking of the past does not magically disappear or fade away because the past is behind us, and that the sins of the past aren't so easily forgiven. Racism, sexual inequality, cultural and religous bigotry, and fundamentalism are all very much alive today. And any progress in those areas is in the memory of most baby boomers. If you're not part of that generation, try Googling for the date of the first time a Catholic was elected as President, the first time a Mormon wasn't, or the date of the last lynching.
the same idiotic logic that keeps the balkans buried in blood feuds going back for millenia
Maybe it's just me, but I find it almost comical that fear of the Turks (aka Muslims) that's traditional in the Balkans seems more real at an American airport than in Belgrade, and is probably discussed as much in Protestant Evangelical churches across America as in Kossovo. Either way, I'd suggest that logic has no relevance when discussing human nature.
If I'm wrong, be sure to tell the next angry black man you meet in the street in Mississipi (or Harvard) to get over it because slavery ended years ago. And while you're at, be sure to tell Jews everywhere to stop whining. And that guy down the street flying a flag year round? Tell him that the concept of "freedom fries" is absurd, and convince him that Americans really do have a lot in common with the French. I suspect you'll get a reaction not unlike the one I get when I tell my girlfriend she's better at cooking and housework than I am.
Seems to me you're presenting a land-use argument. That certainly appropriate in certain contexts, but it's a bit of a narrow perspective, doncha think?
Women aged 20-29 were nearly 29 pounds heavier on average in 2002 compared to 1960. Women aged 40-49 were about 25.5 pounds heavier on average in 2002 compared to 1960.
Curiously, by 2002, women no longer consider it necessary to wear the girdles that everyone wore in 1960.
So I propose this solution: Make the warning dialog... in big red letters... With a flashing alarm light and sound. Filling 3/4 of the screen.
Assuming you have the minimum requisite measure of competence in a given area, how would you react if every step off the usual path subjected you to condescending and alarmist reponse? Say, bartenders giving you drunk driving statistics along with descriptions of possible liver damage, car passengers quoting safe stopping distances, warnings on Q-Tip packages insisting Q-Tips should not be used in you ear canal... do I need to go on?
The Windows approach (as evident in UAC, warning dialogs, wizards, overly verbose messages, etc.) is geared toward the dumb user (and equally dumb admins as those same approaches are used in the "enterprise" offerings). By contrast *nix systems typically dispense with any handholding. If there's any "right approach" that merits advocating, I'd suggest it would be a compromise between the two I described, not forcing an exaggerated version of the dummy approach down everyone's throat.
Apple is known for quality, longevity, and higher price. There's nothing to gain from them trying to get any sizable portion of the low-end market. The only reason they sell the mac mini is to get PC converts, not because they want a foot in the low end market.
But the underlying irony to Microsoft's latest moves (the recent ads, hiring away the guy who oversaw Apple's stores, etc.) is that Microsoft belongs in the low-end market (in the same way that manufacturers who sell to Target and Walmart belong there), but want the image of a company that merits being placed in the high-end market.
Personally, I don't think that's going to work. Products designed by Martha Stewart, for example, may have added some quality and "class" to what's typically at a big-box retailer, but no one in their right mind considers a place like Target as anything but a crappy place to buy mostly crappy products at great prices. And people who are looking for something better don't buy Martha Stewart.
A more honest approach would be one of the following:
Microsoft - When Good Enough is Good Enough!(TM)
Microsoft - Products for Those Who Can't Tell the Difference!(TM)
Windows - Everyone's Using It!(TM)
Seen that seam under your ball sack? You really don't want to know why that's there.
Probably not, but as someone who is over the age of 40, I'd be interested in knowing the evolutionary origins of increased ear hair. Or eyebrow hair growing longer. And if there is an intelligent designer, why the hell did he (or she) decide that hair growing ON the nose would be a good thing?
I think science has a long way to go before we understand someone like Andy Rooney.
Call it "Windows Productivity Pack" or something, and ship it in the same box as the OS. People can then install the OS sans apps, then subsequently install only those apps they want.
The reason why no one's written a "Wielding Monopoly Power for Dummies" book is that it's generally assumed that even practical and fair-minded people such as yourself would intuitively grasp the benefits of ruthless business practices.
If you don't like the manufacturers' policies, buy from someone else.
And while we're at it, we'll be sure to change our cable/DSL providers because we don't agree with their policies.
If I may, I'd suggest you stop to consider the effects of monopoly power (both on the macro and micro level), and then examine how politics (both social and governmental) factor into the equation.
Complex problems can sometimes have simple solutions, but this isn't one of them.
It would have to be to compensate for the grief of using Windows.;-)
I do hope that one of those "few links" offers a "Comments" field, preferrably one that isn't limited to 128 characters, though I suppose something like "Hey Microsoft! I want my life back. And no, you can't have any more of my money!" would fit and provide the requisite emotional reward.
your standard steel or concrete house will burn as well as a wooden one, unless it's completely empty of any inflammable materials
Oddly enough (and assuming you meant to write "flammable" instead of "inflammable"), straw houses which are traditional post and beam construction with infill, are very fire resistant.
The older homes here 1930's have foundation problems more than anything else in the big ones. They tend to be lathe/plaster walls, but still stick-style construction.
That would include my favourite, older buildings using stick-style construction with brick exteriors.
I guess a few years Microsoft finally got the memo that they can't protect sales of Windows by attempting to force lock-in to their entire Windows ecosystem. They realized that many of their customers mix technologies together. Examples are Java/JBoss on Windows server, Windows desktops and Linux servers (Samba), working with Mozilla developers to port Firefox to Vista, and iPhones connecting to Exchange servers (licensing ActiveSync to Apple).
I think that may be a generous interpretation.
Microsoft isn't interested in interoperability. If they did, they simply stop "not interoperating".
What they are interested is licensing deals. The ex CFO of Microsoft (previously with IBM, IIRC) recently published a book in which he describes how he built up an entire department to do just this and how much money the effort has been bringin in. Your ActiveSync example is just one example of many.
You could make some kind of argument for JBoss and Firefox, but Microsoft's primary directive remains maintaining their monopoly. Anything they do that in that regard I don't see as a charitable attempt at interoperability, but rather a clever and strategic effort at leveraging it. Cracks in the "ecosystem" may be increasingly acceptable. Threats to their monopoly will never be.
It's no surprise that Microsoft wants a piece of the virtualisation market. If offering up a few thousand lines of code does that, then they've conceded little. I'd suggest even go farther and suggest that the "open for interpretation" nature of their gesture is excellent PR that can be used in future FUD campaigns.
As for Samba, I believe that the recent progress is the direct result of the EU's legal actions.
It has to be automated or it won't work. If your backup scheme requires physical intervention to function normally, like swapping drives, it is destined to be a failure.
More simply "If it isn't automated, it won't get done."
I do wonder why when the subject of backups comes up, we're subjected to countless posts confusing RAID with backup, suggestions for trivial use case scenarios, endless back and forth about the reliability of a given medium, and advocacy for someone's favourite utility.
What would be more useful (or at least productive) is writing what you wrote, or having some do a Frist Post containing a set of crontab entries, and a summary description of they're implemented. That would make clear that what typically gets posted is neither relevant nor applicable.
Perfectly valid when evaluating the finer points of different backup (or RAID) strategies, but I'd suggest for most people, it's leads down a path to grief.
Consider the typical argument where someone says "I can always reinstall Windows and my programs but I can't risk losing my [files]." That translates as setting aside their weekend to do just that (or paying someone to do the same), before laboriously restoring their Important Stuff from backup. Then, there's the following week where all the little things no one considered really that important (or simply forgot) that need to be addressed or otherwise fixed.
Me, I can, for example, perform a PXE boot and automated install in minutes, but I'll take the dump and restore approach over that any day.
Seems to me that if you're unsophisticated, you should consider everything important and back everything up. Life's much simpler without analysing the compromises and dealing with their shortcomings when things go wrong.
IMO the big question now is where that second hard drive will be. You can stick it in your computer and mirror your main drive in real time easily enough, but that means a virus or software issue will ruin both drives simultaneously.
Mirroring the drive? You're mixing RAID and backup.
That second drive has to be dedicated to be backups. How you perform those backups is up to you (ntbackup.exe, dump, rsync, file copy, etc.), as is the strategy (monthly, weekly, modified Tower of Hanoi, etc.), but let's be clear we're talking about backing up data, and not redundancy or availability.
If the issue is where that second drive will be, then you're options are internal (preferrably spun down when inactive), external (typically USB), or local network (another computer). The simplest option for those with a single a computer (the typical Windows user) is popping in an extra drive.
The only remaining issue is whether you want the contents of that dedicated drive to be duplicated off-site (preferrably encrypted) to protect against, among others, fire and theft. For that, you'll need to be creative and likely need to do some research as to the costs and feasibility. Walking it over to a friend's house would suffice, but there's lots of options available.
I install a *nix as my primary OS, create a VM using VirtualBox
Virtualbox doesn't run on "*nix", so the simplicity of your example is misleading. Windows, Linux, Macintosh and OpenSolaris are the only supported operating systems. The guest OS support is similarly limited.
If you meant Linux, I'd suggest you say "Linux" or possibly "some flavour of Linux".
know you're joking/trolling, but there is something to arranged marriages when done properly. One of the biggest problems in marriages is the tendency for people to form them while stupid.
By "stupid", I'd suggest that would include those viewing marriage as a romantic union, rather than a social union rooted in an an exchange of property rights (i.e., a business agreement).
Cynical? Perhaps. But consider what happens during the dissolution of a union. The people involved typically want or need to hire lawyers to negotiate competing claims. The only claims relevant are those that include such things as income, real property and the custody and upbringing of children.
The irony here is that those who are wealthy or otherwise more sophisticated will typically hire lawyers before the fact, in effect treating the marriage as a business agreement. This proxy approach allows the happy couple to view their marriage in different terms.
The Constitution's wording is ambiguous on this point, but seems to treat "intellectual property" as a privilege rather than a fundamental right. The theory echoes Jefferson's argument that ideas are like a candle-flame, such that "he that lights his taper from mine" doesn't diminish my supply of light... We've lately been treating IP as more like a right.
That we've been treating IP like a right is hardly surprising if you pay attention to the conversations of those who have power (politicians, business leaders, think tanks, etc.). A random example:
Dear Mr. President:
Protecting intellectual property (IP) rights has been a fundamental concept in the United States since the Founders provided Congress with the power "To promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts" in the Constitution. Today, America's commitment to strong IP protection has yielded astounding results. Not only do industries based on IP employ 18 million Americans, but they also account for more than $5 trillion of the nation's GDP, and more than half of all our exports....
Maintaining strong IP rights is essential to economic growth and continued innovation, and protecting IP rights will not only improve the world's development but America's as well.
Sincerely,
Evan Bayh Orrin G. Hatch Robert F. Bennett Debbie Stabenow Charles E. Grassley Arlen Specter George V. Voinovich John Thune Judd Gregg David Vitter
No point in getting excited seeing the names of the folks signing the letter as they're the same words and thoughts expressed by just about everyone when the subject of IP rights comes up.
The point here is that with $5 billion at stake, Jefferson's notions of candle flames seem almost quaint. As do moral theories.
Yes, ultimately it is about the content, but that doesn't mean presentation isn't important. If you were to take the same document, but render it in Word and LaTeX you would probably see a huge difference. The LaTeX version just looks better and is easier on the eyes. If it weren't important, we would still be using fixed width fonts and 80 character wide pages -- the content is the same.
If something is fit to be printed (LaTeX generated documents, for example), it's fit to be read. Web designers operate on the "fit to be displayed" requirement.
That situation, regrettably, gives rise to the irony that the content is actually easier to read after it's dumped into screen using a fixed width font and 80 character wide pages.
Good thing that we're reading less generally, and that our attention spans have grown shorter.
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Also, when was the last time you saw a laptop with "Microsoft" on the case? Microsoft *still* doesn't make their own laptops, they will *still* be selling laptops from Dell, HP, Lenovo, Asus, etc.
I think the strategy is not too dissimilar to donut chains selling "premium coffee". Instead of selling the usual low-grade commercial blends, they'll sell mediocre-grade coffee but tart up the cups and store displays and use an espresso machine to output crappy coffee.
In short Microsoft's strategy is to give people the impression they're in an Apple Store buying high-quality Apple Products.
Stupidity at its finest indeed.
I expect the real stupidity will be found at the Genius Bar -- "Did you try rebooting?"
the crusades happened how many centuries ago? ... we have to learn from history, not be trapped by history. history should teach you, not lock you in mindless recrimination
And if we choose to learn from history, we'll discover that the thinking of the past does not magically disappear or fade away because the past is behind us, and that the sins of the past aren't so easily forgiven. Racism, sexual inequality, cultural and religous bigotry, and fundamentalism are all very much alive today. And any progress in those areas is in the memory of most baby boomers. If you're not part of that generation, try Googling for the date of the first time a Catholic was elected as President, the first time a Mormon wasn't, or the date of the last lynching.
the same idiotic logic that keeps the balkans buried in blood feuds going back for millenia
Maybe it's just me, but I find it almost comical that fear of the Turks (aka Muslims) that's traditional in the Balkans seems more real at an American airport than in Belgrade, and is probably discussed as much in Protestant Evangelical churches across America as in Kossovo. Either way, I'd suggest that logic has no relevance when discussing human nature.
If I'm wrong, be sure to tell the next angry black man you meet in the street in Mississipi (or Harvard) to get over it because slavery ended years ago. And while you're at, be sure to tell Jews everywhere to stop whining. And that guy down the street flying a flag year round? Tell him that the concept of "freedom fries" is absurd, and convince him that Americans really do have a lot in common with the French. I suspect you'll get a reaction not unlike the one I get when I tell my girlfriend she's better at cooking and housework than I am.
Seems to me you're presenting a land-use argument. That certainly appropriate in certain contexts, but it's a bit of a narrow perspective, doncha think?
Women aged 20-29 were nearly 29 pounds heavier on average in 2002 compared to 1960. Women aged 40-49 were about 25.5 pounds heavier on average in 2002 compared to 1960.
Curiously, by 2002, women no longer consider it necessary to wear the girdles that everyone wore in 1960.
So I propose this solution: Make the warning dialog ... in big red letters ... With a flashing alarm light and sound. Filling 3/4 of the screen.
Assuming you have the minimum requisite measure of competence in a given area, how would you react if every step off the usual path subjected you to condescending and alarmist reponse? Say, bartenders giving you drunk driving statistics along with descriptions of possible liver damage, car passengers quoting safe stopping distances, warnings on Q-Tip packages insisting Q-Tips should not be used in you ear canal ... do I need to go on?
The Windows approach (as evident in UAC, warning dialogs, wizards, overly verbose messages, etc.) is geared toward the dumb user (and equally dumb admins as those same approaches are used in the "enterprise" offerings). By contrast *nix systems typically dispense with any handholding. If there's any "right approach" that merits advocating, I'd suggest it would be a compromise between the two I described, not forcing an exaggerated version of the dummy approach down everyone's throat.
I don't hate Microsoft, in fact I've done quite a few implementations of Exchange and SharePoint and AD for companies in the past.
Good thing you're not one of those tasked to ensure things continue to run, fix things when they break. ;-)
Apple is known for quality, longevity, and higher price. There's nothing to gain from them trying to get any sizable portion of the low-end market. The only reason they sell the mac mini is to get PC converts, not because they want a foot in the low end market.
But the underlying irony to Microsoft's latest moves (the recent ads, hiring away the guy who oversaw Apple's stores, etc.) is that Microsoft belongs in the low-end market (in the same way that manufacturers who sell to Target and Walmart belong there), but want the image of a company that merits being placed in the high-end market.
Personally, I don't think that's going to work. Products designed by Martha Stewart, for example, may have added some quality and "class" to what's typically at a big-box retailer, but no one in their right mind considers a place like Target as anything but a crappy place to buy mostly crappy products at great prices. And people who are looking for something better don't buy Martha Stewart.
A more honest approach would be one of the following:
Microsoft - When Good Enough is Good Enough!(TM)
Microsoft - Products for Those Who Can't Tell the Difference!(TM)
Windows - Everyone's Using It!(TM)
Obviously, I don't work in marketing. ;-)
Seen that seam under your ball sack? You really don't want to know why that's there.
Probably not, but as someone who is over the age of 40, I'd be interested in knowing the evolutionary origins of increased ear hair. Or eyebrow hair growing longer. And if there is an intelligent designer, why the hell did he (or she) decide that hair growing ON the nose would be a good thing?
I think science has a long way to go before we understand someone like Andy Rooney.
Call it "Windows Productivity Pack" or something, and ship it in the same box as the OS. People can then install the OS sans apps, then subsequently install only those apps they want.
The reason why no one's written a "Wielding Monopoly Power for Dummies" book is that it's generally assumed that even practical and fair-minded people such as yourself would intuitively grasp the benefits of ruthless business practices.
If you don't like the manufacturers' policies, buy from someone else.
And while we're at it, we'll be sure to change our cable/DSL providers because we don't agree with their policies.
If I may, I'd suggest you stop to consider the effects of monopoly power (both on the macro and micro level), and then examine how politics (both social and governmental) factor into the equation.
Complex problems can sometimes have simple solutions, but this isn't one of them.
A refund would be prettty awesome.
It would have to be to compensate for the grief of using Windows. ;-)
I do hope that one of those "few links" offers a "Comments" field, preferrably one that isn't limited to 128 characters, though I suppose something like "Hey Microsoft! I want my life back. And no, you can't have any more of my money!" would fit and provide the requisite emotional reward.
Is there a book about how to hook up while traveling? That would be really useful.
That would be something like this?
your standard steel or concrete house will burn as well as a wooden one, unless it's completely empty of any inflammable materials
Oddly enough (and assuming you meant to write "flammable" instead of "inflammable"), straw houses which are traditional post and beam construction with infill, are very fire resistant.
The older homes here 1930's have foundation problems more than anything else in the big ones. They tend to be lathe/plaster walls, but still stick-style construction.
That would include my favourite, older buildings using stick-style construction with brick exteriors.
I guess a few years Microsoft finally got the memo that they can't protect sales of Windows by attempting to force lock-in to their entire Windows ecosystem. They realized that many of their customers mix technologies together. Examples are Java/JBoss on Windows server, Windows desktops and Linux servers (Samba), working with Mozilla developers to port Firefox to Vista, and iPhones connecting to Exchange servers (licensing ActiveSync to Apple).
I think that may be a generous interpretation.
Microsoft isn't interested in interoperability. If they did, they simply stop "not interoperating".
What they are interested is licensing deals. The ex CFO of Microsoft (previously with IBM, IIRC) recently published a book in which he describes how he built up an entire department to do just this and how much money the effort has been bringin in. Your ActiveSync example is just one example of many.
You could make some kind of argument for JBoss and Firefox, but Microsoft's primary directive remains maintaining their monopoly. Anything they do that in that regard I don't see as a charitable attempt at interoperability, but rather a clever and strategic effort at leveraging it. Cracks in the "ecosystem" may be increasingly acceptable. Threats to their monopoly will never be.
It's no surprise that Microsoft wants a piece of the virtualisation market. If offering up a few thousand lines of code does that, then they've conceded little. I'd suggest even go farther and suggest that the "open for interpretation" nature of their gesture is excellent PR that can be used in future FUD campaigns.
As for Samba, I believe that the recent progress is the direct result of the EU's legal actions.
Just pointing out, the actual wording was in the form of question, not a "statement".
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It has to be automated or it won't work. If your backup scheme requires physical intervention to function normally, like swapping drives, it is destined to be a failure.
More simply "If it isn't automated, it won't get done."
I do wonder why when the subject of backups comes up, we're subjected to countless posts confusing RAID with backup, suggestions for trivial use case scenarios, endless back and forth about the reliability of a given medium, and advocacy for someone's favourite utility.
What would be more useful (or at least productive) is writing what you wrote, or having some do a Frist Post containing a set of crontab entries, and a summary description of they're implemented. That would make clear that what typically gets posted is neither relevant nor applicable.
There are three kinds of data ...
Perfectly valid when evaluating the finer points of different backup (or RAID) strategies, but I'd suggest for most people, it's leads down a path to grief.
Consider the typical argument where someone says "I can always reinstall Windows and my programs but I can't risk losing my [files]." That translates as setting aside their weekend to do just that (or paying someone to do the same), before laboriously restoring their Important Stuff from backup. Then, there's the following week where all the little things no one considered really that important (or simply forgot) that need to be addressed or otherwise fixed.
Me, I can, for example, perform a PXE boot and automated install in minutes, but I'll take the dump and restore approach over that any day.
Seems to me that if you're unsophisticated, you should consider everything important and back everything up. Life's much simpler without analysing the compromises and dealing with their shortcomings when things go wrong.
IMO the big question now is where that second hard drive will be. You can stick it in your computer and mirror your main drive in real time easily enough, but that means a virus or software issue will ruin both drives simultaneously.
Mirroring the drive? You're mixing RAID and backup.
That second drive has to be dedicated to be backups. How you perform those backups is up to you (ntbackup.exe, dump, rsync, file copy, etc.), as is the strategy (monthly, weekly, modified Tower of Hanoi, etc.), but let's be clear we're talking about backing up data, and not redundancy or availability.
If the issue is where that second drive will be, then you're options are internal (preferrably spun down when inactive), external (typically USB), or local network (another computer). The simplest option for those with a single a computer (the typical Windows user) is popping in an extra drive.
The only remaining issue is whether you want the contents of that dedicated drive to be duplicated off-site (preferrably encrypted) to protect against, among others, fire and theft. For that, you'll need to be creative and likely need to do some research as to the costs and feasibility. Walking it over to a friend's house would suffice, but there's lots of options available.
I install a *nix as my primary OS, create a VM using VirtualBox
Virtualbox doesn't run on "*nix", so the simplicity of your example is misleading. Windows, Linux, Macintosh and OpenSolaris are the only supported operating systems. The guest OS support is similarly limited.
If you meant Linux, I'd suggest you say "Linux" or possibly "some flavour of Linux".
know you're joking/trolling, but there is something to arranged marriages when done properly. One of the biggest problems in marriages is the tendency for people to form them while stupid.
By "stupid", I'd suggest that would include those viewing marriage as a romantic union, rather than a social union rooted in an an exchange of property rights (i.e., a business agreement).
Cynical? Perhaps. But consider what happens during the dissolution of a union. The people involved typically want or need to hire lawyers to negotiate competing claims. The only claims relevant are those that include such things as income, real property and the custody and upbringing of children.
The irony here is that those who are wealthy or otherwise more sophisticated will typically hire lawyers before the fact, in effect treating the marriage as a business agreement. This proxy approach allows the happy couple to view their marriage in different terms.
The Constitution's wording is ambiguous on this point, but seems to treat "intellectual property" as a privilege rather than a fundamental right. The theory echoes Jefferson's argument that ideas are like a candle-flame, such that "he that lights his taper from mine" doesn't diminish my supply of light ... We've lately been treating IP as more like a right.
That we've been treating IP like a right is hardly surprising if you pay attention to the conversations of those who have power (politicians, business leaders, think tanks, etc.). A random example:
No point in getting excited seeing the names of the folks signing the letter as they're the same words and thoughts expressed by just about everyone when the subject of IP rights comes up.
The point here is that with $5 billion at stake, Jefferson's notions of candle flames seem almost quaint. As do moral theories.
Yes, ultimately it is about the content, but that doesn't mean presentation isn't important. If you were to take the same document, but render it in Word and LaTeX you would probably see a huge difference. The LaTeX version just looks better and is easier on the eyes. If it weren't important, we would still be using fixed width fonts and 80 character wide pages -- the content is the same.
If something is fit to be printed (LaTeX generated documents, for example), it's fit to be read. Web designers operate on the "fit to be displayed" requirement.
That situation, regrettably, gives rise to the irony that the content is actually easier to read after it's dumped into screen using a fixed width font and 80 character wide pages.
Good thing that we're reading less generally, and that our attention spans have grown shorter.
Say, MIME ...?
I think you mean base64.
As for hiding it, I think that's sort of the point behind this scheme.
you mean the pirates are going to continue to beat out "the man" and get away with it?
I believe Mr. Universe expressed those very sentiments.